OneJ:


U are making a fool of yourself, peddling half truth ,"he was neither buried in dishonor or raised in dishonor".. What has Christ burial got to do with his dishonored body with various wounds & marks of abuse?
Christ was labeled a. "criminal" and was executed along with 2 other criminals. John 18:28-32.
He died in dishonor & was raised in glory. 1 cor 15:43,44. Make U no twist am.

TATIME:
Jesus taught His followers to go and meet people face to face not hiding behind some forms of media
only to start cursing and insulting those who disregard or disagree with them.

TATIME:
Whether a person is claiming to be a JW or any other group, it's BARBARIC cursing or insulting people when you're supposed to be pleading with them! That's what i called BARBARIC!

TATIME:
You can claim to be on the Lord's side but try to meditate thoroughly on how Jesus will react seeing you cursing or insulting your audience simply because they turned you or the word down. That's what i called BARBARIC!

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm well all i'm saying is "there is no way you can work efficiently for someone who perfectly set the example if you're not doing it according to the laid down arrangement"
Jesus taught His followers to go and meet people face to face not hiding behind some forms of media only to start cursing and insulting those who disregard or disagree with them.
Whether a person is claiming to be a JW or any other group, it's BARBARIC cursing or insulting people when you're supposed to be pleading with them!
You can claim to be on the Lord's side but try to meditate thoroughly on how Jesus will react seeing you cursing or insulting your audience simply because they turned you or the word down.
That's what i called BARBARIC!

OneJ:
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For your mind U think U're educated
but. your education is useless to U & your society.

Where, when & how did two distinct spirit beings ,the Word & the God transformed into one spirit being, Almighty God ?
Johnw47, pls reply.

One of the men who invented Trinity , before the Council of Nicene was convened, Tertullian , (one of the Early Church Fathers) in the early third century wrote:
" Now if this one ("the Word" is God according to John (" the Word is God", then you have two: one who speaks that it may be, and another who carries it out. However, you should accept this as "another" I have explained: as concerning person, not substance, and as distinct, not division"
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_1:1


the man Tertullian write say U be mumu with no sense but stupidity.

TATIME:
Walahi Talahi this anti~jw virus is worst oooooooo.

OneJ:


Everyone who viewed this thread is already aware that your other 4 fingers have judged & condemned U.
Because U no fit disprove all the scriptures that contradicted your flawed doctrine , u dey hide behind flimsy excuses.

brocab:


You don't come to me preaching the gospel-you come to me preaching lies from the Watchtower, I call this BARBARIC!

johnw47:

Tatime
of course you false jw tat don't understand God being more than one person,
in fact you don't understand anything much

www.nairaland.com/attachments/8276104_img20181206180527753_jpeg71c08df75eba31a050ceb866c82979af

just look at that false jw confusion, and mocking of God and the Word, john 1:1
showing your true satanic colors false jw tat

TATIME:
Walahi Talahi this anti~jw virus is worst oooooooo.

zodiakzax:


... assumption man, you are so dumb that common English is difficult for you.... I said the Holy Spirit is the same as Father and Son... can you show me where I said that?

CAPTIVATOR:


Bro , I said Gruni1234 is a pretender and underground trinitarian on this thread , an objective researcher would have asked questions as Tatime said to uncover areas which might not have been evident to an average reader , Bro many trinitarians believe that there is an Angel In the old testament whose identity is Jesus . If you have the time check this trinitarian website , and you too Gruni1234, https://crossexamined.org/who-is-the-angel-of-the-lord/
it says in part it becomes evident that the angel of the Lord is none other than the pre-incarnate Christ Himself

CAPTIVATOR:


Bro , I said Gruni1234 is a pretender and underground trinitarian on this thread , an objective researcher would have asked questions as Tatime said to uncover areas which might not have been evident to an average reader , Bro many trinitarians believe that there is an Angel In the old testament whose identity is Jesus . If you have the time check this trinitarian website , and you too Gruni1234, https://crossexamined.org/who-is-the-angel-of-the-lord/
it says in part it becomes evident that the angel of the Lord is none other than the pre-incarnate Christ Himself

Barristter07:


Read again , This time at a slow pace and get the message.

Then kindly identify the " HIM " that's same as holy spirit .

Two edged sword

zodiakzax:


Stupid pagan, even swearing by a pagan god Allah, idiots... dictionary says Russell was your founder, you deny him because of the many mistakes he did, he even said Jesus was God.. fools..OneJ will not answer but I care less. Charles Russell is your founder if you like go and fall in the sea... stupid dogs .

TATIME:
The topic of the thread is what brought you and your friends into this podium, not me coming to you to preach anything to you!

TATIME:
We're all participants in this podium to make simple presentations of what each of us believe, whether it's right or wrong should be left in the hands of Jesus to judge.

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm i pray that you get the sense of this discussion without this argumentative mindset!
The topic of the thread is what brought you and your friends into this podium, not me coming to you to preach anything to you!
You said Jesus asked His followers to go out and preach, and you said it could be in any form but the topic of this thread is 17 facts about a group "Jehovah's Witnesses" this has nothing to do with coming to preach to you or your friends.
So what do you mean by saying "i came to you"
We're all participants in this podium to make simple presentations of what each of us believe, whether it's right or wrong should be left in the hands of Jesus to judge. But pouring out ones rage on others simply because they're holding contrary opinion regarding what is written in black and white makes no practical sense and it becomes BARBARIC most especially after Jesus the one you're claiming to be on His side has taught His own followers never to become vulgar about His matter!
God bless you!

brocab:

I think it's time you start telling the truth-it is you that comes to us and argue your beliefs against us 'as soon as we mention the Word of God, you pounce against us, trying to convince us 'you are right while the Word of God is wrong!
It can be very Barbaric when we read your commits concerning the word of God, matter of fact it's an insult against God Himself..
Still you choose to play the blame game, blaming us coming to you, when we are all guilty of this very same crime-plus you blame us continually because you haven't got the balls to front up for your own mistakes..

Well according to Jesus, He said: we can judge by their fruit! And I have judged you, because your fruit separates you from Christ: {And I can prove it against you} to know He is God who raised Himself from the dead, according to your NWT Bible..
{John 2:18-22} Therefore, in response the Jews said to him: “What sign can you show us, since you are doing these things?”
{19} Jesus replied to them: “Tear down this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.”
{20} The Jews then said: “This temple was built in 46 years, and will you raise it up in three days?”
{21} But he was talking about the temple of his body.
{22} When, though, he was raised up from the dead, his disciples recalled that he used to say this, and they believed the scripture and what Jesus had spoken.
The apostles believed it, I believe it, but the JW's don't believe it because your fruit separates you from Christ...

TATIME:
Brother Charles Taze Russell was surely one of Jehovah's Witnesses my friend but NOT the founder!
This is one of the many issues that made me to keep asking thought provoking questions for over two decades before i finally became one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Unlike all other groups that's available, Jehovah's Witnesses don't stick to the laid down teachings, doctrines and arrangements of human frontiers. What i mean is this, today why are there so many different religious groups having contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings all claiming Christians? Well it's because after the death of the 12 Apostles chosen by Jesus Christ, each individual or group of individuals started gathering members and setting their own forms of worship based on their respective interpretations and understanding of the Bible,starting with the Romans under Constantine (Roman Catholic Church), till the days of English churches (Anglo Catholic meaning "English" Catholic Church). All these religious groups had there own FORM but "never will they allow for further enlightenment" so the religion remains the same way their frontiers laid it down, instead of allowing for a reformation members leaves to start yet another religious group in Jesus name.
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't like that, there is room for further enlightenment, that's why what a JW during the days of Russell was acquainted with totally differs from what is obtainable today, for example Charles Russell used to celebrate Christmas till death but today further enlightenment has stopped that pagan festivity.Proverbs 4:18
So if Russell was the founder (as assumed) nothing would have changed most of his laid down doctrines!
After thorough research,investigation and meditation i came to agree that certainly this group has the backing of a supernatural force *JEHOVAH*.
All other religious groups today aren't able to standout as the one and only group representing Jesus because of all their accommodated pagan philosophies.
YOU guys yourselves are living testimonies to these facts as none of you has that confidence to present any of your numerous religious groups as a Christian group, all you're agitating for is "there shouldn't be a group that's to be reckoned with as Christians". Whereas Jesus Himself said so many things that shows there must be a group for the purpose of RECOGNITION! Matthew 10:22-26/John 13:34,35/17:8,9,14-19
So Jesus used Russell just as a tool to reestablish His congregation in this last days and all further adjustments Jesus is doing as a spirit person in our midst. Matthew 28:20
God bless you!

TATIME:
Brother Charles Taze Russell was surely one of Jehovah's Witnesses my friend but NOT the founder!
This is one of the many issues that made me to keep asking thought provoking questions for over two decades before i finally became one of Jehovah's Witnesses. Unlike all other groups that's available, Jehovah's Witnesses don't stick to the laid down teachings, doctrines and arrangements of human frontiers. What i mean is this, today why are there so many different religious groups having contradicting doctrines and conflicting teachings all claiming Christians? Well it's because after the death of the 12 Apostles chosen by Jesus Christ, each individual or group of individuals started gathering members and setting their own forms of worship based on their respective interpretations and understanding of the Bible,starting with the Romans under Constantine (Roman Catholic Church), till the days of English churches (Anglo Catholic meaning "English" Catholic Church). All these religious groups had there own FORM but "never will they allow for further enlightenment" so the religion remains the same way their frontiers laid it down, instead of allowing for a reformation members leaves to start yet another religious group in Jesus name.
Jehovah's Witnesses aren't like that, there is room for further enlightenment, that's why what a JW during the days of Russell was acquainted with totally differs from what is obtainable today, for example Charles Russell used to celebrate Christmas till death but today further enlightenment has stopped that pagan festivity.Proverbs 4:18
So if Russell was the founder (as assumed) nothing would have changed most of his laid down doctrines!
After thorough research,investigation and meditation i came to agree that certainly this group has the backing of a supernatural force *JEHOVAH*.
All other religious groups today aren't able to standout as the one and only group representing Jesus because of all their accommodated pagan philosophies.
YOU guys yourselves are living testimonies to these facts as none of you has that confidence to present any of your numerous religious groups as a Christian group, all you're agitating for is "there shouldn't be a group that's to be reckoned with as Christians". Whereas Jesus Himself said so many things that shows there must be a group for the purpose of RECOGNITION! Matthew 10:22-26/John 13:34,35/17:8,9,14-19
So Jesus used Russell just as a tool to reestablish His congregation in this last days and all further adjustments Jesus is doing as a spirit person in our midst. Matthew 28:20
God bless you!

TATIME:
Well if you truly believe you can judge every utterance that's against God's word, then try to do that in the northern side of Nigeria without self-control as you're asserting right now! Those people over there are saying you must worship only in the Mosques and the only names to be revered are Allah and Muhammad. Please when you get there don't preach peacefully and respectfully as Jehovah's Witnesses do, just speak to them the same way you're doing on social media now and see how far you can go with your style of preaching. Thanks and God bless you!

zodiakzax:
They said the Father is Jesus' Lord, i aked them where did Jesus called The Father my Lord? Till now they are jumping from one assumption to the other and not a single verse to.prove the case.. ... Jesus is the one Lord,


Why did Jesus question the people about them believing He's David's Son when He is David's Lord, but later said he was David's offspring.. this fake JW Christians couldn't even answer... ...
If He didn't deny being David's son and yet David called Him Lord, then why do you fuse around when the Father aknowledges Christ as Lord? .....


Jesus Christ is no Angel, in this note the JW's, OneJ, barrister07 agreed Jesus is not an angel, directly insulting their own organization.. at least we agreed here


They poo everywhere, saying any Jew who didn't believe in Jesus was a Pharisee .. .. I know right, stupid dumb headed goats...


They said he wasnt raised in a physical body, yet Jesus had wounds on his body, nasty ones, so if he wasn't raised bodily why the wounds? ..sometimes they sound so stupid that my dog looks alot wiser..


Isaiah 48:16, has disgraced them to show them Yahweh calling another Yahweh. They jump up and down yet cannot prove anything, some said it was Jesus being sent, some said it was Isaiah etc, confused stupid pagans


They said Christianity is monotheism yet they say there arw many gods apart from Yahweh in Christianity ..I know right... well can't blame them they've not gone to school.. ..


When confronted about Russell their founder they deny him because Russell himself is against this apostate religion..


They quoted a verse to show mountains are born, to imply that create is equal to born... I asked them show me where I scripture that says mountains were created? Till now they can't .. thyve been jumping from one stone to the other without a single verse showing that God created the mountains...


They lie here and there changing their mouths but everything is on records.. which group were Christians called in the bible, pagan Tatime admitted Jesus never said we should be called groups, yet he continues to ask a stupid question about groups in the bible... that's how stupid they are....

brocab:
Yeh bro I know--but keep up the good work, already things are breaking along the way.
These JW's are Children out of school-if their elders knew they were here, they would be castrated from the Watchtower-these JW's are here for God's purpose 'matter of fact they are learning more of you-then the Watchtower literature is teaching them..
With all their rejections and denials they are actually studying and learning the Word of God.

CAPTIVATOR:


Bro , I said Gruni1234 is a pretender and underground trinitarian on this thread , an objective researcher would have asked questions as Tatime said to uncover areas which might not have been evident to an average reader , Bro many trinitarians believe that there is an Angel In the old testament whose identity is Jesus . If you have the time check this trinitarian website , and you too Gruni1234, https://crossexamined.org/who-is-the-angel-of-the-lord/
it says in part it becomes evident that the angel of the Lord is none other than the pre-incarnate Christ Himself

zodiakzax:


Thanks... and by the Lords grace and Mercy they and gruni123 will come to the Lord...

TATIME:
Come to the Lord,with this your attitudes. I wonder who that your Lord is.
Well thanks to Jehovah that the fruitage of the Holy Spirit is enumerated in the Bible for interested individuals to identify TRUE Christians.

Hairyrapunzel:



Lol. You now decide the attitude the lord would accept? Na wa o

brocab:
I would like to go to Nigeria with you, and when the time comes 'don't worry you are first to front the firing squad-I would tell the Muslims you are gay!
Plus I don't live in Nigeria-I am from the other side of the world-and the JW's have already invaded my country-so not only do I talk to you, on media-I have my door closed just in case the JW's are seeking whom they may devour against the elderly and the widows...

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm your doors closed AGAINST those who have come to discuss with you from the Bible. Romans 10:13-15 No wonder Paul said some Israelites back then truthfully have a zeal but not according to accurate knowledge of God. Romans 10:1-3
But on social media you're facelessly arguing furiously when you can't even see those you're chatting with.
Well, thank God Malachi said it's by someone discussing with his neighbors that our names can enter into the book of life. Malachi 3:16 compared to Revelations 20:15
So when Jesus commissioned the house to house preaching and teaching program about 500 years later, God's son thereby set the pace for humble,mild tempered and obedient ones to join the race for everlasting life. Matthew 10:2-15 compared with Malachi 3:18
Instead of following Jesus' instruction to humbly go and plead with unbelievers in their homes, you sit down comfortably and start typing whatever comes to your mind FACELESSLY on social media. And your audience can't even see how to practice what you're saying by your examples since both of you remains strangers to one another.
Then the next thing is politicians will start quarreling amongst themselves only to give you guns to go and kill the same person with whom you've been chatting on social media since you don't even know one another. Hmmmmmmmmmm i wonder how you'll know all these your so called "Christian friends" when you're fighting against Nigeria as a soldier for another country! Well as for me and other Jehovah's Witnesses across the globe, we'll never carry a weapon against anyone because we know people face to face and we're sure "they don't know what they're doing". Luke 23:34 God bless you Sir!

TATIME:
But on social media you're facelessly arguing furiously when you can't even see those you're chatting with. Jesus' instruction to humbly go and plead with unbelievers in their homes, you sit down comfortably and start typing whatever comes to your mind FACELESSLY on social media. And your audience can't even see how to practice what you're saying by your examples since both of you remains strangers to one another.

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm your doors closed AGAINST those who have come to discuss with you from the Bible.

TATIME:
So when preaching and teaching program about 500 years later, God's son thereby set the pace for humble,mild tempered and obedient ones to join the race for everlasting life.

TATIME:
Hmmmmmmmmmm your doors closed AGAINST those who have come to discuss with you from the Bible. Romans 10:13-15 No wonder Paul said some Israelites back then truthfully have a zeal but not according to accurate knowledge of God. Romans 10:1-3
But on social media you're facelessly arguing furiously when you can't even see those you're chatting with.
Well, thank God Malachi said it's by someone discussing with his neighbors that our names can enter into the book of life. Malachi 3:16 compared to Revelations 20:15
So when Jesus commissioned the house to house preaching and teaching program about 500 years later, God's son thereby set the pace for humble,mild tempered and obedient ones to join the race for everlasting life. Matthew 10:2-15 compared with Malachi 3:18
Instead of following Jesus' instruction to humbly go and plead with unbelievers in their homes, you sit down comfortably and start typing whatever comes to your mind FACELESSLY on social media. And your audience can't even see how to practice what you're saying by your examples since both of you remains strangers to one another.
Then the next thing is politicians will start quarreling amongst themselves only to give you guns to go and kill the same person with whom you've been chatting on social media since you don't even know one another. Hmmmmmmmmmm i wonder how you'll know all these your so called "Christian friends" when you're fighting against Nigeria as a soldier for another country! Well as for me and other Jehovah's Witnesses across the globe, we'll never carry a weapon against anyone because we know people face to face and we're sure "they don't know what they're doing". Luke 23:34 God bless you Sir!

Barristter07:


funny, I will surely visit that Brother

All right bro, am very much loving the way you ignore that troll begging for your attention

zodiakzax:
They said the Father is Jesus' Lord, i aked them where did Jesus called The Father my Lord? Till now they are jumping from one assumption to the other and not a single verse to.prove the case.. ... Jesus is the one Lord,

Why did Jesus question the people about them believing He's David's Son when He is David's Lord, but later said he was David's offspring.. this fake JW Christians couldn't even answer... ...
If He didn't deny being David's son and yet David called Him Lord, then why do you fuse around when the Father aknowledges Christ as Lord? .....

Jesus Christ is no Angel, in this note the JW's, OneJ, barrister07 agreed Jesus is not an angel, directly insulting their own organization.. at least we agreed here

Angel is messenger , they tell you nah. Made better doesnt mean he wasn't one . right now he heads Angels whose voice will raise the dead ? Jesus or that of the arch angel . also, who is the Angel of the Lord who answers the name Yahweh ?

They said he wasnt raised in a physical body, yet Jesus had wounds on his body, nasty ones, so if he wasn't raised bodily why the wounds? ..sometimes they sound so stupid that my dog looks alot wiser..

Isaiah 48:16, has disgraced them to show them Yahweh calling another Yahweh. They jump up and down yet cannot prove anything, some said it was Jesus being sent, some said it was Isaiah etc, confused stupid pagans

They said Christianity is monotheism yet they say there arw many gods apart from Yahweh in Christianity ..I know right... well can't blame them they've not gone to school.. ..

When confronted about Russell their founder they deny him because Russell himself is against this apostate religion..


They quoted a verse to show mountains are born, to imply that create is equal to born... I asked them show me a scripture that says mountains were created? Till now they can't .. thyve been jumping from one stone to the other without a single verse showing that mountains were created.. ..i asked them were you born or created by your mother assuming born and create is the same..They said God created them.. ....Yeah I know that wasn't the question.. were born or not by your mother? They can't even understand this simple question,.So how can they answer

They lie here and there changing their mouths but everything is on records.. which group were Christians called in the bible, pagan Tatime admitted Jesus never said we should be called groups, yet he continues to ask a stupid question about groups in the bible... that's how stupid they are....

respond to Barrister07 3 points why is taking you forever Sir ?

zodiakzax:


Thanks... and by the Lords grace and Mercy they and gruni123 will come to the Lord...