Of you give to God, he will bless you. Abraham gave his son to God and got blessed in return. Even Hod said if we pay our tithe, he will bless us.
Malachi 3:10(KJV) Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the L ORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
Please divide the word properly.
Tell yourself the truth with all your tithing do you have so much that there's no room enough to put them?
Should we now call God a liar? Or you twisting the scriptures.
God it's no liar but with our greed we twist the scripture to fuel our delusion.
I don't want any material things I don't need it.
Isaac attempted sacrifice was a test. Isaac was the most important thing to Abraham. He was tested for it. Not that he just decided to sacrifice Isaac. Moreover he didn't give money/material thing. Unless money/material things is the most important thing to you. Why don't you sacrifice all the money and material things to God so we can know you are serious about reaping and sowing. Then make sure God is asking you for it. So he can bless you like Abraham.
Job didn't give jack to be blessed and protected by God all he had to do was walk right in the sight of God. Even after everything was taken away he still stood for God.
No matter how believer you are Man must till and sweat (work) to reap. Women till tomorrow must feel the pains of child labour. It's not removed because you're Christian.
Hardwork doesn't guarantee success... It only increases it's chances.
Horlufemi: Prove it first. Then even still I would only tithe if EVERY SINGLE MEMBER of the church benefit from the donation brought to the Church. But prove it first that Pastors are Levites. The only Church system I recognize is that of the early apostles. Nothing more nothing less.
Then address 1-5
Why should I prove, even if I should prove it, it doesnt mean you are qualified to give tithe, or does it?
MuttleyLaff: You either are following and adhering to the Abrahaic style of tithing, the Levitical laid down style of tithing or the obligatory and/or imposed ecclesiastical monetised tithe giving, so which one out of the three are adhering to Mr alBH.AGDADI?
God supplies all your needs and others without you giving Him 1%, talkless 10%. It has nothing to do with the amount, it has a great deal to do with the heart Mr alBHA.GDADI. Think about that
You're very clever and crafty. I see you havent missed a trick. Well you and I know our little secret, that Jacob, never tithed and that is the reason why there is no record that Jacob gave tithe
Abraham did not have to teach tithing to anyone or anybody. It is a well known historical and documentated fact that Abram tithed in line with the prevailing mesopotamia custom to tithe. Artifacts shows and testifies to idol worshippers and/or heathens practice of tithing. Like few other things, tithing was a status quo. Why not go to a museum, bring your historical knowledge up to date
Abraham tithed only once., and the reason why Abraham tithed only once, is because Abraham took up arms, went to fight, he went on battle just the one time. Abraham went after another just once. It is this one time pursuit that Abraham fought, captured and SLAUGHTERED kings only hence the reason he tithed only once. Abraham never had the chance to repeat the thrill of taking up arms, chase, fight, capture and slaughter kings again, and so the opportunity for him to give tithe on spoils of war never came up or arose again. Jacob did not go to war, Jacob did not slaughter in a battle to warrant him giving tithe on the booty. It was 400 years plus later that Jacob, as Israel, after conquering the promised land and slaughter kings that that God now required them to give tithe
Abraham tithing, Mosaic tithing or Ecclesiastical tithing, what matters is tithing. You argument is that mosaic tithing only states to bring agricultural produce. This is why you wonder why today's tithing is asking for money. Don't you know that the priesthood which collected agricultural produce as tithe has changed, so therefore the law also has changed. This is why money is now being collected instead of agricultural produce cos the law as simply changed.
Hebrews 7:12 KJV For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
I chose to be wise by honoring God with my tithe even though he doesn't need it to exist .
Proverbs 3:9 Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase:
Whether Jacob tithed or not is not the issue but the fact that it existed during his time just as it was with his grandfather Abraham. Now, how dare you say Jacob never tithed? How dare you say what the Bible never said?
My only book for spiritual guidance is the bible, not some artifacts or historical findings. What you are saying now is that Abraham borrowed the idea of tithing from pagans and gave tithe to God who accepted it? To you, God has been borrowing ideas from pagans. Please, stop reading all this historical findings filled with jargons. They are all inspired by Satan who also dug up some false manuscript and claim they are the older manuscripts of the Bible even though they contain flaws. That manuscript has led to all these false modern Bible versions we have today.
Abraham didn't tithe because he saw the pagans around him tithing. Stop believing what your Bible doesnt tell you, else you believe falsehood.
Abraham tithed out of faith in God. This means God told him to do it. He heard the word of God telling him to tithe and so he had faith in it.
Romans 10:17 (KJV) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
You say Abraham tithed only once? Are you expecting the Bible to be all about the amount of times Abraham paid tithes? As if there aren't other stories to write about.
Tell yourself the truth with all your tithing do you have so much that there's no room enough to put them?
Should we now call God a liar? Or you twisting the scriptures.
God it's no liar but with our greed we twist the scripture to fuel our delusion.
I don't want any material things I don't need it.
Isaac attempted sacrifice was a test. Isaac was the most important thing to Abraham. He was tested for it. Not that he just decided to sacrifice Isaac. Moreover he didn't give money/material thing. Unless money/material things is the most important thing to you. Why don't you sacrifice all the money and material things to God so we can know you are serious about reaping and sowing. Then make sure God is asking you for it. So he can bless you like Abraham.
Job didn't give jack to be blessed and protected by God all he had to do was walk right in the sight of God. Even after everything was taken away he still stood for God.
No matter how believer you are Man must till and sweat (work) to reap. Women till tomorrow must feel the pains of child labour. It's not removed because you're Christian.
Hardwork doesn't guarantee success... It only increases it's chances.
You want e to explain the last part of Malachi 3:10?
Malachi 3:10(KJV) Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the L ORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
Perhaps you think the passage is talking about material blessings alone. Can you store the blessing of protection? Do you know the amount of people who have died plying the same road you only on a daily basis? Do you know how God prevented you from being sacked without you even knowing? Do you know how God saved you from enemy attacks while you were fast asleep? Please quantify those little things and tell me if your house can contain them for storage.
alBHAGDADI: Abraham tithing, Mosaic tithing or Ecclesiastical tithing, what matters is tithing. You argument is that mosaic tithing only states to bring agricultural produce. This is why you wonder why today's tithing is asking for money. Don't you know that the priesthood which collected agricultural produce as tithe has changed, so therefore the law also has changed. This is why money is now being collected instead of agricultural produce cos the law as simply changed.
Hebrews 7:12 KJV For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law. I chose to be wise by honoring God with my tithe even though he doesn't need it to exist .
Proverbs 3:9 Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase:
Whether Jacob tithed or not is not the issue but the fact that it existed during his time just as it was with his grandfather Abraham. Now, how dare you say Jacob never tithed? How dare you say what the Bible never said?
My only book for spiritual guidance is the bible, not some artifacts or historical findings. What you are saying now is that Abraham borrowed the idea of tithing from pagans and gave tithe to God who accepted it? To you, God has been borrowing ideas from pagans. Please, stop reading all this historical findings filled with jargons. They are all inspired by Satan who also dug up some false manuscript and claim they are the older manuscripts of the Bible even though they contain flaws. That manuscript has led to all these false modern Bible versions we have today.
Abraham didn't tithe because he saw the pagans around him tithing. Stop believing what your Bible doesnt tell you, else you believe falsehood.
Abraham tithed out of faith in God. This means God told him to do it. He heard the word of God telling him to tithe and so he had faith in it.
Romans 10:17 (KJV) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
You say Abraham tithed only once? Are you expecting the Bible to be all about the amount of times Abraham paid tithes? As if there aren't other stories to write about.
You are ignorant and a shameless hypocrite, just wait until when I return back. I have at the moment, things right now that needs my immediate and urgent attention to attend to
You want e to explain the last part of Malachi 3:10?
Malachi 3:10(KJV) Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the L ORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it.
Perhaps you think the passage is talking about material blessings alone. Can you store the blessing of protection? Do you know the amount of people who have died plying the same road you only on a daily basis? Do you know how God prevented you from being sacked without you even knowing? Do you know how God saved you from enemy attacks while you were fast asleep? Please quantify those little things and tell me if your house can contain them for storage.
What happened to the other people who didn't pay tithe and didn't have accident. And the ones that paid tithe and had accident. I've had accidents when I used to pay tithe?
I'm a Christian I can't be bothered by enemies. I'll always have enemies and be persecuted as Christ was. Take your cross and forge ahead. Spiritual Protection is basic Christianity u don't need to give to get that. It comes with the package.
Those things you mentioned are basic and you don't need to give anything to get it. It come with you being a new creature in Christ. It's simple because you are no longer of the world.
Night attacks are just used to scared believers to keep paying up.
Know your rights and stop underestimating God's love for us
What happened to the other people who didn't pay tithe and didn't have accident. And the ones that paid tithe and had accident. I've had accidents when I used to pay tithe?
I'm a Christian I can't be bothered by enemies. I'll always have enemies and be persecuted as Christ was. Take your cross and forge ahead. Spiritual Protection is basic Christianity u don't need to give to get that. It comes with the package.
Those things you mentioned are basic and you don't need to give anything to get it. It come with you being a new creature in Christ. It's simple because you are no longer of the world.
Night attacks are just used to scared believers to keep paying up.
Know your rights
Such people meet their devourer in some other way. When you tithed and had accident, did you die?
Do you mean Christians don't fall sick, get sacked or suffer one or two things? Tithe can help block such. If you fail to pay tithe, you or your child might fall sick and get hospitalized such that you will spend more than that amount at the hospital. Simply giving it to God would have prevented all that because he said he will rebukebthe devourer which makes you loose money anyhow.
MuttleyLaff: You are ignorant and a shameless hypocrite, just wait until when I return back. I have at the moment, things right now that needs my immediate and urgent attention to attend to
You want to go and dig an ancient ground in Mesopotamia for artifacts, right?
You want e to explain the last part of Malachi 3:10?
Malachi 3:10(KJV) Bring ye all the tithes into the storehouse, that there may be meat in mine house, and prove me now herewith, saith the L ORD of hosts, if I will not open you the windows of heaven, and pour you out a blessing, that there shall not be room enough to receive it. Perhaps you think the passage is talking about material blessings alone. Can you store the blessing of protection? Do you know the amount of people who have died plying the same road you only on a daily basis? Do you know how God prevented you from being sacked without you even knowing? Do you know how God saved you from enemy attacks while you were fast asleep? Please quantify those little things and tell me if your house can contain them for storage.
Such people meet their devourer in some other way. When you tithed and had accident, did you die?
Do you mean Christians don't fall sick, get sacked or suffer one or two things? Tithe can help block such. If you fail to pay tithe, you or your child might fall sick and get hospitalized such that you will spend more than that amount at the hospital. Simply giving it to God would have prevented all that because he said he will rebukebthe devourer which makes you loose money anyhow.
You are shifting the goal post. You said protection is blessing. People who paid tithe had accidents and died. Suffered cancer and died. Your "devourer" devoured their money.
You are confusing yourself in protecting your prosperity gospel. Your prosperity gospel will only create more atheist than Christians.
My point Jesus’s atonement DOES NOT extend to the “sin” of material poverty or a life without problems of the world.
What happened to the people who paid tithe and died? The ones who had suffered cancer? Why didn't he prevent such? Your prosperity gospel will only create more atheist than Christians.
My point Jesus’s atonement DOES NOT extend to the “sin” of material poverty or a life without problems of the world.
God takes away his servants however he pleases. Paul, Peter and other disciples died horrible deaths, this doesn't mean God didn't protect them when he wasn't ready to welcome them home.
Tithe doctrine is not a prosperity gospel. It is an obedience gospel.
God takes away his servants however he pleases. Paul, Peter and other disciples died horrible deaths, this doesn't mean God didn't protect them when he wasn't ready to welcome them home.
Tithe doctrine is not a prosperity gospel. It is an obedience gospel.
I've edited my post. Recheck and explain your confusion.
alBHAGDADI: Whether Jacob tithed or not is not the issue but the fact that it existed during his time just as it was with his grandfather Abraham. Now, how dare you say Jacob never tithed? How dare you say what the Bible never said?
My only book for spiritual guidance is the bible, not some artifacts or historical findings. What you are saying now is that Abraham borrowed the idea of tithing from pagans and gave tithe to God who accepted it? To you, God has been borrowing ideas from pagans. Please, stop reading all this historical findings filled with jargons. They are all inspired by Satan who also dug up some false manuscript and claim they are the older manuscripts of the Bible even though they contain flaws. That manuscript has led to all these false modern Bible versions we have today.
Abraham didn't tithe because he saw the pagans around him tithing. Stop believing what your Bible doesnt tell you, else you believe falsehood.
Abraham tithed out of faith in God. This means God told him to do it. He heard the word of God telling him to tithe and so he had faith in it.
MuttleyLaff: You are ignorant and a shameless hypocrite, just wait until when I return back. I have at the moment, things right now that needs my immediate and urgent attention to attend to
alBHAGDADI: You want to go and dig an ancient ground in Mesopotamia for artifacts, right?
What is today called alBHAGDADI? What was yesterday called alBHAGDADI? Those names of the day are borrowed ideas from whom and where alBHAGDADI?
Do you now see, what an ignorant and a shameless hypocrite you are, huh? I have more but it just that I dont kick someone when they are down, so I'll leave it just at that, just continue reading on, to learn more and gain proper and correct knowledge on tithing, OK?
Christians and believers can tithe if they so decided in their heart and are not coerced, being forced people to give, aren't getting threatened with fear of curses, calamity or misfortune if they don't give an imposed and/or obligatory ecclesiastical monitised tithe giving. As long as specified financial demands aren't forced on people, it isn't a prob. If people willing and on their own initiative give tithe, that's OK
Let's just go there. There really is no percentage on giving for believers. All God requires, is a cheerful giving, that you decide in your heart without being forced or coerced to give. As a matter of fact, it is any amount that you're comfortable with and be in accordance to the level of grace you've received, only that there is a caveat that whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously
The Greek original word, "die", used in Matthew 23:23, means, it is necessary, to tithe and so when that necessity is over, that duty or responsibility to tithe, is no longer required or needed It was under that or those then present circumstances, that people like alBHAGDADI dont understand, that Jesus says to tithe, and not the thereafter
People like alBHAGDADI and others, dont want to recognise that the only tithes used to be given to God were: 1) the Levitical tithe aka Mosaic Law tithe, which are given to God via the priest (e.g. Levite) and 2) the Abraham type of tithe, given to God, via a priest cum king (e.g. Melchizedek) - see #3 below
Other tithes in a secular world context (i.e. tenth, 1/10, 10% and possibly 0.1) also given are: 1) At pagan temples to priest(s) (note alBHAGDADI extra biblical references will be provided upon your request, same with #3 below) 2) Upon the king's demand's (note alBHAGDADI bible references also will be provided upon your request) 3) To a local ruler cum priest of a god or God, worthy of the consideration, after taking up arms, go to fight and winning battle fight(s) or war slaughering enemies
Now this is breaking it further down for easier understanding for the likes of alBHAGDADI and others 1) There is obligatory tithe imposed by the Mosaic law (i.e. the Levitical tithe also known as the Mosaic Law tithe) 2) There is obligatory tithe imposed by the christian gatherings law (i.e. ecclesiastical tithe, where christian gatherings, taxes its members tenth, 1/10, 10% and possibly 0.1 too, of their financial income) 3) There is obligatory tithe imposed by custom law (i.e. Abraham's tithing was done, due to the social setting of that time) 4) There is obligatory tithe imposed by monarchy law (i.e. tenth of seed and of vineyards, given to the king's officials and servants)
Now, there is another, which is voluntary tithe, The nuance in this sort of tithe or tithing, is that it isn't imposed by the Mosaic law, not by christian gatherings law or by any custom law. For the attention of Horlufemi, this one, this so called "voluntary tithe" happens or occurs, when FREELY, one DECIDES to GIVE, a tenth of one's financial standing, as a form of contribution or donation toward's any Kingdom purposes, aid or means. In fact, the beauty and tithing subtle difference, is that, it is NOT obligatory or imposed
Bible writers and God use the terms, tenth and titheinterchangeably. So if I voluntarily give 10%, a tenth or 10 out 100 of my money contribution or donation toward's Kingdom purposes, aid or means, I technically have given a tithe. Considering that it is not a taxed, obligatory or imposition tithe, then I am free, to go ahead voluntarily giving it
All tithes or tithings, are a form of giving but NOT all giving are a tenth, tithe or tithing because the giving could be more or less than a tenth, tithe or tithing
The Bible's message today, is about a revolutionary way of giving, where believers are instructed or urged as in 2 Corinthians 9:7 above
Giving could be 50% today, as in 50% equals half of your money Giving could be 10% next month, as in 10% equals a tithe, tenth, or 10 out 100 of your money (i.e. voluntarytithe, voluntarily giving 10%) Giving could be 100% following month, as in 100%, equals all of your money Giving could be 0% following month after, as in 0%, equals zero goes out of your money Could decide to give 1% month following after, as in 1%, equals 1 out 100 of your money The giving cycle is not fixed, it might repeat or not repeat itself How much you give, changes according to the amount or percentage, you willingly over the passage of time, decide to give
It is the freedom, to give whatever you're comfortable with cheerfully. This sort of giving regardless of the percentages is desirable but not obligatory. Without stipulating amounts to give, you're are being trusted to know, to do the 3 right things
You must each decide in your heart how much to give. And don't give reluctantly or in response to pressure. (i.e. you shouldn't be sorry that you gave or feel forced to give) "For God loves a person who gives cheerfully." - 2 Corinthians 9:7
It is obligatory, taxed or imposed tithing that Christians cannot tithe
It is imposed tithing, it is dead with the law and believers are not obligated to perform any form of imposed tithing
What alBHAGDADI and others he is in cahoot with dont want to correctively preach, is that the Bible teaches the "church" the revolutionary way of giving, where believers are instructed or urged in 2 Corinthians 9:7 above, to do
2 Corinthians 9:7, by the way actually, is a rehashed principle God HAS always endorsed, as evident in Exodus 25:2, Exodus 35:29, Deuteronomy 15:10 & 1 Chronicles 29:9
alBHAGDADI and anyone can go check out Exodus 25:2, Exodus 35:29, Deuteronomy 15:10 & 1 Chronicles 29:9 to find out that God is doing a full circle with this give as you determine in your heart without being under compulsion cc Goshen360, OkaiCorne, OKcornel, openmine, Anas09
What is today called alBHAGDADI? What was yesterday called alBHAGDADI? Those names of the day are borrowed ideas from whom and where alBHAGDADI?
Do you now see, what an ignorant and a shameless hypocrite you are, huh? I have more but it just that I dont kick someone when they are down, so I'll leave it just at that, just continue reading on, to learn more and gain proper and correct knowledge on tithing, OK?I already knew you didnt first know we are singing from the same hymn book
Christians and believers can tithe if they so decided in their heart and are not coerced, being forced people to give, aren't getting threatened with fear of curses, calamity or misfortune if they don't give an imposed and/or obligatory ecclesiastical monitised tithe giving. As long as specified financial demands aren't forced on people, it isn't a prob. If people willing and on their own initiative give tithe, that's OK
Let's just go there. There really is no percentage on giving for believers. All God requires, is a cheerful giving, that you decide in your heart without being forced or coerced to give. As a matter of fact, it is any amount that you're comfortable with and be in accordance to the level of grace you've received, only that there is a caveat that whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously
The Greek original word, "die", used in Matthew 23:23, means, it is necessary, to tithe and so when that necessity is over, that duty or responsibility to tithe, is no longer required or needed It was under that or those then present circumstances, that people like alBHAGDADI dont understand, that Jesus says to tithe, and not the thereafter
People like alBHAGDADI and others, dont want to recognise that the only tithes used to be given to God were: 1) the Levitical tithe aka Mosaic Law tithe, which are given to God via the priest (e.g. Levite) and 2) the Abraham type of tithe, given to God, via a priest cum king (e.g. Melchizedek) - see #3 below
Other tithes in a secular world context (i.e. tenth, 1/10, 10% and possibly 0.1) also given are: 1) At pagan temples to priest(s) (note alBHAGDADI extra biblical references will be provided upon your request, same with #3 below) 2) Upon the king's demand's (note alBHAGDADI bible references also will be provided upon your request) 3) To a local ruler cum priest of a god or God, worthy of the consideration, after taking up arms, go to fight and winning battle fight(s) or war slaughering enemies
Now this is breaking it further down for easier understanding for the likes of alBHAGDADI and others 1) There is obligatory tithe imposed by the Mosaic law (i.e. the Levitical tithe also known as the Mosaic Law tithe) 2) There is obligatory tithe imposed by the christian gatherings law (i.e. ecclesiastical tithe, where christian gatherings, taxes its members tenth, 1/10, 10% and possibly 0.1 too, of their financial income) 3) There is obligatory tithe imposed by custom law (i.e. Abraham's tithing was done, due to the social setting of that time) 4) There is obligatory tithe imposed by monarchy law (i.e. tenth of seed and of vineyards, given to the king's officials and servants)
Now, there is another, which is voluntary tithe, The nuance in this sort of tithe or tithing, is that it isn't imposed by the Mosaic law, not by christian gatherings law or by any custom law. For the attention of Horlufemi, this one, this so called "voluntary tithe" happens or occurs, when FREELY, one DECIDES to GIVE, a tenth of one's financial standing, as a form of contribution or donation toward's any Kingdom purposes, aid or means. In fact, the beauty and tithing subtle difference, is that, it is NOT obligatory or imposed
Bible writers and God use the terms, tenth and titheinterchangeably. So if I voluntarily give 10%, a tenth or 10 out 100 of my money contribution or donation toward's Kingdom purposes, aid or means, I technically have given a tithe. Considering that it is not a taxed, obligatory or imposition tithe, then I am free, to go ahead voluntarily giving it
All tithes or tithings, are a form of giving but NOT all giving are a tenth, tithe or tithing because the giving could be more or less than a tenth, tithe or tithing
The Bible's message today, is about a revolutionary way of giving, where believers are instructed or urged as in 2 Corinthians 9:7 above
Giving could be 50% today, as in 50% equals half of your money Giving could be 10% next month, as in 10% equals a tithe, tenth, or 10 out 100 of your money (i.e. voluntarytithe, voluntarily giving 10%) Giving could be 100% following month, as in 100%, equals all of your money Giving could be 0% following month after, as in 0%, equals zero goes out of your money Could decide to give 1% month following after, as in 1%, equals 1 out 100 of your money The giving cycle is not fixed, it might repeat or not repeat itself How much you give, changes according to the amount or percentage, you willingly over the passage of time, decide to give
It is the freedom, to give whatever you're comfortable with cheerfully. This sort of giving regardless of the percentages is desirable but not obligatory. Without stipulating amounts to give, you're are being trusted to know, to do the 3 right things
You must each decide in your heart how much to give. And don't give reluctantly or in response to pressure. (i.e. you shouldn't be sorry that you gave or feel forced to give) "For God loves a person who gives cheerfully." - 2 Corinthians 9:7
It is obligatory, taxed or imposed tithing that Christians cannot tithe
It is imposed tithing, it is dead with the law and believers are not obligated to perform any form of imposed tithing
What alBHAGDADI and others he is in cahoot with dont want to correctively preach, is that the Bible teaches the "church" the revolutionary way of giving, where believers are instructed or urged in 2 Corinthians 9:7 above, to do
2 Corinthians 9:7, by the way actually, is a rehashed principle God HAS always endorsed, as evident in Exodus 25:2, Exodus 35:29, Deuteronomy 15:10 & 1 Chronicles 29:9
alBHAGDADI and anyone can go check out Exodus 25:2, Exodus 35:29, Deuteronomy 15:10 & 1 Chronicles 29:9 to find out that God is doing a full circle with this give as you determine in your heart without being under compulsion cc Goshen360, OkaiCorne, OKcornel, openmine, Anas09
Bros, I'm done haggling over this issue. I pay my Tithe religiously and i'm not going to stop.
Anas09: Bros, I'm done haggling over this issue. I pay my tithe religiously and i'm not going to stop.
Aunty, no one is saying do not tithe, but that when matters come to financial giving, this isnt fixed or set in stone as a regular 10% or tithe and nor is it to be in the form of an imposed and/or obligatory ecclesiastical monitised tithe giving. Also for your information, what you are expected to religiously do is showing empathy and/or being compassionate, as in show compassion, and not religiously tithe, as you put.
Here is something to try out, let me know how much you tithe every month because for the next three months, I want you to stop religiously give tithe but instead be doing cheerful giving by deciding in your heart, the amount you are comfortable to give, it could 5%, could be 0.01%, could be 50%, could be 75%, could be 95%, could even be 10%, in a very strange or unusual manner, could even be 0%, then if after the three months period, if you dont benefit from having a better and prosperous good life, divine blessing, breakthroughs and favour but calamity, misfortune, loss or decrease in financial standing befalls you then I will reimburse your loss with interest and you can go back to what you previously were doing. Are you game?
MuttleyLaff: Aunty, no one is saying do not tithe, but that when matters come to financial giving, this isnt fixed or set in stone as a regular 10% or tithe and nor is it to be in the form of an imposed and/or obligatory ecclesiastical monitised tithe giving. Also for your information, what you are expected to religiously do is showing empathy and/or being compassionate, as in show compassion, and not religiously tithe, as you put.
Here is something to try out, let me know how much you tithe every month because for the next three months, I want you to stop religiously give tithe but instead be doing cheerful giving by deciding in your heart, the amount you are comfortable to give, it could 5%, could be 0.01%, could be 50%, could be 75%, could be 95%, could even be 10%, in a very strange or unusual manner, could even be 0%, then if after the three months period, if you dont benefit from having a better and prosperous good life, divine blessing, breakthroughs and favour but calamity, misfortune, loss or decrease in financial standing befalls you then I will reimburse your loss with interest and you can go back to what you previously were doing. Are you game?
I hope you already know what i do with the orphans? So, it's not the case of me tithing but not being compassionate to those who need me. Nevertheless i will do as you say.
But, again, to me, it makes no difference who collects it, ultimately, i am giving to Jesus, The Eternal High Priest. So, a beg can collect it, an orphan, a widow, or a pastor can collect it, but they are not the ones i see when i give, I see Jesus.
So, where am i going to let you know how much I'll be giving out? Here or outside of here?
Remember what the right hand gives shd not be known by the left hand.
And, when you say 'Giving Cheerfully', is my tithing not done Cheerfully?
If you are a Christian pay your tithe, it is to support the gospel. I pay my tithe with joy. If you love God you would glorify him with your substance which don't even belong to you. The early Christians gave all that they have for the gospel and here we are arguing against ordinary 10%.
The issue is not about tithe but because men love darkness rather than light.
Abraham joyfully tithed why trouble those that follow the foot step of abraham.
People who criticize tithe see nothing wrong in paying tax to worldly government but come out to attack anything finance to God.
Galatians 3:7 Know ye therefore that they which are of faith, the same are the children of Abraham.
Some false teachers preach that the law is bad and judge the law but they are deceivers and liars.
I believe 100% in grace but there is nothing wrong with the law the problem is that the law is more perfect than us humans and we can't get justified by it but the law contains principles that if you keep it you will be blessed.
Anas09: I hope you already know what i do with the orphans? So, it's not the case of me tithing but not being compassionate to those who need me. Nevertheless i will do as you say.
But, again, to me, it makes no difference who collects it, ultimately, i am giving to Jesus, The Eternal High Priest. So, a beg can collect it, an orphan, a widow, or a pastor can collect it, but they are not the ones i see when i give, I see Jesus.
So, where am i going to let you know how much I'll be giving out? Here or outside of here?
Remember what the right hand gives shd not be known by the left hand.
And, when you say 'Giving Cheerfully', is my tithing not done Cheerfully?
I am glad you aware of what religiously, believers, truly are expected to do
Biblically speaking, "giving cheerfully" means, you, decide in your heart yourself, how much to give, and you never give reluctantly or in response to pressure. You don't feel sorry that you must give or feel sorry that you cant afford to give. You dont, out of necessity give, you dont under compulsion give. The reason for all those, being that God wants people to be free spirited and give in good and not troubled spirits. God has set every believer free, to be independent and not be limited by human traditions or constrained by convention.
Go check out Exodus 25:2, Exodus 35:29, Deuteronomy 15:10 & 1 Chronicles 29:9, read them all, to find out that God is doing a full circle with this, give as you determine in your heart without being under compulsion thing.
Now tell: 1/ Is the tithe you give an imposed and/or obligatory ecclesiastical monitised tithe giving? 2/ Is this 10% you religiously give, so decided in your heart and you are not coerced, being forced to give, aren't getting threatened with fear of curses, calamity or misfortune if not participating in this imposed and/or obligatory ecclesiastical monitised tithe giving?
MuttleyLaff: I am glad you aware of what religiously believers truly are expected to do
Biblically speaking, "Giving Cheerfully" means, you, decide in your heart yourself, how much to give, and you never give reluctantly or in response to pressure. You don't feel sorry that you must give or feel sorry that you cant afford to give. You dont, out of necessity give, you dont under compulsion give. The reason for all those, being that God wants people to be free spirited and give in good and not troubled spirits. God has set every believer free, to be independent and not be limited by human traditions or constrained by convention
Now tell: 1/ Is the tithe you give an imposed and/or obligatory ecclesiastical monitised tithe giving? 2/ Is this 10% you religiously give, so decided in your heart and you are not coerced, being forced to give, aren't getting threatened with fear of curses, calamity or misfortune if not participating in this imposed and/or obligatory ecclesiastical monitised tithe giving?
1. Tithe is not imposed on me because no one demands to know if i pay my tithe or not. And, many people don't pay tithe and it's not a criteria for membership in my Church. There's no register to note who pays and who doesn't.
I would know if there is, because i count offering in my Church.
2. I saw 100% in the Bible and i also saw that i give to Jesus my Eternal High Priest, not to a man. And, no one threatens me with curses of calamities. I have never been coerced to give. The day I hear Bishop Oyedepo threaten people with Calamity to pay Tithe, i'll leave Living Faith. If you have heard him, pls let me see.
3. And i monetize my tithe because i live in the city, i am not a farmer. And i get blessed abundantly for tithing, if it's obsolete why then am i being blessed?
Especially in my health. You don't want know what my health was like before i became a faithful tither.
I shall rebuke the devourer works for me like fire. Do you know how much medication was taking me before now?
Pls bros, you don't do it, it's okay. I see it's benefits i will keep doing it.
Life, both in Heaven and on earth is ruled on giving. If you give, you'd receive. So long as your motives are genuine, you'd receive.
Anas09: 1. Tithe is not imposed on me because no one demands to know if i pay my tithe or not. And, many people don't pay tithe and it's not a criteria for membership in my Church. There's no register to note who pays and who doesn't.
I would know if there is, because i count offering in my Church.
2. I saw 100% in the Bible and i also saw that i give to Jesus my Eternal High Priest, not to a man. And, no one threatens me with curses of calamities. I have never been coerced to give. The day I hear Bishop Oyedepo threaten people with Calamity to pay Tithe, i'll leave Living Faith. If you have heard him, pls let me see.
"Tithing is an inescapable covenant obligation. You can’t escape poverty if you don’t pay your tithes. Rather, you come under a curse because God says ye are robbing Him (Malachi 3:5). The tithe is God’s. So no matter how much you give in other areas, if your tithe is out of place, you will still come under a curse, because you are robbing God. It is the master key to enjoying financial fortune" - Bishop David Oyedepo
I am not trying to cause a chasm between you and the beloved Bishop David Oyedepo but now that you have watched the above YouTube video and read the double inverted commas by him, what honestly, truthfully and sincerely retrospectively have you to say about them.
I have another video, that I believe the Holy Spirit made Bishop David Oyedepo make but he was oblivious of the message in it
Anas09: 3. And i monetize my tithe because i live in the city, i am not a farmer. And i get blessed abundantly for tithing, if it's obsolete why then am i being blessed?
Especially in my health. You don't want know what my health was like before i became a faithful tither.
I shall rebuke the devourer works for me like fire. Do you know how much medication was taking me before now?
Pls bros, you don't do it, it's okay. I see it's benefits i will keep doing it.
Life, both in Heaven and on earth is ruled on giving. If you give, you'd receive. So long as your motives are genuine, you'd receive.
Just like you, I too used to be responsible for totalling up tithe & offering giving but after seeing the light, I stopped religiously doing tithe giving and started cheerful giving many moons ago, that is to say a very long time ago, and I have never for a moment ever lacked anything, be it health, financial, wisdom, material or otherwise. Glory be to God, in leaps and bounds, it has been blessings, divine assistance, favour, breakthroughs and the miraculous all the way through to date.
"Tithing is an inescapable covenant obligation. You can’t escape poverty if you don’t pay your tithes. Rather, you come under a curse because God says ye are robbing Him (Malachi 3:5). The tithe is God’s. So no matter how much you give in other areas, if your tithe is out of place, you will still come under a curse, because you are robbing God. It is the master key to enjoying financial fortune" - Bishop David Oyedepo
I am not trying to cause a chasm between you and the beloved Bishop David Oyedepo but now that you have watched the above YouTube video and read the double inverted commas by him, what honestly, truthfully and sincerely retrospectively have you to say about them.
I have another video, that I believe the Holy Spirit made Bishop David Oyedepo make but he was oblivious of the message in it
Just like you, I too used to be responsible for totalling up tithe & offering giving but after seeing the light, I stopped religiously doing tithe giving and started cheerful giving many moons ago, that is to say a very long time ago, and I have never for a moment ever lacked anything, be it health, financial, wisdom, material or otherwise. Glory be to God, in leaps and bounds, it has been blessings, divine assistance, favour, breakthroughs and the miraculous all the way through to date.
You quoted Malachi but said Oyedepo said it?
Sir. I am not a Pastor follower, i am a Bible studying believer, so you can't sway me when i'm convicted of a thing.
He never laid a curse on anyone, he simply quoted the Bible. There's notthing he said there that i can't find in the Bible. Good, you give cheerfully and receive, i pay tithe and also give cheerfully and i get dangerously blessed too. The most important thing is we receive when we give. As long as i live, i will pay my Tithe to my Eternal High Priest. Whether i give it to the orphans, or widows, or begers, so long as it is my 10% income, i give it to Jesus. But i'll more likely give that in the Church and give Cheerfully to others.
Anas09: You quoted Malachi but said Oyedepo said it?
What you read in the double inverted commas quotation are exactly Bishop David Oyedepo's words verbatim and from the horse mouth
Anas09: Sir. I am not a Pastor follower, I am a Bible studying believer, so you can't sway me when i'm convicted of a thing.
He never laid a curse on anyone, he simply quoted the Bible. There's notthing he said there that i can't find in the Bible. Good, you give cheerfully and receive, i pay tithe and also give cheerfully and i get dangerously blessed too. The most important thing is we receive when we give. As long as i live, i will pay my Tithe to my Eternal High Priest. Whether i give it to the orphans, or widows, or begers, so long as it is my 10% income, i give it to Jesus. But i'll more likely give that in the Church and give Cheerfully to others.
What is my own to sway you. If a crooked stick is before anyone, you need not convict them how crooked it is. Just lay a straight one down by the side of it, and the work is well done. Explain the truth, and the error of the way will be put out
1/ You seem to obsessively have an attachment to 10%, so please can you give me an authentic and biblical reasons why you strongly are fixated to giving this particularly specified regular without failing 10%? 2/ Also what is the rationale for sticking to 10% and never doing another other percentages? 3/ Is your adherence following an Abrahamic style of tithing or it is a Levitical style of tithing? 4/ I took a leap of faith, I stopped giving tithe and hadnt had cause to look back in regret ever since I took that decision, can you or are you scared of something if you too do?
What is today called alBHAGDADI? What was yesterday called alBHAGDADI? Those names of the day are borrowed ideas from whom and where alBHAGDADI?
Do you now see, what an ignorant and a shameless hypocrite you are, huh? I have more but it just that I dont kick someone when they are down, so I'll leave it just at that, just continue reading on, to learn more and gain proper and correct knowledge on tithing, OK?I already knew you didnt first know we are singing from the same hymn book
Christians and believers can tithe if they so decided in their heart and are not coerced, being forced people to give, aren't getting threatened with fear of curses, calamity or misfortune if they don't give an imposed and/or obligatory ecclesiastical monitised tithe giving. As long as specified financial demands aren't forced on people, it isn't a prob. If people willing and on their own initiative give tithe, that's OK
Let's just go there. There really is no percentage on giving for believers. All God requires, is a cheerful giving, that you decide in your heart without being forced or coerced to give. As a matter of fact, it is any amount that you're comfortable with and be in accordance to the level of grace you've received, only that there is a caveat that whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly, and whoever sows generously will also reap generously
The Greek original word, "die", used in Matthew 23:23, means, it is necessary, to tithe and so when that necessity is over, that duty or responsibility to tithe, is no longer required or needed It was under that or those then present circumstances, that people like alBHAGDADI dont understand, that Jesus says to tithe, and not the thereafter
People like alBHAGDADI and others, dont want to recognise that the only tithes used to be given to God were: 1) the Levitical tithe aka Mosaic Law tithe, which are given to God via the priest (e.g. Levite) and 2) the Abraham type of tithe, given to God, via a priest cum king (e.g. Melchizedek) - see #3 below
Other tithes in a secular world context (i.e. tenth, 1/10, 10% and possibly 0.1) also given are: 1) At pagan temples to priest(s) (note alBHAGDADI extra biblical references will be provided upon your request, same with #3 below) 2) Upon the king's demand's (note alBHAGDADI bible references also will be provided upon your request) 3) To a local ruler cum priest of a god or God, worthy of the consideration, after taking up arms, go to fight and winning battle fight(s) or war slaughering enemies
Now this is breaking it further down for easier understanding for the likes of alBHAGDADI and others 1) There is obligatory tithe imposed by the Mosaic law (i.e. the Levitical tithe also known as the Mosaic Law tithe) 2) There is obligatory tithe imposed by the christian gatherings law (i.e. ecclesiastical tithe, where christian gatherings, taxes its members tenth, 1/10, 10% and possibly 0.1 too, of their financial income) 3) There is obligatory tithe imposed by custom law (i.e. Abraham's tithing was done, due to the social setting of that time) 4) There is obligatory tithe imposed by monarchy law (i.e. tenth of seed and of vineyards, given to the king's officials and servants)
Now, there is another, which is voluntary tithe, The nuance in this sort of tithe or tithing, is that it isn't imposed by the Mosaic law, not by christian gatherings law or by any custom law. For the attention of Horlufemi, this one, this so called "voluntary tithe" happens or occurs, when FREELY, one DECIDES to GIVE, a tenth of one's financial standing, as a form of contribution or donation toward's any Kingdom purposes, aid or means. In fact, the beauty and tithing subtle difference, is that, it is NOT obligatory or imposed
Bible writers and God use the terms, tenth and titheinterchangeably. So if I voluntarily give 10%, a tenth or 10 out 100 of my money contribution or donation toward's Kingdom purposes, aid or means, I technically have given a tithe. Considering that it is not a taxed, obligatory or imposition tithe, then I am free, to go ahead voluntarily giving it
All tithes or tithings, are a form of giving but NOT all giving are a tenth, tithe or tithing because the giving could be more or less than a tenth, tithe or tithing
The Bible's message today, is about a revolutionary way of giving, where believers are instructed or urged as in 2 Corinthians 9:7 above
Giving could be 50% today, as in 50% equals half of your money Giving could be 10% next month, as in 10% equals a tithe, tenth, or 10 out 100 of your money (i.e. voluntarytithe, voluntarily giving 10%) Giving could be 100% following month, as in 100%, equals all of your money Giving could be 0% following month after, as in 0%, equals zero goes out of your money Could decide to give 1% month following after, as in 1%, equals 1 out 100 of your money The giving cycle is not fixed, it might repeat or not repeat itself How much you give, changes according to the amount or percentage, you willingly over the passage of time, decide to give
It is the freedom, to give whatever you're comfortable with cheerfully. This sort of giving regardless of the percentages is desirable but not obligatory. Without stipulating amounts to give, you're are being trusted to know, to do the 3 right things
You must each decide in your heart how much to give. And don't give reluctantly or in response to pressure. (i.e. you shouldn't be sorry that you gave or feel forced to give) "For God loves a person who gives cheerfully." - 2 Corinthians 9:7
It is obligatory, taxed or imposed tithing that Christians cannot tithe
It is imposed tithing, it is dead with the law and believers are not obligated to perform any form of imposed tithing
What alBHAGDADI and others he is in cahoot with dont want to correctively preach, is that the Bible teaches the "church" the revolutionary way of giving, where believers are instructed or urged in 2 Corinthians 9:7 above, to do
2 Corinthians 9:7, by the way actually, is a rehashed principle God HAS always endorsed, as evident in Exodus 25:2, Exodus 35:29, Deuteronomy 15:10 & 1 Chronicles 29:9
alBHAGDADI and anyone can go check out Exodus 25:2, Exodus 35:29, Deuteronomy 15:10 & 1 Chronicles 29:9 to find out that God is doing a full circle with this give as you determine in your heart without being under compulsion cc Goshen360, OkaiCorne, OKcornel, openmine, Anas09
Don't mind that shekau alBHAGDADI guy. The way I see it is that tithe is paying tax. It simply means 10%. It's is also mandatory. Christians should give anything they like in any percentage they seem fit and it's not mandatory. We can give 1%-100% as the spirit leads. There's a difference between paying and giving. Giving comes from the heart and true giving is giving with love without expecting anything back. I just can accept we call it tithe. Give as much as you can. Without being coerced threatened and forced.
But the Mr Shekau or albadgaddy is blinded by prosperity gospel.
MuttleyLaff: What you read in the double inverted commas quotation are exactly Bishop David Oyedepo's words verbatim and from the horse mouth
What is my own to sway you. If a crooked stick is before anyone, you need not convict them how crooked it is. Just lay a straight one down by the side of it, and the work is well done. Explain the truth, and the error of the way will be put out
1/ You seem obsessively attachment to 10%, so please can you give me an authentic and biblical reasons why you strongly are fixated to giving this particularly specified regular without failing 10%? 2/ Also what is the rationale for sticking to 10% and never doing another other percentages? 3/ Is your adherence following an Abrahamic style of tithing or it is a Levitical style of tithing? 4/ I took a leap of faith, I stopped giving tithe and hadnt had cause to look back in regret ever since I took that decision, can you or are you scared of something if you too do?
My brother make we lif dis mata. notin go change. Jesus is my High Priest, i shall pay my tithe to Him and i do this in freedom, not compulsion.
Anas09: My brother make we lif dis mata. notin go change. Jesus is my High Priest, i shall pay my tithe to Him and i do this in freedom, not compulsion.
Tithing is an inescapable covenant obligation. You can’t escape poverty if you don’t pay your tithes. Rather, you come under a curse because God says ye are robbing Him (Malachi 3:5). The tithe is God’s. So no matter how much you give in other areas, if your tithe is out of place, you will still come under a curse, because you are robbing God. It is the master key to enjoying financial fortune" - Bishop David Oyedepo
OK Anas09 but do you believe, agree and accept all that Bishop Oyedepo stated in the above double inverted commas quote?
"Tithing is an inescapable covenant obligation. You can’t escape poverty if you don’t pay your tithes. Rather, you come under a curse because God says ye are robbing Him (Malachi 3:5). The tithe is God’s. So no matter how much you give in other areas, if your tithe is out of place, you will still come under a curse, because you are robbing God. It is the master key to enjoying financial fortune" - Bishop David Oyedepo
It's so irritating how this man can conjole all kinds or spiritual statement that doesn't align with scripture and on top of that, no scripture verses to support all those conjole he's making....
Abraham tithing, Mosaic tithing or Ecclesiastical tithing, what matters is tithing. You argument is that mosaic tithing only states to bring agricultural produce. This is why you wonder why today's tithing is asking for money. Don't you know that the priesthood which collected agricultural produce as tithe has changed, so therefore the law also has changed. This is why money is now being collected instead of agricultural produce cos the law as simply changed.
Hebrews 7:12 KJV For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
I chose to be wise by honoring God with my tithe even though he doesn't need it to exist .
Proverbs 3:9 Honour the LORD with thy substance, and with the firstfruits of all thine increase:
Whether Jacob tithed or not is not the issue but the fact that it existed during his time just as it was with his grandfather Abraham. Now, how dare you say Jacob never tithed? How dare you say what the Bible never said?
My only book for spiritual guidance is the bible, not some artifacts or historical findings. What you are saying now is that Abraham borrowed the idea of tithing from pagans and gave tithe to God who accepted it? To you, God has been borrowing ideas from pagans. Please, stop reading all this historical findings filled with jargons. They are all inspired by Satan who also dug up some false manuscript and claim they are the older manuscripts of the Bible even though they contain flaws. That manuscript has led to all these false modern Bible versions we have today.
Abraham didn't tithe because he saw the pagans around him tithing. Stop believing what your Bible doesnt tell you, else you believe falsehood.
Abraham tithed out of faith in God. This means God told him to do it. He heard the word of God telling him to tithe and so he had faith in it.
Romans 10:17 (KJV) So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
You say Abraham tithed only once? Are you expecting the Bible to be all about the amount of times Abraham paid tithes? As if there aren't other stories to write about.
The bolded in red adds to your collection of lies and falsehood...
Please where exactly did the rule of tithing change from agro-produce to money?
The bolded in red adds to your collection of lies and falsehood...
Please where exactly did the rule of tithing change from agro-produce to money?
Tithing under the law had to do with agricultural produce. But since the priesthood changed to what we have since Jesus Christ, the law of old also changed. That's why money is collected instead of farm produce.
Hebrews 7:12 KJV For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
Don't mind that shekau alBHAGDADI guy. The way I see it is that tithe is paying tax. It simply means 10%. It's is also mandatory. Christians should give anything they like in any percentage they seem fit and it's not mandatory. We can give 1%-100% as the spirit leads. There's a difference between paying and giving. Giving comes from the heart and true giving is giving with love without expecting anything back. I just can accept we call it tithe. Give as much as you can. Without being coerced threatened and forced.
But the Mr Shekau or albadgaddy is blinded by prosperity gospel.
Oh, you didn't know that tithes is similar to tax? I'm glad you know the difference between paying and giving. You pay what you owe while you give what without compulsion. Tithe is paid because you owe it to God. That's why God said you are robbing him in Malachai 3:10.
You claim Christians are to give whatever comes to their mind. That's very wrong to a large extent, especially based on your thinking. But according to Jesus, Christians are to give 100% to him.
Matthew 19:21-26 King James Version (KJV) Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
You are here complaining that 10% is too much whereas it's 100% Jesus requires from his followers. And of you thinking giving 100% is impossible, read the last verse again.
Oh, you didn't know that tithes is similar to tax? I'm glad you know the difference between paying and giving. You pay what you owe while you give what without compulsion. Tithe is paid because you owe it to God. That's why God said you are robbing him in Malachai 3:10.
You claim Christians are to give whatever comes to their mind. That's very wrong to a large extent, especially based on your thinking. But according to Jesus, Christians are to give 100% to him.
Matthew 19:21-26 King James Version (KJV) Jesus said unto him, If thou wilt be perfect, go and sell that thou hast, and give to the poor, and thou shalt have treasure in heaven: and come and follow me. But when the young man heard that saying, he went away sorrowful: for he had great possessions. Then said Jesus unto his disciples, Verily I say unto you, That a rich man shall hardly enter into the kingdom of heaven. And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God. When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved? But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
You are here complaining that 10% is too much whereas it's 100% Jesus requires from his followers. And of you thinking giving 100% is impossible, read the last verse again.
Bobo stop saying what I didn't say. I never complained about 10%. My concern is 1. we should not call giving in this era tithe because they are different things. 2. It is very possible to give 100% if the Church is operating today like the early Church but you by yourself can you give 100% today. Honest answer please.
Tithing under the law had to do with agricultural produce. But since the priesthood changed to what we have since Jesus Christ, the law of old also changed. That's why money is collected instead of farm produce.
Hebrews 7:12 KJV For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law.
You are still repeating this lie?
1) Where in the Scriptures was it expressly stated that tithe changed from agro-produce to money? 2) Where in the Scriptures does it expressly mention that a change in the Law automatically meant that money replaced agro-produce as tithe? 3) Where in the Scriptures can we see Christians that practiced monetary tithing since according to you, Hebrews 7 v 12 changed the basis of tithing from agro-produce to money?
If you can't back this with anything evidence from the scriptures, then it is clear that this is your assumption...and not the facts on ground...
and stop underestimating God's love for us
