Maximus69:
OK you don't like that word 'claim'
Well it's because that is how many described christians,they'll say christians are those professing'claiming' faith in Jesus{christ}.
But let's leave that aside.
Are you saying we should accept all religious groups professing Christ as one Christian family globally?

achorladey:


Maximus69: Are you saying we should accept all religious groups PROFESSING Christ as one CHRISTIAN FAMILY GLOBALLY?

Achorladey: Meaning of the word PROFESS according to Webster dictionary

1. to say or declare (something) openly: 

2. to say that you are, do, or feel something when other people doubt what you say: 

3. to believe in (a particular religion).

Now with the above DEFINITION how well do you think this relates to the question posed

Romans 10: 10 For with the HEART one BELIEVES and thus has righteousness and with the MOUTH one CONFESSES and thus has SALVATION. 11 For the scripture says, “EVERYONE who BELIEVES in HIM will NOT be PUT to SHAME.” 12 For there is no DISTINCTION between the JEW and the GREEK, for the same LORD is LORD of ALL, who richly blesses all who call on him.13 For EVERYONE who CALLS on the NAME of the LORD will be SAVED.

Maximus69:
Good evening Sir,please let's stay away from each other's posts since you're always taking things personal! Please i don't want to get involved in some 'emotional blackmail'
God bless you Sir!

achorladey:


TATIME:You've stylishly silenced me na!
You emphatically said "it's HALF BAKED JWs that do participate in social media arguments,adding that devoted JWs don't get involved in all of these because the Governing Body ordered us not to do so"
Of course that's a fact! So why would you expect me to continue in fruitless DEBATES with FIERCE CRITICS and APOSTATES like achorladey, Hairyrapunzel and likes?

Achorladey: That word STOP DEBATING with APOSTATES is your RUNAWAY CLAUSE from the POSER by Maximus69 abi? Prove in clear TERMS SCRIPTURALLY what makes Hairyrapunzel and Achorladey an APOSTATE.

So you agree you are HALF BAKED JWS while you were busy DEBATING with us. Hahahahahaha TATIME! It EVEN have to take a NON Jws as it WERE to TELL YOU what to do. Hahahahahaha. TATIME!


Na JESUS responsibility to SEEK OUT the LOST SHEEP of ISREAL that JESUS did SUCCESSFULLY. But as for YOU and I we are to go to PEOPLE OF ALL NATIONS. Matthew 28:19,20 Acts 1:8

But you will receive power when the holy spirit comes upon you, and you will be WITNESSES of me in JERUSALEM, in all Ju·deʹa and Sa·marʹi·a, and to the MOST DISTANT PART OF the EARTH.

TATIME:
Please Maximus69, can i become your friend on any other social media? e.g Instagram,Facebook,Twitter just anyone because i'll be glad to know you in person!
I really love your high intellect of response towards that useless sadist called Hairyrapunzel. He claims to be happy,feels everyone should be allowed to choose what they want,wants to be on his own without control but agitating profusely because some individuals {GROWNUPS} have decided to remain loyal to an organization.
Haba na him want decide for them.
OK,waka pass~he no gree.
Comot face~he say no.
Abeg where he dey when the world agree sey people get FREEDOM of speech,expression and worship.
However thanks again Maximus for intelligently exposing Hairy as a SADIST!

Maximus69:
You're welcome Sir,but i think you shouldn't have labelled him a 'sadist'. Jesus died for the whole world and that includes all individuals locked up within the confines of different facets of Adamic sinful nature passed unto all his descendants. So he's just too emotional that's all,and if he is willing he can still work on such trait to rid it off, that is 'if he is willing'. But until then, he is to be appreciated as one of Adam's offspring 'a prospective brother' to be found in God's kingdom when the earth becomes a Paradise! I'm sure that each and everyone of us had one Adamic sinful trait or the other before we started studying the Bible with the aid of Bible based publications from the Watchtower. Today majority of the millions now claiming JWs around the globe have lived a debased form of lives in the past! 1Corinthians 6:9-11

Hairyrapunzel:


Na you know. Last last Armageddon and Paradise earth is still imaginary. That is it isn't real. It will never happen.
We are not zombies that think our God will slaughter people who don't belong to our denomination or obey the leaders of the denomination with vultures eating their corpses. We ain't zombies that believe that we will live on earth forever because it isn't real and will never happen.

Janosky:


This hairy guy is an atheist pretending to be a Christian.

Even the flood of Noah's day "isn't real and will never happen"
Matt24:36-39. 2pet 3:1-7.

Kolo Pharisee dey form Christian.

TATIME:
This is the ONLY difference that distinguish the JWs as a unique group of OBEDIENT individuals!
Please note how all the JWs have stopped doing what our GOVERNING BODY has warned us to desist from!
Imagine if every religious group have such grip on their followers,how do you think it will be easier for the rulers to make policies and be rest assured that their citizens will abide with patriotism?
Hmmmmmm i think Maximus has proven that ONLY the JWs are faithfully following the pattern set by the first century Christians,as all members quickly comply with the directives of those currently serving as overseers! Nobody forced us to stay clear from unfruitful debates and arguments but the Bible. Our GB only base their resolve on what the scripture says,so whoever feels like it's not binding on him{even if such happens to be a member of the GB} is NOMORE fit to continue as one of Jehovah's Witnesses.
Aren't you moved with such orderliness of the greatest value? Well honesthearted people can bear witness that JWs are ORDERLY!

Maximus69:
Hmmm
Then you're of the opinion that all those who confesses Jesus as lord 'with the mouth' are christians,that one is clearly understood.
But there are many confessing with their mouth yet their hearts are far removed from Christ. Matthew 7:21-23,15:8,9
@ Psalm 101:4 it is written 'a froward heart shall depart from me,i will not know a wicked person' according to this scripture God will not accept some people even if they keep confessing they belong to God.
With that at heart how do we solve this tough riddle?

achorladey:


All your cited scriptures in the post above GOES or made EMPHASIS on the HEART, so I was WONDERING what were you READING in the post you responded to when the KEY to the RIDDLE is contained in the FIRST verse of the scriptures I cited. Here it is again but read closely this time.

Romans 10: 10 For with the HEART one BELIEVES and thus has righteousness and with the MOUTH one CONFESSES and thus has SALVATION.

Maximus69:

If it is 'with the heart' there is no way you can evaluate the quality or quantity of someone's faith that dwells 'in their hearts'!
I have been with JWs for months now and everything i learnt from those with whom i study the Bible using their watchtower publications was based on the teachings of Jesus Christ!
So if i'm going by your opinion the only difference between JWs and other religious groups is separating themselves as having a distinct form! That is just the only difference,apart from 'separating themselves' the JWs are also christians and all other christians are christians too!

achorladey:


Maximus69: If it is 'WITH the HEART' there is no way you can evaluate the quality or quantity of someone's faith that dwells 'in their hearts'!

Achorladey: You must have heard OLORUN ju EDA LO. One of the reason people say so is because WE humans see WHAT is on the OUTSIDE but as for the HEART no human can read that. Jeremiah warned in Jeremiah 17:9 that even the HEART we all have PERSONALLY sometimes DEAL with us TREACHEROUSLY.

Jeremiah 17:9 The HEART is more TREACHEROUS THAN ANYTHING ELSE and is DESPERATE.WHO can KNOW it? 10 I, JEHOVAH, am SEARCHING the HEART,EXAMINING the INNERMOST THOUGHTS,To GIVE to each ONE ACCORDING to HIS WAYS, According to the FRUITAGE of his WORKS.


so who am I to start setting standard on how heart is to measured. When I am equally STRUGGLING to SAFEGUARD my HEART.

Proverbs 4:23 Above all the things that you GUARD, SAFEGUARD your HEART,For out of it are the SOURCES of LIFE.

Maximus69: So if i'm going by your opinion the only difference between JWs and other religious groups is SEPARATING THEMSELVES as having a DISTINCT FORM! That is just the only difference,apart from 'separating themselves' the JWs are also CHRISTIANS and all other CHRISTIANS are christians too!

Regarding SEPARATING THEMSELVES you can see all of that in the QUOTE of JWs On the platform. That is not hard to spot.

DISTINCT FORM, all Christians denominations have their own DISTINCT form very much like that of the JWS and sometimes different. This is present in all christian denomination everyone of them have a unique identifying mark.

CHRISTIANS, in the course of discussing I don't think I have said they(the JWS) are NOT CHRISTIAN, I believe the JWS confess Christ as well and do appreciate all the things JESUS did to redeem mankind and their adherents likewise do whatever they can to follow CHRIST FOOTSTEPS just like other Christian denominations.

Maximus69:
So we can't determine who is or who is not a christian as long as they're professing beliefs in Jesus. JWs are a group that's just working tirelessly to keep their organization clean from those who aren't ready to comply with their teachings,and all other CHRISTIANS are doing the same. Just that the JWs are well known for their loyalty to their oversees! Thanks Mr achorladey for your time Sir, we've drawn a conclusion that all are christians just denominational differences. But the JWs disagree completely with the idea,on their own they are the ONLY christian group globally!
Do have a lovely weekend Sir, God bless you!

Hairyrapunzel:


Teachings that are gotten from encyclopedia and made by 8 old imperfect, unispired and fallible men who err in doctrinal matters and organizational direction. Lol

Jws told themselves that they are the only Christian group globally. Lol
Last last every thing dey inside your head. It's all imaginary at the end of the day.

Maximus69:
Thanks Sir,may the peace of God dwell with you!

TATIME:

Hmmmmmmmm Maximus, your thoughtfulness and spiritual growth is on an accelerated speed no doubt my brother! I wish to be present when you respond "YES" to the speaker during your baptismal talk.
I congratulate you in advance and using this medium to say "welcome into the gathering of Jesus' sheep".

Maximus69:
So we can't determine who is or who is not a christian as long as they're professing beliefs in Jesus. JWs are a group that's just working tirelessly to keep their organization clean from those who aren't ready to comply with their teachings,and all other CHRISTIANS are doing the same. Just that the JWs are well known for their loyalty to their oversees! Thanks Mr achorladey for your time Sir, we've drawn a conclusion that all are christians just denominational differences. But the JWs disagree completely with the idea,on their own they are the ONLY christian group globally!
Do have a lovely weekend Sir, God bless you!

Maximus69:
Hmmm
Then you're of the opinion that all those who confesses Jesus as lord 'with the mouth' are christians,that one is clearly understood.
But there are many confessing with their mouth yet their hearts are far removed from Christ. Matthew 7:21-23,15:8,9
@ Psalm 101:4 it is written 'a froward heart shall depart from me,i will not know a wicked person' according to this scripture God will not accept some people even if they keep confessing they belong to God.
With that at heart how do we solve this tough riddle?

brocab:
I wonder what your decision will be when someone special to you needs blood-You won't be able to save them...

Hairyrapunzel:


Is it for you to judge? Is it not God that truly knows the heart of man? Is it not God who decides that someone's heart belongs to Him?

I don't think you are God. Leave God to decide who he will or will not accept. Or is it you God put on earth to accept people for Him?

Maximus69:
That is very simple Sir.
You should have known my resolve on that by now. I've been studying persistently with devoted JWs for over 8 months now,and perhaps you might not know what that means. Well it simply means {if i finally agree with the teaching of their GB as God's representatives on earth today,whatever is their resolve on any matter automatically becomes my resolve}
So whenever i meet a devoted JW from any part of the earth,i need not doubt his resolve on what we both learned and agreed upon while studying the Bible with the publications from the Watchtower. I think that's what faith truly means!

brocab:
First of all I would like to say-we are pleased to hear-you have finely made your decision and you no longer hide your identity, truth is always revealed by the Lord-your hidden tactics is resolved..
{Leviticus 17:7-14} They must no longer offer any of their sacrifices to the goat idols to whom they prostitute themselves. This is to be a lasting ordinance for them and for the generations to come.’
“Say to them: ‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing among them who offers a burnt offering or sacrifice and does not bring it to the entrance to the tent of meeting to sacrifice it to the Lord must be cut off from the people of Israel.
“‘I will set my face against any Israelite or any foreigner residing among them who eats blood, and I will cut them off from the people.
For the life of a creature is in the blood, and I have given it to you to make atonement for yourselves on the altar; it is the blood that makes atonement for one’s life. {Giving would save a life}
Therefore I say to the Israelites, “None of you may eat blood, nor may any foreigner residing among you eat blood.”
“‘Any Israelite or any foreigner residing among you who hunts any animal or bird that may be eaten must drain out the blood and cover it with earth, because the life of every creature is its blood.
That is why I have said to the Israelites, “You must not eat the blood of any creature, {Animal} because the life of every creature is its blood; anyone who eats it must be cut off.”
I suppose when we have Holy communion together we are drinking into account the blood of Jesus..
As the Lord was instituting the Lord’s Supper, He said in {Matthew 26:28} “For this is my blood of the new testament, which is SHED FOR MANY FOR THE REMISSION OF SINS.”
The Apostle Paul, speaking to the Ephesian elders said in {Acts 20:28} “Take heed therefore unto yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost hath made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath PURCHASED WITH HIS OWN BLOOD.”
We read in {Romans 5:8-9} “But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.
Much more then, being now JUSTIFIED BY HIS BLOOD, we shall be saved from wrath through him.”

Maximus69:
Thanks Sir,that is it. The blood of the lamd{Jesus Christ} cleanse us from our sins! And Jesus himself made it clear that sickness and death resulted from SIN!
So no other person's blood can save us but only that of Jesus,i believe that is what the JWs are maintaining as Satan is trying to make many rely on the blood of their fellow man for TEMPORARY Salvation for now! So the GB taught all their members to restrain from using the blood of another person to save their own lives presently. In your last post before this one,you wrote 'i wonder what your decision will be if someone special to you need BLOOD,you won't be able to SAVE them'
Something struck my mind and i said within myself 'that's the point, trying to SAVE one soul with the BLOOD of another soul!' But we're all saying 'only through the BLOOD of Jesus,can anyone be SAVED' Please can we now forget about that temporarily as we're desperate to save someone SPECIAL to us?

TATIME:
Walahi Talahi, Maximus abeg tell me true true,you be anointed? Abeg between you and me please!
How excellent your response often sound in my mind after reading it.
Do you know i never thought of this till now!
So while everyone is singing "only through Jesus' blood that anyone can be SAVED" Satan wants to make us deny our faith in Jesus' blood regarding salvation! Hmmmmmmmm, that means if i desperately accept blood transfusion just to SAVE my soul temporarily, i've unknowingly deny the power in the blood of Jesus! Abeg bro this one done pass me,you're not just a baptised witness joh,i'm sure you're one of the anointed because na them fit break something down to this level! If truly you're not yet baptised,abeg do quick o,your brothers are waiting for you to join them in partaking of the emblem!

Maximus69:

Once a soldier is ever a soldier says an old British adage!
My journey as a combatant soldier has helped me to master every weapon used in training me. My Bible study conductor once told me that the Bible is now the SPIRITUAL sword that i need in the fight against Satan's mob, so i keep meditating on how to master the use of this spiritual sword at all times!
In my squad,i was one of the best 'a special hitman'. So now that i've accepted Christ and ready to make use of the weapon Jesus made available for use,i keep training myself on how to become the best just as i did formally during physical fight!

Maximus69:
So we can't determine who is or who is not a christian as long as they're professing beliefs in Jesus. JWs are a group that's just working tirelessly to keep their organization clean from those who aren't ready to comply with their teachings,and all other CHRISTIANS are doing the same. Just that the JWs are well known for their loyalty to their oversees! Thanks Mr achorladey for your time Sir, we've drawn a conclusion that all are christians just denominational differences. But the JWs disagree completely with the idea,on their own they are the ONLY christian group globally!
Do have a lovely weekend Sir, God bless you!

Crysthaniel:

ALL THANKS TO JEHOVAH!

achorladey:


Maximus69: ON THEIR OWN THEY ARE THE ONLY CHRISTIAN GROUP GLOBALLY.

Achorladey: How does this support the explanation of your organization concerning the WHEAT and the WEEDS?

Can you explain this using the bible and the publications of your organization

Maximus69:
So we can't determine who is or who is not a christian as long as they're professing beliefs in Jesus. JWs are a group that's just working tirelessly to keep their organization clean from those who aren't ready to comply with their teachings,and all other CHRISTIANS are doing the same. Just that the JWs are well known for their loyalty to their oversees! Thanks Mr achorladey for your time Sir, we've drawn a conclusion that all are christians just denominational differences. But the JWs disagree completely with the idea,on their own they are the ONLY christian group globally!
Do have a lovely weekend Sir, God bless you!

Maximus69:
Good afternoon Mr acholadey, how was the weekend Sir? I hope all is well,if so let's give glory to the most high!
I told you before now that i'm not interested in any strenuous arguments or debates. Jesus is for one and all,so if your Jesus accepts all forms of worship it's OK, i think the Jesus of JWs detests different forms of worship all attributing their activities to his name.
Just of recent a Pastor forged a resurrection only to tender an apology to the whole world that it was all stage managed,another declared that he had tea with God in his living room. So if Jehovah's witnesses separated themselves from all of these,i think there is no need to start arguing why they did so,you can choose to agree or disagree with any form of doctrine Sir. I don't think anyone is been forced to accept any doctrine, just pick your choice. After a thorough examination of all the religious group around me,i've decided to become one of Jehovah's Witnesses, and as you've RIGHTLY said earlier 'they are also christians' so i chose their group!