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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Dartilo(m): 5:27am On Mar 14, 2019
Opiletool:
Enough of the lies in guise of history that you bini internet urchins are peddling about.

Aren't you guys so ashamed that those tribes you pathetically claim to rule over (igbo/yoruba) are more relevant than you lots in the polity of this nation?

You guys are so insignificant in the country today, even in terms of language. Most of you idiots answer yoruba names, speak yoruba language, run to survive in yoruba land, worship yoruba deities(who were once living entities in yoruba lands), yet you're constantly trying to foist a fake historical superiority on them. So ridiculous.



I see you're pained by the truth, the last time i check yoruba actually means slave by the hausa fulanis...
Oyo empire never existed in real life...
Little were know about the yoruba people, the yoruba people were slave items for slavery...
If not for anything i will be proud at least no benin man was sold into slavery that is a good achievement

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Opiletool(m): 8:15am On Mar 14, 2019
Dartilo:




I see you're pained by the truth, the last time i check yoruba actually means slave by the hausa fulanis...
Oyo empire never existed in real life...
Little were know about the yoruba people, the yoruba people were slave items for slavery...
If not for anything i will be proud at least no benin man was sold into slavery that is a good achievement

The same yoruba people more relevant than you today?
Shouldn't you be ashamed that those slaves are better than you fools today?
Their language and culture are being studied all over the world. They exist not only in Africa but expand to the carribbean. Not only one of the largest but the most relevant tribe in tho whole of Africa.

If I were you, I will stop talking about the past, I rather focus on how to gain relevance now and in the future. How to catch up with the tribe whose gods you worship, language you speak, and names you bear today.

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by goalernestman: 10:52am On Mar 14, 2019
Dartilo:




I see you're pained by the truth, the last time i check yoruba actually means slave by the hausa fulanis...
Oyo empire never existed in real life...
Little were know about the yoruba people, the yoruba people were slave items for slavery...
If not for anything i will be proud at least no benin man was sold into slavery that is a good achievement

I think saying Yoruba was a slave is not ok and also we all knows Yoruba and igbo are majority today. but this is not a reason to fake a history to better the majority now. In history Igala was more great than igbos but because igbo is the majority now they like write lies how they were more great. I found this not fair
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Oshi5403(m): 12:53pm On Mar 14, 2019
goalernestman:


He is saying the truth Benin history is dated by Benin and European as I also said above

Noted
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Oshi5403(m): 1:05pm On Mar 14, 2019
goalernestman:


Benin empire happend but Oyo didn't so they are trying to put Oyo in any where Benin is to more stable the empire that never happened like slaves that was recorded taken from Benin or bight of Benin by the European will be change to Oyo.

Below is a map of European a man who lives in England his name is there and died in 17 century. U can see noting like Oyo there

Noted
But Thats From Your Own Point Of View
Thanks
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Oshi5403(m): 1:08pm On Mar 14, 2019
Weedfree:



Well if u check the history of zulu empire with shakazulu , Akum empire now called Ethiopian empire and lunda and luba kingdom do have a connection to each other. Both when I look at West Africa kingdoms oyo empire would say the conquered all of southern Nigeria but they didn't conquer ijesha, Benin empire and ijebu. And it goes on like that for other kingdoms in west Africa.

Oyo Empire Neva Claimed That It Conquered The Whole Of Southern Nigeria,not Even The Whole Of Yoruba Nation.
Note That
Thanks.
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Oshi5403(m): 1:11pm On Mar 14, 2019
no benin man was sold into slavery that is a good achievement [/quote]
I Have To Make Extensive Research On This
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Oshi5403(m): 1:49pm On Mar 14, 2019
If I were you, I will stop talking about the past, I rather focus on how to gain relevance now and in the future. How to catch up with the tribe whose gods you worship, language you speak, and names you bear today. [/quote]

This Is An Incontrovertible Fact.4get The Past.Focus On Now And The Future.

But We Are Trying To Get The Trueth About Our Past History.
Thanks.

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Oshi5403(m): 1:52pm On Mar 14, 2019
goalernestman:


I think saying Yoruba was a slave is not ok and also we all knows Yoruba and igbo are majority today. but this is not a reason to fake a history to better the majority now. In history Igala was more great than igbos but because igbo is the majority now they like write lies how they were more great. I found this not fair

History Is Great
While African History Is Complicated.

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by gregyboy(m): 2:49pm On Mar 14, 2019
Opiletool:


The same yoruba people more relevant than you today?
Shouldn't you be ashamed that those slaves are better than you fools today?
Their language and culture are being studied all over the world. They exist not only in Africa but expand to the carribbean. Not only one of the largest but the most relevant tribe in tho whole of Africa.

If I were you, I will stop talking about the past, I rather focus on how to gain relevance now and in the future. How to catch up with the tribe whose gods you worship, language you speak, and names you bear today.


We don't remind ourselves with the past but tribalism do .tribalism from the yoruba the op who created this thread is not a benin man to even want to start claiming glory.....no matter how hard a tribe try to push itself to greatness if its not due for greatness he will never be great...yorubas should be ashsmed of themselves you sold yourselves out so cheaply sold your kingdoms out so cheaply and made the black skin man feel humiliated in the eyes of the world badagary tourist centers should be destroyed it is not a worthy history to keep ....now you come here as a yoruba boy to boost of a slave language spoken in the carribean .the carribean that a blackman has never ruled you should be ashamed yorubas language is sopken in the carribean .you should also be ashsmed your ancestors sold themselves out,you should be ashamed that youre from a yoruba tribe .
And for the record no benin man bears yoruba names if other edo does go and check thier history
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by gregyboy(m): 2:50pm On Mar 14, 2019
Oshi5403:


History Is Great
While African History Is Complicated.

The world history is complicated ....because of people who tries to alter it
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Oshi5403(m): 3:14pm On Mar 14, 2019
gregyboy:


The world history is complicated ....because of people who tries to alter it

But Africans Sits At The Front Roll Of Possessors Of Complicated History.
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by davidnazee: 3:51pm On Mar 14, 2019
Opiletool:


The same yoruba people more relevant than you today?
Shouldn't you be ashamed that those slaves are better than you fools today?
Their language and culture are being studied all over the world. They exist not only in Africa but expand to the carribbean. Not only one of the largest but the most relevant tribe in tho whole of Africa.

If I were you, I will stop talking about the past, I rather focus on how to gain relevance now and in the future. How to catch up with the tribe whose gods you worship, language you speak, and names you bear today.

You are claiming relevance and significance in a failed society like Nigeria lol. How has this relevance/significance helped Yoruba people?
You still serve the Hausa/Fulani Northerners, your states are among the most poor and underdeveloped.. Edo State is better than Yoruba states except Lagos (Lagos is not Yoruba anyways)..
You use your majority numbers to weigh ur relevance, una dey learn.

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by gregyboy(m): 4:49pm On Mar 14, 2019
Oshi5403:


But Africans Sits At The Front Roll Of Possessors Of Complicated History.


Yea....not because of documentation but as a result of selfish intreast in the face of documentation africans will depose it to favour themselves oyo empire i believe was actually wasnt an empire it was more of large dependent clan of villages coming together as a result of shared culture the most wealthy clan got the upper hand.it was a big clan like an empire but not one they brought the empire into life through recent writeup

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Weedfree: 6:21pm On Mar 14, 2019
Oshi5403:


Oyo Empire Neva Claimed That It Conquered The Whole Of Southern Nigeria,not Even The Whole Of Yoruba Nation.
Note That
Thanks.

u mean the same Oyo empire that said conquered Ogun, ekiti, Lagos and ondo state just so u know.
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Dartilo(m): 6:25pm On Mar 14, 2019
Opiletool:


The same yoruba people more relevant than you today?
Shouldn't you be ashamed that those slaves are better than you fools today?
Their language and culture are being studied all over the world. They exist not only in Africa but expand to the carribbean. Not only one of the largest but the most relevant tribe in tho whole of Africa.

If I were you, I will stop talking about the past, I rather focus on how to gain relevance now and in the future. How to catch up with the tribe whose gods you worship, language you speak, and names you bear today.



Firstly being a slave is what I should be ashamed ashamed of...
Go to America, britain, france and Germany, Benin empire and it's history is what they study concerning Nigeria...
Yorubas expanded to the carribbean due to slavery...
Language we speak:this was awolowo agenda for the then western region but he failed...
The Yorubas call the benin Ado better ask them why the name Ado ekiti

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Dartilo(m): 6:33pm On Mar 14, 2019
Oshi5403:
no benin man was sold into slavery that is a good achievement

I Have To Make Extensive Research On This



Tribal mark system started in benin to prevent anyone to be sold into slavery, around the 14th century a dutch merchant attempted to shoot the oba because the oba was hiding it's slave that escape, rumour had it that the oba invaded the merchant and free the slave because the merchant was accused of kidnapping an indigene and he was frustrated...
Note this indigene was a commoner but the oba intervene because the benins saw themselves as superior being not to talk of been sold out

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Opiletool(m): 6:40pm On Mar 14, 2019
davidnazee:


You are claiming relevance and significance in a failed society like Nigeria lol. How has this relevance/significance helped Yoruba people?
You still serve the Hausa/Fulani Northerners, your states are among the most poor and underdeveloped.. Edo State is better than Yoruba states except Lagos (Lagos is not Yoruba anyways)..
You use your majority numbers to weigh ur relevance, una dey learn.

Hahaha. Edo better than Yoruba states. Jokers everywhere.

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Opiletool(m): 6:46pm On Mar 14, 2019
Dartilo:




Firstly being a slave is what I should be ashamed ashamed of...
Go to America, britain, france and Germany, Benin empire and it's history is what they study concerning Nigeria...
Yorubas expanded to the carribbean due to slavery...
Language we speak:this was awolowo agenda for the then western region but he failed...
The Yorubas call the benin Ado better ask them why the name Ado ekiti

Is Ado Ekiti called a Benin town today? So what happened? Why did those towns you claim to have conquered not pitching tents with benin?
Why are they not answering benin names?
Why are they not speaking benin language?
Why did they all choose to claim other tribes?
Is it that those ethnic groups are more superior (which is the reality anyways)
Is that how horrible and despicable you guys are? I shouldn't even have asked that last question considering how ridiculous you lots are.

Bottom line is, where did you lost it as a world power (lol)?

Lastly, those you called slaves now dominating you lots and pushing you to the brink of irrelevance is what you should be ashamed of. Make sure your kids don't hear such stories from you o, because they may end up asking you those questions, therefore making it difficult for you to explain how your glory became dust all of a sudden. Cretins.

And let me school you like my brothers have been doing over the years, Ado (re mi) is different from benin's Ado (do mi). Ado Ekiti is a short form of Aduro(re mi mi), which means 'we stopped. And Agbado (do mi mi), another Ekiti town, is a short form of Agbaduro(do mi mi mi) which means' where elders stopped'. Go and learn tone before concocting lies.
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Opiletool(m): 6:58pm On Mar 14, 2019
davidnazee:


You are claiming relevance and significance in a failed society like Nigeria lol. How has this relevance/significance helped Yoruba people?
You still serve the Hausa/Fulani Northerners, your states are among the most poor and underdeveloped.. Edo State is better than Yoruba states except Lagos (Lagos is not Yoruba anyways)..
You use your majority numbers to weigh ur relevance, una dey learn.

If you don't know how it has helped Yoruba, then you must be totally dumb. Did you really asked that? Lol

How has your fake history helped your existence today?
We serve Hausa/Fulani? Well, guess we all do, but just so know, you are at the bottom of the servants chain. Lol.

The truth is, we gave you benin guys a lot to complete your existence as human entities. Language, gods, names, and so on. If you want to be serious with your superiority claim, tell your tribes men to drop their yoruba names,and stop worshiping yoruba gods.
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Dartilo(m): 6:59pm On Mar 14, 2019
Opiletool:


Is Ado Ekiti called a Benin town today? So what happened? Why did those towns you conquered not pitching tents with benin?
Why are they not answering benin names?
Why are they not speaking benin language?
Why did they all choose to claim other tribes?
Is it that those ethnic groups are more superior (which is the reality anyways)
Is that how horrible and despicable you guys are? I shouldn't even have asked that last question considering how ridiculous you lots are.

Bottom line is, where did you lost it as a world power (lol)?





They were originally ekiti people but wherever the benin reside in was seen as a important place, ekiti, ondo, lagos were part of benin empire, you tell me were was the mighty oyo, y didn't him liberate is brothers from benin.... D world need to know the truth, yoruba came together as a combination of different ethnic group, they all claim to migrate from ife....
If u r using that logic as a claim then the benin r also majority because the urhobos, isoko, ikas, agbors, esan, estakors,issele ukwu, royal house of itskekiri, onitsha, ogaga of ekiti, ikwere, degema, the eyeadema family of togo, ekpeye, afemai, part of lagos also migrated from benin


. Let the yoruba note this population is not a claim to superiority or let them ask their ancestors wat made them fall prey in the hands of the benin people

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Opiletool(m): 7:11pm On Mar 14, 2019
Dartilo:






They were originally ekiti people but wherever the benin reside in was seen as a important place, ekiti, ondo, lagos were part of benin empire, you tell me were was the mighty oyo, y didn't him liberate is brothers from benin.... D world need to know the truth, yoruba came together as a combination of different ethnic group, they all claim to migrate from ife....
If u r using that logic as a claim then the benin r also majority because the urhobos, isoko, ikas, agbors, esan, estakors,issele ukwu, royal house of itskekiri, onitsha, ogaga of ekiti, ikwere, degema, the eyeadema family of togo, ekpeye, afemai, part of lagos also migrated from benin


. Let the yoruba note this population is not a claim to superiority or let them ask their ancestors wat made them fall prey in the hands of the benin people

Hahaha. I can see how they came from benin, don't they speak the same language? Oh I forgot, the language has mutually intelligible. Last time I checked, itshekiri is classified as edoid, same with onitcha language. Hahaha.

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Dartilo(m): 7:44pm On Mar 14, 2019
Opiletool:


Hahaha. I can see how they came from benin, don't they speak the same language? Oh I forgot, the language has mutually intelligible. Last time I checked, itshekiri is classified as edoid, same with onitcha language. Hahaha.



Can an ife man understand wben an ijebu or awori man is talking

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Opiletool(m): 7:48pm On Mar 14, 2019
Dartilo:




Can an ife man understand wben an ijebu or awori man is talking

Do you mean the same awori that migrated from ife? Lol. You guys are just pathetic. Awori and Ijebu have been neighbours in Lagos for years. They both have the largest landmass in Lagos, so why won't they understand each other's language? Lol. I'm tired of schooling you son. Go find your mate.

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by gregyboy(m): 12:16am On Mar 15, 2019
Opiletool:


Do you mean the same awori that migrated from ife? Lol. You guys are just pathetic. Awori and Ijebu have been neighbours in Lagos for years. They both have the largest landmass in Lagos, so why won't they understand each other's language? Lol. I'm tired of schooling you son. Go find your mate.

You speak more of rubbish than you speak sense you are dwelling on population to justify your claims you forget the Almighty rome it original indigenes are just in one city not even a state they didnt even spread thier language just as the benin found it royal not to you claim we borrow your gods to worship please tell me who told that lie youre believing where you even born to know who borrowed from whom your ancestor's never documented anything you just come and spill trash no matter how populated the yorubas are if its going to be overun by a village it will still be very possible
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by davidnazee: 2:26am On Mar 15, 2019
Oshi5403:


Oyo Empire Neva Claimed That It Conquered The Whole Of Southern Nigeria,not Even The Whole Of Yoruba Nation.
Note That
Thanks.

Please can you give me a detailed account of Oyo Empire’s military campaign/war. If Oyo Empire is real then there should be accounts or stories of wars it fought.. give a detailed account like how the war started, how it unfolded how it was won or lost.. I want full story not just headline. All great empires that existed have stories of wars and military campaigns and expansions they carried out. Oyo should not be different.

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Opiletool(m): 8:44am On Mar 15, 2019
gregyboy:


You speak more of rubbish than you speak sense you are dwelling on population to justify your claims you forget the Almighty rome it original indigenes are just in one city not even a state they didnt even spread thier language just as the benin found it royal not to you claim we borrow your gods to worship please tell me who told that lie youre believing where you even born to know who borrowed from whom your ancestor's never documented anything you just come and spill trash no matter how populated the yorubas are if its going to be overun by a village it will still be very possible

Punctuate your drivel maybe it will make any sense. Schlep.
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Oshi5403(m): 11:16am On Mar 15, 2019
davidnazee:


Please can you give me a detailed account of Oyo Empire’s military campaign/war. If Oyo Empire is real then there should be accounts or stories of wars it fought.. give a detailed account like how the war started, how it unfolded how it was won or lost.. I want full story not just headline. All great empires that existed have stories of wars and military campaigns and expansions they carried out. Oyo should not be different.

I Have No Time For That
But The Fact Remains That Benin Empire,ile Ife Kingdom And Oyo Empire Existed.
Note That
Thanks.
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by goalernestman: 12:13pm On Mar 15, 2019
Oshi5403:


I Have No Time For That
But The Fact Remains That Benin Empire,ile Ife Kingdom And Oyo Empire Existed.
Note That
Thanks.

Oyo empire is faked as super man
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by goalernestman: 12:14pm On Mar 15, 2019
Oshi5403:


I Have No Time For That
But The Fact Remains That Benin Empire,ile Ife Kingdom And Oyo Empire Existed.
Note That
Thanks.

Bring the Oyo empire in the Africa map let we all see
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by davidnazee: 3:12pm On Mar 15, 2019
Oshi5403:


I Have No Time For That
But The Fact Remains That Benin Empire,ile Ife Kingdom And Oyo Empire Existed.
Note That
Thanks.

A major characteristic of an empire is its expansion and campaigns to foreign lands and its conquests and sovereignty over the people. For example Benin empire spread over Yoruba to the west, Igbos to the east and also to the north.
Oyo never achieved any of these, Oyo is only known for ruling over its fellow Yoruba brothers. It never spread beyond Yoruba.

There is only 2 empires in the world that ever had GREAT added to its name; Great Britain and Great Benin.

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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Oshi5403(m): 3:20pm On Mar 16, 2019
davidnazee:


A major characteristic of an empire is its expansion and campaigns to foreign lands and its conquests and sovereignty over the people. For example Benin empire spread over Yoruba to the west, Igbos to the east and also to the north.
Oyo never achieved any of these, Oyo is only known for ruling over its fellow Yoruba brothers. It never spread beyond Yoruba.

There is only 2 empires in the world that ever had GREAT added to its name; Great Britain and Great Benin.

But Let Me Quickly Ask U This Question,what Is The Role Of Language In Confirming The Existence Of An Empire Or Emirate?.

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