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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by goalernestman: 3:26pm On Mar 23, 2019 |
Weedfree: So they never meet Oyo so the slaves Yoruba's are claiming in America continent where are they actually from? The most history fakers, liars history piracy in the world are Yorubas bro research well you will know. |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Weedfree: 4:36pm On Mar 23, 2019 |
goalernestman: I never said they never met Oyo I meant they were never close to Oyo the way they were close to Benin and Yoruba descent in America are of slave ancestry some were taking from Oyo after its fall. |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by goalernestman: 12:15am On Mar 24, 2019 |
Weedfree: You said they never traded with Oyo before now you are saying they traded. Bro you are confused. So please tell me the century they traded with Oyo and who are the country that traded with Oyo on slaves is it Portugal or the British or France I want to know and also tell me their first visit to Oyo the date not the story let see who are the lairs now. Date source links reference are what always missing in Yoruba story just like animals talking story. You see the ones that actually happens is the Benin story it well dated by Benin and the kingdom they come in contact to. Only Yoruba story that is well dated is Oromiyan because it significant is agree by both parties Benin and Yoruba. But on Oyo empire all history kingdom Yoruba try to link it to says it fake. So you want us to believe you buy a car when no other person except you saw the car lol, who do you think we are kids? Comon we are in 20 century we are not going to believe animals can talk story. |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Weedfree: 1:28pm On Mar 24, 2019 |
goalernestman: Guess goalernestman did u forget when I said they started trading slaves with the Europeans in the 17th century. it seems like u are the one who is confused. Well if u won't to know the century and kingdoms I will tell u the history. Towards the end of the 18th century, the Oyo army was neglected as there was less need to conquer. Instead, Oyo directed more effort towards trading and acted as a middlemen for both the Trans-Saharan and Trans-Atlantic slave trade. Europeans bringing salt arrived in Oyo during the reign of king obalokun. Thanks to its dominant in the coast Oyo merchants were able to trade with Europeans at Porto Novo. Here the Oyo empire's captives and criminals were sold to Dutch and Portuguese buyers. So there u have it the evidence that were recorded. 3 Likes |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by gregyboy(m): 4:41pm On Mar 24, 2019 |
goalernestman: Southern nigeria it doesn't mean south south Nigeria it means all you just said 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by goalernestman: 7:44pm On Mar 28, 2019 |
Weedfree: Bla bla you read from a Yoruba site, even in Wikipedia Yoruba author quoted they fight with Benin empire but was claim as fake in Benin history. So what new in yourba lies. European meet Oyo before the 18th century this is a big fact lie, the Obaolukun was said to be the first king to trade sault not slave. European only started knowing what is Yoruba and igbo from 18 century. And obaolokun was before 18 century. Nigeria Benin trade with the Europeans of slaves they captured not yourba and after Benin Igala continue the trade this enable them to shift the slave trade from bight of benin to bight of bony or biafra. Igal traded with Europen capturing igbo as slave. Igala and Benin is the only empire in southern Nigeria Ida or Igala Benin or bight of Benin. Read a history from no trib just go to European account if oyo claim they sold slaves to Europe surly European will record this not only Yoruba or Oyo. When you bring a quote from a European who lives then I will take Oyo seriously. |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Weedfree: 10:28pm On Mar 28, 2019 |
goalernestman: So from ur understanding I said they met oyo empire in the 18th century, I said they started treading with oyo empire more frequently than before. Time for another history lesson. The Atlantic slave trade leaked in the last two decades of the 18th century, during and following the Kongo civil war. Wars among tiny states along the Niger River's igbo inhabited region and the accompanying banditry also spiked in this period. Another reason for surplus supply of enslaved people was major warfare conducted by expanding states, such as the kingdom of Dahomey, the Oyo empire, and the Asante Empire. However, some African groups proved particularly adept and brutal at the practice of enslaving, such as Oyo, Benin, igala, kaabu, Asanteman, Dahomey, the Aro confederacy and the imbangala war bands. In the eighteenth century, two policies Oyo and the Sri confederacy were responsible for most of the slaves exported from Nigeria. The Aro confederacy continued to export slaves in the nineteenth century were a product of the Yoruba civil ears that followed the collapse of Oyo in the 1820s. The expansion of Oyo after the middle of sixteenth century was closely associated with the growth of slave exports across the Atlantic. Oyo's cavalry pushed southward along a natural break in the forests (known as the Benin Gap, i.e., the opening in the forest where the savanna stretched to the Bight of Benin), and thereby gained access to the coastal poets. Oyo experience a series of power struggle and constitutional crises in the eighteenth century that directly related to its success as a major slave exporter. The other major slave exporting state was a loose confederation under the leadership of the Aro, an Igbo clan of mixed igbo and Ibibio origins, whose home was in the escarpment between the central igbo districts and the Cross River. Beginning in the late seventeenth century, the Sri built a complex network of alliances and treaties with many of the igbo clans. Alliances with certain igbo clans who acted as mercenaries for the Aro guaranteed their safety. The Sri had treaties with the coastal poets from which slaves were exported, especially Calabar, Bonny, and Elem Kalabari. The people of Calabar were Efik, a subsection of Ibibio, while Jonny and Elem Kalabari were ijaw towns. The ijaw, who occupied the tidal area in proximity to the Igbo, has wrested a frugal living from the sale of dried fish and sea salt to the inland communities for centuries before the rise of the slave trade. By 1800 too governed much of southeastern Nigeria and neighbouring parts of modern Republic of Benin, while the Sri had consolidated southeastern Nigeria into a confederation that dominated that region. The oyo and Aro confederations were major trading partners of the slave traders from Europe and North America. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by goalernestman: 4:03am On Mar 29, 2019 |
Weedfree: Another bla bla you copy from the current 2 majors in South Nigeria now. Igbo sold slaves in calaba another big fact lie, calaba was under the Benin empire then they were ones of the states in Benin so how will igbo sell slave a place not their regions or in a Benin nation or map |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by goalernestman: 4:06am On Mar 29, 2019 |
goalernestman: Bring a eurpen source or quote for me in the 18th century to believe you, if you want Benin European source I can give it to you. Igbo and Yoruba should stop stealing Benin and Ida or Igala history. |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by goalernestman: 4:17am On Mar 29, 2019 |
[quote author=goalernestman post=77079023] Bring a eurpen source or quote for me in the 18th century to believe you, if you want Benin European source I can give it to you. Igbo and Yoruba should stop stealing Benin and Ida or Igala history Igbo never sold any slave fact. go read history more my friend, any igbo man that was sold to European was captured by Benin and Igala then the mighty empire that was in that region the and sold them to the European. Don't let this igbo and Yoruba deceive you. No igbo king or chife come in contact with European until the end of slaves trade in ending of 18th century so who now sell the slaves. European knows what is igbo after the fall of Benin empire fact in 18th century. |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by goalernestman: 4:21am On Mar 29, 2019 |
Weedfree: Who was the Oyo king that receive the first European visit. Benin own is oba eware tell me Oyo own and the main country in Europe and also the captain of the European squad that came to Oyo. Is that too hard to bring |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Weedfree: 3:23pm On Mar 29, 2019 |
goalernestman: Actually I got that account from the history of Atlantic slave trade. So Benin empire conquered calabar or u meant Kalabari kingdom founded by kalabari people of ijaw. when did Benin empire conquer it. |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Weedfree: 3:29pm On Mar 29, 2019 |
goalernestman: I know Portuguese arrived in Benin empire in the 1400s but have u read clapperton account of Oyo empire. Igala conquered the upper part of igboland not the coastal areas. kalabari kingdom purchased slaves from igboland it is recorded. Benin empire didn't participate in slave trade. Ijaw to were also major slave traders. |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Weedfree: 3:40pm On Mar 29, 2019 |
[quote author=goalernestman post=77079088][/quote] The first contact between igboland and Europe came incontact in the mid-fifteenth century with that arrival of the Portuguese. |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Weedfree: 3:51pm On Mar 29, 2019 |
goalernestman: Really asking me that question when I wrote in my previous post it was obalokun. obalokun was the first Alafin to come in contact with the Europeans. |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by goalernestman: 4:23pm On Mar 30, 2019 |
Weedfree: Benin never conquered calaba but it was under the Benin empire |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by goalernestman: 4:26pm On Mar 30, 2019 |
[quote author=Weedfree post=77094491] Really asking me that question when I wrote in my previous post it was obalokun. obalokun was the first Alafin to come in contact with the Europeans.[/quot Bro this is a big fact lie oba olukun rain that no body knows not even Yoruba know the man how will even European now know him. His rain time is not mention and no European man mention his name. Even Wikipedia has no fact about him no body knows when his rain only Yoruba people like writing what you think about him. |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by dreyton(m): 5:56pm On Mar 30, 2019 |
davidnazee:tell them they don't know |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by dreyton(m): 5:59pm On Mar 30, 2019 |
Dartilo:interesting, tell them something for me abeg |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by dreyton(m): 6:00pm On Mar 30, 2019 |
Opiletool:very true no doubt at all, do your research bro |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by dreyton(m): 6:06pm On Mar 30, 2019 |
davidnazee:no be who they intelligent they write down histories, intelligence far from them |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Weedfree: 6:07pm On Mar 30, 2019 |
goalernestman: If so when was it recorded Benin empire subjected calabar and where in calabar history was it mentioned. 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by dreyton(m): 6:08pm On Mar 30, 2019 |
goalernestman:there's nothing like Oyo empire, it has always been a Benin empire who are known all over the world |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by dreyton(m): 6:09pm On Mar 30, 2019 |
davidnazee:one big stout for you my brother |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by Weedfree: 6:09pm On Mar 30, 2019 |
[quote author=goalernestman post=77122743][/quote] U mean the same dude that traded salt and slaves with the Europeans that u said nobody knew |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by dreyton(m): 6:11pm On Mar 30, 2019 |
Oshi5403:never from the benin empire laye |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by dreyton(m): 6:14pm On Mar 30, 2019 |
gregyboy:even till today it's only shouting you'll hear buy no actions, and before you hear a Benin shout shout to that extend then many dead souls are already gone |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by rhektor(m): 2:50am On Mar 31, 2019 |
gregyboy: Ogiso bloodline that pays rent to Ogiso how does that sound to you? Do you even think before writing this? I remember that you and davidnazee were doing this same thing on the ọba of Benin visit ooni of Ìfẹ́ thread but you were trashed by olu317 BabaRamota1980, Obalufon etc you ran away when the heat was much more than you can take 2 Likes |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by rhektor(m): 2:56am On Mar 31, 2019 |
davidnazee: Do you try to know the meaning of words before using them? How would you need to colonize the land /city that you found? 1 Like |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by gregyboy(m): 7:44am On Mar 31, 2019 |
rhektor: Another useless mention from the Yoruba's ....baseless point given not even pertaining to the topic based on no evidence. a typical Yoruba arguer...nothing much expected from a million tribe, that over time couldnt document thier history .and just a group of people who are not beyond thousand could document thier history |
Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by goalernestman: 12:01pm On Mar 31, 2019 |
Weedfree: Bro what are you saying even Wikipedia is mocking Oyo. Wikipedia said according to Oyo and Yoruba Obaolokun came in contact with European, but not in European history.
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Re: Who Is Historically Superior Among Alaafin Of Oyo,ooni Of Ife And Oba Of Benin? by gregyboy(m): 12:09pm On Mar 31, 2019 |
Oyo na scam see a yoruba many like sand come they follow bini people when just they one city for state they drag history.come they lie join untop our head.... They said our obas go to bury thier heads at ife but The rest yoruba monarchs dont ....and i asked y 1 Like |
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