Maximus69:
PEACE Mr Hairyrapunzel,may you have TRUE peace Sir!

ha ha, you say that lying false jw max because you have no true reply for hairy

Janosky:


The eye witness apostle Peter
confirmed that Jehovah raised his servant Jesus from the dead.
Acts3:12-15.
* John w lying Pharisee has a unique talent for lying.

Peter also confirmed that "Jesus was put to death in the physical realm but made alive in the spiritual realm" 1Peter3:18.
The record of apostle proves that Jesus appeared to his followers in
materialized body.

*** Mary Magdalene saw Jesus wounds when he died(John 19:25) ,3 days later after he resurrected, she saw him (according to John w Pharisee Jesus "nail and side wounds where visible" )to Mary Magdalene yet she could not recognize Jesus voice or his face until Jesus called her name (John 20:11-16).
Why ?
Mr Liar ,Jesus appeared to Mary with out any wound on him.
Different materialized body.
But to Thomas et al,he appeared to them in a materialized body with wounds

I want to even ask my brother was it only on the hand Jesus was injured? I suppose other parts of his body were also injured even if it heal within that short period of time won't there be scars?
If it was the old body won't their be injuries on other parts of the body like the remember crown with torns that injured the head or at least the scars will be there.
For Thomas to even ask for evidence shows it wasn't the old body as the old body would bear evidence that it was once mutilated

Maximus69:
I don't chat with minors like you!

Lolzz, u are just getting to know him. He keeps repeating same trash on every thread

Maximus69:
I don't chat with minors like you!

Lolzz, u are just getting to know him. He keeps repeating same trash on every thread.

ableguy:

I want to even ask my brother was it only on the hand Jesus was injured? I suppose other parts of his body were also injured even if it heal within that short period of time won't there be scars?
If it was the old body won't their be injuries on other parts of the body like the remember crown with torns that injured the head or at least the scars will be there.
For Thomas to even ask for evidence shows it wasn't the old body as the old body would bear evidence that it was once mutilated

ha ha, oh duh, lying false jw ableguy, the old body did bear evidence that it was mutilated:

Luk 24:39  Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

Joh 20:27  Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

Jesus even said a Spirit doesn't have flesh and bones as you see i have, nonbelieving false jw

ableguy:

Lolzz, u are just getting to know him. He keeps repeating same trash on every thread.

lying false jw ableguy
quote the trash i keep repeating and i will show you where you are lying
and you false jw's of course cannot stop lying:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

ableguy:

Lolzz, u are just getting to know him. He keeps repeating same trash on every thread

ableguy:

Lolzz, u are just getting to know him. He keeps repeating same trash on every thread.

lying false jw ableguy

you are talking about repeating trash

see what your daddy has done to you

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

asalimpo:

you are dummy of the highest order? Mr indirection. Mayb they do. Mayb they go to toilet. It's not stated. But the question remains do spirits have corresponding body parts as humans? Answer categorically with scriptures? [b] For sex organs Jesus said in the resurrection man will b like the angels neither marrying nor giving in marraige so that may answer that?

I already highlight what Jesus said by pointing out that angels are SEXLESS . but when they manifest as Males, they have Male organs . If they manifest and have Male organs BUT are actually sexless , Does that not tell you what is manifested is totally Different from who they are ?

Sense

But it's irrelevant. [b]
DO SPIRITS HAVE CORRESPONDING BODY PARTS TO HUMANS?
[/b]

Do they have Sex organs as Spirits ?

ableguy:

I want to even ask my brother was it only on the hand Jesus was injured? I suppose other parts of his body were also injured even if it heal within that short period of time won't there be scars?
If it was the old body won't their be injuries on other parts of the body like the remember crown with torns that injured the head or at least the scars will be there.
For Thomas to even ask for evidence shows it wasn't the old body as the old body would bear evidence that it was once mutilated

Good point. But
They have no reasoning faculty .

Barristter07:


I already highlight what Jesus said by pointing out that angels are SEXLESS . but when they manifest as Males, they have Male organs . If they manifest and have Male organs BUT are actually sexless , Does that not tell you what is manifested is totally Different from who they are ?

Sense



Do they have Sex organs as Spirits ?

You will just be asking questions that answers are not seen in the Bible to justify your assumptions.

Does that not tell you what is manifested is totally Different from who they are ?


This your statement you want to use it to justify your assumption that Jesus resurrected as a spirit and used another person's body to appear to his disciples without a bible verse to support your assumption.

Since you know if angels have sex organs as spirits you can tell us and direct us to the Bible verse.

After you finished saying spirits do not have body parts and people proved you wrong with bible verses you went ahead to say jesus resurrected as spirit in another person's body we still proved you wrong. You have now gone to sex organs.


Meanwhile you are yet to answer the questions they have been asking you. Questions With answers in the Bible for that matter. Because these biblical answers are contrary to your assumptions you consistently dodged answering them.

Then you bring up questions based on your assumptions with no answers in the Bible to avoid answering those biblical questions. Lol

Barristter07:

Good point. But
They have no reasoning faculty .

But bible was silent on the torn marks. Your fellow jw colleague used 'If' to begin his statement a conditional statement.

It shows what he just said never happened and was never mentioned in the Bible. He just assumed. So at the end of the day he is not even sure of the statement.

You guys are the ones that have no reasoning faculty.

Show us the bible passage that said that there where torn marks on the head or there were no torn marks?

You wouldn't see one verse talking about torn marks on jesus head after resurrection. You guys desperately want to rewrite the Bible but it is impossible.


So you expect us to assume what's not in the Bible and make it our beliefs right?

You that have reasoning faculty be reasoning what's not in the Bible that's why you can't provide any bible verse to justify your reasoning faculty.

Barristter07:


I already highlight what Jesus said by pointing out that angels are SEXLESS . but when they manifest as Males, they have Male organs . If they manifest and have Male organs BUT are actually sexless , Does that not tell you what is manifested is totally Different from who they are ?

Sense



Do they have Sex organs as Spirits ?

He asked a question answer. Be avoiding answering questions that have answers in the Bible. Now you are preoccupied with sex organs as your poop/toilet preoccupation has failed.

Lol

asalimpo:


So the authors of the kjv committed a falsification?
All other versions not even based on the textus receptus still render that verse rightly as GOD, so u r saying that there was a collusion btwn the scribes of two manuscripts? You dont know know what you are talkng about. It is impossible for the scripts of the textus receptus to b universally falsified. Impossible. So if u see it in the kjv (only existing ,or most popular, textus receptus derived version) take it as truth.

The claim that the textus receptus is corrupt is false.
The only way jw can impugn God's word is to appeal to extra biblical references. References which they cant even prove. Like that the trinity was a concept inserted into christian theology by pagan customs! That Jesus wasnt nailed on cross,inspite of verses proving otherwise.

Brain scrubbed Pharisee doing what he knows best - LYING.
* Let me correct your falsehoods:
a) English Bible versions removed "He" from the Greek manuscript in 1 tim3:16& fraudently inserted "God",.their source manuscript is textus receptus (TR).
KJVs ,Geneva Bible, Jubilee Bible, Young's Literal Translation, modern English version, Green's Literal Translation,Bishop's Bible ,Quaker's Bible,Tyndale New Testament. Coverdale Bible , Rotherham Emphasized Bible.

****" Dean Burgon one of the main supporters of the TR declared that the TR needs correction... 150 corrections from the TR gospel of Matthew alone"
SOURCE* Textus Receptus (Wikipedia)
These are what you use to back up your satanic doctrines. Majority of English Bible versions are from TR.
Even the Catholic Douay Bible renders "He" in 1tim3:16 ,they stick to the truth.
Bible versions not based on TR stuck with "He" at 1tim3:16.

Mr lying Pharisee ,show us in your Bible that Jesus hands was nailed to the inscription "HERE IS THE KING OF THE JEWS"

Janosky:

Brain scrubbed Pharisee doing what he knows best - LYING.
* Let me correct your falsehoods:
a) English Bible versions removed "He" from the Greek manuscript in 1 tim3:16& fraudently inserted "God",.their source manuscript is textus receptus (TR).
KJVs ,Geneva Bible, Jubilee Bible, Young's Literal Translation, modern English version, Green's Literal Translation,Bishop's Bible ,Quaker's Bible,Tyndale New Testament. Coverdale Bible , Rotherham Emphasized Bible.

****" Dean Burgon one of the main supporters of the TR declared that the TR needs correction... 150 corrections from the TR gospel of Matthew alone"
SOURCE* Textus Receptus (Wikipedia)
These are what you use to back up your satanic doctrines. Majority of English Bible versions are from TR.
Even the Catholic Douay Bible renders "He" in 1tim3:16 ,they stick to the truth.
Bible versions not based on TR stuck with "He" at 1tim3:16.

Mr lying Pharisee ,show us in your Bible that Jesus hands was nailed to the inscription "HERE IS THE KING OF THE JEWS"

Since you now know the people that fraudulently inserted God in that passage good.

Some people in 1952 fraudulently inserted jehovah 218 times in the new testament in their own bible when it was never mentioned in the original Greek manuscripts.

johnw47:


lying false jw ableguy
quote the trash i keep repeating and i will show you where you are lying
and you false jw's of course cannot stop lying:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Oga please stop quoting me, I didn't qoute u, thanks.

Barristter07:

Good point. But
They have no reasoning faculty .

Don't mind them

ableguy:

Don't mind them

I never knew some people can allow hypocrisy to blind them totally from seeing what is so obvious!
It's not my father that founded any of the churches so there's no reason for me to start backing any of them out of reasoning!

ableguy:

Don't mind them

Quote bible verses to support your reasoning faculty. I know you will have no Bible verse to support your reasoning faculty.

Janosky:

Brain scrubbed Pharisee doing what he knows best - LYING.
* Let me correct your falsehoods:
a) English Bible versions removed "He" from the Greek manuscript in 1 tim3:16& fraudently inserted "God",.their source manuscript is textus receptus (TR).
KJVs ,Geneva Bible, Jubilee Bible, Young's Literal Translation, modern English version, Green's Literal Translation,Bishop's Bible ,Quaker's Bible,Tyndale New Testament. Coverdale Bible , Rotherham Emphasized Bible.

****" Dean Burgon one of the main supporters of the TR declared that the TR needs correction... 150 corrections from the TR gospel of Matthew alone"
SOURCE* Textus Receptus (Wikipedia)
These are what you use to back up your satanic doctrines. Majority of English Bible versions are from TR.
Even the Catholic Douay Bible renders "He" in 1tim3:16 ,they stick to the truth.
Bible versions not based on TR stuck with "He" at 1tim3:16.

Mr lying Pharisee ,show us in your Bible that Jesus hands was nailed to the inscription "HERE IS THE KING OF THE JEWS"

this is d only claim u brainscrubbed cultists can cling to: accussing the authors of FALSEHOOD.
You simply dont know what you are talking about.
the kjv is so exact, that where a word or phrase is inserted into the text to clarify the meaning,theyd render it in ITALICS! The kjv was written as a WORD-FOR-WORD translation of the scriptures. it isnt a THOUGHT-FOR-THOUGHT rendition! The kjv was the work of over 150 devout scholars who feared God. Not theologians. Every rendition was checked massively after interpretation.

Majority of the english bibles ARE NOT TR. kjv is the only one ,they maybe one or two more, based on tr.

On He vs God thing, it is grammertically incorrect to say He without antecedent.
1Tim3v7: moreover HE must have a good report of them that are without...
Who is the 'HE' here ? 'HE' here refers to the object referred to in 1tim3v2. A bishop.

What is the antecedent to the He in 1Tim3v16? Who is the He?



Dean Burgon,isnt the inspiration og God's word. His opinion only matters if it doesnt go against the recorded word,which tht TR is.
Dean's burgeon's opinions are irrelevant. Translating the bible from one language (greek) to another doesnt need the input of EXPERTS just knowledge of the source language. If the TR were inconsistent,it would b another issue. But the thousands of collected manuscripts are highly consistent. Highly reliable. So the task simply involves translating to the target language nd moving on.

The other bible versions are based off of very corrupt bible manuscripts. The Wescott nd hort texts. These men were satanists and didnt think the bible was really God's inspired word. The worked off non TR texts and your so called douey version springs from their works.

If the word were really HE in the TR then the translator of other TR based versions at one point would have translated differently. But they all unanimously use the same word GOD, which isnt a coincidence because that is what is in the text not HE!

If on the other Hand it really is HE in the verses two things couldav happened:
some would hav translated it, Christ,others would have translated it God. Few would have left it in it's grammertical INCORRECT form of using a pronoun without antecedent WHICH IS RUBBISH. You dont use a pronoun WITHOUT ANTECEDENT it's grammertically unsound and incorrect

Barristter07:


I already highlight what Jesus said by pointing out that angels are SEXLESS . but when they manifest as Males, they have Male organs . If they manifest and have Male organs BUT are actually sexless , Does that not tell you what is manifested is totally Different from who they are ?

Sense



Do they have Sex organs as Spirits ?

answer my original question and leave your opinion out of things.
do spirits have corresponding body parts to humans ?
it's a simple yes or no answer. Backup your response with scriptures.
We are on the issue of the richman having a tongue and talking and being thirsty though dead!

ableguy:

I want to even ask my brother was it only on the hand Jesus was injured? I suppose other parts of his body were also injured even if it heal within that short period of time won't there be scars?
If it was the old body won't their be injuries on other parts of the body like the remember crown with torns that injured the head or at least the scars will be there.
For Thomas to even ask for evidence shows it wasn't the old body as the old body would bear evidence that it was once mutilated

try harder. Sorry bro theyre no quote-locks in NL Yet.
Fortunately,you cant change the scriptures.
A glimpse at how dumb this statement is, if God fabricated a new body? What happened to the old? Vanished? Then scriptures would b broken-because it says His body shall NOT SUFFER CORRUPTION. God preserved the old body NOT DISPOSE IT OR REPLACE IT.
2) then Jesus in a new body wouldnt be Human.
Jesus is called Son of God and Son of Man. He was human,he shared man's humanity by having a HUMAN body! To have a human body he had to grow in a human womb and be born as all humans are. He doesnt have joseph's dna though and didnt inherit joseph's adamic nature. But he was human.

For God to fabricate another BODY without the DUE process would b forgery.

Why didnt God just drop Jesus from the sky with the new body to begin with? Why go thru process of birth,nurture and growth?

Jesus body had human dna! The umblical cord tht connects babies to their mothers connected Jesus to mary. He received nourishmnt via her. He was weaned. He was human.
A body without the human connection would b counterfeit.

Why would God mutilate the new fabricated body to look like the old complete with nail holes and stripes?
Why would Jesus come down with this new false body and parade it before thomas?

Hairyrapunzel:


Quote bible verses to support your reasoning faculty. I know you will have no Bible verse to support your reasoning faculty.

So the one that was quoted for u is not enough abi?
Read 1 peter 3:18,19.
1 Corinthians 15:43-45.
Besides the Bible uses the term 'he appeared to them' anytime he was said to be with his followers.
1 Corinthians 15:5
Luke 24:34.
Was he appearing to them before?

ableguy:

So the one that was quoted for u is not enough abi?

Show us the bible verse that said Jesus had or didnt have torn marks on his head mr reasoning faculty.

ableguy:

So the one that was quoted for u is not enough abi?
Read 1 peter 3:18,19.
1 Corinthians 15:43-45.
Besides the Bible uses the term 'he appeared to them' anytime he was said to be with his followers.
1 Corinthians 15:5
Luke 24:34.
Was he appearing to them before?

Did Jesus have torn marks on his head? You wanna change the narrative now?

ableguy:

So the one that was quoted for u is not enough abi?
Read 1 peter 3:18,19.
1 Corinthians 15:43-45.
Besides the Bible uses the term 'he appeared to them' anytime he was said to be with his followers.
1 Corinthians 15:5
Luke 24:34.
Was he appearing to them before?

Now it has come down to the use of appearing before them right? Did Jesus Christ say he has flesh and bones? Did Jesus say it is I myself?

Hairyrapunzel:


Now it has come down to the use of appearing before them right? Did Jesus Christ say he has flesh and bones? Did Jesus say it is I myself?

Oga I don't have ur time biko, understand whatever u want I have shown u several scriptures proving Christ was resurrected in spirit so be there arguing the scripture yet u call yourself a follower of Christ

ableguy:

Oga I don't have ur time biko, understand whatever u want I have shown u several scriptures proving Christ was resurrected in spirit so be there arguing the scripture yet u call yourself a follower of Christ

Christ resurrected as himself. He said so himself. You can't change that.

Luke 24:36-40 - And as they thus spoke, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and said unto them, Peace be unto you.

37. But they were terrified and frightened, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.

38. And He said unto them, Why are ye troubled? And why do thoughts arise in your hearts?

39. Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as you see me have.

40. And when He had thus spoken, He showed them his hands and his feet


Na Jesus Christ talk am. You expect us to disregard Jesus Christ's words and accept your assumption because you have become Jesus right?

Show us the bible verse where Jesus Christ said he was a spirit on resurrection na?

ableguy:

Oga I don't have ur time biko, understand whatever u want I have shown u several scriptures proving Christ was resurrected in spirit so be there arguing the scripture yet u call yourself a follower of Christ

I am a follower of Christ that is why I can never disregard Jesus Christ's words. You that regards only gb words and turn a blind eye to Jesus Christ's words. Shame didn't allow you quote Luke 24:36-40. lol

Barristter07:

Good point. But
They have no reasoning faculty .

blinded lie lie barrister

you must think that the Lord was out and about, and visiting the apostles still covered in blood
Jesus body did have evidence that it had been mutulated:

Joh 20:27  Then saith he to Thomas, Reach hither thy finger, and behold my hands; and reach hither thy hand, and thrust it into my side: and be not faithless, but believing.

and the Lord even said He is not a Spirit but flesh and bones, and you don't believe Him and make God a liar:

Luk 24:39  Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.

1Jn_5:10  He that believeth on the Son of God hath the witness in himself: he that believeth not God hath made him a liar; because he believeth not the record that God gave of his Son.


your end is:

Rev_20:15  And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.







2Co_4:4  In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.






your father the devil has your imaginations saying anything:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

ableguy:

Oga please stop quoting me, I didn't qoute u, thanks.

lying false jw ableguy

you didn't quote me, you just cowardly gossipped of me to another

and of course i may reply to cowards when they refer of me in lies:

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

ableguy:

Don't mind them

lying false jw ableguy

but you do, ha ha such hypocrites:

Luk_12:1  Beware ye of the leaven of the Pharisees, which is hypocrisy.

Maximus69:
I never knew some people can allow hypocrisy to blind them totally from seeing what is so obvious!
It's not my father that founded any of the churches so there's no reason for me to start backing any of them out of reasoning!

lying false jw max

ha ha, Jesus speaks much about your fore fathers the pharisees hypocricy
and your god has taught it to you false jw very well along with lying
you only have to go back to my last reply to ableguy to see false jw hyprocrisy in action

Joh_8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.