famzynet:
Madam,your decision is good. I just came back from London. My short visit there made me realise how backward this country is. Think of UK,Australia,Canada, Germany. Turkey is even far advanced than this country. By advanced,I mean better education and exposure for your kids. Nigeria is a mess. I can't wait to leave here permanently.

As much as I can identify with your claims..

A holiday doesn't give you a true insight of living in a country...

The 2 types of experience are so divergent, it's unreal!!!
The cost of living is often unnoticed and the ills of society are often not evident in the tourist traditional plethora of things to-do.

I once had a lady who relocated after holidaying yearly in the same country for 5yrs, still mutter that it was a different kettle of fish. By the way she had schooled there for 18 months for her masters on dad's payroll previously.


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Madam,it's quite commendable DAT u want to give ur kids the best life despite the ups n downs you've experienced. But my 5cents is dis:
Pls don't be in a hurry or act in desperation especially when it comes to traveling stuffs like dis because it's very easy for one to make the wrong decisions n even fall into d hands of scammers parading themselves as traveling agents.Pls,give it time.I understand DAT you're still healing but giving it time n not rushing will help u see things in a different, clearer,broader n more realistic picture. If u still feel leaving Nigeria with ur kids is d best,then know that it's gonna b very difficult for u n d kids to survive there because for one reason they're still very young,so I'd advise u first go alone n spend sometime there,at least it would be very easy for u to get them over,cater for them properly while they are with u there n u would have understood governmental policies but I know leaving ur kids behind won't be a very easy decision for u 2 make.But, if u can't leave them behind then work hard to give them d best life in Nigeria, d kind of life u would have loved to give them if they were abroad n if u are still keen on their recovery from the recently experienced ups n downs then u can change environment n move somewhere else(but still in naija),naija too big na, n u guys will still be able to heal well though it may take some time n dis would even afford u d necessary resources to move u guys out of d country later on n it would be easier for u then.But pls don't act in desperation n don't even have thoughts of passing through Sahara desert or Libya.
Take care madam,may God help u

Flytime:

There's no much in Ghana and Nigeria, it will even make education harder for the kids if they were in Ghana, they don't understand the language and the culture unlike the western culture which is easy to adapt to

You are wrong...very very wrong. Language is only a barrier in ghana if you live in the rural areas. Accra or places close to Accra all speak and understand perfect english. The schools (private schools) strictly enforce english. Its the government schools that really do not enforce english.

The culture in ghana is not intrusive. All in all its easy

Hadampson:


Follow this thread https://www.nairaland.com/5042902/general-german-student-visa-enquiries

Thank you. God bless.

Tetehjewels:


You are wrong...very very wrong. Language is only a barrier in ghana if you live in the rural areas. Accra or places close to Accra all speak and understand perfect english. The schools (private schools) strictly enforce english. Its the government schools that really do not enforce english.

The culture in ghana is not intrusive. All in all its easy

What about work for her as Ghana provided enough jobs for it's citizens talk less of a non citizen and also settling maybe harder since she may lacks family or relatives there

Flytime:

That's a very stupid question how does that concern you are you the one feeding the kids do you know if the dad knows about the movement

Break your phone Werey e be like say you wan dey unfortunate sha

Flytime:

What about work for her as Ghana provided enough jobs for it's citizens talk less of a non citizen and also settling maybe harder since she may lacks family or relatives there

You seem not to be able to understand my very first post. I never mentioned there that she should go get a job in Ghana. I said she could INVEST there. This means she would own her business and be an employer of labour.

You do not need family or relatives before you settle in Ghana. Besides its easy to find a Nigerian or two in Ghana and she can easily make friends among them.

Olamega78:
Australia should be perfect for you and the kids. I heard that with 1m, you can get a working visa excluding ticket fare... Remember to strictly use your head and pray fervently... Best wishes

You lied and your story is false

essenceplus:




Break your phone Werey e be like say you wan dey unfortunate sha

I have made my point

Flytime:

I have made my point

Who cares?

delerx:
Hello. I am also thinking of relocating to the UK via study visa with my wife and infant. In which she would be dependent on me and work full time.
My fears: how do we pay bills and education once we land there. And also plan to continue studying (PhD)so as to lengthen our stay there. Are the plans sustainable?

UK is a no no for now until they change their immigration policies. I'm sure you know that you will be required to return to Nigeria after your study and u might have to process your UK student visa for PhD from Nigeria. Asides that, it's going to be quite difficult to secure a visa for your wife and kids especially when the plan is for them to depend on you. From the foregoing, the plans are not sustainable. I I will advise you to consider neighboring countries with friendlier immigration policies: countries like Ireland and Switzerland are better alternatives.

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I have businesses in Ghana so live there off and on. Its a great place to make legitimate money quickly if you have the capital for investment. Just save up the money made back home here in Nigeria and it would be similar to the speed of making money in USA.

Whites and black Americans, British, Canadians, Russians etc are everywhere in Ghana and you can even find them in so called remote villages there.

Only lazy Nigerians or the criminally minded Nigerians would claim Ghana is hard.

My Children school in Ghana and their level of Brilliance always amazes me. Ghana being a majorly tourist nation is focused on keeping a good image and order and it works.

What kind of business can one do with 5million Naira in Ghana?

Tinyemeka:


What's ECOWAS permit?
What's it used for?
How does one get it?

Thanks.

I don't have much details about it but its for west African citizens that are ECOWAS

omolomolarinero:


UK is a no no for now until they change their immigration policies. I'm sure you know that you will be required to return to Nigeria after your study and u might have to process your UK student visa for PhD from Nigeria. Asides that, it's going to be quite difficult to secure a visa for your wife and kids especially when the plan is for them to depend on you. From the foregoing, the plans are not sustainable. I I will advise you to consider neighboring countries with friendlier immigration policies: countries like Ireland and Switzerland are better alternatives.

Switzerland? immigration friendly? i laugh in Hebrew

4mykids:
Do you have any idea about the ease of settling down... especially as it may concern a single mum with two kids?

Am not a travelling agent just so don't have much info I will suggest you go to the embassy of the country you will like to visit you will get first hand info

kamzibobo:
Yahoo too much

Meaning?

4mykids:
Help A Single Mum With Ideas

Hi everyone..as the topic states I need advise help and personal assistance too if possible.

I'm a single mum of two little kids and I really wish to start another phase of my life away from Nigeria. I feel it will greatly help I and my kids move on from the past.
I'm not too old to work as I'm in my early 30's. Finance is available though limited to a certain amount.

I would love a situation where I can leave with my kids and not have to come back for them later..somehow, they seem to be my motivation to go on.

With these information, which country do you suggest that will be easy for immigration.

Why do you want to leave with the Kids? What are you running from? What about their Father or his People? What happened between you and the Father?

famzynet:
Madam,your decision is good. I just came back from London. My short visit there made me realise how backward this country is. Think of UK,Australia,Canada, Germany. Turkey is even far advanced than this country. By advanced,I mean better education and exposure for your kids. Nigeria is a mess. I can't wait to leave here permanently.

Pls London is not much better than Nigeria forget story.

Dlaw6578:
I wonder how some people think

Is Ghana not a country abi where is it written that You must settle in Europe or America before God gives you peace and prosper You.
Enough of all this wrong mentality that Europe, Canada or USA is the place of prosperity and peace if so why are they too coming to Nigeria if there is nothing in Nigeria?
Just pray as an individual that God station You in your place of peace and prosperity. Shalom

Lamasta:
Try Ghana you don't need Visa but ECOWAS permit and You will never regret it

LMAO

Memberclub:
LMAO

It might be funny but there is no country in the world that you cannot excel except where there is war and unrest and also an unstable government

Nobody living in Nigeria who have never traveled abroad should be giving advice on living abroad because you people have no clue about the realities of living abroad.

4mykids:
My kids are 8 and 6. I was actually married and went through a bitter divorce last year. Before then we had been seperated for some years.
My kids came out of this union scarred and are very jumpy whenever anyone yells or seems angry...
Thankfully, I was given custody by the court.

I just feel a different environment would help them...help us greatly. Probably help them not look over their shoulders too often.

As I said earlier, they are my motivation for going on so leaving them behind is really out of it for me.

You are a good mother. Pls, whatever life throws at you, never ever leave your children behind.

Logachev:
My advise is for you to leave those kids with someone you trust in Nigeria then go and find succour. Give yourself two or three years then come back for your kids. Nothing good comes easy my dear...it may look like a lifetime of sacrifice but it will all be a story some day. I know someone that did same way I'm suggesting. Mind you...only few countries like US, Canada and Australia can accept all three of you and you all won't feel the heat for too long. But which of these three wan dash visa by prayer and fasting naaa?

My guy your brain is functioning excellent...even the US don dey vex so let her go huzzle put the kids with your mother or any boarding school they can help monitoring..even some parents in UK USA CAnada are looking for how to avoid this issue of spoilt children buy sending their kids to secondary school in Nigeria.Over there a child can slap his mum and insult her without anything.

doggedfighter:


What kind of handwork, please?

Hairdressing
Nurse (but u will attend their school to be certified there)
Barber
Plumbing etc

I have a family friend (a couple) that are enjoying there by running a restaurant

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Agriculture, A restaurateur, Fashion and Accessories. I am personally into fashion and accessories and own 2 restaurants there and i can tell you that the money is very good.

moneymins:


Mr, you don't just stay besides your keyboard to discredit a golden advice that will save those two innocent kids from future embarrassment, ladies at times might be so funny. Take Tonto dikeh scene as a case study, hmmm, they can do anything to get public sympathy. You said how are mine sure the husband didn't abandoned them or even dead. Bro know this today, 60% of Nigeria ladies have singlehandedly destroy their marriage in a bid to get at their husband. Their is still something she hasn't let us all know partaining those innocent kids. She might probably not be the biological mother of those kids. Thanks

Bla bla bla pls shut up. She went through a painful divorce, was given custody of the kids. She herself said it. What else do you want? Making a sweeping generalization about women is unintelligent.

4mykids:
My reason for japa-ing is just for the emotional well-being of my kids and I.
I have a good paying job actually in administration with years of experience although my degree is in the sciences. I also in my spare time do a bit of freelancing (write and transcribe).
Truth is that I just want to be far from Nigeria, it can even be in any other favourableAfrican country. I deserve that peace of mind, my kids too. I'm not running away from anyone. I just need to start my life afresh with my kids.

After you don scatter your name anyhow in Nigeria, you wan come run comot. Smh

Please go and huzzle if possible send your children to your mum or any close family person.Go and huzzle while you try get the paper of the country you finally chose.US is a no go area and would have been the best. I know of someone that spent about 10m to get Green card but you have to get 2years visa first and process the green card in the US.please look elsewhere..Germany and UK is my only better country for Europe..

Alghough, all these wahala of America will soon end one day. We are all waiting for trump's tenure to lapse..perhaps the next president will change all these wicked immigration laws but I doubt if anyone could outsmart trump in next election..the guy is doing well to the Americans with his wicked laws to affecting outsider especially Mexico.. no more game as usual..Lol.Goodluck.

Cyberknight:
I see this topic has made it to the front page, which is fitting, because I'm sure there are a lot of us Nigerians in your shoes, with varying degrees of a desire to check out like Andrew.

I will add one other thing to what I said earlier - checking out (excuse the 1980's reference) is doable, but with your children as a package, rendered more difficult. I strongly advise you to take a trip to your preferred destination or indeed any developed western country and look around and/or put your ear to the ground.

Life is organised and regulated, but not easy. It is perfectly common to see people living in the urban centres (and as a fresh immigrant you must live in an urban centre because that's where most of the jobs and the racial tolerance are) who are working but can't cover their (especially housing) bills and end up as the "working poor". Homelessness is never too far away in such cases, because you know the way the oyibo system is - family ties don't work the way they do here - and unless you have guaranteed accommodation, it is oh-so-easy to end up knocking on the door of a church for a place to sleep even while you have a pay cheque in your pocket.

And also, while we always hope for the best, we always are advised to contemplate the worst. If things take a (hopefully temporary) downturn at some point in one's life over there, it's easier to seek help alone, maybe crash in a church or on a friend or coworker's couch for a few days, than if you had 2 children in tow. Etcetera.

When things look bleak for a while, sometimes depression and other mental conditions are not too far away. In a foreign land, without support and with two dependent children to deal with, it can be easy to succumb.

This is not to discourage you but to get you to look at your alternatives clearly. Also, I see that you are divorced. You have to get their father's consent to relocate with them legally, so you might want to start working on that too.

Lastly, I've 3 children of my own. I'm not female, but saying that men think differently about such situations than women is only true to the extent that I would leave my children behind if I were you.

Not because I love them any less than their mother, but because I'm operating on cold hard reason and not emotion and realise that, just like when the aircraft instructions tell you to put on your own oxygen mask before helping any young child who cannot do so themselves, you can only help your children if you yourself are alive, and in a condition to do so, and the best way to achieve that is not to over-encumber yourself.

Spot on... Thumbs up

segzyndpep:


But it worth it ,its just 3.2m na.Though not easy to get but it worth it if you actually like to stay in europe.

Please tell me more about this block account thing