Truthsbitter:
Thanks for attending to my questions ..
I mean a God from whom all spiritual power and/or knowledge comes from..

Let me explain better.

I fail to see any being that would be God. I see entities, deities, angels, humans, elementals, animals, plants, and what have you, but no single being is Supreme.

What I consider God is a universal stream of consciousness of which we are all part and parts of. If we are drops of water, God is the ocean. God is therefore the sum total of all, condensed in a singularity. Then the singularity expanded and gave birth to all that there is, hence we are all of his race. His offspring.

Jesus never claimed to be God. Most religions started with a prophet teaching a revolutionary message who was later defied. Jesus at best claimed to be a son of God, and was trying to teach others how to achieve that status too.

Truthsbitter:
I get exactly what you mean...
But do you think he is the Almighty God who all source of wisdom and/or power comes from (that is what the bible suggest or says?

I Thought the perfection of spiritual abilities comes from a full realised consciousness?
Do you believe there's "the HOLY SPIRIT"?.

You must take the Bible for what it is.

It is a collection of books made by political men (romans) with a specific agenda: unify their vast kingdom into a unique and uniform empire with a single religion. In so doing, they have removed from the Bible many books of great depths, and favored books that were not even written by close companions of Jesus.

Of all the books of the New testament, only 4 or 5 were verifiably written by people who really knew Jesus while he was alive. Most if not all the books written by the companions of Jesus were taken out (gospels of Thomas, Peter, Mary, Judas, etc.). That alone should make you ponder more.

I will be back to Adress the rest of your questions.

budaatum:

Life made. Animals in the forest have morals as do bacteria.

Those who don't have morals are the dead.

That's a long shot, but I give you that. If you read the context I meant to say that morality is subjective and not objective. Every group creates its own moral principles.

Of course we can disagree.

@LoJ, what's your advice for a person that wants to find their universal guide?

What's your view about luck, prayer? If God is all-knowing, why do we need to pray?

Are there witches and wizards in reality, or they only exist as figments of imagination of religious people?

Thank you.

LoJ:

Let me explain better.

I fail to see any being that would be God. I see entities, deities, angels, humans, elementals, animals, plants, and what have you, but no single being is Supreme.

What I consider God is a universal stream of consciousness of which we are all part and parts of. If we are drops of water, God is the ocean. God is therefore the sum total of all, condensed in a singularity. Then the singularity expanded and gave birth to all that there is, hence we are all of his race. His offspring.

Jesus never claimed to be God. Most religions started with a prophet teaching a revolutionary message who was later defied. Jesus at best claimed to be a son of God, and was trying to teach others how to achieve that status too.


You must take the Bible for what it is.

It is a collection of books made by political men (romans) with a specific agenda: unify their vast kingdom into a unique and uniform empire with a single religion. In so doing, they have removed from the Bible many books of great depths, and favored books that were not even written by close companions of Jesus.

Of all the books of the New testament, only 4 or 5 were verifiably written by people who really knew Jesus while he was alive. Most if not all the books written by the companions of Jesus were taken out (gospels of Thomas, Peter, Mary, Judas, etc.). That alone should make you ponder more.

I will be back to Adress the rest of your questions.

okay bro, I hopefully await the rest of your reply ...
thanks

LoJ:

I fail to get your point. You sound like I am undermining Mesmer's achievements.

The only thing I am saying, is that Hypnotism DID NOT EXIST when Mesmer was active, and certainly Mesmerism WAS NOT likened to Hypnotism, since it was not even in existence.

Hypnotism was developed AFTER Mesmer, from studying his work. This is not perception, it is recorded fact in history. It does not devalue Mesmer in anyway.

I know you appreciate Fr Mesmer for it was clearly shown in your earlier post but what I am saying is that the general opinion about Mesmer's contribution is not properly represented or misrepresented as the public felt ' hypnotism' was how to describe the new phenomenon ' but unknown to them, it was not new to rosicrucians who had been studying the nerve cell electricity long before Mesmer. As a matter of fact Mesmer studied Michael Faraday's extensive work on electricity. His fantastic works unknown to the public are well documented. I think a better glimpse of this energy is captured in Maria Corelli's ' a tale of two worlds'.

I understand you sir.

Babacele:
I understand you sir.

No you don't get me, and this post further proves it.
Mesmerism was never likened to hypnotism BECAUSE hypnotism DID NOT exist at the time!

Hypnotism was developed way later from the works of mesmer.

It's like saying people were comparing horses to cars in the middle age, WHEN CARS DID NOT EXIST YET.

Maybe what you are trying to say is that RIGHT NOW people confuse animal magnetism (Mesmerism) with hypnosis. Which I agree.

LoJ:

No you don't get me, and this post further proves it.
Mesmerism was never likened to hypnotism BECAUSE hypnotism DID NOT exist at the time!

Hypnotism was developed way later from the works of mesmer.

It's like saying people were comparing horses to cars in the middle age, WHEN CARS DID NOT EXIST YET.

Maybe what you are trying to say is that RIGHT NOW people confuse animal magnetism (Mesmerism) with hypnosis. Which I agree.

OK bro. ...but maybe they didn't use the word ' hypnotism' but the insinuations or superstition then concerning mesmer's work is still the same today but in a positive way as Hypnotism is attributed to him unlike when he was misunderstood and mocked in the past.

LoJ:
Let's now look at free masonry perhaps the most renowned of them all.

Free masons are first of all masons. It is the craft of those that want to build, build their spiritual bodies first then that is co - create, co-build with the divine. Each one hence learn the craft and attempts to build a world that reflects noble ideas, Freedom equality self realization. A free Mason therefore learns to be free and be a builder.

As a side note, the building of America as an idea(l) and as a place was largely derived from the inner workings of free masonry, just as much of the construction of old Europe is indebted to Rosicrucianism.

The question remains why are these esoteric groups so much associated with all kinds of evils, especially in African climes. Before we adress that, let's deal with Eckankar as requested by a reader.

Eckankar is in my opinion, another one of the numerous religious groups that are birthed from time to time and usually capture those that are disenchanted with traditional religions, but are too afraid to go to hardcore esoteric paths such as the ones aforementioned. Other such groups include the Mormons, the gnosis of Samael aun weor, the Grail message etc.

They are usually a watered down version of some deeper esoteric path, or a modern mixture of them. In the case of Eckankar, one can't fail to see it draws inspiration from hindouism and tantra but highly watered down and modernized.

The famous chanting of HU, is actually a modern version of the mantra of OM (pronounced HAUM) which is believed to be the primary sound in the creation of the cosmos. Some gurus also "anoint" special words for their adherent who will thus easily join an Astral created Kingdom of theirs.

I am not saying it can't be useful to adhere to Eckankar. I am just giving my honest opinion about the school. Any path can be useful to a seeker, just as any path can be dangerous to the frivolous. The lips of the master opens right when the ear of the student are ready.

Hermetic principles of the kybalion

LoJ:
Hermetica always reminds me of a beautiful memory. Once upon a time I was in my room reading the Bible, lo and behold a being came to me.

He said follow me and I will show you the multiverse. Within a very short time, shorter than the snaps of Thanos , I found myself out of my body, desincarnated and faced with a strange view. My companion told me that this was the whole cosmos and I was privileged to contemplate it in its entirety.

I will not describe it here for obvious reasons, but suffice to say that at the very Center of the whole thing, there was a ray of pure impeccable light.

Surprisingly, this light was like a highway. A few beings were ascending and descending through that ray in a very straight and quick way. But the overwhelming vast majority of beings were rather going in circles making little to no progress.

That day I understood what it is Jacob saw that night in Bethel. Cf. Jacobs Ladder

Hello sir, does this relate to the activation of the 3rd eye(pineal gland)?

LoJ:

There is hardly anyone that has achieved a static full realisation. There is always a step forward, and evolution is constant.

Yes there are african mystery schools, and african masters. I am not familiar with the nigerian scene, but I believe there are secret cults and teachings across various tribes. The african (nigerian) stories of the Tortoise for instance indicate a sacred (secret) spiritual teaching and cult. I once met the one people call "gaia" who told me she used to be revered in african climes under a specific name (withheld).

Sarassin was of nigerian origin and culture, and to call him a master would even be unfair to him. In fact if People knew him in real life they would have been astonished. Others like Mwankwo or Pastoraio , are also very advanced and it would not be outrageous to consider them Masters (although they likely would not accept).


I fail to see a particular influx of enlightened beings to India. This is more mythological than factual.

If you are christian or jewish, you will wonder why Israel is the chosen nation. If you are a muslim, you may think saudi arabia is the divine destination. Catholics used to consider Rome, the city of all saints.

I have no reasons to believe there are more spiritually advanced people from India than any other society. If you have any evidence to back up this claim, bring forward, I will be glad to examine and have a rethink.

I am not sure what you mean. If you mean to ask if one influences the other, the answer is yes.

For instance, after a long practice, some meditative practice alter the inner constitution of an individual down to the DNA level. In Neikung it is established that their training does affect the DNA too.

If your question is rather, are some people born with unique spiritual abilities, the answer is again yes. Sometimes these gifts are the passed from one life to the other (Reincarnation) as a result of a previous training. For instance, let's assume you activate you pineal gland in this life. Great chances are that in the next, it will be automatically activated from birth.

I for instance, see visions of the future, uncontrollably, since I was born.

Our DNA, morphology, inborn family, etc. is also a reflection of who we are and where we stand at soul level. The correct understanding of this helps in aura based healing practices.

sir, thank you so much for your time and patience...i am on the road to finding my true purpose. Lately all is repeated sequence like 11:11 and also does sex affect these spiritual gifts?

Babacele:
I know you appreciate Fr Mesmer for it was clearly shown in your earlier post but what I am saying is that the general opinion about Mesmer's contribution is not properly represented or misrepresented as the public felt ' hypnotism' was how to describe the new phenomenon ' but unknown to them, it was not new to rosicrucians who had been studying the nerve cell electricity long before Mesmer. As a matter of fact Mesmer studied Michael Faraday's extensive work on electricity. His fantastic works unknown to the public are well documented. I think a better glimpse of this energy is captured in Maria Corelli's ' a tale of two worlds'.

I understand you sir.

A Corelli Fan! The only other I know is my dad.

LoJ:

Let me explain better.

I fail to see any being that would be God. I see entities, deities, angels, humans, elementals, animals, plants, and what have you, but no single being is Supreme.

What I consider God is a universal stream of consciousness of which we are all part and parts of. If we are drops of water, God is the ocean. God is therefore the sum total of all, condensed in a singularity. Then the singularity expanded and gave birth to all that there is, hence we are all of his race. His offspring.

Jesus never claimed to be God. Most religions started with a prophet teaching a revolutionary message who was later defied. Jesus at best claimed to be a son of God, and was trying to teach others how to achieve that status too.


You must take the Bible for what it is.

It is a collection of books made by political men (romans) with a specific agenda: unify their vast kingdom into a unique and uniform empire with a single religion. In so doing, they have removed from the Bible many books of great depths, and favored books that were not even written by close companions of Jesus.

Of all the books of the New testament, only 4 or 5 were verifiably written by people who really knew Jesus while he was alive. Most if not all the books written by the companions of Jesus were taken out (gospels of Thomas, Peter, Mary, Judas, etc.). That alone should make you ponder more.

I will be back to Adress the rest of your questions.

The ALL is in everything and everything was created from the ALL

gensteejay:
@LoJ, what's your advice for a person that wants to find their universal guide?

Hello, I am sorry I forgot to addres your enquiries. Thanks that you reminded me.

Communication between two entities is only possible when they are more or less in the same frequency level. The principle of mentalism tells us that all is vibration and frequency. Let's illustrate this with a fan (Ventilator). The quicker the blades of a fan rotate, the less visible they become. The slower their rotating frequency, the more visibility they gain.

This is exactly how the universe is. The beings with higher frequency are more spiritual and light, the beings with slower frequency are denser. To communicate with any being you have to be able to get anywhere near his frequency (or vice versa).

This is the major obstacle. Universal guides are always there to help and teach, but we are unable to reach out to them because we are too dense and out of reach. So the first thing in any spiritual path is learning how to meditate and thereby master how to increase your vibration (or sometimes decrease) at will.

So practice meditation for a sustained amount of time, and your guide will reach out to you. Before then, it will always place around you things, people or circumstances to educate you to become the best version of yourself.

gensteejay:
What's your view about luck, prayer? If God is all-knowing, why do we need to pray?

My view about luck? I do not really believe in luck, I believe in randomness and preparation. When a random circumstance happen to you and you are prepared to manage it and make the most out of it, and people call you lucky. When reverse is the case, they call you unlucky. Also there is a dimension of karma, reaping the effects of sometimes forgotten causes.

With respect to prayer, it all depends on what you mean by prayer. Maybe you mean requests to God. Then such requests are unnecessary, as God is not personal to start with. He does not react to tears and supplications, only to laws and principles whose firmness he guarantees for the greater good of all.

Still, people can make requests to their egregores or to a deity they have an affiliation with. That's a different ball game altogether. In such case prayer can be useful to them depending on the terms of their contract with the said egregore or deity / entity.

In general terms, prayer needs not be a request. That's the lowest Form it can be. Prayer is more a time of focus and meditation and Thanksgiving.

Then, people do not pray to ask for things, they rather pray to harness the power and dedication to achieve it themselves

gensteejay:
Are there witches and wizards in reality, or they only exist as figments of imagination of religious people?

Thank you.

I don't know your definition of witches and wizard. If you mean people with greater knowledge of the cosmos that use it for their own gain, or that of the community, yes such people exist.

In all spiritual paths there are usually 2 broad paths a man of knowledge can choose. The left path and the the right path. A left path master can use his knowledge to kill, still and destroy those that are weaker than him. You can't do anything about that except learn to protect yourself.

A right path man of knowledge will use his abilities to help and work for the greater good of all.

Then they are people who chose the middle path.

wickedtuna:
The ALL is in everything and everything was created from the ALL

The Kybalion is a good book.

wickedtuna:
sir, thank you so much for your time and patience...i am on the road to finding my true purpose. Lately all is repeated sequence like 11:11 and also does sex affect these spiritual gifts?

I have no expertise on numerology. If you are certain there is a message behind that, find a true expert in that field.

Sex does not affect spiritual gifts. Sex is a natural process and is not in anyway in opposition to spiritual pursuit. However sex can be used for spiritual purposes such as the creation of a servant (sex Magick) or opening the gates of the subconscious.

LoJ:

I have no expertise on numerology. If you are certain there is a message behind that, find a true expert in that field.

Sex does not affect spiritual gifts. Sex is a natural process and is not in anyway in opposition to spiritual pursuit. However sex can be used for spiritual purposes such as the creation of a servant (sex Magick) or opening the gates of the subconscious.

thank you very much sir.

Hello LoJ. How do you recommend we medidate if we're Interested is esoteric development and not just meditation for relaxation.

budaatum:

A Corelli Fan! The only other I know is my dad.

lols ......I am bro. she was a Rosicrucian too. I love Corelli!

Firefox01:
Hello LoJ. How do you recommend we medidate if we're Interested is esoteric development and not just meditation for relaxation.

Relaxation is a by product of meditation.

What is your religious background?

Shall we move the thread forward by discussing Alchemy.

Alchemy is the knowledge and practice of transforming one state of mind to another. Alchemy is to the spirit what chemistry is to the physical.

People fail to notice how chemistry plays a critical role in our daily lives. Whether food, sleep, sex, work, and most of the rest, everything we do and experience can be reduced to a chemical reaction. Everything can be expressed in chemical terms. In a sense the whole universe is an expression of chemical relationships at the physical level, and alchemical relationships at metaphysical level, trying to balance and unbalance each other out.

A single hormone makes the difference between being Hot or not, being fertile, or not, being fit or not. That's a the physical level the power of chemistry.

Alchemist of the past used to communicate in a symbolic language (the language of trees and branches) designed to hide their message from the vile, while transmitting their discovery to worthy posterity. That was how, the belief that Alchemy was about finding a method to turn vile metals into Gold, became very popular.

Indeed many a crook and con men took the opportunity to claim they have the alchemist recipe to turn lead into Gold. Marco Bragadino comes to my mind, as the man who milked Venitia dry off its whole money by claiming he could produce gold at will.

Alchemy was never truly about turning base metals into Gold. The true aim was to transform man's various fundamental states of mind into Christ consciousness.

LoJ:

Relaxation is a by product of meditation.

What is your religious background?

Islam. However I'm currently non practicing.

Firefox01:
Islam. However I'm currently non practicing.

OK. I will later give you a simple meditation approach consistent with Islamic practice.

The alchemist studies the "blocks" or the universe.

Why are Lego so popular as toy for children? They are made of bricks / blocks which you can assemble to form whatever you want. In the same way, Democritus demonstrated that the universe is made of blocks which brought together constitute all that we know or are yet to know.

The alchemist therefore learns how to bring together the blocks of the cosmos to create a desired reality. The ultimate aim being Godhood.

Unfortunately, the craft seem to be disappearing. Because of the bad reputation associated with alchemist con men, people had less and less vocation for alchemy and went for other traditions.

I am yet to see a true alchemist from the order of the greats, although I am certain there still are some.

LoJ:

OK. I will later give you a simple meditation approach consistent with Islamic practice.

Thanks. Anticipating

Goodjob on what you're doing too.

Firefox01:
Thanks. Anticipating

Hello I suggest to you the following meditative practice. It is inspired from Islamic tenets and is very effective. People don't know that the Arabic Allah divine name is very rhythmic and appropriate for transcendental meditation. It facilitates the connexion with the higher self.

The caveat here is that you know how to clean your environment. If you don't, take your meditation pose and visualise a spring of water coming down on you, and taking away all filth on and around you.

Use the divine name in a rhythmic manner in pair with your breathing. That's, as you breathe in say Aah - and breathe out with - Lahh.

Do this continuously for 15-20 min for some months and watch your spiritual side become awoke.

LoJ:

Hello I suggest to you the following meditative practice. It is inspired from Islamic tenets and is very effective. People don't know that the Arabic Allah divine name is very rhythmic and appropriate for transcendental meditation. It facilitates the connexion with the higher self.

The caveat here is that you know how to clean your environment. If you don't, take your meditation pose and visualise a spring of water coming down on you, and taking away all filth on and around you.

Use the divine name in a rhythmic manner in pair with your breathing. That's, as you breathe in say Aah - and breathe out with - Lahh.

Do this continuously for 15-20 min for some months and watch your spiritual side become awoke.

I have been practising different methods of meditation for some time now, including tantra, to find the particular method that best suits me.

Do you think I'm doing the right thing?

How can I engage in TM as an irreligious fellow?

Thank you.

gensteejay:
Do you think I'm doing the right thing?

There is no unique tantric meditation technique. There are tons of them.

Can you describe to me how exactly you meditate?

LoJ:

There is no unique tantric meditation technique. There are tons of them.

Can you describe to me how exactly you meditate?

Most times, I use the posture below. Occasionally, I would sit like that with my palm facing up (can't remember the names of the meditative postures).

I first started meditating over a year ago and used to lie down. But I don't use that method any longer.

gensteejay:

Most times, I use the posture below. Occasionally, I would sit like that with my palm facing up (can't remember the names of the meditative postures).

I first started meditating over a year ago and used to lie down. But I don't use that method any longer.

Beyond the physical posture, I am Asking about your real process/technique.