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Bigcowhorn:
Copy copy from Goggle. Leave Goggle alone. Wikipedia is even better. The day of Yom Rishon technically stretches from Saturday evening to Monday Monday!. It's more about sabbath and not working than a normal day of 24 hrs.

Like i said in the beginning. You can get away with a lot of things where the bible and Quran are.

let's leave it there bro,
the point is the 7th day is the of worship
which in mordern calendar is Saturday and the first day which Jesus rosed from the death
in mordern calendar is Sunday, it was on a working day,

Till this day those practicing Judaism worship on the seventh day which we call in mordern day Saturday, the seventh day Adventist do the same
Thats all am pointing out

jimyjames:
let's leave it there bro,
the point is the 7th day is the of worship
which in mordern calendar is Saturday and the first day which Jesus rosed from the death
in mordern calendar is Sunday, it was on a working day,

Till this day those practicing Judaism worship on the seventh day which we call in mordern day Saturday, the seventh day Adventist do the same
Thats all am pointing out

We are basically saying same thing with just 1 difference.

You claim that Sunday as a day of worship for Christians was set cos Jesus rose from the dead on that day. Wrong... this particular Sunday is Easter Sunday. IT IS WHY EASTER IS ALWAYS ON A SUNDAY

Jesus dies on Friday (Good Friday) but rises on Sunday (Easter Sunday).


The reason why Christians worship on Sunday, every Sunday is that they consider ti the Sabbath day and on that day do no work. Even offices do not open.

Judaism's version of Sabbath is Saturday. Some churches even stick to that Saturday schedule for worship, etc... the Sabbath church.


The earliest church was the roman Catholic Church and the pope supposedly sits on the Throne of St Peter. It's papal power that made Sunday official sabbath day for Christians. Nothing about the Roman catholic church followed the ways of the early church established by Christ.

Bigcowhorn:
We are basically saying same thing with just 1 difference.

You claim that Sunday as a day of worship for Christians was set cos Jesus rose from the dead on that day. Wrong... this particular Sunday is Easter Sunday. IT IS WHY EASTER IS ALWAYS ON A SUNDAY

Jesus dies on Friday (Good Friday) but rises on Sunday (Easter Sunday).


The reason why Christians worship on Sunday, every Sunday is that they consider ti the Sabbath day and on that day do no work. Even offices do not open.

Judaism's version of Sabbath is Saturday. Some churches even stick to that Saturday schedule for worship, etc... the Sabbath church.


The earliest church was the roman Catholic Church and the pope supposedly sits on the Throne of St Peter. It's papal power that made Sunday official sabbath day for Christians. Nothing about the Roman catholic church followed the ways of the early church established by Christ.

You didn't get me well I never said Sunday was (set) as a day of worship for Christian, but I said the prefer warshiping on Sunday cause Christ rosed from the dead on Sunday, the apostle called it the Lord's day, during the days of the apostles they observed the Sabbath the 7th day but still came together on the first day which the called the Lord's Day to break bread in remembrance of Jesus

Example
Acts 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

As time went on Grantually Christians were more eager to worship on the first day of the week than they did on the seventh,
That's why Paul said this in his letter to the Colossians

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Amatarasha:
Accepted go n sin no more

You should have explained it how Bigcowhorn did... I had no idea until he enlightened me but u didn't rather called me a deek-ead

jimyjames:
You didn't get me well I never said Sunday was (set) as a day of worship for Christian, but I said the prefer warshiping on Sunday cause Christ rosed from the dead on Sunday, the apostle called it the Lord's day, during the days of the apostles they observed the Sabbath the 7th day but still came together on the first day which the called the Lord's Day to break bread in remembrance of Jesus

This the problem. The apostles are not the reason Sunday, Christmas or Easter exist. The Roman Catholic church is

Bigcowhorn:
This the problem. The apostles are not the reason Sunday, Christmas or Easter exist. The Roman Catholic church is

Catholic do not represent all Christians and Christians started worshipping on Sundays before the Catholic ( declared) it as the day of worship it's clear from the Bible verses I gave you and I can give you more,

Romans 14:5 One person decides that one day is holier than another. Another person decides that all days are the same. Every person must make his own decision.


Talking about Christmas and Easter not all Christians celebrate Christmas or Easter, not all Christians pray to merry for intercession like Catholic, and not all Christians worship on Sunday and I gave you the example of seventh day Adventist

vincentjk:
You should have explained it how Bigcowhorn did... I had no idea until he enlightened me but u didn't rather called me a deek-ead

Babyboy am so sorry ! I thought u were sarcastic b4

Amatarasha:
Babyboy am so sorry ! I thought u were sarcastic b4

Since u forgave me who am i not to forgive u...


apology accepted

jimyjames:
Catholic do not represent all Christians and Christians started worshipping on Sundays before the Catholic ( declared) it as the day of worship it's clear from the Bible verses I gave you and I can give you more,

Romans 14:5 One person decides that one day is holier than another. Another person decides that all days are the same. Every person must make his own decision.


Talking about Christmas and Easter not all Christians celebrate Christmas or Easter, not all Christians pray to marry for intercession like Catholic, and not all Christians worship on Sunday and I gave you the example of seventh day Adventist

The church of Satan certainly doesn't worship on Sunday of do Easter and it is just one of many ni. I already mentioned the Sabbath Church for you ni. Stop mistaking me for a dumb ram



Catholic do not represent all Christians and Christians started worshipping on Sundays before the Catholic ( declared) it as the day of worship it's clear from the Bible verses I gave you and I can give you more,


There you go again thinking i am a sallah ram! Most of the churches you know today deviated or originated from the Catholic church in some way or simply copied a few things etc Protestant Church... etc. they all have reverends or Bishops or choirs

Bigcowhorn:
Lol, I didn't even see this.

Small Victor na me you dey cause. And you wonder why i no donate for your gonorrhea treatment. Do you understand now?

Issokay you will catch another clap soon enough or 10k problem go find you then i will visit the thread wey go follow. On that day you know say i be correct bastard.

Keep making mouth.

bad man

Bigcowhorn:
The church of Satan certainly doesn't worship on Sunday of do Easter and it is just one of many ni. I already mentioned the Sabbath Church for you ni. Stop mistaking me for a dumb ram



Catholic do not represent all Christians and Christians started worshipping on Sundays before the Catholic ( declared) it as the day of worship it's clear from the Bible verses I gave you and I can give you more,


There you go again thinking i am a sallah ram! Most of the churches you know today deviated or originated from the Catholic church in some way or simply copied a few things etc Protestant Church... etc. they all have reverends or Bishops or choirs

I gave you Bible references to back up my claims didn't I?
I told you Sunday worship existed long long before the Catholic Church came to be, or is it that Catholic Church that set up the Lord's Day that were observed by all Christians during thy days of the apostles? no

So I really don't get the point, worshipping on the first day of the week didn't start with the Catholics

jimyjames:
I gave you Bible references to back up my claims didn't I?
I told you Sunday worship existed long long before the Catholic Church came to be, or is it that Catholic Church that set up the Lord's Day that were observed by all Christians during thy days of the apostles? no

So I really don't get the point, worshipping on the first day of the week didn't start with the Catholics

I don't know of any church founded by an apostle that survived the Roman empire. Do you?

The catholic church was the only one supposedly founded Peter and it tolerated no rivals for hundreds of years. I copied no one but executed any who did not stand by its doctrine.

Bigcowhorn:
I don't know of any church founded by an apostle that survived the Roman empire. Do you?

The catholic church was the only one supposedly founded Peter and it tolerated no rivals for hundreds of years. I copied no one but executed any who did not stand by its doctrine.

Catholic Church surviving Roman Empire or whatever is not what we are discussing here,
but (Sunday worship), which I told you it started way back before the Catholic came to be,
Immediately after christ's resurrection, the Lord's Day
( Sunday, the first day of the week) worship began and the apostles observed the seventh day Sabbath day of rest, but still gathered together on the first day, the Lord's Day to worship,
Another example
This is John worshipping on Sunday

Revelation 1:10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

And I gave you another example of this too
Acts 20:7 And upon the first day of the week, when the disciples came together to break bread, Paul preached unto them, ready to depart on the morrow; and continued his speech until midnight.

Sunday worship was already there

jimyjames:
Sunday worship was already there

But was it copied? Can you say for sure? You just assumed that since it was already there cos the apostles made Sunday a congregation day seeing as Christ rose form death on that day so must have continued.

In Christianity as you know - sorry you are not a christaiin - as we know it today doesn't worship on Sunday cos Jesus rose on Sunday. No. We worship and do no work cos we see it as the Sabbath day on which God rested from all his work of creation period. On that rest day we also sing hymns to God just like the angels did on the very first sabbath...



Songs of praise the angels sang,
heaven with alleluias rang,
when creation was begun,
when God spake and it was done.


The day we worship and mark as the 'Lord's day', the special Sunday when Christ cheated death is Easter Sunday. not every Sunday!


The date and period for Easter Sunday was actually set by the Roman Catholic church centuries ago and the world celebrates it still..... even you!

Bigcowhorn:
Lol

Amatarasha you dey hear so

i heard him quite alright

Bigcowhorn:
But was it copied? Can you say for sure? You just assumed that since it was already there cos the apostles made Sunday a congregation day seeing as Christ rose form death on that day so must have continued.

In Christianity as you know - sorry you are not a christaiin - as we know it today doesn't worship on Sunday cos Jesus rose on Sunday. No. We worship and do no work cos we see it as the Sabbath day on which God rested from all his work of creation period. On that rest day we also sing hymns to God just like the angels did on the very first sabbath...



Songs of praise the angels sang,
heaven with alleluias rang,
when creation was begun,
when God spake and it was done.


The day we worship and mark as the 'Lord's day', the special Sunday when Christ cheated death is Easter Sunday. not every Sunday!


The date and period for Easter Sunday was actually set by the Roman Catholic church centuries ago and the world celebrates it still..... even you!

Am not (assuming) it's there in the Bible that the apostles worshiped on Sundays too, and it (continued) as the gospel was spreading everywhere, to the point that Christians gradually abandoned the (Sabbath) day,
if you read the Bible well you will know that half of what is written in the new testament that has to do with how Christians should conduct themselves is written by Paul, and he is the reason Christianity was spread to places like Rome even before Peter went there

And Paul clearly stated that Christians are not under the law anymore so Christians shouldn't live like people not under the law,

Colossians 2:16 Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:

Romans 14:5 One person decides that one day is holier than another. Another person decides that all days are the same. Every person must make his own decision.

Christians don't worship on Sunday cause they believe is the Sabbath, cause you choose to follow the law you must do everything that's in the law just like it's done Judaism till date,

Paul said Galatians 3:10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse; for it is written, Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.

Galatians 5:4 Those of you who try to earn God's approval by obeying his laws have been cut off from Christ. You have fallen out of God's favor.


Galatians 2:21 I don't reject God's kindness. If we receive God's approval by obeying laws, then Christ's death was pointless.


So if you Christians still practice the Sabbath why have the Christians abandoned the rest of the commandments of the law

jimyjames:
Am not (assuming) it's there in the Bible that the apostles worshiped on Sundays too, and it (continued) as the gospel was spreading everywhere, to the point that Christians gradually abandoned the (Sabbath) day,
if you read the Bible well you will know that half of what is written in the new testament that has to do with how Christians should conduct themselves is written by Paul, and he is the reason Christianity was spread to places like Rome even before Peter went there

And Paul clearly stated that Christians are not under the law anymore so Christians shouldn't live like people not under the law,

Christians don't worship on Sunday cause they believe is the Sabbath, cause you choose to follow the law you must do everything that's in the law just like it's done Judaism till date,

So if you Christians still practice the Sabbath why have the Christians abandoned the rest of the commandments of the law

The problem with you is that you do not go to church but nairaland so you don't know much about anything Christain but think you do.


1. Paul wrote a lot of things and visited a lot of cities in God's name but, according to Papal history it is peter who established the Roman Catholic Church

2. The apostles and everybody's brother in Israel may have gone to church on Sunday but cos Jesus rose on that day but that is not how it is now. Sunday is just our Sabbath.

3. At the balded above. That free will to abandon any part of the law is the reason you are not God today. You are exploiting the total freedom god gave humanity


Enjoy!

Bigcowhorn:
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The problem with you is that you do not go to church but nairaland so you don't know much about anything Christain but think you do.


1. Paul wrote a lot of things and visited a lot of cities in God's name but, according to Papal history it is peter who established the Roman Catholic Church

2. The apostles and everybody's brother in Israel may have gone to church on Sunday but cos Jesus rose on that day but that is not how it is now. Sunday is just our Sabbath.

3. At the balded above. That free will to abandon any part of the law is the reason you are not God today. You are exploiting the total freedom god gave humanity


Enjoy!

Hmm well let's just leave it there but I know what am talking about,
And am not in anyway talking about who established the Catholic Church

Am talking about Sunday worship and how it all started
there is more to the Sabbath day than you think it is,

I learned all these things back than when I was a devoted born again Christian for 3 yrs

I wonder why you keep talking about Peter founding Catholic Church, it's true yes but how Peter lived and practiced his Christianity is completely different from what is done in Catholic , Peter never worship on Sunday cause he believed it was the Sabbath, he did it
as the Lord's Day, Peter never prayed to merry to intercede for his sins or sinners, all this Popes forbidden to marry wasn't Peters doctrine Peter was married

The Sabbath was on the 7th day and it came with a lot of laws to obey on that day, something as simple as lighting a fire was forbidden on the Sabbath even to cook you are to cook on the sixth day and eat on the Sabbath
But now Christians have the freedom in Christ Jesus to worship on any day they want its not a law that you must worship on Sunday else is a sin (no) any day anytime is fit for worship as a Christian, worshipping on the Sabbath was a command by God, worshipping on Sunday was a free will in Christ Jesus

I can open my Church today and decide that we will worship on Friday it's not a sin it will be acceptable everyday is holy and fit for worship, right from my first comment to khi..aa thats what I pointed out

Thanks bro

jimyjames:
Hmm well let's just leave it there but I know what am talking about,
And am not in anyway talking about who established the Catholic Church

Am talking about Sunday worship and how it all started
there is more to the Sabbath day than you think it is,

I learned all these things back than when I was a devoted born again Christian for 3 yrs

I wonder why you keep talking about Peter founding Catholic Church, it's true yes but how Peter lived and practiced his Christianity is completely different from what is done in Catholic , Peter never worship on Sunday cause he believed it was the Sabbath, he did it
as the Lord's Day, Peter never prayed to merry to intercede for his sins or sinners, all this Popes forbidden to marry wasn't Peters doctrine Peter was married

The Sabbath was on the 7th day and it came with a lot of laws to obey on that day, something as simple as lighting a fire was forbidden on the Sabbath even to cook you are to cook on the sixth day and eat on the Sabbath
But now Christians have the freedom in Christ Jesus to worship on any day they want its not a law that you must worship on Sunday else is a sin (no) any day anytime is fit for worship as a Christian, worshipping on the Sabbath was a command by God, worshipping on Sunday was a free will in Christ Jesus

I can open my Church today and decide that we will worship on Friday it's not a sin it will be acceptable everyday is holy and fit for worship, right from my first comment to khi..aa thats what I pointed out

Thanks bro

St. Peter never set foot in Rome. Paul did.

Bigcowhorn:
St. Peter never set foot in Rome. Paul did.

Well I don't know if he went or not cause it's not recorded in the Bible even though traditionally it's believed he was executed in Rome, I can't talk about that, whether he went or not Paul went there before him
The things am talking about are all in the Bible

I told you before Paul is apostles that did most of the traveling and almost half of the Christians doctrines in the Bible new testament were written by Paul

jimyjames:
Well I don't know if he went or not cause it's not recorded in the Bible even though traditionally it's believed he was executed in Rome, I can't talk about that, whether he went or not Paul went there before him
The things am talking about are all in the Bible

I told you before Paul is apostles that did most of the traveling and almost half of the Christians doctrines in the Bible new testament were written by Paul

Seems like you like to preach. You got the mentality of those pastors that like preaching same topic to people over and over again, regardless of whether those people have the knowledge or not....

All these verses and theory you dey quote I suppose you feel i no get bible or know am?

Bigcowhorn:
Seems like you like to preach. You got the mentality of those pastors that like preaching same topic to people over and over again, regardless of whether those people have the knowledge or not....

All these verses and theory you dey quote I suppose you feel i no get bible or know am?

am not a preacher bro
I know you have a Bible that's why I gave Bible references for you to check them up

Even though I don't go to church anymore, a long time ago as a born again Christian I did a lot of Bible studies, within 3 yrs I had a deep knowledge of it, the reason I don't go to church is because most of these pastors preach a fake doctrine that's not biblical

There was a time I debated the knowledge of the Bible with 3 different pastors
that made me study the Bible the more just to argue with them I kept going to them to argue with them and it went on for 3 months

jimyjames:
am not a preacher bro
I know you have a Bible that's why I gave Bible references for you to check them up

Even though I don't go to church anymore, a long time ago as a born again Christian I did a lot of Bible studies, within 3 yrs I had a deep knowledge of it, the reason I don't go to church is because most of these pastors preach a fake doctrine that's not biblical

There was a time I debated the knowledge of the Bible with 3 different pastors
that made me study the Bible the more just to argue with them I kept going to them to argue with them and it went on for 3 months

Why am I not surprised. Even if you are the last man on earth and death comes calling to bring relief you will argue.

Bigcowhorn:
Why am I not surprised. Even if you are the last man on earth and death comes calling to bring relief you will argue.

I can argue about all things but when it comes to death, I completely agree that we all must die eventually the most important thing is to die well, die Fufiled