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Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 4:55pm On Aug 25, 2019
budaatum:
I understand the above to mean, one should not claim the Kingdom of God is like this or like that.
As in, buda, do not claim your own understanding is the limit of knowledge, and intellect, and talents, and abilities and skills and efforts and desires and blessings and grace.
I can live with this summation, because the claim obviously is making a false misrepresentation, painting a wrong picture and misleading self and others with it

budaatum:
A false misrepresentation of God is one that sees not one's neighbours.
False misrepresentation of God can be of the fraudulent, negligence and ignorance innocence form. Your mentioned Matthew 25:45 Bible verse, is a right candidate of a false misrepresentation of God that falls under the negligence category
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by budaatum: 4:57pm On Aug 25, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Angels, even if they try till the cows come home, are incapable of doing what the Holy Spirit did with Mary

Angels havent got the power to do this.
How do you know what powers angels have or don't have?

MuttleyLaff:
Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, and if so,
Do I sound like 2? Did you not read Ranchhoddas insulting my skirt? Who are you "is, if soing" with? Are you assuming Abduls?

MuttleyLaff:
Fyi, Nephilims, in them days were ubiquitous, their gene even survives to our present and modern day, so if Jesus is a begotten Son of God, then Jesus couldnt be a Nephilim, if they have existed before and still exist after Jesus' birth
Yes muttley. You were there, seeing what the Nephilims, in them days were capable of.

MuttleyLaff:
budaatum, are you conversant with what the phrase "begotten Son of God" means, hmm? Would you care to share what your understanding of "begotten" in that phrase is, hmm?
Ask this when you comprehend what I have already shared on my conversantness of the phrase "begotten Son of God".
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by sonmvayina(m): 4:59pm On Aug 25, 2019
budaatum:

It is for those who proclaim in their heart that there is one God and Jesus is the Messiah.

That's how it was by his time.

Wonder what its become in our time!

God promised to send the Jews a Messiah, what did God say the Messiah was coming to accomplish?.. How where they supposed to recognize him when he comes.... Did God ever asked them to believe in the death of the Messiah before he forgives them?...

What are the messianic prophesies and which did Jesus fulfill?... Please enlighten me.. I will patiently wait..because I have read all the messianic prophesies and I don't see how Jesus fits in?..

Amos3 :7 says "God does nothing without first revealing it to his prophet"

Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing
without revealing his plan
to his servants the prophets... GNB
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by budaatum: 5:07pm On Aug 25, 2019
sonmvayina:


God promised to send the Jews a Messiah, what did God say the Messiah was coming to accomplish?.. How where they supposed to recognize him when he comes.... Did God ever asked them to believe in the death of the Messiah before he forgives them?...

What are the messianic prophesies and which did Jesus fulfill?... Please enlighten me.. I will patiently wait..because I have read all the messianic prophesies and I don't see how Jesus fits in?..

Amos3 :7 says "God does nothing without first revealing it to his prophet"

Surely the Sovereign Lord does nothing
without revealing his plan
to his servants the prophets... GNB
So, you have seen nothing Messianic in Christ and want me to use my own resources to go and seek for understanding for you and on your behalf?

Why? Are special or will you pay me?

Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 5:35pm On Aug 25, 2019
budaatum:
How do you know what powers angels have or don't have?
I know from the Bible what powers the angels have and dont have. Impregnating female human beings isnt one of the powers they have budaatum. Even if angels try very hard to impregnate female human being, they cant, because they are not flesh and bones, and if they arent flesh and bones, that means, at the very least, they havent got a penìs to fornicate with

budaatum:
Do I sound like 2? Did you not read Ranchhoddas insulting my skirt? Who are you "is, if soing" with? Are you assuming Abduls?
Ranchhoddas, as I do, hold you in high regard, so I wouldnt, if I were you make a fuss of whatever Ranchhoddas affectionately types about you

budaatum:
Yes muttley. You were there, seeing what the Nephilims, in them days were capable of.
There is no point getting defensive and getting the hump, over information that simply and clearly can be read from the pages of the Bible by anyone that has access to one.

budaatum:
Ask this when you comprehend what I have already shared on my conversantness of the phrase "begotten Son of God".
budaatum, I wont like OLAADEGBU dare accuse you of pride, so fyi, the begotten word in that, the "begotten Son of God" phrase, is the Greek word "monogenes" and the word, when defined, is related to something controlled by a single gene.

The point made with this, is that, Jesus is called the "begotten Son of God" because Jesus is unique, Jesus is one of a kind. Jesus' birth, is one-and-only. Jesus is monogenic, as Jesus literally is, "one" (i.e. monos) of a class, and "genos" (i.e. the only of the kind). There has being no other birth before and after, like Jesus', which is why Jesus is the "begotten Son of God" and Nephilims are not because they've being around before and after Jesus, their gene even survived the flood and remnant of the gene exists with us today
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by budaatum: 5:38pm On Aug 25, 2019
MuttleyLaff:

The point made with this, is that Jesus is called the "begotten Son of God" because Jesus is unique, Jesus is one of a kind. Jesus is one-and-only. Jesus is monogenic. Jesus literally is, "one" (i.e. monos) of a class, and "genos" (i.e. the only of the kind). There has being no other birth before and after, like Jesus', which is why Jesus is the "begotten Son of God" and Nephilims are not because they being around before and after Jesus
Ergo, Muttley is unique, one of a kind, the "begotten Son of God".
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 5:43pm On Aug 25, 2019
budaatum:
Ergo, Muttley is unique, one of a kind, the "begotten Son of God".
Everyone, in their own right is unique, but there is only one true unique Son of God, whom is Jesus Christ. Jesus is the "begotten Son of God", not MuttleyLaff and neither budaatum. Do not covet and do not make false representation
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by budaatum: 5:52pm On Aug 25, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Everyone, in their own right is unique, but there is only one true unique Son of God, whom is Jesus Christ. Jesus is the "begotten Son of God", not MuttleyLaff and neither budaatum. Do not covet and do not make false representation
Before assuming concern for the judging of me, perhaps work on your own forest please! My own neighbours are all unique, and seeing that uniqueness is how I do for my Lord Jesus the Son of God who is in heaven whom you see not.

I am buda the child of Basorun, and you are unique, so I neither covet nor misrepresent.
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by rosy1992(f): 6:00pm On Aug 25, 2019
Nephilims are giants which were offspring of the fallen angels.
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 6:08pm On Aug 25, 2019
budaatum:
Before assuming concern for the judging of me, perhaps work on your own forest please! My own neighbours are all unique, and seeing that uniqueness is how I do for my Lord Jesus the Son of God who is in heaven whom you see not.
I have no need nor desire to judge you. I've earlier on, agreed with you that every human being, in their own rights, are unique. Their uniqueness is not on the same par as the uniqueness of Jesus Christ is, especially in regards of the term "begotten," as in,"monogenes" using the original Greek word. "Ko ma dafun" fake knowledge and false representation angry angry angry

budaatum:
I am buda the child of Basorun and you are unique so I do not covet nor misrepresent.
I have no qualms with you being buda the child of Basorun, but far from it, your claim that MuttleyLaff is unique, one of a kind, the "begotten Son of God"

The word "begotten" as in, the Greek word "monogenes", is used for and used for only one person ever and that is Jesus Christ. Biko, jor.
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 6:12pm On Aug 25, 2019
rosy1992:
Nephilims are giants which were offspring of the fallen angels.
Nephilims are giants but they werent ever offspring of the fallen angels. Fallen angels impregnating female human beings is a fable, a fictitious tale told and popularised way back as early as the first century
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by budaatum: 6:17pm On Aug 25, 2019
MuttleyLaff:

but far from it, your claim that MuttleyLaff is unique, one of a kind, the "begotten Son of God"
Shine your eye muttley then look in the mirror.
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by sonmvayina(m): 6:20pm On Aug 25, 2019
budaatum:

So, you have seen nothing Messianic in Christ and want me to use my own resources to go and seek for understanding for you and on your behalf?

Why? Are special or will you pay me?

You have not answered my question...how is Jesus relevant to anything?... Me think he is just an Idol created to distract people from God.. Making them disobey God's laws..
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 6:41pm On Aug 25, 2019
budaatum:
Shine your eye muttley then look in the mirror.
I have shined my eyes. I always shine my eyes. Even when crying, pesin still dey see road nau.

budaatum when you look in a mirror, the face you see and that beholds you is a unique representation face of you. Same thing, when MuttleyLaff, looks in a mirror, the face MuttleyLaff sees and that beholds MuttleyLaff is a unique representation MuttleyLaff's face.

budaatum, you are conflating "monogenes" with "gennao." Jesus is "monogenes", budaatum, MuttleyLaff and any other human beings are "gennao" angry angry angry

Everywhere you search in the Bible budaatum, you will find that it is only Jesus Christ who is referrred to as "begotten" or "monogenes" of God and no other person but Him alone. Give it a rest guv'nor, biko, jor.
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by orunto27: 6:42pm On Aug 25, 2019
OLAADEGBU:


Can you differentiate between the rod in the hands of Moses and the rods in the hands of Pharaoh's magicians? undecided

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The Difference now is J.C.

At the time of Moses, the difference then was an Instruction from I AM THAT I AM sent Moses.
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by sonmvayina(m): 6:48pm On Aug 25, 2019
orunto27:
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The Difference now is J.C.

At the time of Moses, the difference then was an Instruction from I AM THAT I AM sent Moses.

That's is the part I don't understand.. How is Jesus relevant to anything? Did God ever say he was going to send his son? Did God have a son? Isaiah 45:4-5

For the sake of Jacob my servant,
of Israel my chosen,
I summon you by name
and bestow on you a title of honor,
though you do not acknowledge me.
5 I am the Lord, and there is no other;
apart from me there is no God.
I will strengthen you,
though you have not
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by sonmvayina(m): 7:24pm On Aug 25, 2019
orunto27:
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The Difference now is J.C.

At the time of Moses, the difference then was an Instruction from I AM THAT I AM sent Moses.

Isaiah 45:1-7
“This is what the Lord says to his anointed,
to Cyrus, whose right hand I take hold of
to subdue nations before him
and to strip kings of their armor,
to open doors before him
so that gates will not be shut:
2 I will go before you
and will level the mountains[a];
I will break down gates of bronze
and cut through bars of iron.
3 I will give you hidden treasures,
riches stored in secret places,
so that you may know that I am the Lord,
the God of Israel, who summons you by name.
4 For the sake of Jacob my servant,
of Israel my chosen,
I summon you by name
and bestow on you a title of honor,
though you do not acknowledge me.
5 I am the Lord, and there is no other;
apart from me there is no God.
I will strengthen you,
though you have not acknowledged me,
6 so that from the rising of the sun
to the place of its setting
people may know there is none besides me.
I am the Lord, and there is no other.
7 I form the light and create darkness,
I bring prosperity and create disaster;
I, the Lord, do all these things.


Are you certain, it is this God you are referring to.. Or another one like Zeus, who had children by human beings.... Because the God of the Jews don't do adultery... He forbids it..
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by budaatum: 9:39pm On Aug 25, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
I have shined my eyes. I always shine my eyes. Even when crying, pesin still dey see road nau.

budaatum when you look in a mirror, the face you see and that beholds you is a unique representation face of you. Same thing, when MuttleLaff, looks in a mirror, the face MuttleyLff sees and that beholds MuttleyLaff is a unique representation MuttleyLaff's face.

budaatum, you are conflating "monogenes" with "gennao." Jesus is "monogenes", budaatum, MuttleyLaff and any other human beings are "gennao" angry angry angry

Everywhere you search in the Bible budaatum, you will find that it is only Jesus Christ who is referrred to as "begotten" or "monogenes" and no other person but Him alone. Give it a rest guv'nor, biko, jor.

Why would buda look only in the Bible muttley?
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by budaatum: 9:41pm On Aug 25, 2019
sonmvayina:


You have not answered my question...how is Jesus relevant to anything?... Me think he is just an Idol created to distract people from God.. Making them disobey God's laws..
You think Jesus is an idol that is. not relevant to anything. Why should anyone ask you to think more?
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 10:43pm On Aug 25, 2019
budaatum:
Why would buda look only in the Bible muttley?
Smh beard grows, head doesn't grow wiser, "ase" wise only in appearance "ni". angry angry angry
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by budaatum: 10:47pm On Aug 25, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
Smh beard grows, head doesn't grow wiser, "ase" wise only in appearance "ni". angry angry angry
Amujale:

Anyone that wants to know about history ought to enrol into a place of learning and choose History as their major course of study or read history textbooks authored by genuine historians.

They came before Columbus by Ivan Sertima is a history textbook.

African People in World History by J. Hendrik Clarke is a history textbook.

A History of the African-Olmecs: Black Civilisations of America from Prehistoric Times to the Present Era by Paul Barton is a history textbook.

The African Origin of Civilisation by Cheikh Anta Diop is a history textbook.

Not Out of Greece: African Origin of Western Civilization by RA UN NEFER AMEN is a history textbook.

Abrahamic religious text are full of fakery and falsities, arent history related.

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Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by EMILO2STAY(m): 10:56pm On Aug 25, 2019
sonmvayina:


That is what the people that came to enslave your ancestors told them.... Well, it is a lie..

Or you think white people don't lie?
lol this joke of white men enslaving blacks with the bible is stale nahh..you should be more informed than this.
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by sonmvayina(m): 10:57pm On Aug 25, 2019
budaatum:

You think Jesus is an idol that is. not relevant to anything. Why should anyone ask you to think more?

God has already given us the solution to everything in the old testament.... I don't see any question that jesus is the answer to.... Really.
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 10:58pm On Aug 25, 2019
budaatum, kindly don't embalm comments from me in other people's yadayada.

My eyes refuse to work so hard on your behalf! angry angry angry
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by EMILO2STAY(m): 11:01pm On Aug 25, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
The Nephilim were already existing before the sons of God started fairking the daughters of men

Hmm, OK, will give you that, albeit, none of these angels, have flesh and bones, and because of not having a penìs wont have the ability to impregnate female human beings. It is only the Holy Spirit, if it is to fall on any female human being, will get her pregnant. Angels havent got the power to do this.

Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, and if so, then Jesus by virtue and status of being the begotten Son of God, automatically disqualifies Jesus, ever being a Nephilim. It unceremoniously cancels out Jesus, from being a Nephilim.

Fyi, Nephilims, in them days were ubiquitous, their gene even survives to our present and modern day, so if Jesus is a begotten Son of God, then Jesus couldnt be a Nephilim, if they have existed before and still exist after Jesus' birth

budaatum, are you conversant with what the phrase "begotten Son of God" means, hmm? Would you care to share what your understanding of "begotten" in that phrase is, hmm?

Angels, even if they try till the cows come home, are incapable of doing what the Holy Spirit did with Mary

Somebori please give my guy, sonmvayina, an "oti sẹwọn" chilled cold bottle of orijin and a truckload of kolanuts.

sonmvayina, in this respect, hasnt twisted the Bible

It is true, the Bible maybe twisted, and twisting is allowed, if or when, one wants to squeeze out or get more understanding, out of twisting the Bible. The caveat and/or warning is, when twisting the Bible, make sure you dont end up with making a graven image of God. Do not end up twisting the Bible to give a false picture of God. Do not let the twisting the Bible lead to a false misrepresentation of God. Do not twist the scripture to mislead others.
cc Bodydialect57

some of you just like complicating simple things. The bible made it clear the nephilim were as a result of angels and humans sleeping together. Yet you guys are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.

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Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by sonmvayina(m): 11:01pm On Aug 25, 2019
EMILO2STAY:
lol this joke of white men enslaving blacks with the bible is stale nahh..you should be more informed than this.

Were we not following our own heritage and progressing at our own pace,..

We knew what God is and is not..

Now we worship a dead jew as God, with no iota of evidence that he even existed..

We are the only people on planet earth that worships a God that does not look like us.. Metaphorical speaking..
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by budaatum: 11:05pm On Aug 25, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
budaatum, kindly don't embalm comments from me in other people's yadayada.

My eyes refuse to work so hard on your behalf! angry angry angry
That was not "embalming" muttley. It was an intelligent response that someone prepared for me in response to you.
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by EMILO2STAY(m): 11:12pm On Aug 25, 2019
sonmvayina:


Were we not following our own heritage and progressing at our own pace,..

We knew what God is and is not..

Now we worship a dead jew as God, with no iota of evidence that he even existed..

We are the only people on planet earth that worships a God that does not look like us.. Metaphorical speaking..
you sound like an ignorant kid. We were killing twins and burying humans alive along with dead kings before christianity. We were worshipping idols we didn't know the true God, the evidence of christ is rife, the Christian religion being one of the major. Who told you the painting of Jesus is the true face of christ?.
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 11:29pm On Aug 25, 2019
budaatum:
That was not "embalming" muttley. It was an intelligent response that someone prepared for me in response to you.
What goes around comes around. When I need your opinion on what is "embalming" and even what's "intelligent response" I'll ask you angry angry angry
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 11:30pm On Aug 25, 2019
EMILO2STAY:
some of you just like complicating simple things. The bible made it clear the nephilim were as a result of angels and humans sleeping together. Yet you guys are trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill.
I dont know where and how from, in the Bible, you've got misled to believe in that fable and fictitious story. Man always have an innate desire to propagate tittle-tattle, cőck and bull story that angels and humans sleeping together. Butter nobi monkey food. Who dash monkey angels banana
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by EMILO2STAY(m): 11:34pm On Aug 25, 2019
MuttleyLaff:
I dont know where and how from in the Bible, you've being mislead to believe in that fable and fictitious story. Man always have an innate desire to propagate tittle-tattle, cőck and bull story that angels and humans sleeping together. Butter nobi monkey food.

well if you don't believe that is your problem. The evidence this begins existed is around us today. All this goes to confirm the bible. So if you are forming wise man by not believing that is your problem.
Re: Nephilim And Sons Of God: Who Are They? by MuttleyLaff: 12:15am On Aug 26, 2019
EMILO2STAY:
well if you don't believe that is your problem. The evidence this begins existed is around us today. All this goes to confirm the bible. So if you are forming wise man by not believing that is your problem.
Why would I believe a slander? Dont people have no shame in believing in this slander ni, erhn? Now tell me, what's being gained and/or achieved with this cőck and bull story that angels and humans slept together belief, hmm?

Dont you know that "thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour," the eighth commandment, forbids speaking falsely in any matter, and you're in any way, not to speak unjustly against your neighbor, especially to the prejudice of his/her reputation. In fact, lying, especially when devised and designed to slander your neighbor, whether an angelic celestial being or not is a total no-no

EMILO2STAY:
well if you don't believe that is your problem. The evidence this begins existed is around us today. All this goes to confirm the bible.
Where is the evidence, what is your evidence, put it out then, let's see if it will stand up. Let's see if your cőck and bull story that angels and humans slept together belief will remain valid after a close scrutiny, critical review and/or detailed analysis, erhn?

EMILO2STAY:
So if you are forming wise man by not believing that is your problem.
Yes I am forming wise man, in not believing a fabled cőck and bull story that angels and humans slept together. It is called conformity of the mind to the fact(s) and it isnt a problem.

The best thing about forming wise man is Wisdom herself. Good sense is more important than anything else, a multitude of the wise is the health of the world. "Wisdom is the principal thing; therefore get wisdom: and with all thy getting get understanding", so says Proverbs 4:7 and Proverbs 3:13 corroborates, by saying: "Blessed is the man who finds wisdom, the man who acquires understanding," so what's your problem, with any forming wise man, huh?

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