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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Maximus85(m): 6:31pm On Oct 24, 2019
Ken4Christ:
JW members who have been indoctrinated are difficult to convert. They have been trained to ignore the truth and follow their deceptive teachings. The worst of their teachings is the denial of the existence of hell which is clearly revealed in the Bible. I wish they could see the doom that awaits them. Please, give your life to Jesus. He is the only way to God. Otherwise, you will face his wrath.

"For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand?". (Revelation 6:17).

The OP said Jesus is God. His supporter is saying Jesus is the way to God. OK, continue!

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 7:13pm On Oct 24, 2019
Maximus85:


The OP said Jesus is God. His supporter is saying Jesus is the way to God. OK, continue!

Jesus is God!
Jesus is the way to God! embarassed
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 9:15pm On Oct 24, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
www.livingwaters.com

"How can one witness to a Jehovah's Witness? They know so much about the bible and even revered Jesus but they don't believe that Jesus is God." Rocio Soto

I make it a habit not to try and convince a Jehovah's Witness that Jesus is God in human form. There are two reasons for this.

The first is that they have their own version of the Bible that removes references to the true nature of Jesus.

Second, when Jesus asked Peter "Who do you say that I am?" Jesus said to him that flesh and blood hadn't revealed that truth to him, but "my Father who is in Heaven." God is the one who reveals who Jesus is, so I leave that up to Him.



Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 11 May 2014

This same write up in crosswalk.com is where OLAADEGBU lifted his fable ,
"There's a knife in my back and I have three minutes to live"

Plagiarists everywhere !!!!
CC: Maximus69.

OLAADEGBU FRAUD theorist, what is " the true nature of Jesus" which the Father in heaven revealed to Simon Peter?
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 9:21pm On Oct 24, 2019
Ken4Christ:


The worst of their teachings is the denial of the existence of hell which is clearly revealed in the Bible.
.
Apostle of hellfire ,where did God punish the first pair of sinners ,Adam and Eve?
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 10:25pm On Oct 24, 2019
johnw47:


Father calling Jesus "God" torments you greatly, it goes against what your mob tells you to believe
and so you change God's word in favour of satan's word

you change "Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever"
to: "God is thy throne for ever and ever"
and all to deny the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ:

Heb 1:8  But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. 
Heb 1:9  Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.



Mumu Pharisees Johnw FRAUD, your 'God' was anointed by his Supreme God, Heb1:9.
Your fellow Trinitarians have confirmed Johnw FRAUD theorist is a LIAR.
Read the 10 EVIDENCES here @1 to **@10)
@1.
Also, if we look at some respected
trinitarian authorities, we also see a
preference for the “God is thy throne”
rendering.
Oxford professor and famous trinitarian
Bible translator, Dr. James Moffatt, has
been described as “probably the greatest
biblical scholar of our day.” His respected
Bible translation renders Heb. 1:8 as:
“ God is thy throne for ever and ever.”

2)*
University of Cambridge professor and
noted New Testament language scholar, Dr.
C. F. D. Moule writes that Heb. 1:8 may be
“construed so as to mean Thy throne is
God” - p. 32, An Idiom Book of New
Testament Greek, Cambridge University
Press, 1990 printing.

**3)
An American Translation (Smith-
Goodspeed), renders it: “God is your
throne....”
And The Bible in Living English (Byington)
reads: “God is your throne....”
The Message reads: “ Your throne is God’s
throne….”
NSB - God is your throne
Mace - "God is thy throne ….”
Twentieth Century Translation - ‘ God is thy
throne….’

**(4)**
Another world-acclaimed scholar of
trinitarian Christendom has translated this
verse similarly and made some interesting
comments. Trinitarian Dr. William Barclay,
“world-renowned Scottish New Testament
interpreter, was noted as a profound
scholar and a writer of extraordinary gifts
.... He was the minister of Trinity Church,
Renfrew, Scotland, and, later, Professor of
Divinity and Biblical Criticism at the
University of Glasgow.”
Dr. Barclay, in his translation of the New
Testament, has also rendered Hebrews 1:8
as : “ God is your throne for ever and ever.”


***(5)**
Noted trinitarian (Southern Baptist) New
Testament Greek scholar Dr. A. T.
Robertson acknowledges that either “God is thy throne”/“thy throne is God” may be proper renderings:
“Either makes good sense.” - p. 339, Word
Pictures in the New Testament .Broadman
Press, 1960.-

***(6)
The American Standard Version (ASV), the
Revised Standard Version (RSV), the New
Revised Standard Version (NRSV), and The
New English Bible (NEB) have provided
alternate readings to the traditional
trinitarian rendering of the KJV at Hebrews
1:8. These alternate readings (found in
footnotes) agree with Dr. Moffatt’s, Dr.
Barclay’s, Smith-Goodspeed’s, Byington’s,
and the New World Translation ’s renderings
of this scripture (“ God is your throne ”).

****(7)**
Even Young’s Concise Bible Commentary
(written by the famous trinitarian author of
Young’s Analytical Concordance to the
Bible) admits: “[Heb. 1:8] may be justly
rendered ‘ God is thy throne ...’ in either
case it is applicable to the mediatorial
throne only.”

**(cool**
Quoted From Ps. 45*
In addition to these admissions by
trinitarian translators concerning Heb. 1:8,
we need to look back at the Old Testament
Hebrew scripture (Ps. 45:6) that Paul was
quoting when he wrote Heb. 1:8.
The RSV renders it as “Your Divine throne”
and a footnote provides this alternate
reading: “Or ‘your throne is a throne of
God.’”
The NEB says: “Your throne is like God’s
throne.”
The Holy Sc riptures (JPS version) says:
“Thy throne given of God.”
The Bible in Living English (Byington) says:
“God is your throne.”
New International Reader’s Version ( NIRV):
“ Your throne is the very throne of God.”
The Good News Bible (GNB), a very
trinitarian paraphrase Bible, renders it: “The
kingdom
that God has given you will last forever and
ever.”
The REB has: “God has enthroned you for
all eternity.”
The NJB gives us: “your throne is from
God.”
Leeser - Thy throne, given of God, endureth
for ever
We also see the following statement by
respected trinitarian scholars in a footnote
for this passage:
“45:6 . Possibly the king’s throne is
called God’s throne because he is God’s
appointed regent.
- Ps. 45:6 f.n. in the NIV Study Bible.
In addition to the above renderings by
many respected translators (most of whom
are trinitarian), we have the statement by
perhaps the greatest scholar of Biblical
Hebrew of all time, H. F. W. Gesenius. In
his famous and highly respected Hebrew
and Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament
Gesenius renders Ps. 45:6, “thy throne
shall be a divine throne.”

( **9)
Obviously, then, the charge sometimes
made that the NWT is “not being honest or
scholarly” with its rendering of Heb. 1:8 is
simply untrue, and it certainly may be
honestly translated “God is your throne
forever.”
Just the admission by so many trinitarian
translators (above) that Heb. 1:8 may be
honestly translated as it is in the NWT
makes any insistence by other trinitarians
that this scripture is acceptable evidence
for a trinity doctrine completely invalid!
Even famed Southern Baptist New
Testament Greek scholar Dr. A. T.
Robertson admits:
“: ‘ God is thy
throne’ or ‘Thy throne is God.’ Either makes
good sense .” - p. 339, Vol. 5, Word
Pictures in the New Testament , Broadman
Press, 1960.

@**10)
However, there is more evidence, evidence
which shows not only that Heb. 1:8 may be
honestly translated “God is your throne,”
but, indeed, should be so translated!
Notice the context. Heb. 1:8 and 1:9 are
being quoted from Ps. 45:6 and 45:7. In
Ps. 45:7, speaking to the Israelite king, it
says:
“Therefore God, your God, has anointed you
with the oil of gladness above your
fellows.” - RSV.
Just as this makes it clear that the ancient
Israelite king was not God but was anointed
by God, HIS God, to a position above his
fellows, so does Heb. 1:9, as figuratively
applied to Jesus, show that he is not God,
but was anointed by his God to a position
above his fellows! Context, then, shows that
the person addressed in Heb. 1:8 is not
God, but one who worships God and was
anointed by his God!"
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by johnw47: 11:27pm On Oct 24, 2019
Janosky:


Mumu Pharisees Johnw FRAUD, your 'God' was anointed by his Supreme God, Heb1:9.
Your fellow Trinitarians have confirmed Johnw FRAUD theorist is a LIAR.
Read the 10 EVIDENCES here @1 to **@10)
@1.
Also, if we look at some respected
trinitarian authorities, we also see a
preference for the “God is thy throne”
rendering.
Oxford professor and famous trinitarian
Bible translator, Dr. James Moffatt, has
been described as “probably the greatest
biblical scholar of our day.” His respected
Bible translation renders Heb. 1:8 as:
“ God is thy throne for ever and ever.”

2)*
University of Cambridge professor and
noted New Testament language scholar, Dr.
C. F. D. Moule writes that Heb. 1:8 may be
“construed so as to mean Thy throne is
God” - p. 32, An Idiom Book of New
Testament Greek, Cambridge University
Press, 1990 printing.

**3)
An American Translation (Smith-
Goodspeed), renders it: “God is your
throne....”
And The Bible in Living English (Byington)
reads: “God is your throne....”
The Message reads: “ Your throne is God’s
throne….”
NSB - God is your throne
Mace - "God is thy throne ….”
Twentieth Century Translation - ‘ God is thy
throne….’

**(4)**
Another world-acclaimed scholar of
trinitarian Christendom has translated this
verse similarly and made some interesting
comments. Trinitarian Dr. William Barclay,
“world-renowned Scottish New Testament
interpreter, was noted as a profound
scholar and a writer of extraordinary gifts
.... He was the minister of Trinity Church,
Renfrew, Scotland, and, later, Professor of
Divinity and Biblical Criticism at the
University of Glasgow.”
Dr. Barclay, in his translation of the New
Testament, has also rendered Hebrews 1:8
as : “ God is your throne for ever and ever.”


***(5)**
Noted trinitarian (Southern Baptist) New
Testament Greek scholar Dr. A. T.
Robertson acknowledges that either “God is thy throne”/“thy throne is God” may be proper renderings:
“Either makes good sense.” - p. 339, Word
Pictures in the New Testament .Broadman
Press, 1960.-

***(6)
The American Standard Version (ASV), the
Revised Standard Version (RSV), the New
Revised Standard Version (NRSV), and The
New English Bible (NEB) have provided
alternate readings to the traditional
trinitarian rendering of the KJV at Hebrews
1:8. These alternate readings (found in
footnotes) agree with Dr. Moffatt’s, Dr.
Barclay’s, Smith-Goodspeed’s, Byington’s,
and the New World Translation ’s renderings
of this scripture (“ God is your throne ”).

****(7)**
Even Young’s Concise Bible Commentary
(written by the famous trinitarian author of
Young’s Analytical Concordance to the
Bible) admits: “[Heb. 1:8] may be justly
rendered ‘ God is thy throne ...’ in either
case it is applicable to the mediatorial
throne only.”

**(cool**
Quoted From Ps. 45*
In addition to these admissions by
trinitarian translators concerning Heb. 1:8,
we need to look back at the Old Testament
Hebrew scripture (Ps. 45:6) that Paul was
quoting when he wrote Heb. 1:8.
The RSV renders it as “Your Divine throne”
and a footnote provides this alternate
reading: “Or ‘your throne is a throne of
God.’”
The NEB says: “Your throne is like God’s
throne.”
The Holy Sc riptures (JPS version) says:
“Thy throne given of God.”
The Bible in Living English (Byington) says:
“God is your throne.”
New International Reader’s Version ( NIRV):
“ Your throne is the very throne of God.”
The Good News Bible (GNB), a very
trinitarian paraphrase Bible, renders it: “The
kingdom
that God has given you will last forever and
ever.”
The REB has: “God has enthroned you for
all eternity.”
The NJB gives us: “your throne is from
God.”
Leeser - Thy throne, given of God, endureth
for ever
We also see the following statement by
respected trinitarian scholars in a footnote
for this passage:
“45:6 . Possibly the king’s throne is
called God’s throne because he is God’s
appointed regent.
- Ps. 45:6 f.n. in the NIV Study Bible.
In addition to the above renderings by
many respected translators (most of whom
are trinitarian), we have the statement by
perhaps the greatest scholar of Biblical
Hebrew of all time, H. F. W. Gesenius. In
his famous and highly respected Hebrew
and Chaldee Lexicon to the Old Testament
Gesenius renders Ps. 45:6, “thy throne
shall be a divine throne.”

( **9)
Obviously, then, the charge sometimes
made that the NWT is “not being honest or
scholarly” with its rendering of Heb. 1:8 is
simply untrue, and it certainly may be
honestly translated “God is your throne
forever.”
Just the admission by so many trinitarian
translators (above) that Heb. 1:8 may be
honestly translated as it is in the NWT
makes any insistence by other trinitarians
that this scripture is acceptable evidence
for a trinity doctrine completely invalid!
Even famed Southern Baptist New
Testament Greek scholar Dr. A. T.
Robertson admits:
“: ‘ God is thy
throne’ or ‘Thy throne is God.’ Either makes
good sense .” - p. 339, Vol. 5, Word
Pictures in the New Testament , Broadman
Press, 1960.

@**10)
However, there is more evidence, evidence
which shows not only that Heb. 1:8 may be
honestly translated “God is your throne,”
but, indeed, should be so translated!
Notice the context. Heb. 1:8 and 1:9 are
being quoted from Ps. 45:6 and 45:7. In
Ps. 45:7, speaking to the Israelite king, it
says:
“Therefore God, your God, has anointed you
with the oil of gladness above your
fellows.” - RSV.
Just as this makes it clear that the ancient
Israelite king was not God but was anointed
by God, HIS God, to a position above his
fellows, so does Heb. 1:9, as figuratively
applied to Jesus, show that he is not God,
but was anointed by his God to a position
above his fellows! Context, then, shows that
the person addressed in Heb. 1:8 is not
God, but one who worships God and was
anointed by his God!"

laughing

™lying pharisee deceiver false jw Janosky/OneJ

i have shown you the truth of heb 1:8-9
and you keep posting your long dictionary and men's words over God's word
making God a liar

the Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ doesn't sit on His Father, His Father is not a throne smiley
poor tormented mumu brain


Father called Lord Jesus: "God" and it so pains you, oh know nothing
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by brocab: 12:18am On Oct 26, 2019
And because you refuse to hear the Word of God, mocking it at your best-The Lord said:
{Matthew 7:6} Do not give what is holy to the dogs; nor cast your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet and turn and tear you in pieces.
{John 5:19} So Jesus replied, “Truly, truly, I tell you, the Son can do nothing by Himself, unless He sees the Father doing it. For whatever the Father does, the Son also does.
{So if the Father is the Creator-then the Word ''Jesus is also the Creator { John 1:1 }
God is the Creator-{Genesis 1:1. Job 33:4, Isaiah 40:28}
So if the Word of God claims God is: and if Jesus is one with His Father 'then He also is the Creator-{John 1:1-3, Colossians 1:12-17, Hebrews 1:8-12}
God is the first and last- {Isaiah 41:4, 44:6, 48:12}
The Word of God also tells us, Jesus is: the first and last-{Revelations 1:17, 2:8, 22:13}
God is-I AM- {Exodus 3: 13-14, Deutoronomy 32:39, Isaiah 43: 10}
Jesus is-I AM-{John 8:24, 58, 13:19, 18:5}
God is Judge-{Genesis 18:25, Psalm 96:13, Joel 3:12}
Jesus is the Judge-{2 Timothy 4:1, 2 Corinthians 5:10, Romans 14:10-12}
God is the King-{Psalm 47, 44:6-8, Jeremiah 10:10}
Jesus is the King of Kings-{Matthew 2:1-6, John 19:21, 1 Timothy 6:13-16}
God is Saviour-{Psalm 106:21, Isaiah 43:3,11, 45:21-23}
No one comes to the Father except through Me, Jesus is our Saviour-{John 4:42, Acts 4:10-12, 1 John 4:4}
God is the Shepherd-{Psalm 23, 100:3, Isaiah 40:11}
Jesus is our Shepherd-{John 10:11, Hebrews 13:20, 1 Peter 5:4}
And we may not forget-{John 14:6} Jesus said to him, “I AM the way, the TRUTH and the LIFE. No one comes to the FATHER except through ME.
Janosky:

If you know about spirituality, let's confirm...
If you really know Jesus Christ, who did Jesus say is "the only true God"?

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Uka15(m): 5:58am On Oct 26, 2019
OLAADEGBU:
www.livingwaters.com

"How can one witness to a Jehovah's Witness? They know so much about the bible and even revered Jesus but they don't believe that Jesus is God." Rocio Soto

I make it a habit not to try and convince a Jehovah's Witness that Jesus is God in human form. There are two reasons for this.

The first is that they have their own version of the Bible that removes references to the true nature of Jesus.

Second, when Jesus asked Peter "Who do you say that I am?" Jesus said to him that flesh and blood hadn't revealed that truth to him, but "my Father who is in Heaven." God is the one who reveals who Jesus is, so I leave that up to Him.

So you have two insurmountable hurdles if you argue doctrine with a JW. They move the goalposts, and they are spiritually blind.

The key to unlocking the door to them is to identify the real issue.

That issue is that JW's are a works righteousness religion. You can uncover this by saying, "There's a knife in my back and I have three minutes to live. What should I do to enter the Kingdom?" It's then that you will discover that they are trusting in works for their salvation rather than in the grace of God through Jesus Christ.

So you have to put them up the River Niagara without a paddle.

Strip them of their false hope. No one will be saved through good works or by being religious. The way to do that is to take them through the spiritual nature of God's Law (the Ten Commandments). Then share the biblical gospel with them--that we are saved by grace through faith alone (without works), and pray that God opens their eyes to the truth.

Once they are truly born again they will leave the Jehovah's Witnesses and become witness of Jesus Christ:

"But you shall receive power when the Holy Spirit has come upon you; and YOU SHALL BE WITNESS TO ME in Jerusalem, and in all Judea and Samaria, and to the end of the earth" Acts 1:8, caps added)

If you don't know how to go through God's Law watch www.NoahTheMovie.com (1.2 million views).

Source: https://www.facebook.com/official.Ray.Comfort 11 May 2014

Didn't the bible say faith without work is dead?
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 10:51am On Oct 26, 2019
Uka15:


Didn't the bible say faith without work is dead?

[v]Because Kumuyi blindfolded them to think they're OK as in born again for putting up the mourners outlooks, they assume they have faith.[/b] cheesy

But now you've poked their false bubble with that question. FAITH WITHOUT WORKS IS DEAD! James 2:26

So ask Kumuyi's followers "what type of work was Jesus' blood brother (James) referring to in that verse?"

Then their stupidity will be manifest! cheesy
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Emusan(m): 12:16pm On Oct 26, 2019
Uka15:


Didn't the bible say faith without work is dead?

The point is:
Are you saved by work or by Faith alone?

This shows you didn't understand the OP
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 12:24pm On Oct 26, 2019
Uka15:


Didn't the bible say faith without work is dead?

But the bible didn't say joining a new York based publishing company called watchtower organisation, unquestionably obeying the 8 old imperfect, uninspired and fallible men who head the company, accepting that these 8 old men are the only channel of communication between God and man today and distributing magazines and books made by these company are the WORKS.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Uka15(m): 12:53pm On Oct 26, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:


But the bible didn't say joining a new York based publishing company called watchtower organisation, unquestionably obeying the 8 old imperfect, uninspired and fallible men who head the company, accepting that these 8 old men are the only channel of communication between God and man today and distributing magazines and books made by these company are the WORKS.

Your argument stinks and its laughable .I have no point to make with an apostate.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 1:24pm On Oct 26, 2019
Uka15:


Your argument stinks and its laughable .I have no point to make with an apostate.

So sorry for your loss. You are the apostate here. Did jesus or jehovah ever say we should join watchtower organisation and unquestionably obey the 8 old men ruling it to get saved?
The answer is no.

The only place you will see this is inside watchtower organisation magazine.

Apostate ni apostate ko lol
You regard people who call out your false religion and cult as apostates. You never see anything.

The earlier you start accepting the fact that your jehovah is never coming to destroy wicked/worldly/evil/unrighteous/idol worshippers/pagans/non jws/ people who don't give a hoot about watchtower organisation so you can live forever on paradise earth the better for you.

Take heart you hear? Don't cry too much. You will still die waiting for your wish to come true just the way your founding fathers died waiting. The only place your wish will come to pass is inside your head and in watchtower magazines.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 1:26pm On Oct 26, 2019
Uka15:


Your argument stinks and its laughable .I have no point to make with an apostate.

Bible didn't tell us the WORKS is distributing magazines and reporting the number of hours spent on distributing magazines and beliefs of watchtower organisation.

Your belief stinks trust me.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 1:34pm On Oct 26, 2019
Uka15:


Your argument stinks and its laughable .I have no point to make with an apostate.
Hairyrapunzel is a disfellowshiped sadist, he is frustrated, angry, desperate and can bite you just because you're one of Jehovah's witnesses.

So be careful! wink
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Uka15(m): 1:41pm On Oct 26, 2019
Maximus69:
Hairyrapunzel is a disfellowshiped sadist, he is frustrated, angry, desperate and can bite you just because you're one of Jehovah's witnesses.

So be careful! wink

It's very obvious. Even a blind man can see it.

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 2:04pm On Oct 26, 2019
Uka15:


It's very obvious. Even a blind man can see it.

No be only disfellowshipped sadist lol. Don't cry too much. Your jehovah isn't coming to destroy/kill/murder/slaughter/commit genocide because people refused to join watchtower organisation so you can live forever on paradise earth. Get used to it. Don't cry or go into depression o.
You will still die waiting just like your founding fathers died waiting. It's a cycle
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 2:06pm On Oct 26, 2019
Maximus69:
Hairyrapunzel is a disfellowshiped sadist, he is frustrated, angry, desperate and can bite you just because you're one of Jehovah's witnesses.

So be careful! wink

Lol. It doesn't change the fact that the only place your dreams will come true is inside your head and in your magazines. Take heart
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 2:36pm On Oct 26, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:


Lol. It doesn't change the fact that the only place your dreams will come true is inside your head and in your magazines. Take heart
PEACE Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have PEACE! smiley
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 5:30pm On Oct 26, 2019
Maximus69:

PEACE Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have PEACE! smiley

Still doesn't change the fact that you will die while waiting for your paradise earth to come just like your founding fathers died waiting. FYI your jehovah is never coming to destroy wicked/worldly people.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 5:35pm On Oct 26, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:


Still doesn't change the fact that you will die while waiting for your paradise earth to come just like your founding fathers died waiting. FYI your jehovah is never coming to destroy wicked/worldly people. Psalms 37:7-11 compared to Proverbs 2:20-22, Revelation 11:18

PEACE Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have PEACE! smiley
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 6:07pm On Oct 26, 2019
Maximus69:


PEACE Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have PEACE! smiley
Who told you I don't have peace. It's you that needs peace. You that is waiting for your jehovah to come commit the gruesome murder/genocide of wicked/worldly people and for vultures to feed on their dead bodies because they did not join watchtower organisation. Lol.

I know it's not easy waking up every morning and wishing the above will happen.

It's you that really needs the peace. May you have peace
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 6:45pm On Oct 26, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:

Who told you I don't have peace. It's you that needs peace. You that is waiting for your jehovah to come commit the gruesome murder/genocide of wicked/worldly people and for vultures to feed on their dead bodies because they did not join watchtower organisation. Lol.

I know it's not easy waking up every morning and wishing the above will happen.

It's you that really needs the peace. May you have peace

To the bolded i'll say "Amen!"

And you too Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have PEACE.

It's NOT a curse but prayer so just claim it! wink
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 7:27pm On Oct 26, 2019
Maximus69:


To the bolded i'll say "Amen!"

And you too Mr Hairyrapunzel, may you have PEACE.

It's NOT a curse but prayer so just claim it! wink

I don't need your prayers. Must I claim your prayers? Say the prayers for yourself.


You actually need the peace not me. As your jehovah will never destroy wicked/worldly people. Get used to it.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Ken4Christ: 4:01am On Oct 27, 2019
Janosky:

Apostle of hellfire ,where did God punish the first pair of sinners ,Adam and Eve?

Hell is real and the scripture is so clear about it unless you just want to deny it in spite of the evidences contained in the scripture.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 8:10am On Oct 27, 2019
Ken4Christ:


Hell is real and the scripture is so clear about it unless you just want to deny it in spite of the evidences contained in the scripture.

@bolded Sir,

Adam and Eve talked directly with God and he answered both of them, billions of people after them have to make their supplications to God without hearing anything (prayer).

So if they directly disobeyed him according to the SCRIPTURES, where are they now?

Are they in hellfire experiencing torments since their death?
Or they're still waiting for another seat of judgement different from the one God pronounced at Genesis 3:16-24?

That's the question Sir! undecided

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Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Janosky: 12:26pm On Oct 27, 2019
Ken4Christ pst=83493763:


Hell is real and the scripture is so clear about it unless you just want to deny it in spite of the evidences contained in the scripture.

Which evidences?
Na where Lazarus tell you say him dey enjoy before Jesus resurrected him?
Where the scriptures that Adam and Eve were tortured in hellfire?
Or Sodom and Gomorrah were tortured in hellfire?
ken4Christ just dey yarn okpata !
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Nobody: 3:24pm On Oct 27, 2019
Hairyrapunzel:


I don't WANT your prayers. Must I claim your prayers? Say the prayers for yourself.


You actually need the peace not me. As your jehovah will never destroy wicked/worldly people. Get used to it.


@bolded, i fully grasp what you're saying Sir!

But whether you want it or not, everyone NEEDS prayers. If Jesus could kneel down and PRAY, Mr Hairyrapunzel, you NEED prayers!

So once again, PEACE Mr Hairyrapunzel may you have PEACE! smiley
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 4:32pm On Oct 27, 2019
Maximus69:


@bolded, i fully grasp what you're saying Sir!

But whether you want it or not, everyone NEEDS prayers. If Jesus could kneel down and PRAY, Mr Hairyrapunzel, you NEED prayers!

So once again, PEACE Mr Hairyrapunzel may you have PEACE! smiley

Is it by force to need your prayers? Lol
You are the person that needs peace. You that is always calling for and wishing the destruction/killing of wicked/worldly people. Last last na you need the peace and prayers.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Hairyrapunzel: 4:40pm On Oct 27, 2019
Maximus69:


@bolded Sir,

Adam and Eve talked directly with God and he answered both of them, billions of people after them have to make their supplications to God without hearing anything (prayer).

So if they directly disobeyed him according to the SCRIPTURES, where are they now?

Are they in hellfire experiencing torments since their death?
Or they're still waiting for another seat of judgement different from the one God pronounced at Genesis 3:16-24?

That's the question Sir! undecided

Whether you like it or not your jehovah isn't coming to destroy wicked/worldly people because they refused to join watchtower organisation and unquestionably obey the 8 old uninspired, imperfect and fallible men and accept that they are the only channel of communication between God and man today.

If you like talk from here to Jericho. Your paradise earth is only inside your head and inside your watchtower magazines. You will die waiting for armageddon just like your founding fathers died waiting.

Take heart
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Ken4Christ: 12:42am On Oct 28, 2019
Janosky:


Which evidences?
Na where Lazarus tell you say him dey enjoy before Jesus resurrected him?
Where the scriptures that Adam and Eve were tortured in hellfire?
Or Sodom and Gomorrah were tortured in hellfire?
ken4Christ just dey yarn okpata !

You should be concerned about yourself and not Adam and Eve. Forget about the argument they give you in your Kingdom hall and read the entire Bible. Only a dishonest person will say there is no hell. The evidences of the scripture are so overwhelming that I have a whole book on it. You have been brainwashed and you can't reason straight again. It will be too late when you get in and you will remember how foolish you were.
Re: "How Can One Witness To A Jehovah's Witness?" by Ken4Christ: 12:48am On Oct 28, 2019
Maximus69:


@bolded Sir,

Adam and Eve talked directly with God and he answered both of them, billions of people after them have to make their supplications to God without hearing anything (prayer).

So if they directly disobeyed him according to the SCRIPTURES, where are they now?

Are they in hellfire experiencing torments since their death?
Or they're still waiting for another seat of judgement different from the one God pronounced at Genesis 3:16-24?

That's the question Sir! undecided

My friend, all these questions are uncalled for. Save your own soul and let God be the judge. Just read chapter by chapter, verse by verse gospel according to Matthew, Mark, Luke and John and come back and tell me there is no hell. Even Lucifer believes and trembles. Run for your life and stop going to Jehovah witness whose founder was recently seen suffering in hell because of his false teachings.

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