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I look myself in the mirror and say......
She's not worth my stress, If only she could see through me......

Omar09:
You didn't tag me. Red pill. I think it's high time you stopped begging. See beyond them. You are better off without them.

I was once like you. I will beg to be loved. To even kiss her, to caress her, to feel her, but all to no avail. I didn't have any intention of having sex with her for those who would say it's lust, I loved her, but she left me twice n I begged. But on the third one I was prepared to die without her since I can't live without her. It's all in your head, don't be afraid to try new things.

The human is designed to be afraid of change. Conquer that fear n you will see that not all things are worth the fight. You are scared you will meet someone worse than her, but even if you do, you still kick her out like you did to the one before n you keep on going n going till meet your perfect match.

Ubunja
Martinez39

Aptly spoken.

swaggzo:
Maybe if I comment first on my own topic it'll make me feel better for a minute.
I'm gonna tag a few wise friends so that they can try to help me get through this

Hopefullandlord, Hahn. HappyPagan, Michellekabod2.
Zikzikzik (I've always wanted to talk to you about how you feel. You don't have to end life, everything will be okay).
Hakeem12, 1sharon, hakeem4. Capslocked, skeetz, johnydon22, hardmirror. Atlantia, stupidity. MJbolt, dalaman, calliope, xxsabrinaxx. Izzou, lordreed. Janettee, Hopeforcharles. Ever wise tintingz.

Ubunja/Martinez39 (please don't tell me about redpills. Sometimes, genuine love is bigger than anything in it's way.)

You don't want me to tell you about red pills? Now listen very well. If you had taken the red pill to know that as far as relationship is concerned, no girl is special, irreplaceable, indispensable, and the best thing to happen since slice bread, you would probably not have opened this thread. It's foolishness and degrading for a man like you to follow women to label Ubunja, myself, and others as women bashers when you clearly haven't taken time to read our messages. Isn't it stupid to cast judgement on things you know nothing of?

The fact that no woman, no matter how beautiful or educated, as far as relationship is concerned, is special, irreplaceable, indispensable, or the best thing to happen since slice bread is a common sense that weak and foolish men are yet to grab. Women are nothing special and they are just another human. There is no law in the universe that doesn't apply to them. Never, I repeat never, beg your fellow homo sapiens (especially one that you are providing for and hence needs you more than you need her), who isn't interested, to be in your life and love you. Get some sense of self respect. If a woman says she is not interested, let her go and don't beg her to stay. In fact, close the door on her for good and let her be the one to beg if she wants to come back.

Only foolish men put women on a pedestal. I know you will discard my advice like many since you love your sweet illusions of romantic love instead of reality. If you are crying, weeping, creating a scene, and rolling on the floor to beg your fellow human being to love you, you are a big fool and a disgrace to manhood. Mtewwww.



Omar09, healthserve, astroG, Ubunja, CAPSLOCKED

@swaggzo
In all my days and all my experiences in life, no woman will ever love you except for her personal interest.No woman born in this world is worth it.The only woman that truly loves you without personal interest is your mother besides that it’s all about personal interest.If men understand that, they wouldn’t be killing themselves over woman and just live with it so don’t expect anything short of that from a woman
By a nlander

Oluromantic:
Lol. Stop dating girls in their early 20s. They have a lot of attention from men that makes them use extreme words like "never again" No wise human uses words of finality in relating with people.. Girls in their early 30s are better unless you're very young too.

Avoid excess familiarity with one woman. They declare always that they want a man who will love them if possible more than Jesus loves them, but in reality what they want is a man who can overlook their emotional manipulations... they themselves know they're trouble and they enjoy being one. That's why u see some men have 3 girlfriends so as not to get too used to one to d level of regretting showing her too much love.

Choose personality over beauty. The understanding of temperament may help. Some peaceful girls may be dark in complexion, plumpy, and calm while you are looking for a yellow slim and action, queens English speaker. Many men have reached their early grave cus of beauty

This one is advising guys to go for evening Newspapers...WTF!!!

swaggzo:
When you feel you have offended someone, when you see them gloomy.. Because of something you did or didn't do, I think it is okay to try to cheer them up in anyway you can. Even if you have to "beg" them to forgive your mistakes.

Sensible people are trying hard here to make u see the light u have been blinded to and here u are trying so hard to justify begging for love
Your case is pathetic i must say. She obviously doesn't love u and will never love u & if u succeed again at begging her back just be prepared to be her doormat or continue begging till u leave this earth. For u to even reason that ur actions in correcting her excesses were mistakes.... man why are u trying to hang urself naa? If na beauty abi na love or the pussie too sweet guy if u don't open ur eyes and face life for what it is u will not see a far far better option even if she's standing right before u...

You don't force love bro... it's not negotiable

IHate9jerianss:
@swaggzo
In all my days and all my experience in life no woman will ever love you except for her personal interest, we just have to marry out of obligations no woman born in this world is worth it the only woman that truly loves you without personal interest is your mother besides that it’s all about personal interest if men understand that they wouldn’t be killing themselves over woman and just live with it so don’t expect anything short of that from a woman
By a nlander

Well spoken. Don't mind him. Just like a weak child, swaggzo wants sweet illusions instead of reality. Whether you like it or not, no woman can love you except what you can provide and how you make her feel (the is very secondary as what you can provide is her top priority). To a woman, a man is always a utility. Once that utility cannot perform it's duties anymore (provide), it is no longer welcomed or loved. A woman will always end up with the highest bidder she can lay her hands on. I say this not because a woman hurt me or because I learnt the hard way but because this is the reality of things and I accept reality whether it turns out to be what I like or not. In fact, I have never had a girlfriend in my life or spent money on a girl since I consider romantic relationships to be overhyped and a pure waste of time and resources.

All women are like that. Even the one that you think is good, churchy, and descent is like that. Just like true friendship, romantic love doesn't exist instead it exists only in the heads of men. Women are brutal survivalists and no matter how much you sacrificed for her, she will dump you cold without remorse when you can't provide and she has found someone else that can. Even if you donated a kidney or lost an arm to save her life in the past, you get the same thing. If she is married to you with children, have lost her sexual market value, and can't find a higher bidder, you get to face her disrespect, loathing, irritability (she gets upset and mad at you at any little thing) and nagging. It's worse when she making massive money and you are broke.

For many men, they will never learn early and in the easy way. They will wait until they learn the hard way after investing so much and close to drinking sniper. Good day.

Omar09, healthserve, CAPSLOCKED, Ubunja, astroG

Banging your head on the wall, pleading, crying, etc wont bring a girl back, if anything, it even makes her far from you. You have to understand a bit of female psychology. Men and women think differently.

A man that does all that is interpreted as beneath, no options, and of a lower value to her. Such act is an expression of lack, being not good enough for her, and that she can do better. If you've tried to get her back with reasonable actions such as admitting fault, pledging to make up and she refused, then accept that she is gone for good.

Relationship is not only about logic, but also about feelings and emotions, and more so for women. Even if you offend her, if she still have a strong deep-seated love and sees a value in you, she will stay without you begging and trashing yourself for her consideration.

dairykidd:
Sensible people are trying hard here to make u see the light u have been blinded to and here u are trying so hard to justify begging for love
Your case is pathetic i must say. She obviously doesn't love u and will never love u & if u succeed again at begging her back just be prepared to be her doormat or continue begging till u leave this earth. For u to even reason that ur actions in correcting her excesses were mistakes.... man why are u trying to hang urself naa? If na beauty abi na love or the pussie too sweet guy if u don't open ur eyes and face life for what it is u will not see a far far better option even if she's standing right before u...

You don't force love bro... it's not negotiable

Don't mind him. His girlfriend, whom he is probably providing for, is just playing a game of power dynamics since he has made the fatal mistake of treating her as indispensable and special. Each you beg a girl to come back, she must have given you a rule that you will obey in order for her to come back and stay. Unfortunately, such rule is made to favour and give her more grasp on the position of dominion in the relationship. When she repeats such break up, it means more rules. Swaggzo is settling up himself to be a door mat. He came here to find those that will feed and support his illusions and stupidity, and to create an echo chamber for himself. A pathetic way for a man to live his life.

I wonder why some people have brains but can't use them and have some self respect.

It’s so easy to fall under the illusion of romantic love. This is nature’s way of “tricking” our minds to ensure the cycle of life continues here on earth

It’s very easy to “fall in love” with what you don’t have, and when you eventually get it, the chances you’ll take it for granted is high.

If you doubt me, check out how the romantic feelings of a typical couple is;

A) Dating stage :- Very high
B) Newly wed :- High
C) 10 years into marriage with many kids, siblings, in-laws and aging parents to cater for :- Romantic feelings jumps out of the window and reality takes centre stage.


Snap out of these emotional impulses. It’s all in your head.

Martinez39:
You don't want me to tell you about red pills? Now listen very well. If you had taken the red pill to know that as far as relationship is concerned, no girl is special, irreplaceable, indispensable, and the best thing to happen since slice bread, you would probably not have opened this thread. It's foolishness and degrading for a man like you to follow women to label Ubunja, myself, and others as women bashers when you clearly haven't taken time to read our messages. Isn't it stupid to cast judgement on things you know nothing of?

The fact that no woman, no matter how beautiful or educated, as far as relationship is concerned, is special, irreplaceable, indispensable, or the best thing to happen since slice bread is a common sense that weak and foolish men are yet to grab. Women are nothing special and they are just another human. There is no law in the universe that doesn't apply to them. Never, I repeat never, beg your fellow homo sapiens (especially one that you are providing for and hence needs you more than you need her), who isn't interested, to be in your life and love you. Get some sense of self respect. If a woman says she is not interested, let her go and don't beg her to stay. In fact, close the door on her for good and let her be the one to beg if she wants to come back.

Only foolish men put women on a pedestal. I know you will discard my advice like many since you love your sweet illusions of romantic love instead of reality. If you are crying, weeping, creating a scene, and rolling on the floor to beg your fellow human being to love you, you are a big fool and a disgrace to manhood. Mtewwww.



Omar09, healthserve, astroG, Ubunja, CAPSLOCKED

Bros ,which beer you dey drink?,one cold chilled beer for you.........how can a guy beg a girl you called a girlfriend to love and stay with you because you guys had some issues, not 1 or 2 times,,,somebody you dy take care of or maybe the girl is the one taking care of the O P if not,let the girl go and work on yourself .....

Martinez39:
Don't mind him. His girlfriend, whom he is probably providing for, is just playing a game of power dynamics since he has made the fatal mistake of treating her as indispensable and special. Each you beg a girl to come back, she must have given you a rule that you will obey in order for her to come back and stay. Unfortunately, such rule is made to favour and give her more grasp on the position of dominion in the relationship. When she repeats such break up, it means more rules. Swaggzo is settling up himself to be a door mat. He came here to find those that will feed and support his illusions and stupidity, and to create an echo chamber for himself. A pathetic way for a man to live his life.

I wonder why some people have brains but can't use them and have some self respect.

It seems this O P is still in secondary school or just got admission into school and love they shark am.....
Or probably is one of those guys that are afraid to talk (toast) a girl hence the reason his begging a girl to stay with him...

Martinez39:
Well spoken. Don't mind him. Just like a weak child, swaggzo wants sweet illusions instead of reality. Whether you like it or not, no woman can love you except what you can provide and how you make her feel (the is very secondary as what you can provide is her top priority). To a woman, a man is always a utility. Once that utility cannot perform it's duties anymore (provide), it is no longer welcomed or loved. A woman will always end up with the highest bidder she can lay her hands on. I say this not because a woman hurt me or because I learnt the hard way but because this is the reality of things and I accept reality whether it turns out to be what I like or not. In fact, I have never had a girlfriend in my life or spent money on a girl since I consider romantic relationships to be overhyped and a pure waste of time and resources.

All women are like that. Even the one that you think is good, churchy, and descent is like that. Just like true friendship, romantic love doesn't exist instead it exists only in the heads of men. Women are brutal survivalists and no matter how much you sacrificed for her, she will dump you cold without remorse when you can't provide and she has found someone else that can. Even if you donated a kidney or lost an arm to save her life in the past, you get the same thing. If she is married to you with children, have lost her sexual market value, and can't find a higher bidder, you get to face her disrespect, loathing, irritability (she gets upset and mad at you at any little thing) and nagging. It's worse when she making massive money and you are broke.

For many men, they will never learn early and in the easy way. They will wait until they learn the hard way after investing so much and close to drinking sniper. Good day.

Omar09, healthserve, CAPSLOCKED, Ubunja, astroG

You absolutely right and i totally agree with you. My dad told me years ago, "son there is nothing like love, its just permanent interest" but becos i was brainwashed by romantic fairy tales by mainstream media back then i brushed what he said off and used to wonder what old boy was saying, now i know better. Women see men as tools they can use and discard at will, we simply a means to an end and the earlier we men know this the more peace we'll be with ourselves and the way things are in this world.

Martinez39:
Don't mind him. His girlfriend, whom he is probably providing for, is just playing a game of power dynamics since he has made the fatal mistake of treating her as indispensable and special. Each you beg a girl to come back, she must have given you a rule that you will obey in order for her to come back and stay. Unfortunately, such rule is made to favour and give her more grasp on the position of dominion in the relationship. When she repeats such break up, it means more rules. Swaggzo is settling up himself to be a door mat. He came here to find those that will feed and support his illusions and stupidity, and to create an echo chamber for himself. A pathetic way for a man to live his life.

I wonder why some people have brains but can't use them and have some self respect.

Exactly when i read his epistles of woes i knew he wasn't anywhere near ready for the truth. That guy is wasted and wasting on a hoe that will ruin his life and run him to point zero. Imagine even claiming he knows that she truly loves him
I wish i could see him to just knock his front theeth

I advice young men to listen to hard core rap music. It will help toughen them and prepare them for reality of life.

viceddy95:
Bros ,which beer you dey drink?,one cold chilled beer for you.........how can a guy beg a girl you called a girlfriend to love and stay with you because you guys had some issues, not 1 or 2 times,,,somebody you dy take care of or maybe the girl is the one taking care of the O P if not,let the girl go and work on yourself .....

I no dey drink alcohol. Na Chivita I dey like. Don't mind the op. He came here to find people that will feed his illusions and stupidity, and to create an echo chamber for himself. I hope he doesn't get to a stage where after he has invested so much, he learns the hard way and becomes suicidal.

Nesso:
You absolutely right and i totally agree with you. My dad told me years ago, "son there is nothing like love, its just permanent interest" but becos i was brainwashed by romantic fairy tales by mainstream media back then i brushed what he said off and used to wonder what old boy was saying, now i know better. Women see men as tools they can use and discard at will, we simply a means to an end and the earlier we men know this the more peace we'll be with ourselves and the way things are in this world.

Your dad was giving you some red pill but mainstream media and small pikin do gree you listen. More red pills for you.

Martinez39:
Your dad was giving you some red pill but mainstream media and small pikin do gree you listen. More red pills for you.

Thanks

Nesso:
You absolutely right and i totally agree with you. My dad told me years ago, "son there is nothing like love, its just permanent interest" but becos i was brainwashed by romantic fairy tales by mainstream media back then i brushed what he said off and used to wonder what old boy was saying, now i know better. Women see men as tools they can use and discard at will, we simply a means to an end and the earlier we men know this the more peace we'll be with ourselves and the way things are in this world.

Unlike what many will choose to believe, the purpose of the red pill is not to hate women or institute misogyny. Instead, it is to enlighten men so that :
1) they stop making women their priorities,
2) they stop spending unnecessarily on girlfriends (who might no even marry them) and even her family. There are much better things to spend your money on than a woman, her family, and sex. Also, you are better off saving your money.
3) they stop handing special treatment and privileges to women. Women should be treated equally like men. No special treatment or privileges for any no matter how beautiful or sexy. No man ought to be a white knight,
4) they are no longer vulnerable to female manipulation.

thelastmediator:
I advice young men to listen to hard core rap music. It will help toughen them and prepare them for reality of life.

this guy just laid out a simple solution to a multi dimensional problem. now, who have noticed that legendary Chris brown have lost his touch. I noticed this since he started collaborating with people like davido.

The truth is as a boy after u love your mum then u will love one other woman who will break your heart before becoming a man. Some men experience that heartbreak in old age so they die after their wives, while some boys experience it in their youthful age so they don't experience it again but the truth is u must experience it.

One thing I have learnt over time is when a man reaches that age of marriage and picking his bride, he has to be made and ready. (Made in sense of ready to take responsibility) while woman has to be READY TO ADJUST.( she can be pretty and all poo) but ones that marriage bee stings her, she will leave a lover whom she loves to marry a stranger .

So the game is ones u meet a girl u really love who seem ready to adjust in order to downplay her, Just give her a ring. She will cheat ooo but she will come back. The cheating should not bother u because recently alot of married young ladies left love for marriage and that made it possible for them to cheat while the guys are cheating

thelastmediator:
I advice young men to listen to hard core rap music. It will help toughen them and prepare them for reality of life.

Especially American rap music from the late 1980s to the early 2000s.Just have a listen to the harsh but true lyrics of Jay z in the first verse of the song "big pimpin'" He later apologized for the lyrics for being "misogynistic" due to societal pressure.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cgoqrgc_0cM

Martinez39:
You don't want me to tell you about red pills? Now listen very well. If you had taken the red pill to know that as far as relationship is concerned, no girl is special, irreplaceable, indispensable, and the best thing to happen since slice bread, you would probably not have opened this thread. It's foolishness and degrading for a man like you to follow women to label Ubunja, myself, and others as women bashers when you clearly haven't taken time to read our messages. Isn't it stupid to cast judgement on things you know nothing of?

The fact that no woman, no matter how beautiful or educated, as far as relationship is concerned, is special, irreplaceable, indispensable, or the best thing to happen since slice bread is a common sense that weak and foolish men are yet to grab. Women are nothing special and they are just another human. There is no law in the universe that doesn't apply to them. Never, I repeat never, beg your fellow homo sapiens (especially one that you are providing for and hence needs you more than you need her), who isn't interested, to be in your life and love you. Get some sense of self respect. If a woman says she is not interested, let her go and don't beg her to stay. In fact, close the door on her for good and let her be the one to beg if she wants to come back.

Only foolish men put women on a pedestal. I know you will discard my advice like many since you love your sweet illusions of romantic love instead of reality. If you are crying, weeping, creating a scene, and rolling on the floor to beg your fellow human being to love you, you are a big fool and a disgrace to manhood. Mtewwww.



Omar09, healthserve, astroG, Ubunja, CAPSLOCKED

sissy men everywhere, they don't have the wherewithal to handle the ugly truths of relationships advice you just dished out. I keep telling them, never confide or depend on a woman for your emotional comfort, but they won't hear, they always depends on a woman for their happiness, that's the beginning part of their failures.

Martinez39:
You don't want me to tell you about red pills? Now listen very well. If you had taken the red pill to know that as far as relationship is concerned, no girl is special, irreplaceable, indispensable, and the best thing to happen since slice bread, you would probably not have opened this thread. It's foolishness and degrading for a man like you to follow women to label Ubunja, myself, and others as women bashers when you clearly haven't taken time to read our messages. Isn't it stupid to cast judgement on things you know nothing of?

The fact that no woman, no matter how beautiful or educated, as far as relationship is concerned, is special, irreplaceable, indispensable, or the best thing to happen since slice bread is a common sense that weak and foolish men are yet to grab. Women are nothing special and they are just another human. There is no law in the universe that doesn't apply to them. Never, I repeat never, beg your fellow homo sapiens (especially one that you are providing for and hence needs you more than you need her), who isn't interested, to be in your life and love you. Get some sense of self respect. If a woman says she is not interested, let her go and don't beg her to stay. In fact, close the door on her for good and let her be the one to beg if she wants to come back.

Only foolish men put women on a pedestal. I know you will discard my advice like many since you love your sweet illusions of romantic love instead of reality. If you are crying, weeping, creating a scene, and rolling on the floor to beg your fellow human being to love you, you are a big fool and a disgrace to manhood. Mtewwww.



Omar09, healthserve, astroG, Ubunja, CAPSLOCKED

Dude, humans have different way of running their emotions.

Oreofepeters:
Never beg a woman to love you, know your worth. Are you that bad ?

Abi.... relationship can't work when it's one-sided...I will be happier than ever...if a lady tells me she doesn't love me or she doesn't wanna come back....than u tryna manage me.....i love sincerity alot

palmshots:
This one is advising guys to go for evening Newspapers...WTF!!!

If you mean woman in her 30s is an evening newspapers then you're silly and ignorant.

tintingz:
Dude, humans have different way of running their emotions.

Meaning?

rottennaija:
I understand your pain. Have been there before, lost a relationship of almost 9 years because of religion, my life was practically built around her, she was my dream, my life, my love etc. At the end, it ended like that.

Though it's been more than a year, each time I think about her or discuss with her in phone or in person, it puts me in a melancholy mood. I have met different people with different trait and characters, I kept moving forward, kept looking for the sort of person I'm interested in.

Am I happy today? Yes. Am I also sad? Yes, for I am sad of how it could have been. In all these, I learnt a big lesson and I could move forward. In my own case, while I knew we love each other, I also learnt than in some cases, love for something else was greater than the love she had for me (in this case her religion). So in that case, it probably was all for nothing.

Anyway, believe me. You will get over it and will be a better person. But it's not easy, but you will pull through.

Which religion, if you don't mind my asking?

swaggzo:
Maybe if I comment first on my own topic it'll make me feel better for a minute.
I'm gonna tag a few wise friends so that they can try to help me get through this

Hopefullandlord, Hahn. HappyPagan, Michellekabod2.
Zikzikzik (I've always wanted to talk to you about how you feel. You don't have to end life, everything will be okay).
Hakeem12, 1sharon, hakeem4. Capslocked, skeetz, johnydon22, hardmirror. Atlantia, stupidity. MJbolt, dalaman, calliope, xxsabrinaxx. Izzou, lordreed. Janettee, Hopeforcharles. Ever wise tintingz.

Ubunja/Martinez39 (please don't tell me about redpills. Sometimes, genuine love is bigger than anything in it's way.)

I haven't been into much relationship, I've had one relationship and it didn't last, I think it lasted 7 months or so.

I can't give much advice on this.

My only advice is always prepare for the unexpected, in that way things won't look very surprising and depressing.

Martinez39:
Meaning?

The way I take my emotions can be different from yours.

You may have a way of suppressing your emotions or being dishonest.

swaggzo:
Women bashers, Clueless Men, and people that have never been in love, please keep off.
I'm already seeing some worthless "offpoint" statements and disregard. How difficult is it for Nigerian Adults to either be meaningfully useful, or ignore and mind their business?



To my fellow men, how did you get through this?

You fall in love with someone, and they leave you and never come back. You plead, and plead, and cry at their feet because you loved them sincerely. But they swear never to come back.

Not that you were a bad person that beat up your partner, cheated on them or treated them carelessly. You only made a few "common" mistakes like raising your voice, correcting certain flaws, or whatever it is that would go on in a relationship and normal couples will get through it. But your partner leaves you 3 times because he/she "wasn't happy" in the relationship because of these "common" mistakes/situations. You beg them and they come back, but this 4th time they leave you, you go on to try to get them back for days or weeks, with no success.

Usually they like to leave because they've found someone else. Sometimes they leave because they cannot cope with you. But you really want them for all their great qualities, and this 4th time, you've made up your mind to be good. To be better than you ever was, even though you cannot really see how those "common" relationship situations are worthy to be called faults that should lead to a breakup.

They make up their mind not to return to you. Cry, roll in mud, bang your head a hundred times but they're unimpressed. Their minds have been made up to "leave a man like you for a man that will value and cherish them". In fact seeing you, your calls, and texts make them angrier.


My friends, how did you get through this situation?
How did you comfort yourself with their absence with the fact that in your heart, you know they were too good but your small mistakes were huge to them and you let them down.

You wanted them forever. Marriage, children and happiness. Now you wonder if there are any people as good as they were. You're worried you'll never such love and kindness and commitment and passion and honestly and loyalty and dedication and pureness of heart, anywhere in the world again.

You really want them back. But they don't even want to see your name or face anywhere. They used to love you. But their fragile hearts couldn't endure your little naggings or jokes, or complaints and inconsistent love. They had their own shortcomings too. In fact, you reacted the times you did because of their actions. But they put all the blames on you. For love's sake you accept all the pains and blames and decide to fight further and keep things together. But they are now less interested. They're also worried about the tribal differences between your families.

Not that you're begging to be loved. No. They're unhappy because of you. Your "common" mistakes hurt and offend them. So you "beg" for forgiveness. But they've had enough of you.

Men that has been in these oversized shoes that are mine currently, how did you get through this?

My brother u cannot negotiate genuine desire, if she ain't feeling u, den there's almost nothing u can do about it, begging doesnt solve anything, it will only make it worse and put u at disadvantage. Move on and by dat i mean don't call her, and if she happens to call u someday, don't answer!!

Nesso:
My brother u cannot negotiate genuine desire, if she ain't feeling u, den there's almost nothing u can do about it, begging doesnt solve anything, it will only make it worse and put u at disadvantage. Move on and by dat i mean don't call her, and if she happens to call u someday, don't answer!!

If every guy becomes redpilled like guys on the thread, women go hear am , but until then, let's the redpill apostles keep dozing them until it takes maximum effect.