bobowaja:

You committed a fallacy of authority and he pointed it out. And why did you assume he is a follower of Darwin? That itself is another fallacy.

Nothing like fallacy in what I said,these scientists are the real atheists but they believed

Mitocyan:

Don't get me wrong I meant the religions were made up. And the miracles attributed to them were made up.

You are contradicting yourself. Stay one place for this argument pls.

If you are saying the religions were made up, you are basically saying Jesus didn’t exist. Is that your argument.

I’m asking you so you can clarify.

larride:


Like I said, I don’t do scattergun approach. You must be consistent in your argument and even if you want to jump to another thing without first clearing up the basis of our argument.

Do you agree that Jesus existed or not or you believe he was made up? Answer that without dribbling yourself. The answer should be straightforward enough.

@ the bolded, do not bring fallacy into the discussion as it erode whatever intergrity in your words. Where in the Bible did Jesus says “You can thread upon snakes and drink poison without them hurting you”? If you can make the Bible reference, it will be much appreciated.

Check Luke 10:19. Well I don't know if a man called Jesus existed at some point in history. But I'm sure all the supernatural things attributed to him are made up. Virgin birth, raising the dead, miracles and rising from the dead.

Mitocyan:

No nothing like witches. If there were they would have been employed during the civil war. People would have milked cbn dry by now. I don't want to go into the endless scenarios that can arise if they exist. Please those statements are complete rubbish.

The word

War[/b]has meaning and place of usage
Likewise the word[b]rubbish so Witches
Can't just exist without form.

@mitocyan like the way you reason sir

Do u believe in the supernatural

larride:


You are contradicting yourself. Stay one place for this argument pls.

If you are saying the religions were made up, you are basically saying Jesus didn’t exist. Is that your argument.

I’m asking you so you can clarify.

My argument is that all the supernatural things attributed to Jesus are made up and never happened like Virgin Birth, raising the dead, miracles and rising from the dead.

Shadon007:
@mitocyan like the way you reason sir

Do u believe in the supernatural

Thanks Shadon007. No I have no reason to belive in the supernatural as much as I have no reason to belive in superman or spiderman.

pes2019:


The word

War[/b]has meaning and place of usage
Likewise the word[b]rubbish so Witches
Can't just exist without form.

Ok I'm sorry I used those insulting words.

Eagleboney:
Nothing like fallacy in what I said,these scientists are the real atheists but they believed

Please check the following words meanings:
1. Fallacy
2. Atheist

Eagleboney:
Nothing like fallacy in what I said,these scientists are the real atheists but they believed

An atheist is someone that doesn't belive in any religion. So you might want to reorganize your points.

Mitocyan:

Because they are all made up hogwash by people that didn't know much. So why do you believe in the existence of God? Has he helped you raise a dead man before?

Have you not heard of places like Guadalupe, sienna,Assisi, Fatima, just to mention a few
many Catholic saints are incorruptible so many years after death ,most recent one died in 1968 but their body have defied decaying, some are still bleeding since 1233 ,sweet scents oozing out from some of the bodies,
scientist have no answer to this miracle ,because some of them are buried in lime ,
check It out and attest to that

bobowaja:
Please check the following words meanings: 1. Fallacy 2. Atheist

Can you put my knowledge to test, I don't think you got me

Mitocyan:

Check Luke 10:19. Well I don't know if a man called Jesus existed at some point in history. But I'm sure all the supernatural things attributed to him are made up. Virgin birth, raising the dead, miracles and rising from the dead.

Luke 10:19 clearly states “Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpent and scorpions and over all power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you”.

Pls bring where he said you should go drink poison out.

So if you can’t disprove that he exist, how can you disprove the things he did.

larride:


So you are saying both Jesus and Mohammed never existed, right?

The question of the existence of Jesus and Mohammed is a different subject for debate. The question is, if it is true that God exists and what the bible says will happen to christians who believe in him is true, then

1. Why don't christians do greater works than Jesus christ in our era as promised? In a gathering of say a thousand christians, only one will come up with an unverifiable claim of experiencing miracles.

2. And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues; They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

Why is it that on an average, in a gathering of say 1000 christians,
- less than 1% claim that they have successfully casted out devils while the others don't attempt to do so?
- less than 1% claim to have picked up "serpents" or drink poison successfully. We've had verified cases of a "christian" entering lion's dens etc to prove their faith but sadly end up being killed by the hungry animals but we have never seen a documented case of a successful one.
- less than 1% of christians claim to have reportedly carried out succesful healing by laying of hands etc

BUT: a considerable number of christians speak in tongues. That is the only sign most christians claim to exhibit, while the others seem to be dormant. Could it be that the "speaking in tongues" is more in vogue because there is no way of verifying its authenticity?

Eagleboney:
Have you not heard of places like Guadalupe, sienna,Assisi, Fatima, just to mention a few
many Catholic saints are incorruptible so many years after death ,most recent one died in 1968 but their body have defied decaying, some are still bleeding since 1233 ,sweet scents oozing out from some of the bodies,
scientist have no answer to this miracle ,because some of them are buried in lime ,
check It out and attest to that

So what does this prove? At some point scientist didn't have the answer to communication over the internet of two people far apart. Here we are talking to each other without even knowing one another's location today?

Mitocyan:

My argument is that all the supernatural things attributed to Jesus are made up and never happened like Virgin Birth, raising the dead, miracles and rising from the dead.

What proof do you have that these things didn’t happen?

Eagleboney:
Can you put my knowledge to test,
I don't think you got me

Then, what is atheist and what is fallacy? Let's start from there.

larride:


Luke 10:19 clearly states “Behold, I give unto you power to tread on serpent and scorpions and over all power of the enemy, and nothing shall by any means hurt you”.

Pls bring where he said you should go drink poison out.

So if you can’t disprove that he exist, how can you disprove the things he did.

I laugh in swahili. You've not answered my question either? Do you think you can drink poison without it hurting you?

"So if you can't disprove the existence of my brother how can you disprove that he can turn into a lion".

Well I'm very sure you'll ask me to bring him to a public place and demonstrate it otherwise you'll dismiss me as a lunatic. What if I told you he died many years ago. You'll know I'm not worth your time. That is exactly how you sound right now.

larride:


What proof do you have that these things didn’t happen?

The burden of proof lies with the person that makes the claim.

Mitocyan:

So what does this prove? At some point scientist didn't have the answer to communication over the internet of two people far apart. Here we are talking to each other without even knowing one another's location today?

That is a real prove of God existence, cos normally dead bodies are supposed to decay in in 2 or 3 years I guess ,
but seeing a dead body buried in decaying agent in 1145 still fresh and bleeding, Even producing sweet scents as at now is a mindblowing miracle ,
check it out on Google and watch the video,u will hardly believe that is a dead body ,u will think they are sleeping

Eagleboney:
That is a real prove of God existence, cos normally dead bodies are supposed to decay in in 2 or 3 years I guess ,
but seeing a dead body buried in decaying agent in 1145 still fresh and bleeding, Even producing sweet scents as at now is a mindblowing miracle ,
check it out on Google and watch the video,u will hardly believe that is a dead body ,u will think they are sleeping

So how do we know it is God doing these things and not a process we have not yet understood?

larride:


What proof do you have that these things didn’t happen?

Prove that I am not using an iPhone. Normally the proving should be on me to convince you that I am. Not the other way round.

bobowaja:

Then, what is atheist and what is fallacy? Let's start from there.

I may call this your question dump question

bobowaja:

Prove that I am not using an iPhone. Normally the proving should be on me to convince you that I am. Not the other way round.

Honestly I don't know how hard it is for people to understand. The day I understood this simple concept was the day I bade farewell to religion.

Mitocyan:

So how do we know it is God doing these things and not a process we have not yet understood?

Lol... God of the gaps. Just plug in a god and go to bed. Never use "we dont know", always use "God did it".

Eagleboney:
I may call this your question dump question

Alright we have nothing to discuss then. Your understanding of both words is flawed.

bobowaja:

Then, what is atheist and what is fallacy? Let's start from there.

Even a kindergarten kid no that atheist is someone that doesn't pledge allegiance to any religion

bobowaja:

Lol... God of the gaps. Just plug in a god and go to bed. Never use "we dont know", always use "God did it".

Haha don't mind them

Mitocyan:

So how do we know it is God doing these things and not a process we have not yet understood?

bro I don't think science will even unravel or understand that mystery, scientists have already declared it a miracle officially,cause all their years in research have been futile

Eagleboney:
Even a kindergarten kid no that atheist is someone that doesn't pledge allegiance to any religion

Lack of believe in gods or deities.
He said you committed a fallacy by referring to Darwin in your post which you did and you even went further to assume (which is another fallacy).

You must understand that this is a discussion, not an argument. So there is no need to go extreme to prove a point.

Eagleboney:
Even a kindergarten kid no that atheist is someone that doesn't pledge allegiance to any religion

Ok I think I get you now. What you have in mind is a deist(look it up for the full description) not atheist. The renowned Mathematician Carl Friedrich Gauss was a Deist. He rejected all religion but still felt the existence of God was possible. A God whose character does not fit into any of those described by the known religions.

bobowaja:

Lack of believe in gods or deities.
He said you committed a fallacy by referring to Darwin in your post which you did and you even went further to assume (which is another fallacy).

You must understand that this is a discussion, not an argument. So there is no need to go extreme to prove a point.

Yeah Correct. Honestly bobowaja we should be friends. I like the way you reason.