XhosaNostra:


I laugh in Latin @ bolded. He better be ready for an epic standoff. I will never budge. Either a guy leads because I don't think I will ever respect someone with a passive approach. Never. I like mine to be go-getters & very traditional. All this sissy new age stuff can miss me.

People should stick to what works for them. I've given girls number and they've called too. Nothing is written in stone.

Shugavee:
lol Na better crazy Dey worry Una !! The way Una go single ehn !! Only a foolish ugly desperate girl will put herself so low

Only a foolish ugly guy would put himself so low by begging for girls number

How about this?

I stand with ubunja.... it's cliche to meet a first time girl then just ask for her number... now the point is this, while some people (Ladies) see it as arrogance on the man's part... It depends on the mannerism and approach to which you have contact with the girl... rather than saying "hey call me,here's my card"..

you could start up with light flatteries admiring her looks and even seek permission to snap her with her own phone... then you could just tip out your card and tell her, hey call me.... for photoshoot sessions �

That would make a lot of difference, now you are the game and your approach was comic and flirty...

XhosaNostra:
Hahaha @ he declined taking her number. The card probably ended up in the nearest bin, where it belongs. The flies & maggots will call you

By giving his number he showed that he is interested in her.

If she threw away the number or refused calling that means she's not interested.

And probably if he was the one that collected the number she would still show him big time.

So by doing this, he has saved himself from chasing girls that won't be interested or willing to give him a try.

But seriously the op .bleeped up by not giving her his number when she asked. Only desperate girls would call such a guy.

ozodigboo:
My guy and I ran into two babes at a mall.
I told my own that I like her, that we need to hang out, and I gave her my card ( with my number on it of course). She wanted to give me her number but I smiled and declined. I wanted her to feel free to call.

My guy didn't buy the idea. He collected the his girls number, and lated called. But the girl hasn't yet agreed to any date and promised to call later, but hasn't.

Mine hasn't called either. Lol

Who between the both of us did the right thing? How long should we wait before giving up.?

You Sir are a dumbass .

Ideally you are the man you should be defining and structuring pick ups and that means getting her number and hitting her up for a meeting.

Asides, why the hell are you creating a thread because of a woman who didn’t respond to you. Tells a lot about your scarcity mentality and desperation. Opening a bleeping thread over a woman choking on another man dick right now.
You should not be giving any Bleep when you deal with women unfortunately this one got you on lockdown.

Pick up yourself and go ask out / approach 50 new women . You know the guys who Bleep the most , they are also the guys who get rejected the most .

XhosaNostra:
Hahaha @ he declined taking her number. The card probably ended up in the nearest bin, where it belongs. The flies & maggots will call you

Hahaha, I do that a lot. In fact I won't even collect it or into the nearest bin. Mumu Alpha males, strong outside, soft inside. Yinmu.

seanwilliam:
you are not that intelligent, you are just like an average naija girl ( abi na from southy u come from ?) with a little exposure... when I saw your comment up there, I said wow, this girl has really cornered ubunja and was about to clap for you before I read this your post..
.

This honestly proves to me that girls have same brain no matter what.. no insult intended..

What makes you think I care about what you think? I don't. Idiotic or not, I will never make the 1st move on a man no matter what fàggoty tricks he pulls out his ass. If he doesn't take the initiative, that's the end of that because fùck him that's why.

XhosaNostra:



What makes you think I care about what you think? I don't. Idiotic or not, I will never make the 1st move on a man no matter what fàggoty tricks he pulls out his ass. If he doesn't take the initiative, that's the end of that because fùck him that's why.

Exactly. The only way you can pull such weak ass game is if you are celeb, famous or super rich which I bet the OP is none of.

A Man creates his frame, reality, and boundaries he doesn’t wait for women to structure them for him. So initiating contact or pick up falls into the confines of masculine duties .

Worst she will do his reject your advances and which you of course move on quickly.

seanwilliam:
you are not that intelligent, you are just like an average naija girl ( abi na from southy u come from ?) with a little exposure... when I saw your comment up there, I said wow, this girl has really cornered ubunja and was about to clap for you before I read this your post..
.

This honestly proves to me that girls have same brain no matter what.. no insult intended..

What is so unintelligent or intelligent because a woman says she prefers to be wooed? Its just an opinion , a preference for something. I dont eat eggs, it doesnt feel right to me , so going by this logic people who eat eggs are suddenly dumb and unintelligent. SMH

Jaqenhghar:

What is so unintelligent or intelligent because a woman says she prefers to be wooed? Its just an opinion , a preference for something. I dont eat eggs, it doesnt feel right to me , so going by this logic people who eat eggs are suddenly dumb and unintelligent. SMH

lol.. you struck the wrong cord bro.read between the line

daytona555:


Exactly. The only way you can pull such weak ass game is if you are celeb, famous or super rich which I bet the OP is none of.

A Man creates his frame, reality, and boundaries he doesn’t wait for women to structure them for him. So initiating contact or pick up falls into the confines of masculine duties .

Worst she will do his reject your advances and which you of course move on quickly.

I agree with you & the thing is, some of us have no problem matching a guy effort for effort once he gets the ball rolling. All these games end up spoiling things & in contrary to what some of these people believe, they do kill attraction. If you're declining to take a girl's number, in other words, you're putting yourself above her. She'll call you if she agrees lol. I won't You come at me maturely or piss off.

Pussy go scarce for u if u no stop this ur alpha or alhaji mentality

I wonder why Ubuntu's followers always go overboard with things. Some days ago, a follower was arguing that guys aren't supposed to relate or converse with ladies here no matter what because redpills doesn't allow it. Now another follower stupidly blown what he could have won out of unnecessary pride.

Yes I read the No approach No greenlight and I support it. Men shouldn't chase everything that's in skirts and should save themselves from unnecessary "magarism" . So I hold no brief against op for trying to use what he learned, however,op over did it! The girl offering her number after getting your card is a greenlight. An Alphamale will collect the number but won't call, this will put the girl in suspense thereby prompt her to call in order to find out why he hasn't called then the guy takes it off from there. That's how to do stuff. Not some outright bluff like you own the Moon, no sane being finds that attractive.

Op the stunt you pulled will not work on Nigerian girls especially the ones with value.Just forget the girl and move on because She will never call.If she does she can't be trusted, she's probably planning to teach you some lessons because that's something I would do.

seanwilliam:
lol.. you struck the wrong cord bro.read between the line

Naaaah bro there is no "between the lines" here man. U speaking english. U called her unintelligent because she said she will never budge or make the first move. You probably admired the fact that she is outspoken and somehow you thought that means she is the type to make the first move. Like I said it is an opinion. It is not about being intelligent or not. These days people tag whatever they disagree with as unintelligent or dumb.

XhosaNostra:


I laugh in Latin @ bolded. He better be ready for an epic standoff. I will never budge. Either a guy leads because I don't think I will ever respect someone with a passive approach. Never. I like mine to be go-getters & very traditional. All this sissy new age stuff can miss me.

as long as you never budge it just shows you think you're the Prize and the standoff itself sets the guy free to pursue a better girl for himself. A girl who thinks He is the Prize. Not every girl will see the guy as the prize. And it's OK. But he must only deal with ones who think he's the Prize.

Two people who think they're the Prize won't get anywhere.

And its not sissy or new age. Even Eve come to Adam. And it's an old principle I addressed at length in my writeup No Green Lights No Approach.

Ariza:
I wonder why Ubuntu's followers always go overboard with things. Some days ago, a follower was arguing that guys aren't supposed to relate or converse with ladies here no matter what because redpills doesn't allow it. Now another follower stupidly blown what he could have one out of unnecessary pride.

Yes I read the No approach No greenlight and I support it. Men shouldn't chase everything that's in skirts and should save themselves from unnecessary "magarism" . So I hold no brief against op for trying to use what he learned, however,op over did it! The girl offering her number after getting your card is a greenlight. An [b]Alphamale will collect the number but won't call, this will put the girl in suspense thereby prompt her to call in order to find out why he hasn't called[/b]then the guy takes it off from there. That's how to do stuff.

Op the stunt you pulled will not work on Nigerian girls especially the ones with value.Just forget the girl and move on because She will never call.If she does she can't be trusted, she's probably planning to teach you some lessons because that's something I would do.

Just curious, @ bolded, is that what you would do in a situation like that, give him a call?
Personally, a guy I just met & have no feelings for will never make me wonder why he hasn't called. Who cares? In a couple of days I will forget all about him if he doesn't let his presence known. Next! Hell, even a guy I have started to like, if he plays too many "suspense games", it's only a matter of time before I start losing interest. I guess as women we're all different.

daytona555:


Exactly. The only way you can pull such weak ass game is if you are celeb, famous or super rich which I bet the OP is none of.

A Man creates his frame, reality, and boundaries he doesn’t wait for women to structure them for him. So initiating contact or pick up falls into the confines of masculine duties .

Worst she will do his reject your advances and which you of course move on quickly.

Bless you. Look at the picture. A man will
Wants to be wooed
Doesnt want to spend when they go out
Expects her to pay instead
Then wants to
Dictate what she wears
Her friends
Sex when he wants
And expects all to be well.

CAPSLOCKED:


Ill message you later so I patronize you.
meanwhile I sell ladies slippers and underwears, which means I'm broke, therefore, no matter what I say on the internet, it must never count as a valid opinion just because I have no money.

LOGIC!

Omar09:


Rub it on my broke face why don't ya?

Well I am broke and sells recharge card and also I want Capslocked to reply my comments... I guess that makes all I've said here on this thread wrong.

I was wrong for trying.

I have money; I say the moon is made of cheese, and gravity isn't a thing. I must be right, and my opinion is valid because I have money. Evidence doesn't matter. As long you have money, you are always right and fit to make an argument. If you are broke, you are...

ubunja:
as long as you never budge it just shows you think you're the Prize and the standoff itself sets the guy free to pursue a better girl for himself. A girl who thinks He is the Prize. Not every girl will see the guy as the prize. And it's OK. But he must only deal with ones who think he's the Prize.

Two people who think they're the Prize won't get anywhere.

And its not sissy or new age. Even Eve come to Adam. And it's an old principle I addressed at length in my writeup No Green Lights No Approach.

LOL! Oh well then.

It's sissy to me because, traditionally a man leads. Finish. One who expects a female to court him & reach out to him 1st is not a man, at least in my book.

Some will rather die than agree with Ubunja. Some will spend so much time and effort disproving any miseducation from Ubunja like their lives depend on it. Whew!

the OP has a low IQ

He is not an intelligent boy...turn off

XhosaNostra:


Just curious, @ bolded, is that what you would do in a situation like that, give him a call?
Personally, a guy I just met & have no feelings for will never make me wonder why he hasn't called. Who cares? In a couple of days I will forget all about him if he doesn't let his presence known. Next! Hell, even a guy I have started to like, if he plays too many "suspense games", it's only a matter of time before I start losing interest. I guess as women we're all different.

If I fancy a sane guy not the op kind of guy who reject my move, I will! What's in a call? I call friends to check sometimes scroll through my contacts just to check on random people if they are good. It's nothing if I initiate a call to the guy I fancy, it shows I'm interested and that would give the guy a clue. However, I won't chase a guy neither will I stand mind games. For me,things happen and flow naturally when I notice some superficiality, I turn tables if I am not emotionally invested but if I am, I walk out.

The bolded? If the feeling isn't there, lol he's on his own.

ubunja:
no Greenlights no Approach.

And no collecting of phone numbers. We GIVE phone numbers. Not take them. The woman must be the driver/pusher for it to work.

But this is just common sense na
.. I wonder why some guys don't get it... If a girl doesn't give me green light I don't approach or shoot my shot... All through my years of dating I have only missed once with this strategy... Lol..

Worse case I go jus de carry you play for WhatsApp... Why would I be chasing a girl up and down like say she be oxygen when babes full everywhere

Jaqenhghar:

Naaaah bro there is no "between the lines" here man. U speaking english. U called her unintelligent because she said she will never budge or make the first move. You probably admired the fact that she is outspoken and somehow you thought that means she is the type to make the first move. Like I said it is an opinion. It is not about being intelligent or not. These days people tag whatever they disagree with as unintelligent or dumb.

lol ... ok I agree

XhosaNostra:


A booby prize, maybe. Very few ladies will make the 1st move to approach a guy, even when they like him. Effeminate qualities are an extreme turn off for me. Once I notice that someone expects me to be in my masculine energy & do the chasing. I lose interest because I'm not a lesbian, won't put up with a man that exhibits ladylike characteristics. A man is supposed to take the bull by the horns, that's what separates fàggots from real men. Your prizes will either collect dust or get thrown away as soon as someone realizes that they're just plastic material from a lucky packet. You can think you're the prize all you want, but it's always going to be someone else that will determine or calculate your worth.

From the quoted, I can deduce with alacrity that you're bitter, overly staved off, arrogant, and with a peanut size brain.

You can actually express yourself without degrading lesbians or LGBTQ members alike by calling them "fagg0ts".

In this century, it actually shows you off as immature and lame. I have numerous lesbian friends, and a few gays. Being called 'fagg0t' is an offensive term. Even NL understands that, which is why it automatically translates it to gay.

But strong-headed homophobes like you will rather use special characters to shove down their hatred down our throat.

Don't be offended, I find it hard dealing with folks like you nicely. I like going RAW!

Shalom!

eterisan:


But this is just common sense na
.. I wonder why some guys don't get it... If a girl doesn't give me green light I don't approach or shoot my shot... For over 10 years of dating I have only missed once with this strategy... Lol..

Worse case I go jus de carry you play for WhatsApp... Why would I be chasing a girl up and down like say she be oxygen when babes full everywhere

you'll be surprised how uncommon common sense is lmfao.

XhosaNostra:



LOL! Oh well then.

It's sissy to me because, traditionally a man leads. Finish. One who expects a female to court him & reach out to him 1st is not a man, at least in my book.

I disagree though
I have shoot my shot before I asked first

Martinez39s:
Some will rather die than agree with Ubunja. Some will spend so much time and effort disproving any miseducation from Ubunja like their life depends on it. Whew!

I have a feeling even if they do by chance apply what we teach (and it works) they'll not come back and admit it. I dont see that happening.

XhosaNostra:



LOL! Oh well then.

It's sissy to me because, traditionally a man leads. Finish. One who expects a female to court him & reach out to him 1st is not a man, at least in my book.

it gives the man confirmation that you're equally desiring him when you initiate communications especially at the start out.

The man will lead when things have officially started. But at that crucial early stage, the woman's actions help the guy.

But not every girl will do this. Only a few. And the guy must only deal with these.

Ariza:
If I fancy a sane guy not the op kind of guy who reject my move, I will! What's in a call? I call friends to check sometimes scroll through my contacts just to check on random people if they are good. It's nothing if I initiate a call to the guy I fancy, it shows I'm interested and that would give the guy a clue. However, I won't chase a guy neither will I stand mind games. For me,things happen and flow naturally when I notice some superficiality, I turn tables if I am not emotionally invested but if I am, I walk out.

The bolded? If the feeling isn't there, lol he's on his own.

Oh, I see. Interesting

HenryDion:


From the quoted, I can deduce with alacrity that you're bitter, overly staved off, arrogant, and with a peanut size brain.

You can actually express yourself without degrading lesbians or LGBTQ members alike by calling them "fagg0ts".

In this century, it actually shows you off as immature and lame. I have numerous lesbian friends, and a few gays. Being called 'fagg0t' is an offensive term. Even NL understands that, which is why it automatically translates it to gay.

But strong-headed homophobes like you will rather use special characters to shove down their hatred down our throat.

Don't be offended, I find it hard dealing with folks like you nicely. I like going RAW!

Shalom!

And here's what I think of your opinion.

Ladyhippolyta88:

I disagree though
I have shoot my shot before I asked first

And how did it go for you?

I can't. Never. Deep inside I'm a traditionalist, especially when it comes to relationships. If he doesn't take the 1st strike, I won't. It ends there for me.