mrvitalis:
The simple truth is only equity and justice can unite the south ...but yorubas want to be the Lord's of the south ....

All igbos are saying is simple , let's as south maintain the zoning formulae , that's the only way any of us stand a chance against north ,
Today it's igbo turn buh just because yorubas think they can get northern votes they want to put an end to zoning ,it's crazy but we igbos just they watch by the side

On what ground bro,
U mean zoning formula for APC or PDP, if it's APC, forget about it concerning the flag bearer come 2023, you don't reap where you didn't sow...

LabDNA:
Like I've reiterated, we are not begging.

But if yorubas want to be realistic and wise, they'll understand that an Eastern presidency is more beneficial to yoruba aspiration than against it.

The faster it happens, the quicker yoruba presidential aspirations are also realized. Zoning means that every region's presidential aspirations are tied to the other. #Fact

If I were them, even if I don't like Igbos, I'll drop emotions and become the biggest supporter of Eastern presidency just like Ndigbo supported OBJ, so that it can get to yorubaland quicker. It's common sense.

though I never wanted to comment but bro forget it, blackmail will never win u presidency.

Nothing like being realistic or wise here,it's agreed d battle is between d south n I believe d Igbos always believe they are superior to other southerners.

Oga abeg let's leave blackmail aside,let a Yoruba man n an Igbo man battle it out.the Igbos have supported d PDP for complete 20 years let them get their reward from there n d Yorubas should get their reward from APC......Then leave d rest for the north to judge who to vote for..simple as ABC

adebayo10977:


On what ground bro,
U mean zoning formula for APC or PDP, if it's APC, forget about it concerning the flag bearer come 2023, you don't reap where you didn't sow...

Ok na ...

MetaPhysical:


You were vocal on Sowore...or you mocked Sowore?

You voted Obasanjo because Yoruba were behind Falae....and you wanted to oppose the Yoruba confidence in Falae...

Oga stop bleating red colors here.

No wahala ...support Joe igbokwe na

LabDNA:


Your 'longthroat' for presidency is dependent on another region saying 'No' to the presidency but you are asking why one's sucess is dependent on another failure? Joker!

Oga leave emotions, and show us if the body language of the north, implies that they are not interested in ruling? Point to one Northern leader today who is keen on yoruba rule? Just one, even if it's an Islamic cleric of a mosque in katsina.

You are the one who wants to kill zoning due to greedy and hate for equity yet you cry fowl because the rug is about to pulled from under your leg by the rest of the south like you've always done to others.

Stop being emotional, if APC zones the ticket to yoruba and kills the zoning principle, YOU ARE FACING THE NORTH+SESS at the polls. No emotional goading, name-calling or insult can change that. Shikena!

this lab rat I are too delusional n too unbelievable, despite what u people have done to buhari I believe d north will vote for u.

it's obvious u haven't been to d north b4,if I have been dere then u shouldn't make that careless statement.Though I really don't know much about SS but an average Igbo man should forget d north cause d time they were trying to heal up is the time Nnamdi Kanu pepper old wound

Unik3030:
this lab rat I are too delusional n too unbelievable, despite what u people have done to buhari I believe d north will vote for u.

it's obvious u haven't been to d north b4,if I have been dere then u shouldn't make that careless statement.Though I really don't know much about SS but an average Igbo man should forget d north cause d time they were trying to heal up is the time Nnamdi Kanu pepper old wound

Mr illiterate Ewedurudeen, you are my experimental lab wister rat while I remain your Scientist. That's what your constitution says.

The North transcends Buhari. Ahmadu Bello is greater than Buharo yet after Ahmadu Bello was killed, with all the yoruba ant-Igbo propaganda Igbo still got VP and several Senate president position.

When Buhari goes and a level headed Northerner come aboard, water will still find it's level. I served in the North and Abokiis consider yorubanza politically unreliable, helping other tribes to win election for the first time just yesterday in 2015 because your son was running mate won't change anything.

Buhari is the most incompetent northern leader, many of them are ashamed of him. When he is gone like Ahmadu bello, the north will still play politics, your propaganda nonetheless. Get a proper education.

mrvitalis:
The simple truth is only equity and justice can unite the south ...but yorubas want to be the Lord's of the south ....

All igbos are saying is simple , let's as south maintain the zoning formulae , that's the only way any of us stand a chance against north ,
Today it's igbo turn buh just because yorubas think they can get northern votes they want to put an end to zoning ,it's crazy but we igbos just they watch by the side

Oga stop talking about politics like it's a business of buying and selling cars... It's much more. This is the exact same reason why the Igbo are not getting enough from the federation.
All Igbo is saying this and that Everytime..
How many of the Eastern governors and political class are currently gearing up for the office of the president? Instead of putting their houses in order and speaking with one voice, they are busy bringing down some other persons... Even the ones that try to play national politics you criticize them as being slaves to notheners..
Tell me one Igbo man that is seriously vying for the office of the president and have the support of 1/3 of the political class in Igbo land!
That should be your concern, not what Yoruba is/is not doing.
I hope you understand.

MarrisManah:

Oga stop talking about politics like it's a business of buying and selling cars... It's much more. This is the exact same reason why the Igbo are not getting enough from the federation.
All Igbo is saying this and that Everytime..
How many of the Eastern governors and political class are currently gearing up for the office of the president? Instead of putting their houses in order and speaking with one voice, they are busy bringing down some other persons... Even the ones that try to play national politics you criticize them as being slaves to notheners..
Tell me one Igbo man that is seriously vying for the office of the president and have the support of 1/3 of the political class in Igbo land!
That should be your concern, not what Yoruba is/is not doing.
I hope you understand.

You guys are funny ? How do you know if they are preparing or not ?
You guys just poke nose on other forgetting u are doing same if not worse ...

Tell me one thing any Yoruba person has done that an igbo politician hasn't done towards 2023

LabDNA:


Mr illiterate Ewedurudeen, you are my experimental lab wister rat while I remain your Scientist. That's what your constitution says.

The North transcends Buhari. Ahmadu Bello is greater than Buharo yet after Ahmadu Bello was killed, with all the yoruba ant-Igbo propaganda Igbo still got VP and several Senate president position.

When Buhari goes and a level headed Northerner come aboard, water will still find it's level. I served in the North and Abokiis consider yorubanza politically unreliable, helping other tribes to win election for the first time just yesterday in 2015 because your son was running mate won't change anything.

Buhari is the most incompetent northern leader, many of them are ashamed of him. When he is gone like Ahmadu bello, the north will still play politics, your propaganda nonetheless. Get a proper education.

so if they are to present an Igbo man n a Yoruba man as presidential candidate,who do I think d northerners will vote?

so u think d northerners have forgotten how I called their hero a gworo chewing bastard n how u don't play politics but u hate.

with the way u have treated buhari since he became the president n how Nnamdi Kanu embarrassed him n u play along to the extent of d Kaduna declaration,do u think d hausas will vote u?

Igbos are d only tribe in d world who will hate I n call u derogatory names only for them to ask for your most prized possession d next minute

You are talking about a concept that you don't fully understand- ZONING.

Let me explain it to you but by bit.

1) Zoning was first suggested as a vehicle for political cohesion in Nigeria by Dr Alex Ekwueme during the formative days of the NPN in 1977-78.

2) The NPN adopted zoning in it's constitution as a winning formula by appealing to ALL sections of Nigeria that they will get shares of the National cake because party and Government positions will be shared and rotated accross board.

3) The PDP borrowed the NPN winning formula called 'Zoning' and incorporated it into it's Constitution.

This zoning is not in the Constitution of Nigeria or the Constitution of other parties.

4) In 1999, the PDP zoned it's presidential ticket to the South. ALL Geo-Political zones in the South contested for the ticket but Gen Olusegun Obasanjo clinched it.

5) In 2007, the PDP re-assessed it's zoning formula and rezoned it's presidential ticket to the North. The then Gov Umoru Yar'Adua defeated other contestants to clinched the ticket.

6) In May, 2010, President Yar'Adua died and was succeeded by his deputy, Dr Goodluck Jonathan who contested the 2011 PDP presidential Primaries despite the fact that this action violated the PDP zoning arrangements


Most Nigerian voters were sympathetic to his candidacy because he is from a minority tribe and we all stood up for him and he won the elections.
7) In 2015, despite that the PDP hasn't changed it's zoning of the ticket to the North and GEJ had earlier promised to do one term, he contested again but he was defeated at the general election.

In 2015, after losing the election, the PDP again zoned it presidential ticket to the North and maintained the same in 2019.

9) In all of these, no region enforced or disregard zoning but individual political parties and politicians did.

10) Asking the Yorubas or any tribe to obey zoning is inappropriate.
It's the political parties and NOT tribes that can decide where they will zone their presidential ticket to.

11) The PDP, which ought to be sympathetic to the cause of the Igbo Presidency is opposed to it but rather toying with the idea of still zoning it's ticket to the North in 2023 and this is NOT the fault of the Yorubas.

12) In my personal view, interested Yoruba, Fulani, Nupe, Ebira, Ijaw politicians who nurse presidential ambitions should run in 2023 and damn any consequences.
It's better to contest and lose than succumbing to cheap political blackmail by not constisting.




In Summary, it is ONLY the political parties that can determine where they will zone their presidential ticket to.

mrvitalis:

You really don't get it ...we are saying to yorubas obey zoning or we show u that not only you can be crazy enough to vote north it's simple

Igbos would never stand by n watch north mess up a Yoruba man , reason we took obasanjo as our own ...even if we didn't want to we were vocal on sowore it's our nature

Igbo would never support a Yoruba man in 2023 not out of hate or envy but simply because it's not right an d it's unjust ....even if it was south south turn or middle belt turn we would still do the same thing

Igbos really don't care about political position reason we can let it out untill yorubas learn

Oshigun:


Do you want us to revisit Nairaland archives when Igbos, drunk on the urine fumes of the GEJ presidency, swore in 2014-2015 that "Aboki will never rule Nigeria again"? You are up to your empty and impotent noise-making again.

When a Yoruba is sworn in as Presidentin 2023 I will remind you to pack your bags and move to Afghanistan or Wuhan in China.

@Bolded;
Then you would have woken up from your slumber, hopefully.

Unik3030:
so if they are to present an Igbo man n a Yoruba man as presidential candidate,who do I think d northerners will vote?

so u think d northerners have forgotten how I called their hero a gworo chewing bastard n how u don't play politics but u hate.

with the way u have treated buhari since he became the president n how Nnamdi Kanu embarrassed him n u play along to the extent of d Kaduna declaration,do u think d hausas will vote u?

Igbos are d only tribe in d world who will hate I n call u derogatory names only for them to ask for your most prized possession d next minute

Oga, is your skull made of stone? Don't you get my message?
There can be no Igbo vs yoruba election situation, there can be no yoruba vs yoruba too. If zoning must be respected it will be Igbo vs Igbo just like it was yoruba vs yoruba in 1999 when they took their share of the zoning formular.

If yoruba decides to contest in APC, thereby killing the zoning formular, Hausa and Fulani also has the right to contest, and you'll face them at the polls, specifically on PDP with the SESS region whom you think you can outsmart supporting them strongly
Ofcourse we all know how the result will swing.

mrvitalis:

Yorubas didn't insult igbos or Jonathan ? They dey deployed media against the admistration ...even me fell for it

Igbos don't Insuky yorubas because they voted a Fulanis ...igbos are angry because they betrayed the south to hand power back to the north ...simple Jonathan was a means to take control away from the fulanis

Indeed wisdom is different from knowledge and knowledge is different from intelligence...mrvitalis THIS was my sole reason for voting Jonathan in 2015...we told you and the likes of beremx to see our point for the collective good but you got swayed by the media machinations from the west! It wasn't because Jonathan was all so perfect but that he was a better man(and administrator) than Buhari AND that it was the south's last chance to completely stamp out the stranglehold of the north in power...it was the south's chance of telling the fulani hegemony that they are not born to rule, and that the British didn't hand them Nigeria as their play toy! That was the bigger picture...it was our chance to have equal say in Abuja as southerners..in the ministries and parasatals....in the oil sector and customs...in the army, navy and airforce...to have equal control..I still wonder how learned people(both young and old) from the south couldn't just see this?!! How!??

LabDNA:


Oga, is your skull made of stone? Don't you get my message?
There can be no Igbo vs yoruba election situation, there can be no yoruba vs yoruba too. If zoning must be respected it will be Igbo vs Igbo just like it was yoruba vs yoruba in 1999 when they took their share of the zoning formular.

If yoruba decides to contest in APC, thereby killing the zoning formular, Hausa and Fulani also has the right to contest, and you'll face them at the polls, specifically on PDP with the SESS region whom you think you can outsmart supporting them strongly
Ofcourse we all know how the result will swing.

can't d Igbos face d Yoruba alone?are they afraid?y are u lumping Se n SS together?can't d Igbos fight alone without any attachment?

mrvitalis:

If I was from South West and we make 65% of Nigeria's revenue ( I wonder what oil contribute ) ...supporting this current system means I'm very foolish ...regional government would be my number one target not even presidency

Igbos contribute nothing , we have hear ,help us push for regional government na so we won't steal your 65%

North east and south west contribute 75% of Nigerian revenue , south south say 20% middle belts 3% north west 2% and south east 0% we agree no wahala ...when true federalism start we go know who be who

have u forgotten osun state igr is bigger than the whole southeast until breeze blow foul gnash open and we found out the poorest state is actually osun

AkpaMgbor:

Indeed wisdom is different from knowledge and knowledge is different from intelligence...mrvitalis THIS was my sole reason for voting Jonathan in 2015...we told you and the likes of beremx to see our point for the collective good but you got swayed by the media machinations from the west! It wasn't because Jonathan was all so perfect but that he was a better man(and administrator) than Buhari AND that it was the south's last chance to completely stamp out the stranglehold of the north in power...it was the south's chance of telling the fulani hegemony that they are not born to rule, and that the British didn't hand them Nigeria as their play toy! That was the bigger picture...it was our chance to have equal say in Abuja as southerners..in the ministries and parasatals....in the oil sector and customs...in the army, navy and airforce...to have equal control..I still wonder how learned people(both young and old) from the south couldn't just see this?!! How!??

@the bolded, what was Jonathan doing during 2011-2015 when the southerners voted him in their majority including southwest?

Was he drunk during those 4years that he can’t implement all these beautiful manifesto you laid out here. Why can’t Jonathan give all the southerners equal control in the navy and air force, Abuja and custom, etc during those said period?

FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF AFONJA

Congratulations to you on realizing how democracy works... you have inalienable right to vote for ANY.

However you should not question other citizens on who they vote for.

Blackfire:
I didn't vote for buhari in 2015 and 2019...



I can give you this assurance... I will campaign and vigorously vote for him in 2023.




Not only you people are mad

LegendHero:


@the bolded, what was Jonathan doing during 2011-2015 when the southerners voted him in their majority including southwest?

Was he drunk during those 4years that he can’t implement all these beautiful manifesto you laid out here. Why can’t Jonathan give all the southerners equal control in the navy and air force, Abuja and custom, etc during those said period?

Oh but he did, albeit gradually. His administration initiated and conducted a national conference for all and sundry including non politicians and professional bodies to work out the creases in this union for the way forward...the endpoint of that exercise? Buhari's government threw it in the trash bin. I know you're from southwest, I know you were part of those who kicked when Jonathan brought in your fellow southerners into government and parasatals, but because they were the 'wrong' southerners, you failed to see the bigger picture too!

Iamgrey5:
All over the internet today, some people are begging their northern masters to take them back and forgive them for voting a southerner in 2015.

We Yorubas have dealt with Fulani, Hausas and Nupe (Muslim north) before the advent of Nigeria and we already understand how to deal with them.

Meanwhile some people are still learning.

Lmao no wonder we have a Yoruba emirate in Sokoto.

Jokers .

mrvitalis:

You really don't get it ...we are saying to yorubas obey zoning or we show u that not only you can be crazy enough to vote north it's simple

Igbos would never stand by n watch north mess up a Yoruba man , reason we took obasanjo as our own ...even if we didn't want to we were vocal on sowore it's our nature

Igbo would never support a Yoruba man in 2023 not out of hate or envy but simply because it's not right an d it's unjust ....even if it was south south turn or middle belt turn we would still do the same thing

Igbos really don't care about political position reason we can let it out untill yorubas learn

Unity beggar..

mrvitalis:

You guys are funny ? How do you know if they are preparing or not ?
You guys just poke nose on other forgetting u are doing same if not worse ...

Tell me one thing any Yoruba person has done that an igbo politician hasn't done towards 2023

Anyone critical of Igbo politicians automatically becomes a Yoruba.. anyway, that's not the issue now.
1/3 of Yoruba will gladly support tinubu or whoever he backs come 2023, who do we have in the east that's seriously contemplating to be the head of state and enjoys such support from us..? That should bother any well meaning Igbo man/woman. All the governors are after is going to the Senate to continue siphoning public funds for themselves and cronies.
This is time for negotiations, lobbying and compromise not when we're in 2022, you'll see them running from Piller to posts looking for who to blame.
As for doing something, my brother, NON OF THEM is doing anything. If they were, we'll be aware.

MarrisManah:

Anyone critical of Igbo politicians automatically becomes a Yoruba.. anyway, that's not the issue now.
1/3 of Yoruba will gladly support tinubu or whoever he backs come 2023, who do we have in the east that's seriously contemplating to be the head of state and enjoys such support from us..? That should bother any well meaning Igbo man/woman. All the governors are after is going to the Senate to continue siphoning public funds for themselves and cronies.
This is time for negotiations, lobbying and compromise not when we're in 2022, you'll see them running from Piller to posts looking for who to blame.
As for doing something, my brother, NON OF THEM is doing anything. If they were, we'll be aware.

Umiah ,Peter obi , soludo ,chidoka ,who ever decide to contest would get over 80% support from igbos ...at least 60% from South south
And surely 25% from South West can u say the same for tinubu ?

There is no politician in South West that's a match for Peter obi or umiah ... absolutely no in terms of performance none

Who told u they are not negotiating ? Must they expose their strategy for u to know they are working ?

If igbos don't get it Yorubas won't get it going by the zoning

mrvitalis:

Umiah ,Peter obi , soludo ,chidoka ,who ever decide to contest would get over 80% support from igbos ...at least 60% from South south
And surely 25% from South West can u say the same for tinubu ?

There is no politician in South West that's a match for Peter obi or umiah ... absolutely no in terms of performance none

Who told u they are not negotiating ? Must they expose their strategy for u to know they are working ?

The people you listed are laughable, reason is non of them have enough appeal outside the Eastern Nigeria! Chidoka and Soludo are way too off the mark- I hope you don't argue this.
As for Obi and Umahi, both are pdp... How can they match tinubu(or whoever he's fronting) in terms of nothern votes...? See, politics is not a straight path, you've got to want it to a point it's practically impossible to deny you. I expected Umahi to be a full-time member of Apc by now if indeed he's serious! All the political structures in Ebonyi and Imo should be dominated by the Apc... That's what it means to actually want it bro!
Now this is the bombshell- if the Yoruba secures 2023 Apc presidential ticket, Igbos should forget winning with pdp as it's practically and politically impossible! There best bet in pdp will be supporting a northerner, with the hope of getting it by 2032. Yes, politics is that serious even though it sounds funny! In all sincerity (I hope I'm wrong) Igbos are not prepared to be president come 2023.
The only high ranking igbo politician in Apc with a lot of appeal in the north has been caged, at least for now- Orji Uzo Kalu. And his brethren are foolishly celebrating..

MarrisManah:

The people you listed are laughable, reason is non of them have enough appeal outside the Eastern Nigeria! Chidoka and Soludo are way too off the mark- I hope you don't argue this.
As for Obi and Umahi, both are pdp... How can they match tinubu(or whoever he's fronting) in terms of nothern votes...? See, politics is not a straight path, you've got to want it to a point it's practically impossible to deny you. I expected Umahi to be a full-time member of Apc by now if indeed he's serious! All the political structures in Ebonyi and Imo should be dominated by the Apc... That's what it means to actually want it bro!
Now this is the bombshell- if the Yoruba secures 2023 Apc presidential ticket, Igbos should forget winning with pdp as it's practically and politically impossible! There best bet in pdp will be supporting a northerner, with the hope of getting it by 2032. Yes, politics is that serious even though it sounds funny! In all sincerity (I hope I'm wrong) Igbos are not prepared to be president come 2023.
The only high ranking igbo politician in Apc with a lot of appeal in the north has been caged, at least for now- Orji Uzo Kalu. And his brethren are foolishly celebrating..

PDP is penetrating the north .... PDP would get 40% or more in states like sokoto ,bauchi , zamfara , kaduna and largely Kano and this is largely north west ... without buhari on the ballot ...turn out would drop ...umiah is loved by the north ,.....with a North West vice ....Peter obi or umiah are sure of 35% to 45% of North west votes

North east , with it Christian population n PDP strength , PDP can easily get 4O%

North Central is going to be shared

South south 75% PDP ,and revenge for 2015
South west ...igbos would get 30% no doubt ...we would be ready in Lagos ... violence for violence , blood for blood

South east ...98% PDP you self know

The maths is simple ....u won't get block vote from the north like PMB simple

UdechiHD:
[s]Trash! Which part of the north outpaces the SE? Is it NW, NE or NC? No part of north can lace the SE shoes in the contributions to the federal revenue. The oil wells in Imo, Abia and Anambra covers all the groundnuts and mining activities that the Notth brings to the table. Even the Industries in the SE dwarfs all what you have in Kano and Kaduna. The operations of the multinational oil firm in Imo alone dwarf all the peanuts you’ve ever contributed since independence.
We are talking about billions of dollars here and not peanuts.[/s]

Stop presenting your primary school sort of analysis,simply go and check the info on generated revenues.The bokoharam ravaged NE is the only region were you generate more than.Ogun state alone is more than the entire SE combined.

mrvitalis:

PDP is penetrating the north .... PDP would get 40% or more in states like sokoto ,bauchi , zamfara , kaduna and largely Kano and this is largely north west ... without buhari on the ballot ...turn out would drop ...umiah is loved by the north ,.....with a North West vice ....Peter obi or umiah are sure of 35% to 45% of North west votes

North east , with it Christian population n PDP strength , PDP can easily get 4O%

North Central is going to be shared

South south 75% PDP ,and revenge for 2015
South west ...igbos would get 30% no doubt ...we would be ready in Lagos ... violence for violence , blood for blood

South east ...98% PDP you self know

The maths is simple ....u won't get block vote from the north like PMB simple

When you quote abitrary percentages without statistical back up, it's just so amusing. 98% of South east is less/equa to 98% in Kano.
Anyways, k'oréé dika isi kwuo... Adios!

MarrisManah:

When you quote abitrary percentages without statistical back up, it's just so amusing. 98% of South east is less/equa to 98% in Kano.
Anyways, k'oréé dika isi kwuo... Adios!

Lol ask anyone here my presidential election calculation have never been wrong ....
Vote turn out in the east have been low since 2015 ...if north is not contesting same thing is bound to happen

There is absolutely no way APC can get more than 60% in Kano without buhari or a northerner on that sit

Peter obi would finish anyone from the West in a debate ...your media won't even save u

Rule that out, Igbos has NEVER voted Yorubas in history of our politics, they've always been Hausa Ally. You voted Obj in 1999 AGAINST Yoruba wish of Olu Falae, so what are you saying

mrvitalis:

You really don't get it ...we are saying to yorubas obey zoning or we show u that not only you can be crazy enough to vote north it's simple

Igbos would never stand by n watch north mess up a Yoruba man , reason we took obasanjo as our own ...even if we didn't want to we were vocal on sowore it's our nature

Igbo would never support a Yoruba man in 2023 not out of hate or envy but simply because it's not right an d it's unjust ....even if it was south south turn or middle belt turn we would still do the same thing

Igbos really don't care about political position reason we can let it out untill yorubas learn

LabDNA:


Oga, is your skull made of stone? Don't you get my message?
There can be no Igbo vs yoruba election situation, there can be no yoruba vs yoruba too. If zoning must be respected it will be Igbo vs Igbo just like it was yoruba vs yoruba in 1999 when they took their share of the zoning formular.

If yoruba decides to contest in APC, thereby killing the zoning formular, Hausa and Fulani also has the right to contest, and you'll face them at the polls, specifically on PDP with the SESS region whom you think you can outsmart supporting them strongly
Ofcourse we all know how the result will swing.

Guy don't be afraid naa deep down you know Yoruba will defeat Igbo in presidential election if they both contest so no vex every tribe hates you

LivingSage:
Rule that out, Igbos has NEVER voted Yorubas in history of our politics, they've always been Hausa Ally. You voted Obj in 1999 AGAINST Yoruba wish of Olu Falae, so what are you saying

Which Igbo have u voted against igbo wish ?