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Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by okpalaAnambra: 9:29am On May 03, 2020 |
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Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by okpalaAnambra: 9:30am On May 03, 2020 |
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Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by Nobody: 9:53am On May 03, 2020 |
samuk: Old video argument, looks like crutching.. Your argument is defeated already. "Senator Abaribe should not deny me my igbo heritage" -- Rotimi amaechi Chibuike Rotimi amaechi not only told the world that he is an igbo man , he also warned that nobody should deny him his Igboness https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yriYzb61PEM |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by samuk: 10:16am On May 03, 2020 |
Juliusmalema: Anybody in the south south that claims Igbo should be allowed to be Igbo, likewise anyone that refuses to be Igbo. The Dein of Agbor said he and his Agbor people are not Igbo that should also be respected. If Obi of Asaba comes out tomorrow and claim Igbo, he should be seen and respected as Igbo. When Zik traces his ancestral lineage to the Benin royal family, was he saying he wasn't Igbo? So what's the problem with the claim of Zik and his grandmother. The problem with those that lacks history is to diminished and rubbish the history of those that have, this is the reason you guys envy Zik and the Onitsha people so much. You guys have so much bully and cowered the Onitsha people that they are now afraid to tell their history, haven't finished with Onitsha, you moved into Anioma and south south. This is exactly what you find with the Yorubas, those that shout the most about Yoruba history were those whose ancestors where once used as sacrifices to the gods. The biggest opposition to a unified Yoruba at the beginning were the Ijebus which Yoruba history record as being those that were used for sacrifice. When Yoruba was coined from Oyo r' oba meaning Oyo is king of Yoruba, the Ijebus objected, when they didn't succeed, their son, Awolowo used his political position to make sure that the Ooni of Ife was elevated above the Alaafin of Oyo who actually had an empire and the strongest Yoruba Obas. Today, the Ijebus are the greatest promoters of Ife supremacy to spite the Oyo and Benin that also once dominated them. You guys are doing so much to deny people their history and replace it with your Nri fabrications because you are pursuing Biafra agenda. Anyone in the south south that wants to be Igbo is free to be Igbo and you can't force Igbo on those that don't want to be Igbo. |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by Nobody: 10:22am On May 03, 2020 |
samuk: Change of tune South south is not an ethnic group. I don't engage is meaningless argument or someone that is not stable. From Ikwerre and Anioma to South south and next to Ibiobio. What a useless argument. South south no be ethnic group Abeg. Childish tantrums. You are living in a kind of shadow and a sounding like a desperate one. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yriYzb61PEM https://www.nairaland.com/5818476/anioma-igbo-trends-twitter https://mobile.twitter.com/UcheOkoyep/status/1254411102714310657 Evidences are there before you. Moreover they are still alive.
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Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by Nobody: 12:07pm On May 03, 2020 |
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Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by samuk: 12:29pm On May 03, 2020 |
Stay out of south south, as you can see the nationalities of south south rejects Biafra. 1. Ibibio denounces inclusion in map of Biafra Biafra http://sunnewsonline.com/including-ibibio-in-biafra-map-an-affront-group/ 2. Urhobo denounces inclusion in map of Biafra http://www.vanguardngr.com/2015/11/urhobo-denounces-inclusion-in-map-of-biafra/ 3. Efik rejects Biafra Nnamdi Kanu’s IPOB warned by Efik group to leave them out of Biafra ‘shenanigans’ Read more: https://www.legit.ng/1113743-nnamdi-kanus-ipob-warned-by-efik-group-leave-biafra-shenanigans.html https://www.naij.com/1113743-nnamdi-kanus-ipob-warned-by-efik-group-leave-biafra-shenanigans.html 4. Anioma rejects Biafra. Stop dragging us into Biafra, Anioma people of Delta tell agitators http://sunnewsonline.com/stop-dragging-us-into-biafra-anioma-people-of-delta-tell-agitators 5. Ogoni rejects Biafra. Stop associating Ogoni with Biafra agitation, group warns Asari Dokubo. https://www.naij.com/1109544-stop-associating-ogoni-biafra-agitation-group-warns-asari-dokubo.html 6. Annangs rejection of Biafra. We are not ready to be slaves in Biafra ―Annang http://tribuneonlineng.com/not-ready-slaves-biafra-%E2%80%95annang 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 12:29pm On May 03, 2020 |
AreaFada2: Yea i kind off agree, in those times tribalism was not a big deal..... Unlike this present And the old lady probably didnt even attend schoils that we will say influence her thoughts Onitsha people in anambra are branch of anioma people in the niger delta..... |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by samuk: 12:32pm On May 03, 2020 |
Ghostwon5: Thanks for the correction. |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by Nobody: 12:37pm On May 03, 2020 |
samuk: No problem bro, I left a few comments with this account which I started today and will soon delete. Please check them out. Davidnazee Areafada gregyboy Samuk |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by samuk: 12:39pm On May 03, 2020 |
Ghostwon5: Okay |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by Nobody: 1:23pm On May 03, 2020 |
samuk: Anyway Bini is a small place to even argue with Igbos. RULED AND still ruled by Yoruba kings. Desperation of the highest order. Nobody will dream about Edo state in biafra. More like witches and wizard in biafra. Moreover Igbos have no business with you guys to even be discussing biafra with Benin. That's absurd. Highly unstable. LMAO |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by Nobody: 1:24pm On May 03, 2020 |
Not only Benin empire but Benin cage. |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by samuk: 1:37pm On May 03, 2020 |
Juliusmalema: You have serious issues that you should see a shrink. Where amongst the south south nationalities listed that rejected Biafra did you see Edo. Benin doesn't even know if there is such thing as Biafra agitations, it's our south south brothers you guys are trying to steal their land that came out in masses to protest against Biafra in their lands. Stay out of south south, you have been warned by the ethnic nationalities of south south. Biafra is the 5 states of south east, nothing more. You don't see the middle belt and the west trying to encroach into south south. We all have our regions and we should maintain our borders. |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by Nobody: 1:58pm On May 03, 2020 |
samuk: From Anioma to biafra to see to Ikwerre to SE to Igbos. back and forth useless argument from someone Yorubas are the one ruling them. Look for something else. You sounding funny and bored at same time. |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by RedboneSmith(m): 2:59pm On May 03, 2020 |
samuk: The part of this comment that I highlighted is heavy with irony. |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by samuk: 3:09pm On May 03, 2020 |
RedboneSmith: The fear of the late Sarduana was eventually justified in the end. Those that don't learn from history are bound to repeat its mistakes. Those romancing the Igbos from south south are ignorant of history. Everyone should stick to their borders and not trouble others. We can all live peacefully respecting each others. Those that were part of the old Benin kingdom would have learned from history that you don't have to lose your cultural independence and everything about you to be part of a larger union. As advanced as the United kingdom, the four nations that make up the union still maintain their independent identities despite coexisting for hundreds of years. The Irish, Scottish, Welsh and English are still very proud of their individual heritages and keep their languages and cultures alive even though all speak English as a common language and bear English names. The English don't fabricate the history of others or try to deny the culture and heritage of others. |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 3:43pm On May 03, 2020 |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by Nobody: 3:55pm On May 03, 2020 |
gregyboy: Abeg that guys argument is funny.His emotions are playing fast one on him not me. He is not stable. Wetin concern Igbos with Bini issue Abeg. Una done see us for Edo state dragging una land? |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 5:33pm On May 03, 2020 |
Juliusmalema: You also followed up using emotions Even if you have to attach emotions in your comments it should be directed to the pure truth I dont know what he said tho...... Benin and igbo culture meant in the anioma areas the anioma people have both benin and igbo bloodline..... But you igbos deny that fact that aniomas have any benin bloodline at all in them, but only accept the cultural influence because it is pronounce and not easily deniable And that should stop You igbos should stop being tribalistic because even the delta igbos wont claim full igbos neither will dey claim full edo |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by Nobody: 5:35pm On May 03, 2020 |
gregyboy: They knows who they are. Nobody is claiming Edo anything. You can only be Edo if you have such names. Nduka an Edo man ...very funny
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Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 5:37pm On May 03, 2020 |
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Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by gregyboy(m): 5:46pm On May 03, 2020 |
Juliusmalema: I know the monarch in this picture we attended the same secondary While in sec school he and is younger brother hid thier kingship identity...... His younger brother was my coursemate his name was emeke we tried calling him emeka he frowned at it we even called him igbo he. Also frowned at it too, we were confused at then we couldn't explain his reluctantcy towards igbo, but one thing i could remeber he was fascinated by edo history but we couldn't still understand the mystery untill this is elder brother was crowned after years after we left secondary sechool everything began occurring to me Again Show me any anioma who claim igbo..... Because they have igbo name does that change the fact they aint mixed Hausas have islamic names does that make them fulanis..... Think
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Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by Nobody: 5:53pm On May 03, 2020 |
gregyboy: That Means Edo man answering Olusegun or ayomide is now a Yoruba man. You guys can fabricate lies ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Tuehhh You guys will keep diminishing unasef and oba further with all these petty lies because a time will come not even a child will regard because of desperation. Issele uku man answers Emeka to the last. Kwale/Ukwuani axis will answer both Emeka and emeke. Even chukwuemeka. Liars. |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by Nobody: 5:55pm On May 03, 2020 |
Argument without reasoning is purely born of desperation and ignorance. |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by AreaFada2: 5:58pm On May 03, 2020 |
gregyboy:Zik born in 1904 probably heard that story from around 1912 to 1925. A period Bein was still at its lowest for about 900 years. Benin was no more dominant as an empire, in fact Eweka I was just using wisdom and tenacity in dealing with the British to get Benin by. No political advantage to gain from Benin. Even in 1970, I see nothing from political calculation for Zik to gain. In fact he infuriated Ojukwu who was bent on taking all of what is now South South. Even invading neutral Midwest years earlier. That invasion means Edo and Delta cannot be neutral again in any matter concerning Biafra. Because our neutrality seeking to be a peacemaker was rewarded with a bad coin. It sowed the seed of suspicion about Igbo domination agenda. That guy you are replying just learnt the word fabricate. Lol. Of course replying him is for the benefit of reasonable silent readers. Because if you tell him we are in the month of May he will still call it fabrication. |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 6:26pm On May 03, 2020 |
AreaFada2: No parts of Igbo land traces their origin to Bini by tradition. In the field of research you must present verifiable fact according to traditional realities to get a headway. Zik is not a historian and yes the fable he was told were tales by the moon light told to us by our grand parents...the ones that starts with Obodo Iduu na Oba. You are holding very tightly to only Ziks story because it favors your little Bini village. |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by Nobody: 6:27pm On May 03, 2020 |
IDENNAA: I think you confuse Benin city with Benin kingdom. Benin city is to Benin Kingdom what London is to England. Or what Abuja is to Nigeria. Benin city is only the capital ! The sit of power of the Kingdom/empire which comprises many other cities and villages of which the Anioma, Lagos, Esan, Warri are parts. Precolonial map of Benin empire: https://www.raremaps.com/gallery/detail/64869/africae-tabula-nova-ortelius http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b77595185.r=Benin?rk=21459;2 http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b7759521n.r=Benin?rk=21459;2 An other map of Benin made in the 17th century once again: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b530530714.r=Benin?rk=214593;2 An other map of Benin from the 17th century: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b8595583b.r=Benin?rk=193134;0 This one date to the 19th century: http://gallica.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/btv1b846939
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Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 6:32pm On May 03, 2020 |
AreaFada2: Bring the researched facts that proved Onicha were once Bini people or you can keep mute. Edo and Delta is a vague representation, be very specific. The same neutral Delta was the origin of the 1966 coupe led by mostly Anioma generals.... You little Bini aggressors thought you are wise but we have your brain matters in our palms. You want Anioma ? The same Anioma where your Nigerian soldiers commited genocide ?? We have you on a headlock ! 1 Like |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 6:37pm On May 03, 2020 |
Ghostwon5: Listen attentively , that map was man made. Otherwise , how come the same Bini that you claim covered these areas have absolutely no influence in the same region. Your language was never spoken there , you culture and social style was never practiced , you dog a hole around you in attempt to ward off enemies....now this is quite funny, the same people you claimed to rule over where the same people you are scared to interact with? You guys are bunch of clowns |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by Nobody: 6:43pm On May 03, 2020 |
IDENNAA: 1) These maps are dated, they were drawn by eyewitnesses whom have been dead for hundreds of years. 2) do I really need to get into the inconsistencies of your write-up ? 3)city walls: well Paris also had city walls, so in your logics, Paris was never the capital of France ? Rome also had city walls... City walls are a sign of an advanced civilisation. You wouldn't know though. 4) the Greek, ottoman, Roman, persian, Mongol empires each comprises several kingdoms with different cultures and languages 5)you hear the words of zik and then you say it is fairytales, you see maps drawn by eyewitness, you also claim "well na man made", well I can't argue with that, except the man who made it was an eyewitness to the past. 6) you are obviously in denial of a proven fact. |
Re: Stop Promoting Igbo Culture Says Dein Of Agbor by IDENNAA(m): 7:14pm On May 03, 2020 |
gregyboy: Your brain is very dense , bikonu ! The same ignorant traditional ruler from Isele Ukwu who went to Oba of Bini to embarrass himself and thereby reducing the worth of his throne and his people was also at Obi of Onicha palace during Ofala festival. He believed the lie that his people migrated from Bini and were relatives to Onicha Mmili. However , same Onicha Mmili led by Agbogidi Nnanyelugo Achebe told BBC blatantly that Onicha were Igbos on reverse migration. However, the king w/o self respect is in his twenty while Ogbu Onye Mbosi Ndu na Agunaria is a well educated and traveled man with abundant riches, so who do we believe based on traditional realities. Ralph Uwechue was the past president of Ohaneze Ndigbo , he is Anioma , Utomi is Anioma , my inlaws are Anioma and you claimed you never saw any Anioma person claim Igbo ? You are sad ! If he was fascinated with Edo culture let them practice Edo culture...stop practicing Igbo culture |
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