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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by princdebola201(m): 12:53pm On May 06, 2020
horsepower102:


True economic activities are reduced because of the main family's absence but there is enough jobs to go around for technicians servicing families that are there year round. And more and more business men are leaving their families in the East to go other places to do business. Things are changing now.
there re millions of redudant houses in south east thats why there is little economic activities going on there.
Instead of building redudant houses why not move investment there that will imcrease economic activities

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 1:01pm On May 06, 2020
princdebola201:
there re millions of redudant houses in south east thats why there is little economic activities going on there.
Instead of building redudant houses why not move investment there that will imcrease economic activities

You keep parroting this false statement. At this point I will just leave you to your beliefs. How can the houses be redundant when they are fully occupied? In fact more houses need to be built. There is shortage of housing everywhere in the East and in Nigeria overall.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by cjrane: 1:04pm On May 06, 2020
Believe Nigerian statistics at your peril!

I don't understand the younger yoruba generation. Nigeria cannot count even the number of people in Nigeria nor even count the number of votes in a ward election. Yet, you think it's the complex algorithm and calculation of poverty index that they can do?

Keep deluding yourself grin grin grin

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by princdebola201(m): 1:08pm On May 06, 2020
horsepower102:


You keep parroting this false statement. At this point I will just leave you to your beliefs. How can the houses be redundant when they are fully occupied? In fact more houses need to be built. There is shortage of housing everywhere in the East and in Nigeria overall.
the fact remains south east region is just a residential zone until there is increase in economic activities in the state. Thank you

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 1:09pm On May 06, 2020
cjrane:
Believe Nigerian statistics at your peril!

I don't understand the younger yoruba generation. Nigeria cannot count even the number of people in Nigeria nor even count the number of votes in a ward election. Yet, you think it's the complex algorithm and calculation of poverty index that they can do?

Keep deluding yourself grin grin grin

Honestly, NBS just showed how far they are willing to go just to prove a point. Nothing in that statistics add up to reality.

The only problem is that when foreign investors are looking at where to invest and get a good return, they will just ignore the south east and go to the west and south south.

I know their game plan.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 1:16pm On May 06, 2020
princdebola201:
the fact remains south east region is just a residential zone until there is increase in economic activities in the state. Thank you

Have you ever wondered how the renters are able to afford their rents if no economic activities gong on?

Do you think people living in these houses are living for free/?

Do you think more houses will be built for residence if there was no profit to be made?

Honestly, you are not making sense.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by superlightning: 1:20pm On May 06, 2020
pazienza:


This one is trying to play cheap divide and conquer tactics.
Soon he will log him with his multiple monikers claiming to represent all SE states and attack each other to create the impression of Igbos from different states fighting each other.

pazienza, pls stop this nonsense and address the issue at hand if you want to. Stop being childish.

I'm surprised you are spewing this nonsense. Are you okay at all?

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by googi: 1:21pm On May 06, 2020
Regardless of the statistics, there is artificially created hunger in the land that are turning young men into begers.

Good arable land are now sold to big business which is not bad really but once sold to foreign business we are in trouble. The original owners are turned to daily laborers and their children leave for big cities.

What do they do with the money? Use it to buy plastics that only last for 3 years and imported food that last for a couple of days. The farmland that sustained families for years and many more years in advance are turned into fine unoccupied buildings that cannot command the same amount of rent as in the cities.

The reason people stay in cities like Lagos is to make money, not to develop. Once they go back home, their source of income dries up. If you do not stay in your villages, who is going to stay there and rent your beautiful buildings?

Farming remains money maker at the villages. Stop fooling yourselves, Nigerians pay little taxes and do not generate enough Internal Generated Revenue.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by princdebola201(m): 1:22pm On May 06, 2020
horsepower102:


Have you ever wondered how the renters are able to afford their rents if no economic activities gong on?

Do you think people living in these houses are living for free/?

Do you think more houses will be built for residence if there was no profit to be made?

Honestly, you are not making sense.






majority of houses re in south east re private apartment
How many residential estates do u have in whole of south east?
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by YorubaNinja: 1:23pm On May 06, 2020
Wey all dem noise-making Okoro savages... grin grin grin

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by YorubaNinja: 1:24pm On May 06, 2020
princdebola201:
the fact remains south east region is just a residential zone until there is increase in economic activities in the state. Thank you

I totally agree! They're also bunch of lunatic savages! angry
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 1:28pm On May 06, 2020
princdebola201:
majority of houses re in south east re private apartment
How many residential estates do u have in whole of south east?

My guy I will give you the same advice that I will give to Yemi the head of NBS, visit the south east. I am done talking about this.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by superlightning: 1:28pm On May 06, 2020
cjrane:


Op, Keep deluding yourself grin grin grin

What is wrong with you people for Christ sake? How am I deluding myself? Was I the one who prepared the survey statistics? Are you okay?
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by princdebola201(m): 1:31pm On May 06, 2020
horsepower102:


My guy I will give you the same advice that I will give to Yemi the head of NBS, visit the south east. I am done talking about this.
grin
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by spyder880(m): 1:36pm On May 06, 2020
horsepower102:


True economic activities are reduced because of the main family's absence but there is enough jobs to go around for technicians servicing families that are there year round. And more and more business men are leaving their families in the East to go other places to do business. Things are changing now.

As a person who has seen the completion of about 8 buildings in the last 1 year in the south east,

An average of N7,000,000.00 was spent on labor and workmanship costs for these buildings. The whole of the money went to poor artisans in a manner of N3000 average daily for about 200 or more workers who work in each of the houses. This is the best poverty alleviation technique in the world. Work and get rich.

There are plazas going up in Onitsha, there are malls and flyover projects in Ebonyi and Abia, there are roads in many states here, men do these jobs, it has a ripple effect on the economy of the region and people are not as poor as they were to be if not for all these ongoing jobs. Shops will sell more, transportation of goods and services has been lubricating the south east economy.

Construction is the biggest factory in the world.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by cjrane: 1:38pm On May 06, 2020
horsepower102:


Honestly, NBS just showed how far they are willing to go just to prove a point. Nothing in that statistics add up to reality.

The only problem is that when foreign investors are looking at where to invest and get a good return, they will just ignore the south east and go to the west and south south.

I know their game plan.

Bros, Forget about meaningful foreign investment coming to Nigeria. Nigeria is going down the drain and foreigners are looking for ways to divest from Nigeria and move to prosperous safe places such as Ghana, Kenya or South Africa.

The only people who have not really caught up with the reality of what is happening in Nigeria are still some recalcitrant Igbo businessmen who are risking their entire wealth and still massively investing in the Southwest or North.

But when alarm finally blows, they will pay for their folly. So, na dem sabi!

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 1:42pm On May 06, 2020
cjrane:


Bros, Forget about meaningful foreign investment coming to Nigeria. Nigeria is going down the drain and foreigners are looking for ways to divest from Nigeria and move to prosperous safe places such as Ghana, Kenya or South Africa.

The only people who have not really caught up with the reality of what is happening in Nigeria are still some recalcitrant Igbo businessmen who are risking their entire wealth and still massively investing in the Southwest or North.

But when alarm finally blows, they will pay for their folly. So, na dem sabi!

But those are the ones that will out of desperation sabotage any movement for freedom. Some of our brothers are very shortsighted.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 1:47pm On May 06, 2020
spyder880:


As a person who has seen the completion of about 8 buildings in the last 1 year in the south east,

An average of N7,000,000.00 was spent on labor and workmanship costs for these buildings. The whole of the money went to poor artisans in a manner of N3000 average daily for about 200 or more workers who work in each of the houses. This is the best poverty alleviation technique in the world. Work and get rich.

There are plazas going up in Onitsha, there are malls and flyover projects in Ebonyi and Abia, there are roads in many states here, men do these jobs, it has a ripple effect on the economy of the region and people are not as poor as they were to be if not for all these ongoing jobs. Shops will sell more, transportation of goods and services has been lubricating the south east economy.

Construction is the biggest factory in the world.

I keep telling them but they refuse to accept. But a part of me knows they they understand.They just dont want to openly admit it.

May God continue to bless you for providing lots of Jobs in real estate sector for the youths and communities.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by farem: 1:49pm On May 06, 2020
spyder880:
A south east where whole streets are built up in a few years. None of these buildings were existing here in the past 5 years, all new developments......


Are you confirming that the SE was a bush until recent past?
I now know why you always call some guys BROWN ROOFS because yours used to be thatched roofs and are now removed

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by spyder880(m): 2:05pm On May 06, 2020
nijabazaar:


The property boom might not reflect the GDP of the residents, I maybe wrong, that sort of scenario happen in Macau, China. In Awka, land x super expensive, structures are rising in leaps but are the owners resident in Anambra. Are they residing and running factories in Lagos?

There's no way a property boom cannot benefit poor people in the cities it is happening.

The people who look for, and connect the property deals as land agents are mostly poor people.

The people who put on the physical labour to construct these houses are poor artisans who take home good pay for doing those manual jobs.

The people who sell the goods they use in building the houses are mostly poor traders selling wood, local sand, local gravel, etc.

The people who drive the trucks, loading and offloading many building materials are poor people who earns their living from those activities.

The shops they sell all these building materials, restaurants and fast food joints to serve hungry workers and drivers are rented from locals.

The lawyers and estate agents who rent all these properties take home some money.

If you say lands in Awka are very expensive, well, if I am the agent that connected the deal, I will be smiling to the bank with my 10% which will be over a million. That's the type of things that happen when theres a property boom.

The whole economy is being lubricated effortlessly and the multiplier effect is what will make for a rapidly increasing middle class.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Maduawuchukwu(m): 2:19pm On May 06, 2020
I have said severely that the NBS stats is fraudulent. How can NBS stats differ so much from that of the World Bank and the UNDP who Dr. Yemi Kale said get their facts from NBS? How can you release stats that are so out of line with every day observation? Enugu has about 60% poverty rate then Kogi that I am quite familiar with is 25%? Lagos is 4%? Nothing we no go see

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by SpaceTour: 2:28pm On May 06, 2020
okeyglm:
What we lack in south east, especially Enugu is industry. The lackadaisical Governors we have in the state lack visions and Willingness to either build or encourage private investors to build. All you see in Enugu is Estate . will the citizens eat estate building. Unfortunately people like spyder is one of their supporter. The only Governor trying in industrial development is Dave umahi.

Good point. Enugu state poverty rating may get to 70% with the way they deceive themselves in that state with propaganda.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by SpaceTour: 2:30pm On May 06, 2020
spyder880:
A south east where whole streets are built up in a few years. None of these buildings were existing here in the past 5 years, all new developments......


See him. He has arrived with his propaganda. This is why Enugu state is about to join Zamfara as the state with the poorest people in Nigeria.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by celeiyke: 2:34pm On May 06, 2020
Cyberterror:
Enugu is a poor state. Their rural areas are poverty-stricken but some mistakenly believe that Enugu city is representative of Enugu state. Economically, Abians are doing much better than Enuguites though it looks like Abia has been cursed with wicked leaders. Ebonyi is a backward state. Their ruthless governor is busy stealing for himself and his family while poverty and disease kills his people. Anambra state is not where it ought to be but that can change if their people can stop investing in Lagos. Imo is the only state with promise as our IGR and job creation is set to take a leap with the coming on stream of Shell gas and Waltersmith refinery which will create economic boom across the state. Owerri is currently the best city in southern Nigeria.

who gave you the phone you are using
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by SpaceTour: 2:37pm On May 06, 2020
OP this advise should go to Abia, Imo, Enugu and Ebonyi states. These are where their people should wake up. God continue to bless Anambra- the light of nation
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Nobody: 2:40pm On May 06, 2020
SpaceTour:
OP this advise should go to Abia, Imo, Enugu and Ebonyi states. These are where their people should wake up. God continue to bless Anambra- the light of nation

I have already told Op to remove anambra from that nonsense analysis.
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Golan007: 3:08pm On May 06, 2020
spyder880:
A south east where whole streets are built up in a few years. None of these buildings were existing here in the past 5 years, all new developments......

And you say Buhari isn't trying?

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by superlightning: 3:12pm On May 06, 2020
SpaceTour:
OP this advise should go to Abia, Imo, Enugu and Ebonyi states. These are where their people should wake up. God continue to bless Anambra- the light of nation

sir, even anambra shouldn't be where she is presently. She can do better by achieving a single digit poverty index. Let's not segregate please.
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by SpaceTour: 3:15pm On May 06, 2020
superlightning:


sir, even anambra shouldn't be where she is presently. She can do better by achieving a single digit poverty index. Let's not segregate please.

That's why you should focus your reprimand more on Imo, Abia, Enugu and Ebonyi. The poverty map is clear on the segregation

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by superlightning: 3:25pm On May 06, 2020
SpaceTour:


That's why you should focus your reprimand more on Imo, Abia, Enugu and Ebonyi. The poverty map is clear on the segregation

My point is clear - NDIGBO, THINK HOME!

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by SIONKPO1(m): 3:29pm On May 06, 2020
Nwanyiogwashi:
So you believe this poverty index done by Yoruba man? angry if you haven't learn something about Nigeria this recent lockdown should have taught you something. This lockdown exposed many things in Nigeria, Enugu and Anambra was on total lockdown like Ogun state and Lagos but who complain of hunger more? The people that has least poverty index was the one complaining of hunger while the so called high poverty index people was not complaining,osun state and IMO state was not on full lockdown but who complain more of hunger between the two states?they say that Igbo's don't love themselves but this lockdown expose the people that doesn't love themselves, during the lockdown is only the west that complain about hunger and even go as far as forming a gang that disturb people sleep at night. If you believe that index then I pity you,I have been with this people from ogwashi ukwu to Asaba and I know their way 100% if I talk more now they will ban me but just know that this lockdown has expose many lies about some people.if you're rich and you can't feed yourself during a difficult time, you are poor.
stop the hate

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by sreamsense: 3:32pm On May 06, 2020
horsepower102:


How can a state that has 59% poverty rate be developing so rapidly. Thank you for your contributions.

Erecting building is not a significant contributing index factor for poverty rating. There is no village or region in Nigeria today that is not erecting building or other structure. It is only noticeable in the east because of tiny land mass.

People prefer to build storey buildings in the east because of scarcity or cost of land. Land is expensive because of scarcity and small land mass. Imagine total land mass of entire 5-states in the south east is just slightly above Oyo state. How won't you notice development in such tiny land?

Please, stop chest beating, accept reality, you will never see elders and wise people in biafra land arguing this out. When you over rate yourself and reality later hit on you in term of statistics from NBS, world bank and Oxford University, you begin to shout "afonja" up and down.

Humble yourself, accept realities on ground and you will be good for it. Is only God that lifts up and cast down. Humility is important, we will not all be cast down!

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