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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by manuelreports: 8:30pm On May 06, 2020
Inteltower:


hello your words are encouraging to us Igbo youths that also want the best for our region.
we have an assembled group that's all about supporting startups; we are creating a platform where innovators & entrepreneurs meet and both satisfying each others interest. and on the process of registering ourselves as a cooperative. but we need financial aid o run the cost of our platform and to help encourage startups (especially in the south east) so am soliciting for your support and you can invest in our enterprise.
thanks for your consideration
Ok Will contact you in due course
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Osaze007: 8:32pm On May 06, 2020
HornyTave:


Your comment shows you've not left SW.

I'm from Edo and I've lived in Edo, Delta, Ekiti, Ondo and Lagos.

Igbos have big business in Lagos, Igbos own most lands in Ado ekiti commercial areas ( bank road) and igbos are noy begging in Ondo, they have successful business.


Igbos own most land in Lagos and now Ekiti looooooooooooooool

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Nobody: 8:32pm On May 06, 2020
Golan007:


I mean the houses were built in the last six years implies he boosted their economy.

You can't win that argument.

Either he did badly such that no development came to the east or he did so well that easterners are building houses in such numbers as never witnessed before since 2015.
Oga keep mute, u have nothing to argue. IGBOS have been building those houses before 2015 so no even go there. Easterners have never depended on FG to survive, learn this today. Very many or even most real estate investments in the SE is powered by Monies sent home by millions of igbo men n women working hard abroad..

Buhari has failed Nigeria, even his hardcore northern supporters from professors to politicians have confirmed this...dont argue it, the result speaks for itself, buhari has failed badly

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Osaze007: 8:32pm On May 06, 2020
Genoa:


Igbos owns all the land in Ado Ekiti.

Loooooool they are comedians who believe their own jokes iPob

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by anungangampu: 8:34pm On May 06, 2020
Not inconsequential..
Our boys are lavishing away.


One cause is Demonizing boyi boyi.


A system that saved us for long 40yrs is being neglected..
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by YungMillionaire: 8:34pm On May 06, 2020
cool cool cool cool
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Nobody: 8:35pm On May 06, 2020
lx3as:


Thank God I have stayed in all the states of the SE and SW, the people's mindsets are different. While the SE appreciates capitalism, the SW loves socialism. While there are lots of very rich people of eastern origin due to trading, there are also many many more poor people, the SW boasts of lots and lots of middle class people. There are differences between, for instance, teachers or okada man in SE and those in SW. all of them can afford food and other stuff but those from the SW can easily build houses and live modestly in their 3/4 bedroom bungalows, it's difficult for those in the SE to do; to even get land in reasonable towns, one needs millions not to talk of buildings.

The governments in the SW are always learning towards socialism. they tend to provide good roads to link various towns. In Osun or Ekiti, virtually all communities have tap water and reservoirs by the government. you also find banks in most of the towns. Each family also has large land and cash crops, it's difficult for anyone not to get at least food, except if he is a stranger. These people may not be rich but they majority are comfortable. The people leaves so much to the government, which is not good enough...

The governments in the SE tend to favour the rich and capitalism. Just look at Owerri and Enugu; in Enugu, there is no provisions for middle class estates and supports, people are being pushed to crowd suburbs like abakpa, obiagu, Garki, etc even schools' lands in new layout and other places are being allocated to the rich and you find people, staying so far away in Awgu, Ezeagu, 9th mile, etc to come to the metropolitan. After Enugu, Agbani and Nsukka, you hardly find banks. a lot of people are actually struggling just like other places in Nigeria. The super rich of everyone' status some of you are sharing is not just real... The government leaves so much to the people without wanting to take responsibility for the poor.

The middle class is growing in the SW while is either you are rich or poor in the SE, the Middle class is shrinking. In all, the states' in both regions should be held responsible.
whoa � so the thousands of shoe makers and tailors in ariaria are not middle class? I also guess the 4/5 story block of flats major cities in the east is known for are for poor dudes?
please keep to what you know

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Golan007: 8:39pm On May 06, 2020
PrecisionFx:

Oga keep mute, u have nothing to argue. IGBOS have been building those houses before 2015 so no even go there. Easterners have never depended on FG to survive, learn this today. Very many or even most real estate investments in the SE is powered by Monies sent home by millions of igbo men n women working hard abroad..

Buhari has failed Nigeria, even his hardcore northern supporters from professors to politicians have confirmed this...dont argue it, the result speaks for itself, buhari has failed badly

Shut up.

Either you call your compatriot to order or Buhari's policy is hitting home.

I have seen another thread in which your kinsmen are boasting about the number of rice mills in SE.

Is that not another testament to Buhari's policies?

It is your likes that you can fool.

I deal with facts and even your very own testimony.

Move along.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by horsepower102: 8:39pm On May 06, 2020
Inteltower:


ok Sir. I understand. but can I have your contact. to inform you when we get things going ?

Horseprogressives@gmail.com

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by sage(m): 8:53pm On May 06, 2020
Igbo people need to realize that until Aba's plight changes and power is removed from the hands of the Orji clan and their stooges (like Ikpeazu), the southeast WILL keep falling behind. The place that powered manufacturing and industry along with commerce in Nigeria has been turned into a complete wasteland. A city with amazing promise and ability to be a leading city in Nigeria turned into a trash dump.

Forget about Hausa/Fulani and Yoruba's and turn all the fire power to changing Aba. The whole Southeast and surrounding areas like PH and Uyo would benefit massively from it.

Igbo's primary battle before Igbo presidency, who built Lagos, Yorubas and Hausa/Fulani etc is to get their premier city functioning again. It should be to change the horror that is Aba

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by lx3as(m): 8:57pm On May 06, 2020
eduj:

whoa � so the thousands of shoe makers and tailors in ariaria are not middle class? I also guess the 4/5 story block of flats major cities in the east is known for are for poor dudes?
please keep to what you know

What's the population of Igbos, the number of buildings to the people?

What's the population of shops in each market and owners to the population of market boys/girls/middlemen to the entire population of Igbos?
I've said what you want to hear, every Igbo man is rich!

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by SpecialAdviser(m): 9:13pm On May 06, 2020
Okoroawusa:


Ndewo nnam. Okwu gi kwu oto ka amu nwoke.

Biko kedu afa otutu gi ka m tue gi ya?

Inwe Ike ikpo m akuruo ulo. Nihi na anam eme invest na be anyi.

Dalu so.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Abagworo(m): 9:22pm On May 06, 2020
horsepower102:
If this poverty index is finally verified by the experiences of those on the ground, it will be the biggest wake up call for Igbos.


But I am highly suspicious of the numbers...

It's very real. The mansions scattered across the villages belong to Igbos outside Southeast.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Abagworo(m): 9:29pm On May 06, 2020
eduj:

whoa � so the thousands of shoe makers and tailors in ariaria are not middle class? I also guess the 4/5 story block of flats major cities in the east is known for are for poor dudes?
please keep to what you know

Sometimes you hsve to chill and understand the message. He's partly right about Southeast and Southwest because our people are capitalist

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Maduawuchukwu(m): 9:39pm On May 06, 2020
Juliusmalema:



Stop opening stupid threads.

Na me open this thread? I have told you, stop behaving like a Bull in a China shop. Think before you act.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Maduawuchukwu(m): 9:45pm On May 06, 2020
Abagworo:


It's very real. The mansions scattered across the villages belong to Igbos outside Southeast.

When we talk about the well being of the Igbo people in the rural areas we are not talking about the mansions. We are talking about the life of the ordinary Igbo villager. How can you say that the Rural people of Enugu live worse than their rural counterparts in Kogi state? Have you been to these two states before?
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by HornyTave: 9:56pm On May 06, 2020
Osaze007:


Igbos own most land in Lagos and now Ekiti looooooooooooooool

If you've been to Ado Ekiti you'll know, Ojoba area has 1 bank and some other banks in bank road. in fact bank Road is the commerce area in Ado ekiti (which is very under developed - ado ekiti is like Uromi in Edo state) and its not news more than 50% of land in Bank road are owned by ibos.

before you argue I've lived in Ado ekiti

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by HornyTave: 9:57pm On May 06, 2020
Genoa:

Igbos owns all the land in Ado Ekiti.
Where are you From? We Might use your state as case study.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Osaze007: 10:14pm On May 06, 2020
HornyTave:


If you've been to Ado Ekiti you'll know, Ojoba area has 1 bank and some other banks in bank road. in fact bank Road is the commerce area in Ado ekiti (which is very under developed - ado ekiti is like Uromi in Edo state) and its not news more than 50% of land in Bank road are owned by ibos.

before you argue I've lived in Ado ekiti


Yes in addition to 99% of the land you own in Lagos and abuja and the 44trn you own in Northern Nigeria

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Luckymama: 10:31pm On May 06, 2020
Inteltower:



so in this covid pandemic.. who were those in need of palliatives the most ?
Personal experience. In my husbands village somewhere in Owerri, there were so many individuals who sent money home from all over the place to assist their brothers who were based at home. My husband’s extended family alone contributed over a million Naira. Foodstuffs were bought and shared to the young men and family based in the East. That’s a spirit that’s totally lacking in the South West.

What I am trying to say is that hunger was biting everyone everywhere. But while those in the East have developed a communal spirit, the west are looking up to Govt. At the same time it is important to remember that all of this money I am talking about came from people who do not live in the East, so they do not contribute to the economy. These people pay taxes where they live. They employ Labour and pay rent, pay for services etc. So while their brothers may not necessarily starve because they regularly send money home, it’s not really helping the economy.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Ezewuzie01: 10:46pm On May 06, 2020
Eastern governors must start thinking of property taxes. That is a very viable source of IGR that can even solely fund our bugets. Anambra government will make a killing with the tax. Take for example, each multistorey residential building in Awka pay 30000 per annum while bungalows pay 10000 per annum. Multistorey commercial buildings pay 15000 per annum and bungalows pay 10000 per annum. Imagine the billions it will generate. And that is just Awka alone! Our governors in south east must start taking tax collection serious. Create new and innovate ways to collect tax.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by awakeuche(m): 11:54pm On May 06, 2020
As a full Igbo man who travels the North, south west and eastern part of Nigeria I will say the NBA statistics is very deceiving but not totally false.
1. Yes alot of rural areas in the east are developed with modern buildings, but there are no commercial areas like you'd find in Lagos.
2. The Igbos need to use this statistics as a motivator to developing more commercial areas and industrial zone like is available in the south west.
3. The south western parts of Nigeria, states like osun, ondo and ekiti have one thing going for them, they all have industrial zones that bring in big businesses.
4. Poor infrastructure, little or inconsequential trade, but strong commerce compared to the east.
5. Development of the south west is rapid because all tribes contribute though this is mostly just Lagos and Ogun state.
6. Again the data used by the NBS is questionable and doesn't show the reality on ground.
7. If we as Igbos must develop commercially, we need to bring more businesses home, not only to our states but to the south south too, as development with these states must go hand in hand.
Let those who want to gloat over paper, laugh their hearts out.
A united Nigeria would make sense, but from the comments it's clear most of you are too far gone.
There is still hope for us all pathetic Nigerians.
And I predict we will have a better country with more tribal tolerance if we survive Covid 19.
Tribal bastards.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Okoroawusa: 11:59pm On May 06, 2020
SpecialAdviser:


Inwe Ike ikpo m akuruo ulo. Nihi na anam eme invest na be anyi.

Dalu so.
Ichie Akuruo ulo!!!

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Osaze007: 12:12am On May 07, 2020
awakeuche:
As a full Igbo man who travels the North, south west and eastern part of Nigeria I will say the NBA statistics is very deceiving but not totally false.
1. Yes alot of rural areas in the east are developed with modern buildings, but there are no commercial areas like you'd find in Lagos.
2. The Igbos need to use this statistics as a motivator to developing more commercial areas and industrial zone like is available in the south west.
3. The south western parts of Nigeria, states like osun, ondo and ekiti have one thing going for them, they all have industrial zones that bring in big businesses.
4. Poor infrastructure, little or inconsequential trade, but strong commerce compared to the east.
5. Development of the south west is rapid because all tribes contribute though this is mostly just Lagos and Ogun state.
6. Again the data used by the NBS is questionable and doesn't show the reality on ground.
7. If we as Igbos must develop commercially, we need to bring more businesses home, not only to our states but to the south south too, as development with these states must go hand in hand.
Let those who want to gloat over paper, laugh their hearts out.
A united Nigeria would make sense, but from the comments it's clear most of you are too far gone.
There is still hope for us all pathetic Nigerians.
And I predict we will have a better country with more tribal tolerance if we survive Covid 19.
Tribal bastards.

Ogun was now developed by everyone too looool
It’s not only Lagos ?
Loooooool when will you accept fate Yorubas are better at developing themselves than you

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Nobody: 5:40am On May 07, 2020
Golan007:


Shut up.

Either you call your compatriot to order or Buhari's policy is hitting home.

I have seen another thread in which your kinsmen are boasting about the number of rice mills in SE.

Is that not another testament to Buhari's policies?

It is your likes that you can fool.

I deal with facts and even your very own testimony.

Move along.

Tell that ur kinsman that he's a bloody rice pyramid liar grin grin.

Buhari has failed Nigeria, more than 6 million nigerians have lost their jobs according to our own national bureau of statistics.

Oga be guided n stop defending failure...dont be unfortunate pls.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by olalat(m): 5:47am On May 07, 2020
Osaze007:


Thought it was 70%
Lolz
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Amumaigwe: 6:36am On May 07, 2020
Golan007:


Shut up.

Either you call your compatriot to order or Buhari's policy is hitting home.

I have seen another thread in which your kinsmen are boasting about the number of rice mills in SE.

Is that not another testament to Buhari's policies?

It is your likes that you can fool.

I deal with facts and even your very own testimony.

Move along.

Advancing thia argument even in the face of the terrible performance of this government means that you either are mischievous or brain dead.
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by HornyTave: 7:12am On May 07, 2020
Osaze007:



Yes in addition to 99% of the land you own in Lagos and abuja and the 44trn you own in Northern Nigeria

For your Information I'm Ishan from Urom in Edo state and 'Osaze' is benin name, should I tell you where Ibos have large land ownership in Benin?
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by awakeuche(m): 7:53am On May 07, 2020
Osaze007:


Ogun was now developed by everyone too looool
It’s not only Lagos ?
Loooooool when will you accept fate Yorubas are better at developing themselves than you
you know better, and I never fall down to the level of tribalist, what have you gained since you became one. It certainly didn't make you rich Yoruba man.

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Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Golan007: 8:28am On May 07, 2020
Amumaigwe:


Advancing thia argument even in the face of the terrible performance of this government means that you either are mischievous or brain dead.

Shut up.

It is either Igbos are lying and I won't put it past them, or Buhari's government as actually provided the environment for their businesses to grow.

One minute they claim he has killed their businesses but the same minute they are boasting about newly established rice mills and newly built houses.

Hypocrites.
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by caleboxylic: 9:10am On May 07, 2020
anungangampu:
Not inconsequential..
Our boys are lavishing away.


One cause is Demonizing boyi boyi.


A system that saved us for long 40yrs is being neglected..

We have to revisit this.
Re: Igbos Outside Southeast, Our Region's Poverty Index Is Rising! by Nobody: 9:19am On May 07, 2020
lx3as:


What's the population of Igbos, the number of buildings to the people?

What's the population of shops in each market and owners to the population of market boys/girls/middlemen to the entire population of Igbos?
I've said what you want to hear, every Igbo man is rich!
nope every igbo man isn't rich!! but saying that their is little /a shrinking middle class in the SE is a fallacy!! Ariaria alone had over 5,000 shops at take up, recent developments like the ekumi Plaza can easily double that(new market aba is also among Nigeria's biggest) . a shop at ariaria can costs a million per year, a space to drop your table can cost 800,000 per year at aba shopping center. I haven't even highlighted other economic indices oh.
your views can be forgiven if you haven't ever gone into business on your own but please stick to what you know

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