ecolime:

Let me be mute because I am pro-nuclear family and would definitely be biased in my advise.

Lalasticlala help push this to frontpage to get broader views on this.

....I will still like to hear from you or should I send you a pm?

lopjohnny:
Were you told any negative implications that might befall you if at all you refuse the kingship?

It is better to maintain your current status than to ruin and destroy your family you've been building hitherto. One thing is, even if you are happy with the whole thing, your wife will NEVER be happy with it.

You've got no excuse to embrace polygamy.

By the way, I just hope you are aware of what kingship entails.. are you aware of the spiritual implications that go hand in hand with it?

....I haven't even thought towards this direction of yours which is also very important because of my confused state. Thanks for bringing it to my notice.

Macphenson:
Honestly speaking, in as much as enlightened, educated and exposed we are, we still have our traditions as Africans.

It is indeed a difficult situation you find yourself , and a tough decision to make.

But the truth is you have to face reality.
In such a situation where it is you and the community, I will advise you take the kingship, it is an honour for you to be chosen,and trust me your generations yet unborn will be proud of you.

It.is also a rare and great priviledge for you to render service to your people , and for you to also write your name in gold.

As for your wife, this is where you have a challenge. No woman wants to share her man.
Please appeal to her that ordinarily you want to be with only her, but circumstances have changed everything, also reach out to her family first, and present your case to them. That's a sign of respect and regards for them. As long as it is the dictates of the tradition, overtime they will understand but not without certain reservations and concerns.

Let them.understand that your taking another wife is absolutely circumstancial and not intentional.

Please take up this rare priviledge of serving you people.

My own personal request is this

Please place the interest of your subjects at heart while on the throne. Be a father to them. Don't be like our present day political "Ezes".

Sadly, the place (Igbo land) which he comes from has nothing to do with kingship --:organically speaking. Most people don't know that these rascals that parade themselves as kings in the Southeast and some part of the so-called South-south, only began to have constitutional backing with the Richardson constitution of 1946 that regionalised, by creating what is called House of Chiefs or "Thieves."

A look at the crises induced by selection of a king will tell you it is not part of our culture: it is something that diminishes us as a people. Let kingship die in Igbo land, we are innate REPUBLICANS.

JONNYSPUTE:
....Good morning folks. Sure we are all good and managing the effects of pandemic well?. To God be the glory.

This is going to be long because I will want us to read and understand it very well before commenting. Reason is because any decision taken is going to affect both myself,my immediate family members,extended and the entire community.

I have been thinking about the way forward since December last year.

It happened that we lost our king(Eze) 5years ago and the community has been in turmoil due to the inability of the elders to select a new king.

Reason is that it is rotational between my village and the other village.

My village is now supposed to bring out the next king and my compound has been told to bring out somebody to be crowned as a king.

I never envisaged or dreamt of becoming a king in my life because.
(1) My father is still alive.
(2)I'm not the most senior in the entire family.

But then,the elders met me last December and told me that the diety in the community has selected me to become the next king and that I have to pick another wife from the community before I will be crowned.

I told them point and blank that the oracle is mistaken due to the reasons I mentioned above but they are not taking it.

Now everyone in my village is against me for refusing the offer and saying I'm doing it be cause I don't want to hurt my wife which is true.

Now my question is,What do I do?
Should I damn the consequence and pick another wife and be crowned a king in other to make my community happy or should I forget about the whole idea entirely and allow the community sort themselves out?

I'm confused here. N B. My wife is aware of all this.

Thanks.

Lalasticlala,please bring this to front page cause I'm no longer myself. So many sleepless nights and selfish advices from the elders in my community.I really need to hear the truth from people I don't know.

Eze for this 21st century?

JONNYSPUTE:
....Good morning folks. Sure we are all good and managing the effects of pandemic well?. To God be the glory.

This is going to be long because I will want us to read and understand it very well before commenting. Reason is because any decision taken is going to affect both myself,my immediate family members,extended and the entire community.

I have been thinking about the way forward since December last year.

It happened that we lost our king(Eze) 5years ago and the community has been in turmoil due to the inability of the elders to select a new king.

Reason is that it is rotational between my village and the other village.

My village is now supposed to bring out the next king and my compound has been told to bring out somebody to be crowned as a king.

I never envisaged or dreamt of becoming a king in my life because.
(1) My father is still alive.
(2)I'm not the most senior in the entire family.

But then,the elders met me last December and told me that the diety in the community has selected me to become the next king and that I have to pick another wife from the community before I will be crowned.

I told them point and blank that the oracle is mistaken due to the reasons I mentioned above but they are not taking it.

Now everyone in my village is against me for refusing the offer and saying I'm doing it be cause I don't want to hurt my wife which is true.

Now my question is,What do I do?
Should I damn the consequence and pick another wife and be crowned a king in other to make my community happy or should I forget about the whole idea entirely and allow the community sort themselves out?

I'm confused here. N B. My wife is aware of all this.

Thanks.

Lalasticlala,please bring this to front page cause I'm no longer myself. So many sleepless nights and selfish advices from the elders in my community.I really need to hear the truth from people I don't know.

This is a very sensitive issue and needs wisdom to tackle it

In the history of your family or community, the previous Kings who are late now, do they all married from your village or they married else where

Because I don't see the coronation between marrying from your community and marrying outside your community

Unless it's a decoy to make you drop your wife, if ever their was a time they didn't want you guys to marry

Yes the deity can pick any body it wishes

So let them give you a written history of the past Kings and their wives family

Then you will now take it upon yourself to do your secret investigation

Don't be scared or moved, you didn't go to school for nothing

Then the only person that will be truthful to you is your dad if he is going to be transparent to you

Lastly, are you going to get settled in the village where your stool is or you will keep being on the express road through and flow

If you will be settling down in the village, how do you fend for your family as you must be relocated from your work place

frozen70:


This is a very sensitive issue and needs wisdom to tackle it

In the history of your family or community, the previous Kings who are late now, do they all married from your village or they married else where

Because I don't see the coronation between marrying from your community and marrying outside your community

Unless it's a decoy to make you drop your wife, if ever their was a time they didn't want you guys to marry

Yes the deity can pick any body it wishes

So let them give you a written history of the past Kings and their wives family

Then you will now take it upon yourself to do your secret investigation

Don't be scared or moved, you didn't go to school for nothing

Then the only person that will be truthful to you is your dad if he is going to be transparent to you

Lastly, are you going to get settled in the village where your stool is or you will keep being on the express road through and flow

If you will be settling down in the village, how do you fend for your family as you must be relocated from your work place

....Yea,from history,they all married from our community.

JONNYSPUTE:
....Yea,from history,they all married from our community.

Waooo

Well its going to be very hurtful to your wife, God will give you wisdom that you need to handle it

frozen70:


Waooo

Well its going to be very hurtful to your wife, God will give you wisdom that you need to handle it

.....Plenty wisdom is needed Walahi

If you are a Christian, then Satan is tempting you. You mentioned the Oracle chooosed you, so bowing/responding to what that Oracle says, simply means you have bowed to another god. It is totally wrong to leave monogamy and practice polygamy because of tradition, polygamy is sin.

correctyourself:
Seriously, first of all just as you explained here discuss it with your wife and her acceptance will go along way to help you make decision.

This issue sounds complicated again as an issue that generated alot of controversy as it bothered on tradition and also involving a female at the center of the controversy.If your wife is from the same village as you are ,she just has to accept the inevitable.Like i earlier stressed this is why parents insist that their wards marry from same area.As some complications might arise which tradition would hold sway.I would not go further as there would be some funny religious sentiments that my crop up.As happened when i contributed on an issue involving a mans late uncles wifes demanding he copulate with her for the purpose of begeting children due to some reasos.

nothing will happen.

JONNYSPUTE:
....Been doing this all this while and because of this,I ve not been to the village since December to see my parents. They all come over to my base now to see me.My wife has not said anything about it since and I can understand her.Even my Dad is confused cause such has never happened.

You can't crown me a king while my father is alive..My father and I feels there's a conspiracy against us.

1 their is not a conspiracy btw you and your father,he is old you are young
2 they want the kingship to last long in your community
3 try to talk to them concerns second wife but as tradition king married more wives even in Asia
4 if you cook for the village people they will finishes it but if village people cook for you, you can't finish it

hakeemhakeem:


1 their is not a conspiracy btw you and your father,he is old you are young
2 they want the kingship to last long in your community
3 try to talk to them concerns second wife but as tradition king married more wives even in Asia
4 if you cook for the village people they will finishes it but if village people cook for you, you can't finish it

...I do understand perfectly. Thanks

Op go to your kinsmen, find out if there are any consequences attached to declining their offer. If there's none or its not serious kindly reject since you're not comfortable with their requirements.

They should look for someone else who will gladly accept.

Palema007:
You can't be crowned until your dad is dead, you don't want a polygamus home. Why worry yourself? Sir, live in peace and let them not cause a problem in your family. When the time comes, I wouldn't be surprised if their Oracle chooses another on the accusations you killed your father to become King. I believe this is a conspiracy against your dad, be wise and stay out of it. This is what I would do if I'm in your shoes.

First you become king or not it doesnt bother me its ur calling not mine. how i want to set the record straight the gods are not mocked. just as God is not mocked,so the gods also. pls stop insulting the traditional institution of ur community that has been preset even before the coming of the europeans. are now claiming the community hatched a conspiracy your dad inparticularis,by whinning the oracle.in said institutions were kingship is not defined unlike in my edo culture were the first son authomatically becomes the next king, it is the oracle that holds sway. and it can point at any bodyeven if the persons father is alive.Did Jacob not bow before his son Joseph not to talk of his snr brothers.as long as you are a indigen of that community the oracle ca pick you. stop having a illusion that it is a set up. negociate peacefullywith your community people if you dont watt to take the offer SIMPLE .

Ohizman73:
First you become king or not it doesnt bother me its ur calling not mine. how i want to set the record straight the gods are not mocked. just as God is not mocked,so the gods also. pls stop insulting the traditional institution of ur community that has been preset even before the coming of the europeans. are now claiming the community hatched a conspiracy your dad inparticularis,by whinning the oracle.in said institutions were kingship is not defined unlike in my edo culture were the first son authomatically becomes the next king, it is the oracle that holds sway. and it can point at any bodyeven if the persons father is alive.Did Jacob not bow before his son Joseph not to talk of his snr brothers.as long as you are a indigen of that community the oracle ca pick you. stop having a illusion that it is a set up. negociate peacefullywith your community people if you dont watt to take the offer SIMPLE .

Wrong person Bros, wrong person.

JONNYSPUTE:
.
I have been thinking about the way forward since December last year.

It happened that we lost our king(Eze) 5years ago and the community has been in turmoil due to the inability of the elders to select a new king.

Reason is that it is rotational between my village and the other village.

My village is now supposed to bring out the next king and my compound has been told to bring out somebody to be crowned as a king.

I never envisaged or dreamt of becoming a king in my life because.
(1) My father is still alive.
(2)I'm not the most senior in the entire family.

But then,the elders met me last December and told me that the diety in the community has selected me to become the next king and that I have to pick another wife from the community before I will be crowned.

I told them point and blank that the oracle is mistaken due to the reasons I mentioned above but they are not taking it.

Now everyone in my village is against me for refusing the offer and saying I'm doing it be cause I don't want to hurt my wife which is true.

Now my question is,What do I do?
Should I damn the consequence and pick another wife and be crowned a king in other to make my community happy or should I forget about the whole idea entirely and allow the community sort themselves out?

This caught my attention. Herein lies the root of your confusion. You want this kingship thing, but you do not want your wife to be hurt by the cultural requirements that will entail sharing you with another woman.

Mr Johnnyspute, be very honest with yourself. Your ego is being massaged here by the prospect of royalty. Which comes first, your ego/the stool, or your family? When the drama begins will the village people who are complaining about your refusal be there to solve your family issues?

I am also still wondering why the so-called deity chose you over others in your family. These deities are agents of confusion just like their master the devil. They are one-armed bandits that take and take, and whatever they give you is marked with sorrow in the long term. It is not as if you will be a first class king sef. You will be the Igbo version of a Yoruba Baale, am I correct?

The Baale of my community here in Lagos is a rascal so I'm kinda sceptical about these people, sorry.

Please, it is not worth it. Since there is no negative repercussions for refusal let the deity consult his crystal ball and look for another candidate since the one he chose is not willing.

Also commit this to God's hand and ask him to cause confusion in their midst.

Ishilove:

This caught my attention. Herein lies the root of your confusion. You want this kingship thing, but you do not want your wife to be hurt by the cultural requirements that will entail sharing you with another man.

Mr Johnnyspute, be very honest with yourself. Your ego is being massaged here by the prospect of royalty. Which comes first, your ego/the stool, or your family? When the drama begins will the village people who are complaining about your refusal be there to solve your family issues?

I am also still wondering why the so-called deity chose you over others in your family. These deities are agents of confusion just like their master the devil. They are one-armed bandits that take and take, and whatever they give you is marked with sorrow in the long term. It is not as if you will be a first class king sef. You will be the Igbo version of a Yoruba Baale, am I correct?

The Baale of my community here in Lagos is a rascal so I'm kinda sceptical about these people, sorry.

Please, it is not worth it. Since there is no negative repercussions for refusal let the deity consult his crystal ball and look for another candidate since the one he chose is not willing.

Also commit this to God's hand and ask him to cause confusion in their midst.

....Thanks alot Ishi.Once the lockdown ends,I will travel down to the village and sort things out with them

I will update you all with the outcome.

Remain blessed.

Does anyone actually believe any oracle told anyone of those king makers anything?

I have a bridge to sell to anyone who believes that.
Please don’t allow anyone manipulate you into ruining your home by yourself.

New wife indeed.

Seek the face of God for your decision making

jus lyk naija films

It shall be well with all of you reading this,

from today you all shall be blessed without measures!

Your cups shall flow unimaniginably well!

Op you shall live a ripe fruitfull old age,
your life is blessed

peace!

JONNYSPUTE:
....Good morning folks. Sure we are all good and managing the effects of pandemic well?. To God be the glory.

This is going to be long because I will want us to read and understand it very well before commenting. Reason is because any decision taken is going to affect both myself,my immediate family members, extended and the entire community.

I have been thinking about the way forward since December last year.

It happened that we lost our king (Eze) 5years ago and the community has been in turmoil due to the inability of the elders to select a new king.

Reason is that it is rotational between my village and the other village.

My village is now supposed to bring out the next king and my compound has been told to bring out somebody to be crowned as a king.

I never envisaged or dreamt of becoming a king in my life because.
(1) My father is still alive.
(2)I'm not the most senior in the entire family.

But then,the elders met me last December and told me that the diety in the community has selected me to become the next king and that I have to pick another wife from the community before I will be crowned.

I told them point and blank that the oracle is mistaken due to the reasons I mentioned above but they are not taking it.

Now everyone in my village is against me for refusing the offer and saying I'm doing it be cause I don't want to hurt my wife which is true.

Now my question is,What do I do?
Should I damn the consequence and pick another wife and be crowned a king in other to make my community happy or should I forget about the whole idea entirely and allow the community sort themselves out?

I'm confused here. N B. My wife is aware of all this.

Thanks.

Please bring this to front page cause I'm no longer myself. So many sleepless nights and selfish advices from the elders in my community. I really need to hear the truth from people I don't know.

Run!!!!!!!

I don't think there should be any confusion, those demons are looking for a candidate to devour and they have seen a great person like you. For u to be confused shows God is talking to you.

Na bye bye to poverty bro...think outside the box guy

Righteousness89:
My Brother!
If you will take up the Post, your Faith should be a Paramount Factor.

Don't allow any other form of god or diety to make u do what you should not!

Respectfully Tell your people that you will Accept the throne but that things will be done in a Christian way. You Respectfully tell them what your faith stands for.

If they Accept, Good! If they do not, then Respectfully decline them

Position is not a Qualification for Eternal Life..

No be only Christian way......

You see how you level our culture.....

pls what's the title of this movie?? I'm interested

Congrats!

JONNYSPUTE:
....Good morning folks. Sure we are all good and managing the effects of pandemic well?. To God be the glory.

This is going to be long because I will want us to read and understand it very well before commenting. Reason is because any decision taken is going to affect both myself,my immediate family members, extended and the entire community.

I have been thinking about the way forward since December last year.

It happened that we lost our king (Eze) 5years ago and the community has been in turmoil due to the inability of the elders to select a new king.

Reason is that it is rotational between my village and the other village.

My village is now supposed to bring out the next king and my compound has been told to bring out somebody to be crowned as a king.

I never envisaged or dreamt of becoming a king in my life because.
(1) My father is still alive.
(2)I'm not the most senior in the entire family.

But then,the elders met me last December and told me that the diety in the community has selected me to become the next king and that I have to pick another wife from the community before I will be crowned.

I told them point and blank that the oracle is mistaken due to the reasons I mentioned above but they are not taking it.

Now everyone in my village is against me for refusing the offer and saying I'm doing it be cause I don't want to hurt my wife which is true.

Now my question is,What do I do?
Should I damn the consequence and pick another wife and be crowned a king in other to make my community happy or should I forget about the whole idea entirely and allow the community sort themselves out?

I'm confused here. N B. My wife is aware of all this.

Thanks.

Please bring this to front page cause I'm no longer myself. So many sleepless nights and selfish advices from the elders in my community. I really need to hear the truth from people I don't know.

Eze! May you live forever!

If this story is true and not another tales by the moonlight, what does your wife think of all this? does she want you to please the community even if she will be hurt? or does she not even agree with you?


what ever decision you make will affect everyone in part to this, even eventually you marry a new wife she will also be affected cause she might not feel loved.


But you know what pleases you the most, so do it.

The next Abukun will soon be on the run