LadyExcellency:

Moses is not anointed prophet and doing any related service doesn't make it so. Moses had a higher office than that of a prophet.

Others in your list never mediated between God and Man.

Moses is not an anointed prophet? God Himself chose Moses, how much more anointed could that not be? Moses had a higher office?

What do you mean by anointed?
What do you mean by mediation?
Now I confused!

Kobojunkie:
Where did you get your information that balaam was a true renowned Prophet of God?

Prophet's mediating between God and His people... Moses, Jeremiah... Samuel..Ezekiel...etc

Intercession? Not necessarily! Mediation, yes

And God came unto Balaam, and said, What men are these with thee? And Balaam said unto God, Balak the son of Zippor, king of Moab, hath sent unto me, saying,
Numbers 22:9‭-‬10 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/num.22.9-10.KJV

Kobojunkie:
Moses is not an anointed prophet? God Himself chose Moses, how much more anointed could that not be? Moses had a higher office?

What do you mean by anointed?
What do you mean by mediation?
Now I confused!

Paul is an Apostle but can still do some of the services of the prophets but his designation is not a Prophet and so is Moses.

And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
1 Corinthians 12:28 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/1co.12.28.KJV

LadyExcellency:

Paul is an Apostle but can still do some of the services of the prophets but his designation is not a Prophet and so is Moses.

And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
1 Corinthians 12:28 KJV
https://bible.com/bible/1/1co.12.28.KJV

Again, Paul is not an apostle under the Old covenant agreement so he is not a prophet of Old like Moses and the others.

I still need to understand what you mean when you say Moses was not anointed and when you suggest that prophets were not mediators under the old agreement.

Read Deuteronomy 18 to understand what God said of His prophets.

Kobojunkie:

What do you mean by anointed?
What do you mean by mediation?
Now I confused!

Mediation is an act of reconciling men to God. Making peace between God and Men is mediation

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You typed like a writer; you were not mindful of your diction, though. Inspiring story! I only pity the atheists.

LadyExcellency:

Mediation is an act of reconciling men to God. Making peace between God and Men is mediation

So since the prophets were the go between between God and the people, would you then say that Prophets did not serve the role of reconciling the people to God?

I mean that is what the people asked God for.

Beosten:



You typed like a writer; you were not mindful of your diction, though. Inspiring story! I only pity the atheists.

Oh OK.

I was typing fast that's why.

Trust me I pity atheists too.

I thank God , I'm liberal and sought for spiritual advice immediately. I can't go all out without advice from people who can see beyond .

Its very risky depending on the mind and physical statistics .

very risky .

Kobojunkie:
So since the prophets were the go between between God and the people, would you then say that Prophets did not serve the role of reconciling the people to God?

I mean that is what the people asked God for.

The Prophets are just like messengers in today's palace. A prophet can beg God (intercession) to set aside punishment already pronounced and not to ask God to have relationship with the person.

Someone is seeking attention here. Sadly, the gullible people would fall for it. Why can’t the OP ask God who reveals things to him? Do you really to ask others? Who better to ask than God himself. I’m smelling a dead rat here. Buyers beware; caveat emptor.

LadyExcellency:

The Prophets are just like messengers in today's palace. A prophet can beg God (intercession) to set aside punishment already pronounced and not to ask God to have relationship with the person.

Let's just stick to the dictionary meaning of the word, shall we?

me·di·a·tor
/ˈmēdēˌādər/

a person who attempts to make people involved in a conflict come to an agreement; a go-between.

The Prophets of Old served as go-betweens between God and the people of Israel. That was what the people asked for and that is what God gave them in Deuteronomy 18.

When God gives you a word concerning somebody please deliver it to that person that's why God revealed it to you in the first place but always apply wisdom,God will forgive you on this one after all you are still new in ministry and you have to know that having a mentor is very important as minister.

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Investnow2017:

Is God God's name? God is a generic terminology for ones in power. God is not a name. God's name is YHWH, translated in English as JEHOVAH. So spelling God omitting the o is pointless dear.

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Beosten:



I was very sure. My visions had always been 99% correct all the time. I was barely about 3 months in the ministry and you expect me to tell someone that her child should not leave Nigeria after procuring visa?

Even if you are a day old in the ministry, you have no right to withhold God's words. You need to understand your position as a messenger of the most high. The word is not yours, you were just meant to pass it across so why allow your feelings to turn you into an obstacle?
Well you can still make amend by asking for forgiveness from the person involved.

It is well

It's better you had told them
Then

LadyExcellency:
The Prophets are just like messengers in today's palace. A prophet can beg God (intercession) to set aside punishment already pronounced and not to ask God to have relationship with the person.

The people of Israel asked God to speak to them through Moses, not directly.

Exodus 20 vs 18-26(ERV)
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18. During all this time, the people in the valley heard the thundering and saw the lightning on the mountain. They saw smoke rising from the mountain and heard the sound of the trumpet. They were afraid and shook with fear. They stood away from the mountain and watched.
19. Then the people said to Moses, “If you want to speak to us, then we will listen. But please don’t let God speak to us. If this happens, we will die.”
20. Then Moses said to them, “Don’t be afraid! God has come to test you. He wants you to respect him so that you will not sin.”
21. The people stood far away from the mountain while Moses went to the dark cloud where God was.
22. Then the Lord told Moses to say this to the Israelites: “You people have seen that I talked with you from heaven.
23. So you must not make idols using gold or silver to compete with me. You must not make these false gods.
24. “Make a special altar for me. You should use dirt to make this altar. Offer sheep and cattle as burnt offerings and fellowship offerings on this altar. Do this in every place where I tell you to remember me. Then I will come and bless you.
25. But if you use stones to make an altar, then don’t use stones that were cut with an iron tool.[d] If you do that, it will make the altar unacceptable.
26. And you must not make steps leading up to the altar. If there are steps, when people look up to the altar, they will be able to see under your clothes.”

God grants Israel what they asked, specifying that the prophets will come from within their own population

Deuteronomy 18 vs 14-19
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14. “You will force the other nations out of your land. They listen to people who use magic and try to tell the future. But the Lord your God will not let you do these things.
15. The Lord your God will send to you a prophet. This prophet will come from among your own people, and he will be like me. You must listen to him.
16. God will send you this prophet because that is what you asked him to do. When you were gathered together at Mount Horeb, you became frightened and said, ‘Don’t let us hear the voice of the Lord our God again! Don’t let us see that great fire or we will die!’

17. “The Lord said to me, ‘What they ask for is good.
18. I will send them a prophet like you. This prophet will be one of their own people. I will tell him what he must say, and he will tell the people everything I command.
19. This prophet will speak for me, and I will punish anyone who refuses to listen to my commands.’
20. “But a prophet might say something that I did not tell him to say. And he might tell people that he is speaking for me. If this happens, that prophet must be killed. Also a prophet might come that speaks for other gods. That prophet must also be killed.
21. You might be thinking, ‘How can we know if something a prophet says is not from the Lord?’
22. If a prophet says he is speaking for the Lord, but what he says does not happen, you will know that the Lord did not say it. You will know that this prophet was speaking his own ideas. You don’t need to be afraid of him.

Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?

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Beosten:



I was very sure. My visions had always been 99% correct all the time. I was barely about 3 months in the ministry and you expect me to tell someone that her child should not leave Nigeria after procuring visa?

That's the part of ministry you'll learn from mentorship and personal experience. Be careful who you choose as a mentor, though. Solomon said for wisdom to lead the Israelites. It was through that wisdom he knew the right words to say at the right time and the people stood in awe of him not minding his youth. It was also that wisdom that helped him organize the people they became the greatest nation while he was alive.

I remember my former pastor talked of how he when he was new in ministry, he used to run his mouth whenever he sees anything concerning someone until they started insulting him and even throwing curses on him for trying to spoil their marriage, business, etc. He had to learn when to speak and when to keep quiet. When to also use parables to pass across a message.

Beosten:



I was very sure. My visions had always been 99% correct all the time. I was barely about 3 months in the ministry and you expect me to tell someone that her child should not leave Nigeria after procuring visa?

Yes. You should have.

You think being a prophet means that your prophecies will always be pleasing to the ear? Infact sir, let me inform you, majority of your prophecies will be painful to say as a prophet, yet you must say it...off course with wisdom.

Now let me also tell you another thing. God knows you are in training. So he isnt waiting with a cane to flog you for this.
Instead he is teaching you lovingly and gradually what it fully means to be a prophet. Just apologise to him and ask him for strength , and put it at the back of your mind.

Now, dont worry, another opportunity will come, just ensure you do better and tell the people what God send you to tell them.
You're in training, the master knows this.
Just relax, the teacher will teach you gradually. All the best sir. May your annionting not dry up. Amen.

Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?

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Kobojunkie:

Let's just stick to the dictionary meaning of the word, shall we?


The Prophets of Old served as go-betweens between God and the people of Israel. That was what the people asked for and that is what God gave them in Deuteronomy 18.

You mean to say that a prophet will query God on what conflict He got with an individual and then hear from both sides?

God can't be in conflict with man. Creator can't be in conflict with creation. God is always right. He has the last word hence a prophet is always sent, he is not authorized to speak if God didn't give him a word. The only additional role a prophet can play is intercession.

One African proverb says messengers don't speak in riddles.

Kobojunkie:
The people of Israel asked God to speak to them through Moses, not directly.

God grants Israel what they asked, specifying that the prophets will come from within their own population

Moses was a great Leader, a mediator between God and Israelites. He became a mediator when he forego replacing Jacob when God wanted to kill all Israelites and make him a great nation in place of twelve tribes of Israel.

Jesus Christ is a mediator because forgo his eternal glory to come on earth to die for mankind

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LadyExcellency:


You mean to say that a prophet will query God on what conflict He got with an individual and then hear from both sides?

God can't be in conflict with man. Creator can't be in conflict with creation. God is always right. He has the last word hence a prophet is always sent, he is not authorized to speak if God didn't give him a word. The only additional role a prophet can play is intercession.

One African proverb says messengers don't speak in riddles.

I don't know about what you mean as far as conflict is concerned. That is why I chose to go with the dictionary meaning so we are on the same page.

God is always right but there was at least one situation that arose that required God to make additional provisions

Beosten:



I was very sure. My visions had always been 99% correct all the time. I was barely about 3 months in the ministry and you expect me to tell someone that her child should not leave Nigeria after procuring visa?

It doesn't matter how long you have been in ministry bro.God called you,therefore,you are doing his works.If He tells you to say something,then say it the way it is,no matter how bad.He knows better than mere mortals.So,I think,he will hold you accountable for disobeying him

Kobojunkie:
Discern or get revelation? Of what? What do you think the Spirit of God who lives inside of those who are followers of Jesus Christ is there for? He is there to answer our every questions, guide, help, counsel, comfort. He is God Himself living inside of you.

Everything you wrote is correct, but human factor such as unbelief, doubting, low spirituality limits what the Holy spirit could do. Hence other who mature will/can help the weak

FreelanceRebel:


Everything you wrote is correct, but human factor such as unbelief, doubting, low spirituality limits what the Holy spirit could do. Hence other who mature will/can help the weak

Back up for a second..what do you mean by low spirituality?

God made us Humans and from my understanding He uses even our doubts/ unbelief to accomplish His Will in our live. So, I don't think they "limit" God in the ways many like to think.

The way I see it, the job is His, as long as we are submitted to Him, to help us in overcoming all the hurdles in our path. He just doesn't pack it in... He moves us to a new troubleshooting mode, to resolve the human problem encountered at that point before moving us back into running mode again.

Beosten:
Let me start from here: I have what it takes to be a pastor and I had numerous visions that confirmed my calling. But I have a disability, and I refused to go into pastoral ministry since 2005. I came into the full-time ministry a few months ago. I came into the ministry because it seemed God was the one punishing me for refusing to do the needful.

Then a church member came to me for blessing saying that her child already procured visa to travel out. That was before covid19 break. I prayed for the child. But God revealed to me in a vision at night that the child should not leave Nigeria, and that it will end in tears. I didn't tell them anything about the vision and the child left Nigeria.

The child has just been deported and a lot of money down the drain.

How should a pastor handle this kind of thing without offending those looking for counseling? I will pray for forgiveness, but can God hold me accountable for this error?

You should have mentioned it but albeit in a subtle way....

Can we pls talk?

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