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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 8:43pm On Sep 05, 2020
Maximus69:


I know how to torment him by responding to his questions but always avoid his arguments!

Once i've made myself clear that there is just one single Christian group on planet earth today, any time he comes across me with his questions on my opinion i'll intelligently respond not because of him but for the benefit of other followers who may be carried away thinking he's got a point, but when i notice he's out of questions i'll turn away from him! wink


So says the the TORMENTER........ I am through with you aka Maximus69 the Jehovah and Jesus grin grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 8:46pm On Sep 05, 2020
Only Jehovah's Witnesses are worshiping the one TRUE God!
Any intelligent question for me to handle discreetly with the scriptures? wink
achorladey:


So says the the TORMENTER........ I am through with you aka Maximus69 the Jehovah and Jesus grin grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Blabbermouth: 8:53pm On Sep 05, 2020
haddeylium:



Blabbermouth, is this you?
Who said you ain't doing well in "Love". I'm saying you are not the only one.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 8:54pm On Sep 05, 2020
Maximus69:
Only Jehovah's Witnesses are worshiping the one TRUE God!
Any intelligent question for me to handle discreetly with the scriptures? wink

But you are through with me at 12:58 pm this afternoon when DappaD your brother said you still have time responding to me grin grin grin grin grin grin. The TORMENTER

State just one scripture that says Christians should put faith in a VISIBLE ORGANIZATION called WTBTS for salvation? grin grin grin grin

Don't comeback and tell me its not intelligent oooo. Or use your normal I AM through WITH you motto.

Maximus69: Only Jehovah's Witnesses are worshiping the one TRUE God!

Achorladey: One scripture word for word to support the above grin grin grin grin

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 9:02pm On Sep 05, 2020
Blabbermouth:

Who said you ain't doing well in "Love". I'm saying you are not the only one.

The definition of this “LOVE” is not of a contigent sort. Infact Jesus said his followers will be identified with this mark of LOVE existing today only amongst Jehovah's Witnesses (John 13:34,35)
That's why you'll often hear people say
“Tufia Jehovah's Witnesses love only themselves haba sef”
And you yourself confirmed it in your preceding comments on another thread.


And that's why I'll feel safer and at peace in the home of a JW I've never met before in my life residing in a foreign country(John 14:27) than in the home of a blood relative I've known all my life in Nigeria. smiley

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 9:20pm On Sep 05, 2020
DappaD:


The definition of this “LOVE” is not of a contigent sort. Infact Jesus said his followers will be identified with this mark of LOVE existing today only amongst Jehovah's Witnesses (John 13:34,35)
That's why you'll often hear people say
“Tufia Jehovah's Witnesses love only themselves haba sef”
And you yourself confirmed it in your preceding comments on another thread.


And that's why I'll feel safer and at peace in the home of a JW I've never met before in my life residing in a foreign country(John 14:27) than in the home of a blood relative I've known all my life in Nigeria. smiley


DappaD: Tufia Jehovah's Witnesses love only themselves haba sef”

Achorladey: Matthew 5: 46-47......you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? 47And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that?

Let's no talk about other Christian denominations TAX collectors and PAGANS have the same denominator with JWS you AGREE grin grin grin grin grin

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:30pm On Sep 05, 2020
achorladey:

But you are through with me at 12:58 pm this afternoon when DappaD your brother said you still have time responding to me grin grin grin grin grin grin. The TORMENTER
State just one scripture that says Christians should put faith in a VISIBLE ORGANIZATION called WTBTS for salvation? grin grin grin grin
Don't comeback and tell me its not intelligent oooo. Or use your normal I AM through WITH you motto.
Maximus69: Only Jehovah's Witnesses are worshiping the one TRUE God!
Achorladey: One scripture word for word to support the above grin grin grin grin

Jesus organized just one GROUP when there were already existing religious GROUPS in Judah all claiming worshipers of the same God! smiley

Even his forerunner Prophet (John the baptist) who has been gathering followers openly told his followers to go and join Jesus' GROUP! John 1:36-37, 3:25-30

Jesus foretold a time when Satan will devastate his group and infuse his own agents in their midst! Matthew 13:24-30

Jesus warned that false prophets will arise and mislead many with great signs! Matthew 24:11

Jesus said his true followers during all these period will be IDENTIFIED by their FRUIT! Matthew 7:16-18

Jesus said they will be the salt and light of the world! Matthew 5:13-16

Jesus said they'll be united in the same line of thought! John 17:20-23

Jesus said they'll have love amongst themselves and all other religionsists will notice it! John 13:34-35

Jesus said due to their strong bond to stick to themselves and refusal to allow Politics and Racism to affect them, every nation will hate them! Matthew 10:22-25; John 17:14

Jesus asked them not to make use of weapons to lead or settle disputes! Matthew 26:52

Jesus said they'll be preaching and teaching till the end time! Matthew 24:14

Of course he will not tell you the GROUP name they're to bear in the end time, is it not the GROUP name observers gave them in Antioch (Christians) all of you are claiming now?

So Jehovah and Jesus kept the unique GROUP name until 1931 when all false Religions have pitched their tent and his own worshipers have been IDENTIFIED as a unique GROUP, then Jehovah revealed the hidden name that beats all other religious group names:-

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

I will respond but don't come telling me how to answer because as i've said earlier, my response is to expose your identity not to please you! wink
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 9:39pm On Sep 05, 2020
Maximus69:


Jesus organized just one GROUP when there were already existing religious GROUPS in Judah all claiming worshipers of the same God! smiley

Even his forerunner Prophet (John the baptist) who has been gathering followers openly told his followers to go and join Jesus' GROUP! John 1:36-37, 3:25-30

Jesus foretold a time when Satan will devastate his group and infuse his own agents in their midst! Matthew 13:24-30

Jesus warned that false prophets will arise and mislead many with great signs! Matthew 24:11

Jesus said his true followers during all these period will be IDENTIFIED by their FRUIT! Matthew 7:16-18

Jesus said they will be the salt and light of the world! Matthew 5:13-16

Jesus said they'll be united in the same line of thought! John 17:20-23

Jesus said they'll have love amongst themselves and all other religionsists will notice it! John 13:34-35

Jesus said due to their strong bond to stick to themselves and refusal to allow Politics and Racism to affect them, every nation will hate them! Matthew 10:22-25; John 17:14

Jesus asked them not to make use of weapons to lead or settle disputes! Matthew 26:52

Jesus said they'll be preaching and teaching till the end time! Matthew 24:14

Of course he will not tell you the GROUP name they're to bear in the end time, is it not the GROUP name observers gave them in Antioch (Christians) all of you are claiming now?

So Jehovah and Jesus kept the unique GROUP name until 1931 when all false Religions have pitched their tent and his own worshipers have been IDENTIFIED as a unique GROUP, then Jehovah revealed the hidden name that beats all other religious group names:-

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

I will respond but don't come telling me how to answer because as i've said earlier, my response is to expose your identity not to please you! wink





Maximus69: I will respond but don't come telling me how to answer because as i've said earlier, my response is to expose your identity not to please you! ;

Achorladey: grin grin grin grin grin see person wey want TORMENT dey put CAVEAT. This remind of a post here that you said you don't need my EPISTLE grin grin grin grin grin

The only thing I need to do here is to look at each Bible verse cited to see if any match my question. If none match the question. Its of no importance to what the question asked.

Looking at it from start to finish, I didn't see one that state PUT FAITH in a GROUP not to talk of organization for salvation

Maximus69: So Jehovah and Jesus kept the unique GROUP name until 1931 when all false Religions have pitched their tent and his own worshipers have been IDENTIFIED as a unique GROUP,

Achorladey: Reference for this. A scripture that states Jehovah and Jesus kept a unique group name until 1931. That year 1931 too dey Bible abi grin grin grin grin


You remember your before 1914 no group is AGAINST JESUS after 1914 all groups except JWS is AGAINST JESUS grin grin grin grin grin All from the same hands typing and poster. Na your load you go carry am grin grin grin

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 9:46pm On Sep 05, 2020
achorladey:


Maximus69: I will respond but don't come telling me how to answer because as i've said earlier, my response is to expose your identity not to please you! ;

Achorladey: grin grin grin grin grin see person wey want TORMENT dey put CAVEAT. This remind of a post here that you said you don't need my EPISTLE grin grin grin grin grin

The only thing I need to do here is to look at each Bible verse cited to see if any match my question. If none match the question. Its of no importance to what the question asked.

Looking at it from start to finish, I didn't see one that state PUT FAITH in a GROUP not to talk of organization.

Maximus69: So Jehovah and Jesus kept the unique GROUP name until 1931 when all false Religions have pitched their tent and his own worshipers have been IDENTIFIED as a unique GROUP,

Achorladey: Reference for this. A scripture that states Jehovah and Jesus kept a unique group name until 1931. That year 1931 too dey Bible abi grin grin grin grin

Jehovah allowed all false religionsists to pitch their tents using the borrowed name observers gave his Witnesses in Antioch, but in 1931 revealed the unique GROUP name!
Isaiah 65:15

Of course i know you will ask for where the date is written in the scriptures, but sorry Jesus taught us to give you the evidence of fulfilling prophecies only! cheesy
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 9:49pm On Sep 05, 2020
Maximus69:


Jehovah allowed all false religionsists to pitch their tents using the borrowed name observers gave his Witnesses in Antioch, but in 1931 revealed the unique GROUP name!
Isaiah 65:15

Of course i know you will ask for where the date is written in the scriptures, but sorry Jesus taught us to give you the evidence of fulfilling prophecies only! cheesy

Isaiah 65:15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord God shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name:


What is the name? grin grin grin grin grin grin I am only seeing another name grin grin grin grin


Peter and Paul and many others suffered as borrowed name even went ahead to say we that follow should SUFFER as borrowed name not the unique one formed in 1931 which has no reference. grin grin grin grin

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:04pm On Sep 05, 2020
achorladey:

Isaiah 65:15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord God shall slay thee, and call his SERVANTS by another name
What is the name? grin grin grin grin grin grin I am only seeing another name grin grin grin grin
Peter and Paul even went ahead to say we should SUFFER as "borrowed name" not the unique one formed in 1931 which has no reference.

Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!
Thanks for quoting it out for everyone to see! smiley

So the true God will call his own SERVANTS by another name

The GROUP name you people have turned to a curse unto God's chosen (Jesus) is "CHRISTIANS" because it's attached to God's anointed one "CHRIST" but the new GROUP name that's difficult for all Satan's agents to bear is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

Note how you've been battling throughout NL to prove that all the Religions claiming Christians should accept each other as such but just mention the group name Jehovah's Witnesses as see them show discomfort!

WHY?

Jesus said a great chasm has been fixed between you guys and JWs! Luke 16:26 wink
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 10:13pm On Sep 05, 2020
Maximus69:


Wow! Wow!! Wow!!!
Thanks for quoting it out for everyone to see! smiley

So the true God will call his own SERVANTS by another name

The GROUP name you people have turned to a curse unto God's chosen (Jesus) is "CHRISTIANS" because it's attached to God's anointed one "CHRIST" but the new GROUP name that's difficult for all Satan's agents to bear is JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES

Note how you've been battling throughout NL to prove that all the Religions claiming Christians should accept each other as such but just mention the group name Jehovah's Witnesses as see them show discomfort!

WHY?

Jesus said there is a great chasm between you guys and JWs! Luke 16:26 wink



Achorladey: grin grin cheesy grin grin cheesy

Maximus69: The GROUP name you people have turned to a curse unto God's chosen

Achorladey: You have not provided the scripture of the another name.

The name you called a CURSE is what Peter, Paul and many others suffered as and they went further to state we that follow should suffer using the name that is CURSED grin grin grin grin grin grin

They didn't use a unique name made in 1931 or ask us to suffer using name made in 1931 with no reference grin grin grin grin grin

So in essence the new name you are trying to bring up is JEHOVAH'S WITNESS but his chosen ones were already called by JEHOVAH'S WITNESS according to your teachings before the account in Isaiah 65:15 was recorded grin grin grin grin grin

To make this more funny, you usually type words like "TRUE CHRISTIANS" the ONLY TRUE CHRISTIANS" even such words are found in the magazines of the ORGANIZATION you belong grin grin grin grin

From the discussion so far we can rewrite such as the TRUE BORROWED NAME....... the only TRUE BORROWED NAME........... the ONLY TRUE CURSED NAME grin grin grin grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 10:26pm On Sep 05, 2020
achorladey:

Achorladey: grin grin cheesy grin grin cheesy
Maximus69: The GROUP name you people have turned to a curse unto God's chosen
Achorladey: You have not provided the scripture of the another name.
The name you called a CURSE is what Peter, Paul and many others suffered as and they went further to state suffer using the name that is CURSED grin grin grin grin grin grin
They didn't using a unique name made in 1931 or ask us to suffer using name made in 1931 with no reference grin grin grin grin grin

Note that the GROUP name "Christians" wasn't what they choose for themselves but observers in Antioch gave them, and back then it was like a reproach because those who called them by that name wanted to mock/ridicule them!
But the Christians accepted it in good faith ready to be counted unworthy of honour in the society back then!
For your information, it was a criminal offence to bear that GROUP name Christian back then because the Pharisees were looking for anyone putting faith in Jesus as the Christ and they're prepared to kill them!
So it wasn't something palatable as most of you are dancing around today claiming Christians but today Politicians have been using it to rob people in order to struggle for prominence! wink

So Jehovah hid the unique GROUP name he wanted to call all his SERVANTS right from Abel till today. Hebrew 11:4-12:1

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Isaiah 43:10-12 wink

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by haddeylium(m): 10:26pm On Sep 05, 2020
achorladey:


haddeylium: For someone that have a background been a Jw. This your assertion is so embarrassing and it saddens me for you.

Achorladey: grin grin grin you never see anything. I don't envy your sadness at all and don't be embarrassed for me. If your learning never carry reach there, go and learn about the ASSERTION

haddeylium: If you run out of what to use against them; Don't stoop so low to lying.

Achorladey: I repeated the statement, you call it an assertion now it is stoop so low to lying. Time dey for you counter the assertions angry grin grin grin


haddeylium: You can do some googling, they're many of this accusations you can lift online

Achorladey: I don't need to Google alone. I need your website too they have such collectors items too grin grin grin grin

Haddeyllium: This love can only be found among Jw Ouch! Someone denied you their daughter?...Eyya

Achorladey: Now you confirm the REAL LOVE INDEED in your midst grin grin grin. That you can relate to such experience tells me so grin grin grin

haddeylium: Now, I see where this springs from

Achorladey: You just dey start, you never see finish. So next time don't use cheap points like, JWS don't go to war to prove JWs have love amongst themselves. Na pure public relations.

Concerning this.....Someone denied you their daughter?...Eyya. Enjoy your speculation, assumptions grin grin grin grin


haddeylium: I don't have a problem with you btw. Enjoy!

Achorladey: grin grin grin grin I don't know where the problem started in the first place and yes we should enjoy, it a gift we all have.









The last time I checked
Assertion: A statement or declaration which lacks support or evidence.
But there you're embarrassing yourself again


Instead of you trying to create a justification for leaving Jehovah's organization...
Why don't you just go out there and teach people your new found truth and make disciples.
Likeeeee, move on with your life Mr Kolade

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 10:37pm On Sep 05, 2020
haddeylium:




The last time I checked
Assertion: A statement or declaration which lacks support or evidence.
But there you're embarrassing yourself again


Instead of you trying to create a justification for leaving Jehovah's organization...
Why don't you just go out there and teach people your new found truth and make disciples.
Likeeeee, move on with your life Mr Kolade

haddeylium: The last time I checked

Achorladey: Go and check again

haddeylium: Assertion: A statement or declaration which lacks support or evidence.
But there you're embarrassing yourself again

Achorladey:

assertion
/əˈsəːʃ(ə)n/
noun
a confident and forceful statement of fact or belief.
"his assertion that his father had deserted the family"


Similar:
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contention
statement
claim
submission
postulation
averment
opinion
proclamation
announcement
pronouncement
assurance
attestation
affirmation
protestation
profession
swearing
insistence
avowal
maintenance
asseveration
the action of asserting something.
"the assertion of his legal rights"
Similar:
defence
upholding

that's for Oxford, pick up Webster you go find am there too. Oga haddeylium I didn't ask you to be embarrassed on my behalf grin grin grin grin. Face what is before you.

haddeylium: Instead of you trying to create a justification for leaving Jehovah's organization...Why don't you just go out there and teach people your new found truth and make disciples.

Achorladey: Oga this is Nairaland forum, you didn't ask me to register, I didn't ask you to register. I haven't disclosed to you that I want to create a JUSTIFICATION for leaving "JEHOVAH'S organization" grin grin grin grin

haddeylium: Why don't you just go out there and teach people your new found truth and make disciples.

Achorladey: grin grin grin grin I forgot ni sir the need to do the above grin grin grin grin face what is before you Oga haddeylium.

haddeylium: Likeeeee, move on with your life Mr Kolade

Achorladey: Simply because I make comment and post about your beliefs my life is STAGNANT grin grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 10:51pm On Sep 05, 2020
Maximus69:


Note that the GROUP name "Christians" wasn't what they choose for themselves but observers in Antioch gave them, and back then it was like a reproach because those who called them buy that name wanted to mock/ridicule them!
But the Christians accepted it in good faith ready to be counted unworthy of honour in the society back then!
For your information, it was a criminal offence to bear that GROUP name Christian back then because the Pharisees were looking for anyone putting faith in Jesus as the Christ and they're prepared to kill them!
So it wasn't something palatable as most of you are dancing around today claiming Christians but today Politicians have been using it to rob people in order to struggle for prominence! wink

So Jehovah hid the unique GROUP name he wanted to call all his SERVANTS right from Abel till today. Hebrew 11:4-12:1

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES!

Isaiah 43:10-12 wink


Maximus69: So Jehovah hid the unique GROUP name he wanted to call all his SERVANTS right from Abel till today. Hebrew 11:4-12:1

Achorladey: Isaiah 43: 10-12 was written long before the use of CHRISTIAN. Isaiah 43:10-12 was equally written long before Isaiah 65:15 grin grin grin grin

At least we know Jesus read from the book of Isaiah. That name too was hidden from Jesus Christ grin grin grin grin

You still go round and round with your narratives

It that same name JESUS was not AGAINST before 1914 it was the same Jesus was against after 1914 with no reference grin grin grin grin I dey gbadun this narrative.

See the below again.......

The name you called a CURSE is what Peter, Paul and many others suffered as and they went further to state we that follow should suffer using the name that is CURSED grin grin

They didn't use a unique name made in 1931 or ask us to suffer using name made in 1931 with no reference grin grin grin grin grin

So in essence the new name you are trying to bring up is JEHOVAH'S WITNESS but his chosen ones were already called by JEHOVAH'S WITNESS according to your teachings before the account in Isaiah 65:15 was recorded shocked shocked shocked

To make this more funny, you usually type words like "TRUE CHRISTIANS" the ONLY TRUE CHRISTIANS" even such words are found in the magazines of the ORGANIZATION you belong shocked shocked shocked

From the discussion so far we can rewrite such as the TRUE BORROWED NAME....... the only TRUE BORROWED NAME........... the ONLY TRUE CURSED NAME


Acts 11:26 After he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year they assembled with them in the congregation and taught quite a crowd, and it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians..........NWT

You see am grin grin grin grin
Jehovah gave them BORROWED name by DIVINE Providence, Jehovah gave them cursed name by divine Providence

but no where it is written in the scripture that Jehovah changed the cursed name by divine Providence to JEHOVAH'S WITNESS in 1931. No where in the scripture that the borrowed name was changed by divine Providence to JEHOVAH'S WITNESS grin grin grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 11:21pm On Sep 05, 2020
Janosky:

The Catholic Church,(the foremost Exponent of Trinity) their Bible says God instructs angels to "Pay homage to Jesus" @ Hebrew 1:6.
catholic bible

6 Again, when he brings the First-born into
the world, he says: Let all the Angels of God
pay him homage




WAYO false jw janosky

most all bible translations say: and let all the angels of God worship him

but you jw fraud, although you don't believe trinity and you say the catholic church is the foremost exponent of trinity, you then use the catholic church translation against most all other bible translations to agree with your false jw false belief

you way heap big pharisee hypercrit, arent you mumu fraud
and of course hell of a LIAR




Heb 1:6  And again, when he bringeth in the firstbegotten into the world, he saith, And let all the angels of God worship him





Joh 8:44  You come from your father, the devil, and you desire to do what your father wants you to do. The devil was a murderer from the beginning. He has never been truthful. He doesn't know what the truth is. Whenever he tells a lie, he's doing what comes naturally to him. He's a liar and the father of lies.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by haddeylium(m): 11:23pm On Sep 05, 2020
achorladey:


haddeylium: The last time I checked

Achorladey: Go and check again

haddeylium: Assertion: A statement or declaration which lacks support or evidence.
But there you're embarrassing yourself again

Achorladey:

assertion
/əˈsəːʃ(ə)n/
noun
a confident and forceful statement of fact or belief.
"his assertion that his father had deserted the family"


Similar:
declaration
contention
statement
claim
submission
postulation
averment
opinion
proclamation
announcement
pronouncement
assurance
attestation
affirmation
protestation
profession
swearing
insistence
avowal
maintenance
asseveration
the action of asserting something.
"the assertion of his legal rights"
Similar:
defence
upholding

that's for Oxford, pick up Webster you go find am there too. Oga haddeylium I didn't ask you to be embarrassed on my behalf grin grin grin grin. Face what is before you.

haddeylium: Instead of you trying to create a justification for leaving Jehovah's organization...Why don't you just go out there and teach people your new found truth and make disciples.

Achorladey: Oga this is Nairaland forum, you didn't ask me to register, I didn't ask you to register. I haven't disclosed to you that I want to create a JUSTIFICATION for leaving "JEHOVAH'S organization" grin grin grin grin

haddeylium: Why don't you just go out there and teach people your new found truth and make disciples.

Achorladey: grin grin grin grin I forgot ni sir the need to do the above grin grin grin grin face what is before you Oga haddeylium.

haddeylium: Likeeeee, move on with your life Mr Kolade

Achorladey: Simply because I make comment and post about your beliefs my life is STAGNANT grin grin grin grin






Nexttime when you see polysemic word as this..
You'll check the context for the meaning.
Check the image attached
You owe me for this lesson oo...lol



If you find it liberating leaving Jehovah's organization; it shouldn't be giving you PTSD when they're mentioned nahh
I bet, your most typed word on this forum is Jw organization grin
Ogaaa, why noww

It's not that difficult...is it?...Move on with your life and teach people your new found truth

Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 11:51pm On Sep 05, 2020
haddeylium:




The last time I checked
Assertion: A statement or declaration which lacks support or evidence.
But there you're embarrassing yourself again


Instead of you trying to create a justification for leaving Jehovah's organization...
Why don't you just go out there and teach people your new found truth and make disciples.
Likeeeee, move on with your life Mr Kolade

That one go hear? grin
Like I already said, he's a SOLD-OUT DISSENTER. undecided
He has nothing better to do than to incite JW's all day all night on NL so as to make them feel out of place but when they(JW's) maintain their faith and silence him(Ephesians 6:14, 1Peter 3:15), he'll resort to other attacks—and start telling you about all the things that happened 100years ago in the organization as if he was there to witness any of it. embarassed

Ask him whether since he came to nairaland if he has been able to impart anybody with his words, that would be a resounding NO because anybody maligning Jehovah and his organization cannot have his life organized or figured out—since such one will always be restless. grin

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Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Blabbermouth: 11:56pm On Sep 05, 2020
DappaD:


The definition of this “LOVE” is not of a contigent sort. Infact Jesus said his followers will be identified with this mark of LOVE existing today only amongst Jehovah's Witnesses (John 13:34,35)
That's why you'll often hear people say
“Tufia Jehovah's Witnesses love only themselves haba sef”
And you yourself confirmed it in your preceding comments on another thread.


And that's why I'll feel safer and at peace in the home of a JW I've never met before in my life residing in a foreign country(John 14:27) than in the home of a blood relative I've known all my life in Nigeria. smiley
It's not as if anything will change if I raise the heat.... No problem, enjoy your sect.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by johnw47: 12:02am On Sep 06, 2020
Maximus69:

Note the bolded!
Let me tell you that the label "snake man" you gave him is not just your own making my young lady, it's God's holy spirit that spoke through you!
Achorladey is always after integrity keepers just like the snake in Genesis chapter 3 undecided

laughing, u r so delusional, oh unstable false jw mad max
and of course u cannot stop lying just like your daddy the devil:

Joh 8:44  Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Rev_21:8  But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 12:03am On Sep 06, 2020
Blabbermouth:

It's not as if anything will change if I raise the heat.... No problem, enjoy your sect.

Go and confirm all I said above. Nothing is out of place. That's just how things are.
The LOVE amongst JW's runs very deep.(1Peter 1:22)
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Blabbermouth: 12:11am On Sep 06, 2020
DappaD:


Go and confirm all I said above. Nothing is out of place. That's just how things are.
The LOVE amongst JW's runs very deep.(1Peter 1:22)
I hear. Howbeit, there be those amongst them that spread legs door-to-door rather than spread the gospel door-to-door.... A very charitable love.
I won't make heaven (I mean "eternal life"wink by claiming JW for Jesus. Last I checked, he was going to judge and reward not by the denomination you belong to... But by His Grace and you are rewarded by your works.
Sir, it profiteth me nothing therefore to associate with any denomination.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 12:24am On Sep 06, 2020
Blabbermouth:

I hear. Howbeit, there be those amongst them that spread legs door-to-door rather than spread the gospel door-to-door.... A very charitable love.
I won't make heaven (I mean "eternal life"wink by claiming JW for Jesus. Last I checked, he was going to judge and reward not by the denomination you belong to... But by His Grace and you are rewarded by your works.
Sir, it profiteth me nothing therefore to associate with any denomination.

@bolded, I suggest you leave unsubstantiated claims/jokes/weak humour alone let's focus on what we're discussing here. undecided
So why is it that it's only amongst JW's that you consider the bolded to be a sin? smiley smiley Simple, it's because you believe only JW's stand for the truth in the Bible. grin
Mr Blabbermouth, in all your churches, who holds anyone accountable for their actions if they commit fornication or any other sin?
Do you know that Jehovah's Witnesses hold fast to Bible standards to “STOP KEEPING COMPANY” with sexual immoral/sinful/unrepentant people?—1Corinthians 5:11, 6:9,10
How many of your churches strictly follow this stern but simple rule from the Bible? embarassed embarassed
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Blabbermouth: 12:35am On Sep 06, 2020
DappaD:


@bolded, I suggest you leave unsubstantiated claims/jokes/weak humour alone let's focus on what we're discussing here. undecided
So why is it that it's only amongst JW's that you consider the bolded to be a sin? smiley smiley Simple, it's because you believe only JW's stand for the truth in the Bible. grin
Mr Blabbermouth, in all your churches, who holds anyone accountable for their actions if they commit fornication or any other sin?
Do you know that Jehovah's Witnesses hold fast to Bible standards to “STOP KEEPING COMPANY” with sexual immoral/sinful/unrepentant people?—1Corinthians 5:11, 6:9,10
How many of your churches strictly follow this stern but simple rule from the Bible? embarassed embarassed
You still don't get it do you? In my Church, there are only 4 beings - Me, God, Jesus And The Holy spirit (yea, you can refer to the Holy spirit as an active force if you like)...
I don't go to churches made with bricks and woods!
So, those points you raised ain't my problem.
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by DappaD: 12:46am On Sep 06, 2020
Blabbermouth:

You still don't get it do you? In my Church, there are only 4 beings - Me, God, Jesus And The Holy spirit (yea, you can refer to the Holy spirit as an active force if you like)...
I don't go to churches made with bricks and woods!
So, those points you raised ain't my problem.

No wahala I Don hear you.
You know better than the Christians of the first century who worshiped together as one united “CHURCH” abi?—Acts 2:46-47, Hebrews 10:34-35
Emela ka m chịa ochi biko grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 7:13am On Sep 06, 2020
haddeylium:



Nexttime when you see polysemic word as this..
You'll check the context for the meaning.
Check the image attached
You owe me for this lesson oo...lol



If you find it liberating leaving Jehovah's organization; it shouldn't be giving you PTSD when they're mentioned nahh
I bet, your most typed word on this forum is Jw organization grin
Ogaaa, why noww

It's not that difficult...is it?...Move on with your life and teach people your new found truth

haddeylium: Nexttime when you see polysemic word as this..

Achorladey: grin grin grin Poly carries a sense of more than one. Not only did I give you the meaning, I gave you similar words for assertions that is more than one

haddeylium: You'll check the context for the meaning.

Achorladey: Pele Oga contextual grin grin grin you said what I said are assertions( it lacks evidence or supports) that's your viewpoint. Not mine.

What is my viewpoint about what I said( when you read your dictionary meaning 1 and meaning 3 you will understand why assertion is POLYSEMIC grin grin grin

haddeyllium: Check the image attached

Achorladey: After checking I found out what Posted earlier is found in number 1 and 3 but you the master at context jump to number 2 grin grin grin

haddeylium: You owe me for this lesson oo...lol

Achorladey: If this were to be screening test for you. It leave less to desire.

haddeylium: If you find it liberating leaving Jehovah's organization; it shouldn't be giving you PTSD when they're mentioned nahh

Achorladey: As if Jesus ever said it is when you Join "Jehovah's organization" is liberating grin grin

Post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) grin grin grin grin because I mention your organization a lot it means I have PTSD grin grin grin. I told you earlier from tags, labels, name calling you go enter insults. Your people here are masters at it. It didn't take long before you join.

Before it is because they didn't give me their daughter to marry, now it is PTSD grin grin grin

haddeylium: I bet, your most typed word on this forum is Jw organization grin

Achorladey: Take that to the central back of Nairaland and cash it out grin grin grin

haddeylium: Ogaaa, why noww

Achorladey: The stuff touch you gan an. Sorry

haddeylium: It's not that difficult...is it?...Move on with your life and teach people your new found truth

Achorladey: grin grin grin grin grin Simply because I make comment and post about your beliefs and the organization you belong my life is STAGNANT and its difficult to move on with my life.

I repeat, Oga haddeylium this is Nairaland forum, you didn't ask me to register, I didn't ask you to register. I haven't disclosed to you that I want to create a JUSTIFICATION for leaving "JEHOVAH'S organization" shocked shocked shocked
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 7:24am On Sep 06, 2020
Blabbermouth:

I hear. Howbeit, there be those amongst them that spread legs door-to-door rather than spread the gospel door-to-door.... A very charitable love.
I won't make heaven (I mean "eternal life"wink by claiming JW for Jesus. Last I checked, he was going to judge and reward not by the denomination you belong to... But by His Grace and you are rewarded by your works.
Sir, it profiteth me nothing therefore to associate with any denomination.


The assertion(some will come and say it lacks evidence or support) is simple...........JWS too are found to be sexually immoral.

Evidence year-in year-out JWS disfellowship members as a result of sexual immorality grin grin grin grin


in DappaD's words Do you know that Jehovah's Witnesses hold fast to Bible standards to “STOP KEEPING COMPANY” [/b]with sexual immoral/sinful/unrepentant people?—1Corinthians 5:11, 6:9,10 How many of your churches strictly follow this stern but simple rule from the Bible.

[b]Achorladey
: As long as people are disciplined for it or not associated with when they are caught don't mean the problem is absent grin grin grin grin Holding fast to Bible standards and your members still get disfellowshipped don't mean the problem is absent shocked shocked shocked shocked

Well in Blabbermouth's words.......It's not as if anything will change if I raise the heat.... No problem, enjoy your sect grin grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 7:42am On Sep 06, 2020
DappaD:


That one go hear? grin
Like I already said, he's a SOLD-OUT DISSENTER. undecided
He has nothing better to do than to incite JW's all day all night on NL so as to make them feel out of place but when they(JW's) maintain their faith and silence him(Ephesians 6:14, 1Peter 3:15), he'll resort to other attacks—and start telling you about all the things that happened 100years ago in the organization as if he was there to witness any of it. embarassed

Ask him whether since he came to nairaland if he has been able to impart anybody with his words, that would be a resounding NO because anybody maligning Jehovah and his organization cannot have his life organized or figured out—since such one will always be restless. grin


DappaD: , he'll resort to other attacks—

Achorladey: grin grin grin no be only attack na defend you go see

DappaD: and start telling you about all the things that happened 100years ago in the organization as if he was there to witness any of it. embarassed

Achorladey: Your organization were there before me. I know what the Catholics did and many other Christian denominations did, the founding fathers of the organization witnessed it grin grin grin grin That's why you call them false Christians day and night. False worshippers everyday.

Another example is the question......Until now, how have [b]we applied the prophecy found at Joel 2:7-9[/b]?

How did you answer the question.........For many years, we have applied that prophecy symbolically to the way in which Jehovah’s people,

Did you witness the birth of such teachings?

Who are the we? Were you there? But you confidently say we to things close to 100 years back grin grin grin grin that you didn't witnessed.

DappaD: Ask him whether since he came to nairaland if he has been able to impart anybody with his words,

Achorladey: You didn't tell me you are collecting and collating monthly field service reports too on nairaland grin grin grin grin grin

DappaD: that would be a resounding NO

Achorladey: Drawing out a case and at the same time, the Judge of the case drawn out grin grin.

DappaD: because anybody maligning Jehovah and his organization cannot have his life organized or figured out—since such one will always be restless.

Achorladey: Na you give me the life grin grin grin grin later they will say others insults and tag them, rather than face what is before them. They divert into something else grin grin all this because I didn't report my impart on nairaland to you grin grin grin grin
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Nobody: 7:47am On Sep 06, 2020
achorladey:

Maximus69: So Jehovah hid the unique GROUP name he wanted to call all his SERVANTS right from Abel till today. Hebrew 11:4-12:1
Achorladey: Isaiah 43: 10-12 was written long before the use of CHRISTIAN. Isaiah 43:10-12 was equally written long before Isaiah 65:15 grin grin grin grin
At least we know Jesus read from the book of Isaiah. That name too was hidden from Jesus Christ grin grin grin grin
You still go round and round with your narratives
It that same name JESUS was not AGAINST before 1914 it was the same Jesus was against after 1914 with no reference grin grin grin grin I dey gbadun this narrative.
See the below again.......
The name you called a CURSE is what Peter, Paul and many others suffered as and they went further to state we that follow should suffer using the name that is CURSED grin grin
They didn't use a unique name made in 1931 or ask us to suffer using name made in 1931 with no reference grin grin grin grin grin
So in essence the new name you are trying to bring up is JEHOVAH'S WITNESS but his chosen ones were already called by JEHOVAH'S WITNESS according to your teachings before the account in Isaiah 65:15 was recorded shocked shocked shocked
To make this more funny, you usually type words like "TRUE CHRISTIANS" the ONLY TRUE CHRISTIANS" even such words are found in the magazines of the ORGANIZATION you belong shocked shocked shocked
From the discussion so far we can rewrite such as the TRUE BORROWED NAME....... the only TRUE BORROWED NAME........... the ONLY TRUE CURSED NAME
Acts 11:26 After he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year they assembled with them in the congregation and taught quite a crowd, and it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians..........NWT
You see am grin grin grin grin
Jehovah gave them BORROWED name by DIVINE Providence, Jehovah gave them cursed name by divine Providence
but no where it is written in the scripture that Jehovah changed the cursed name by divine Providence to JEHOVAH'S WITNESS in 1931. No where in the scripture that the borrowed name was changed by divine Providence to JEHOVAH'S WITNESS grin grin grin grin grin

Go through the scriptures and point to a place where Jesus whether physical or spiritual refer to his followers as "Christians" wink

The last time he mentioned something about his statue was @ Revelations 1:5 there he called himself "the faithful Witness" because Jehovah himself made it clear that Jesus is his Witness @ Isaiah 43:10 where he said "You are my Witnesses and my SERVANT whom i've chosen" note the plural used for "Witnesses" in contrast to the singular use of "SERVANT"

So all worshipers of JEHOVAH from Abel till now Jehovah gave the GROUP name "Jehovah's Witnesses " that's why he (JEHOVAH) made it clear by saying "and my SERVANT (Jesus) whom i've chosen"

That's why Apostle Paul could relate this hidden GROUP name to all those who has been worshiping Jehovah from the beginning till his own time, notice how he kept referring to them as they bear Witness @ Hebrew 11:4 then he concluded @ Hebrew 12:1 that all those people were Witnesses of Jehovah

So whether you like it or not, know today that the name was hidden from all of you so that there could be a distinction between those worshiping Jehovah and those worshiping their own greed {Malachi 3:18} note that before Malachi revealed this secret that honest hearted individuals will notice the distinction between those practicing pure worship and those deceiving themselves, he first mentioned that worshipers of the true God during the end time will be discussing with their neighbours on how to distinguish pure worship {Malachi 3:16} of course everyone today knew very well that the one and only group going to meet their neighbours one on one to discuss about pure worship of the true God are ~

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! smiley
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by Blabbermouth: 7:52am On Sep 06, 2020
DappaD:


No wahala I Don hear you.
You know better than the Christians of the first century who worshiped together as one united “CHURCH” abi?—Acts 2:46-47, Hebrews 10:34-35
Emela ka m chịa ochi biko grin grin
See yourself use "One united Church"... In the first century churches, there were no denominations! Yea, no Pharisees, Sadducees, Essenees, witnesses, Redemeers and What have you... kind of denomination. The church then was only defined by geography... If you are in Ladociae then you fellowship with fellow Christians in Ladociae. If you travel/relocate to pergamus, then you fellowship with Christians at pergamus. Can you do that now?
2. There were no "church"(some brick and wood building termed as the " house of God" where people must have meet in order to worship God) in the first century... All we have is an "Assembly of the called out ones" (I.e. An ecclesia)...
Like the writer said : Where there be no difference amongst us - No Jew, gentile, roman, Greek or whatever.. All is brought unto one, yea even Christ...
Re: I'm Beginning To Reason With Jehovah Witness On Their Stand Concerning Trinity by achorladey: 8:03am On Sep 06, 2020
Maximus69:


Go through the scriptures and point to a place where Jesus whether physical or spiritual refer to his followers as "Christians" wink

The last time he mentioned something about his statue was @ Revelations 1:5 there he called himself "the faithful Witness" because Jehovah himself made it clear that Jesus is his Witness @ Isaiah 43:10 where he said "You are my Witnesses and my SERVANT whom i've chosen" note the plural used for "Witnesses" in contrast to the singular use of "SERVANT"

So all worshipers of JEHOVAH from Abel till now Jehovah gave the GROUP name "Jehovah's Witnesses " that's why he (JEHOVAH) made it clear by saying "and my SERVANT (Jesus) whom i've chosen"

That's why Apostle Paul could relate this hidden GROUP name to all those who has been worshiping Jehovah from the beginning till his own time, notice how he kept referring to them as they bear Witness @ Hebrew 11:4 then he concluded @ Hebrew 12:1 that all those people were Witnesses of Jehovah

So whether you like it or not, know today that the name was hidden from all of you so that there could be a distinction between those worshiping Jehovah and those worshiping their own greed {Malachi 3:18} note that before Malachi revealed this secret that honest hearted individuals will notice the distinction between those practicing pure worship and those deceiving themselves, he first mentioned that worshipers of the true God during the end time will be discussing with their neighbours on how to distinguish pure worship {Malachi 3:16} of course everyone today knew very well that the one and only group going to meet their neighbours one on one to discuss about pure worship of the true God are ~

JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES! smiley

Maximus69: Go through the scriptures and point to a place where Jesus whether physical or spiritual refer to his followers as "Christians"

Achorladey: grin grin grin grin grin go through the scripture and point to a place whether physical or spiritual that Jesus told Rutherford to refer his followers as JEHOVAH'S WITNESS grin grin grin grin

Yet Peter and many others including you were told to SUFFER as CHRISTIAN which is the name you called CURSED and borrowed. That account was written by Peter under the influence of ogogoro I guess shocked shocked shocked Jesus didn't tell me no no that name is borrowed and cursed grin grin grin


In the final analysis you cannot see Rutherford Chapter 19 verse 31 even Rutherford chapter 0.00000001 verse 0.00000000000001 where it is said by divine Providence Jesus change name of his followers


Then you don't shocked shocked shocked shocked for the below abi?

Acts 11:26 After he found him, he brought him to Antioch. So for a whole year they assembled with them in the congregation and taught quite a crowd, and it was first in Antioch that the disciples were by divine providence called Christians..........NWT
You see am shocked shocked shocked


Jehovah gave them BORROWED name by DIVINE Providence, Jehovah gave them cursed name by divine Providence

but no where it is written in the scripture that Jehovah changed the cursed name by divine Providence to JEHOVAH'S WITNESS in 1931.

No where in the scripture that the borrowed name was changed by divine Providence to JEHOVAH'S WITNESS in 1931

After changing to cursed and borrowed name in 1931 you still refer yourself as TRUE CHRISTIANS, the only TRUE CHRISTIANS grin grin grin grin cheesy

Yet it is cursed and borrowed grin grin grin grin

This for you to think again, why do you call other Christian denominations FALSE CHRISTIAN?

Since it is borrowed and cursed, why attach false to a cursed and borrowed name? grin grin grin

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