₦airaland Forum

isthatso:
Actually Yes!

Let me know when you wake up from your dreams

isthatso:
SS, Sw have more credible actors in the political arena that SE at the moment. Amaechi(SS) is credible, Fashola(SW) is credible, Osinbajo(SW) is credible. Who are the SE candidates? Orji Kalu, Peter Obi, Okorocha, Umahi...these are the people you want to present to Nigerians? I would rather have ElRufai than any of those SE names

Ewedu who need your vote self

Abeg let's restructure

cktheluckyman:
Let me know when you wake up from your dreams

I dont think you understand how voting works...it is the voter who determines whether a candidate is acceptable to him. you are the one being delusional about a SE presidency.....it's not going to happen, if it were going to happen it would have happenned in60 years of Nigerian independence. Nigeria has never elected an ibo man to federal executive power and it is not going to happen any time soon, whatever chance of it happenning has been diminished by the actions of certain Se elements post 2015. . Zik was not elected but a ceremonial president with no executive powers as a result of a power sharing agreement. Ironsi came to power via a coup and was removed in 3 months.

SUiOM:
Igbo is due for presidency

Presidency kee u dia, so no more biaflood, lefulendum or death/nothing slogans abi....Nnama-Era

Dovegrey:
Ewedu who need your vote self

you need our votes because you dont have the numbers, thats how elections work. so keep insulting and be dreaming of SE presidency!

cktheluckyman:
Those guys are too greedy and hypocritical!!! If the SW is contesting what moral right then do they have to tell the North not to contest?

If the SW insists on contesting then the North too should contest

dont mind those greedy, selfish betrayers. Imagine the nerves from these Yoruba clowns

When you hear them shouting 'zoning to south', the ignorant or naive would think they have the interest of the entire south.

I've been saying and continue to say it that power will rather remain in the north than this loquacious, greedy and hypocrite wasted region have it again....bunch of idiots

Amaechi no want make Umahi become President, so that im political relevance no go dwindle. Confusion everywhere.

El-rufai was right when he said people of competence, effectiveness and efficiency should be voted not by zoning. Nigerians be wise!

isthatso:
you need our votes because you dont have the numbers, thats how elections work. so keep insulting and be dreaming of SE presidency!

Just simple question you have started lamenting!!!

The presidency will always rotate between the north and south-west. That's how Nigeria works. They will never let it come to south south or south-east. Their greed for power won't let them zone it those regions....

Arabiandude:
Oga or whatever you are, Obasanjo 8years presidency was under PDP and not APC.

Fashola, Ameachi and APC are talking about APC rotational presidency and it has nothing to do with who has ruled under PDP before.

APC was birthed mostly by the north and SW, the northern block would end in 2023 and it has to be the turn of the SW, under APC.

Hehehehe....after the huge betrayal from you guys to Dr GEJ u still think there won't be a pay back time....u must be day dreaming.... The north will continue to rule us till thy kingdom come

isthatso:
SS, Sw have more credible actors in the political arena that SE at the moment. Amaechi(SS) is credible, Fashola(SW) is credible, Osinbajo(SW) is credible. Who are the SE candidates? Orji Kalu, Peter Obi, Okorocha, Umahi...these are the people you want to present to Nigerians? I would rather have ElRufai than any of those SE names

are you not yolowba again? The hate from your ewedu-filled dumb brain wouldnt allow you see any credible candidate from the SE.

And yes Peter Obi is a far more certified candidate than the 3 clowns you mentioned above. EZI OFIA

South easterners should relinquish their slot of presidency to Amaechi we have more chances of getting it closer to SE if we do.

cktheluckyman:
You are dreaming.Turn of the SW indeed.Oya come and take the ticket let's see.That is exactly why another northener will emerge in 2023

The PDP has made it clear they'll hand over the ticket to the North again. Even if the APC wishes to hand over their ticket to the SE, the fear of losing seriously would make them reconsider. How do you give out your ticket to a region where you're not popular. The only governor from the party there is insulted everyday as a supreme court governor. Umahi that just joined, if he contests any position today in Ebonyi under APC, he would lose cos of the hatred and disdain the SE region has for APC, and you expect APC to dish out presidential slot to such a place?

shizzle11:
stop typing rubbish. Was obasanjo the president of nigeria or guinea conakry?

If we are talking equity, the only 2 regions that should have a say are the SE and NE, the SW should GTFO and STFU! Very greedy bunch and mischievous things.
If you want justice and equity, it should go to the SE and if the SE cant have it then let it remain in the north.

Nonsense

Seems you were sleeping when the permutations were being set in 2015 and SW risked everything even while in opposition. It's only you fucktards that suddenly see the same Apc you so much much hate as a solid platform to attain presidency.

Dovegrey:
Ewedu who need your vote self

Ewedu votes trumps all your villages votes by two actually. Five-percenter

oyatz:
But some Southerners say they want Atiku in 2023

They have a choice

tamdun:
https://www.thecable.ng/2023-zoning-should-be-respected-amaechi-backs-fashola

If the Kaduna state governor says competence trumps power-sharing, which to me yes is good, then this should be extended to all positions of Nigeria's public or civil service

Thecableng: “In Nigeria, political offices — especially the presidency — are rotated on the basis of geographical zones, from the time of Olusegun Obasanjo up till the administration of President Muhamadu Buhari who is from Katsina state.”


Rotating the presidency is undemocratic and a clear violation of 1999 constitution of Nigeria. Over the past several years, I have spent time searching Nigerian constitution to locate—a section that calls for rotating the presidency and could not find one.

Anyone who wants Nigeria to remain one country should stop floating this nonsense idea.

And that means if you want to become the president of Nigeria in 2023 organize and take your voters to the polls. The Presidency of Nigeria will be decided at the ballots boxes

My prayer is that the north should not gree...instead they should field someone like Atiku or kwankwaso as APC candidate....I'll be so happy.

Na that year the marriage go scatter

2023 will be interesting,I want to see BMC NORTH VS BMC SOUTH FIGHT EACH OTHER

You are dreaming

ILoveDemMANNA:
The below is only for the wise people on Nairaland...
I got this from my Role model(s) online... [/b]....
Men and women of truth and caliber.


[b]SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now barely 5 months to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one and a half tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary abuse from nonentities . As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu. 

For the first time I agree with something you wrote this is brilliant and indeed from a sound mind well done

You are not insane as other members seem to believe you are..

Ibos need to gather themselves and choose intellectuals to lead them

Unfortunately you guys have only illiterates and traders leading you guys so they lack the mental capacity to understand what you wrote here

My heart prays they can get smart before 2023

Well done

ILoveDemMANNA:
The below is only for the wise people on Nairaland...
I got this from my Role model(s) online... [/b]....
Men and women of truth and caliber.


[b]SOUTH EAST: IS IT NOT TOO LATE?

I have read the recent transmissions by Senator Bukola Saraki directed at my Igbo tribe. I have deliberately kept mum on this as I had earlier resolved to speak less on Igbos as regards the 2019 Elections and 2023 Presidency having said quite a bit. 

However seeing as some of my brethren have swallowed the cheap bait, I will chip this in just to keep the reality before us, at least for posterity sake. Truth is bitter but it's still the best medicine. 

My people say; 'He who does not remember where the rain started beating him, will not remember where it stopped'. 

REWIND TO 2014. 
A new National Party was being conceived. Political Parties, political players and Regions were being wooed to the new alliance. 

'We' Igbos (read South East) vehemently refused to touch it even with a long pole. We packaged, sold to ourselves and bought the baseless propaganda that it was an Islamic alliance that would birth an "Islamic" and "Hausa" Party. Simply because those our brethren heavily invested in the PDP at the time were afraid of losing their vested selfish interests.
Till today I'm still trying to fathom the basis for that wicked and twisted deceit especially as many of those Igbo elites who sold that dummy have since ported to the same APC.

We failed to even identify with that new Alliance. Hence the Party, APC was birthed without any remarkable input from us or presence. The few amongst us who aligned were called all kinds of names and abused to high heavens by us even when they were proven right afterall.

Thus the few Igbos who were part of it were at best fringe players as they didn't have the required clout to make serious demands and do the necessary political wheeling and dealing required in Politics to strike the hard bargains since politics is all about interests and numbers. They were even suspect, so much so that it was only their personal political sagacity that gave them whatever they got.

That Party went on to win the Presidential Election which in truth, most of us never believed it could or would, because of our half baked permutations and poor understanding of Nigerian politics. But it did. 

Curiously we turned up at the fore front of telling this same Party how it should share it's 'spoils of war'. We became hypocritical moral champions with an over bloated sense of entitlement. Who does that, in all political reality and practicality? But we did, even while vehemently and vociferously still refusing to shift our position, style and rhethoric.

We dug in. Supported every bad thing and person against the Party, the elected President and the Administration while denying any and every good done to and for our Region.

Fast forward to where we are today. Almost four years after the 2015 misadventure, we have stayed put at 2015, refusing to move forward, refusing to shift grounds, refusing to play pragmatic politics, telling ourselves the same lies we cooked and bought in 2015 and some more. 

Now barely 5 months to another election, we have started again saying "APC cannot give Presidency to Igbos in 2023". "Buhari cannot hand over to an Igbo man because Buhari hates Igbos". "APC is deceiving you", bla bla bla.

Of course. We will believe Saraki, who has only but a fanthom dream of becoming President and whose only known record is selfishness but we can't believe Buhari who's already President and who has a record of voluntarily picking two great Igbo sons as running mates in the past? Chukwu aju.

It is interesting and vital to note here that the PDP which many of us still proudly support and adore was in power for 16 solid years and in those years there were 4 Presidential Inaugurations and on none of those was an Igbo man found worthy by the PDP of even Vice Presidency and we are still bold to say it is the APC that has not even finished one and a half tenure that doesn't want to give power to Igbos. Odi nma. 

NOW; Seriously, let's be sincere. As things stand today politically, why would the APC even hand power to us Igbos in 2023? 
On what grounds? 
On what records?
On what politics?
Is power given to anyone? 
Is it an appeasement or a gift? 

The APC is a political party. The main focus of a political Party is to hold power and keep it to enable it deliver on its agenda. So if the APC reads that the SE does not want the Presidency or does not have the capacity to help them win and keep power, they will stick with the regions that can and work with individuals who are interested. 

Make no mistake, I have always said, I do not blame us Igbos for the decision majority of us took in 2015. It's our right. But continuing to pretend that it was other regions, Buhari or the APC that made us do what we did then or remain where we are today is purely self deceit and I refuse to play that ostrich game. 

As far back as 2014, I and many others made that argument that Igbo Presidency was very feasible in 2023, ONLY under under the APC, ONLY IF we did a couple of things right politically. I personally continued to speak loudly on that even after the 2015 elections until when I realized that we were not ready to play the politics that was required and now I dare say it may be too late. Or is it not? Time will tell.

For now, we can continue to tell ourselves that we cannot hold the Presidency of Nigeria. I heard and read many of our brethren go from PDP to Biafra/seccesion (read IPOB) to Referendum to "Igbos do not need Presidency but Restructuring" etc forgetting that all that didn't lie squarely with us alone. We think other regions are not reading our body language?

I really don't care what Saraki writes or says because they've all come to realize that it's very easy to play us like a flute. So like Saraki, like Fani Kayode, like Fayose, like Atiku, even Jonah Jang of all people, they keep playing us.

I've learnt not to bother myself anymore to avoid unnecessary abuse from nonentities . As some of us have said, it's good governance we want, even if only one village will be producing the Presidents. So be it.

Ka Chineke mezie okwu. 

Stop quoting yasef o BMC minion

EdoFirstBorn:
For the first time I agree with something you wrote this is brilliant and indeed from a sound mind well done

You are not insane as other members seem to believe you are..

Ibos need to gather themselves and choose intellectuals to lead them

Unfortunately you guys have only illiterates and traders leading you guys so they lack the mental capacity to understand what you wrote here

My heart prays they can get smart before 2023

Well done

First of we are IGBOS not ibos
Second if are from edo like u claim you would know that igbos are Republican and don't do centralised leadership nonsense like others
We don't need leaders when we have an ideology of fairness and equality
Now run along

LZAA:
First of we are IGBOS not ibos
Second if are from edo like u claim you would know that igbos are Republican and don't do centralised leadership nonsense like others
We don't need leaders when we have an ideology of fairness and equality
Now run along

How will my state of origin give me further insights into your tribe ?

You talk like you are uneducated or a tout

Don't mess with me kiddo

You are ibo

EdoFirstBorn:
How will my state of origin give me further insights into your tribe ?

You talk like you are uneducated or a tout

Don't mess with me kiddo

You are ibo

All u BMC zombies are the same

The 2023 elections will.be the most keenly contested in d History of Nigeria.