Elvictor:


you have forgotten that Opobo is a home for Igbos too because of Jaja, don't go about saying this nonsense that Opobo is Igboland before you people will start crying and wailing that SS minorities hate you people when they refuse to sell lands to you guys.

You know I said earlier that I don't want to generate any bad blood through argument. Let's just rest and leave it.

NB:if you say that opobo is home to igbo too because of Jaja.
That means we have indigenous igbos there

Elvictor:


but you have never been to Opobo?

Yes
But I have met its people

bigfish3k:

You know I said earlier that I don't want to generate any bad blood through argument. Let's just rest and leave it.

NB:if you say that opobo is home to igbo too because of Jaja.
That means we have indigenous igbos there

ofcourse, Jaja lineage exist there.

PHijo:

Ibani

There are indigenous igbos in majority in opobo

bigfish3k:
Yes But I have met its people

visit Opobo and see Bonny also, you will settle all your questions.

Elvictor:


ofcourse, Jaja lineage exist there.

Thank you
That is just what I want to know because the indigenous igbos there have access to the sea

Elvictor:


visit Opobo and see Bonny also, you will settle all your questions.

Jajas root is igboland from Igboland to bonny Island and from there to Opobo

bigfish3k:

Thank you
That is just what I want to know because the indigenous igbos there have access to the sea

because Igbo live in Lagos makes it Igboland?

bigfish3k:

There are indigenous igbos in majority in opobo

There are no indigenous Igbos in Opobo. There are only Igbo citizens of Nigeria living across the length and breathe of Nigeria.

That Azikiwe and Ojukwu spent time in Zungeru doesn't make Zungeru Igboland.

This the reason Northerners don't waste time drawing their daggers against you.

Elvictor:


you see your life?
from Imo he came to Bonny, he was welcomed and honoured then he moved to the river part which is now named after him.
every Igbos know that Opobo isn't their land but is named after their son because of his dexterity in business.

How do people own lands

Is it not either by being the first to inhabit it or by conquest.
Jajas has satisfied those conditions

bigfish3k:

Thank you
That is just what I want to know because the indigenous igbos there have access to the sea

there is nothing like indigenous, they are all immigrants, and mind you Jaja married a Bonny woman which means he created the settlements with mainly Okrika people.
Okrika people gave women hereditary rite which means a woman is equal to man in family, the naming of the community after Jaja does not mean that he is the one who founded the village and does not remove the village from being Okrika people land.

bigfish3k:

How do people own lands

Is it not either by being the first to inhabit it or by conquest.
Jajas has satisfied those conditions

Jaja satisfied none of that, he neither conquer or was he the first to inhabit Opobo.

PHijo:


There are no indigenous Igbos in Opobo. There are only Igbo citizens of Nigeria living across the length and breathe of Nigeria.

That Azikiwe and Ojukwu spent time in Zungeru doesn't make Zungeru Igboland.

This the reason Northerners don't waste time drawing their daggers against you.

bro lets educate him, Igbos are still our friends. a lot of them dont know the relationship between us started way back before British invade Nigeria

Elvictor:


Jaja satisfied none of that, he neither conquer or was he the first to inhabit Opobo.

if he wasn't the first
So who did he displace to take charge

Maduawuchukwu:


Fighting Injustice by killing Ijaws and Hausas in Lagos? What did they do that they deserved to be killed? You talk like a slave.

The real slave is the man who never gets a sit at the table but sings the praises of his master for collecting the crumbs that fall off the table. We kbnow who those people are. They are the ones whose party got the most votes but settled for ceremonial presidency and handed the prime minister to balewa. They are the ones who played second fiddle to Shagari, they are the ones who shout Biafra today and Atikulate tommorow. We know them, they are the ones who will never see the presidency...they are the real slaves!!!

PHijo:


There are no indigenous Igbos in Opobo. There are only Igbo citizens of Nigeria living across the length and breathe of Nigeria.

That Azikiwe and Ojukwu spent time in Zungeru doesn't make Zungeru Igboland.

This the reason Northerners don't waste time drawing their daggers against you.

How can you say there are no indigenous Igbos when it's recognized that Jaja founded opobo kingdom.
Only people without academic superior argument will be daggers drawn when they can't win you.
Given the norths poor academic ability they will always be at daggers drawn with anybody

bigfish3k:
if he wasn't the first So who did he displace to take charge

he neither displace anybody, Jaja was simply honoured by Bonny people.

Elvictor:


there is nothing like indigenous, they are all immigrants, and mind you Jaja married a Bonny woman which means he created the settlements with mainly Okrika people.
Okrika people gave women hereditary rite which means a woman is equal to man in family, the naming of the community after Jaja does not mean that he is the one who founded the village and does not remove the village from being Okrika people land.

Its recognized that Jaja founded opobo
Womens rights are respected but cannot override the man.
You can't call them settlers because they didn't displace anybody to inhabit the land.

Elvictor:


bro lets educate him, Igbos are still our friends. a lot of them dont know the relationship between us started way back before British invade Nigeria

We will always be friends.
The war dealt a lot of blow to the igbos and they lost their voice and lands and even some igbos are rejecting being called igbos

bigfish3k:

Its recognized that Jaja founded opobo
Womens rights are respected but cannot override the man.
You can't call them settlers because they didn't displace anybody to inhabit the land.

you don't understand Okrika people culture, a woman in Okrika is recognize as head of family if you don't know

Elvictor:


he neither displace anybody, Jaja was simply honoured by Bonny people.

Is it the bonny people that gave him the land or he just left on his own after their quarrels to occupy and conquer the unoccupied land space

Opobo people have no other home than opobo land and the are indigenes as recognized by the UN after the second war. No more conquest of lands. Status quo should be maintained.

bigfish3k:

Its recognized that Jaja founded opobo
Womens rights are respected but cannot override the man.
You can't call them settlers because they didn't displace anybody to inhabit the land.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opobo

Jubo isn't the originator of Opobo but he named the kingdom and gave it a widespread fame, read the link.

Elvictor:

you don't understand Okrika people culture, a woman in Okrika is recognize as head of family if you don't know

That law should only happen if the marriage is between two okrika people and not when an okrika woman marries a different tribe that don't agree with such

bigfish3k:

Is it the bonny people that gave him the land or he just left on his own after their quarrels to occupy and conquer the unoccupied land space

Opobo people have no other home than opobo land and the are indigenes as recognized by the UN after the second war. No more conquest of lands. Status quo should be maintained.

do you know Jaja was indoctrinated into the Ibani tribe? Jaja was seen as Okrika man.
Jaja didn't conquer anybody but he was accepted and ordained as a family member, he rose in ranks because of who he is.

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bigfish3k:

That law should only happen if the marriage is between two okrika people and not when an okrika woman marries a different tribe that don't agree with such

who told you Jaja married her as Igboman?

Amaechi every time I see him looks like a clown

Elvictor:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opobo

Jubo isn't the originator of Opobo but he named the kingdom and gave it a widespread fame, read the link.

Originator means somebody that creates or found something.
From your link it is stated that Jaja founded opobo

bigfish3k:

Originator means somebody that creates or found something.
From your link it is stated that Jaja founded opobo

read without bias, there were kingdoms before Jaja kingship.
Jaja simply fused them together for economic reasons best known to them, that doesn't mean the entire kingdoms that made Opobo are created or existed because Jaja or Jubo.

Elvictor:


who told you Jaja married her as Igboman?

But is Jaja not an Igbo man whose descendants speak igbo till date?

Elvictor:


do you know Jaja was indoctrinated into the Ibani tribe? Jaja was seen as Okrika man.
Jaja didn't conquer anybody but he was accepted and ordained as a family member, he rose in ranks because of who he is.

I know but that doesn't remove the igboness in him.
His descendants speak igbo till date and bear igbo names

bigfish3k:

I know but that doesn't remove the igboness in him.
His descendants speak igbo till date and bear igbo names

read it again you will discover that Jaja simply named the city state after a king that reigned before him as tribute.