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Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by DappaD: 9:28pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
Emusan: Yeah the same way the angels also exist in the form of God. Check Psalm 104:4 against John 4:24
Forget the word that is rendered as “nature” and focus more on the word θείας which translates to “divine” at 2Peter 1:4 The Strong’s Greek for θείας (theíos) means (an adjective, derived from 2316 /theós, "God" ) – divine, manifesting the characteristics of God's nature. So the Christians at 2Peter 1:4 manifest characteristics of God’s nature according to the above meaning. The question is do they also become God? I need a simple and direct answer. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Peacefullove: 10:50pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
livingchrist: Did the verse mention sin. ? Christ partook flesh and blood , Full flesh and blood like Adams Children. Simple. Your sense didn't see that not only Jesus partook, but Adams Children too . When u partook of something, U are fully in possession of it. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Nobody: 11:02pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
livingchrist:even angels present them selves as God EXODUS 3:2 Moses And The Burning Bush There the angel of the LORD appeared to him in flames of fire from within a bush. Moses saw that though the bush was on fire it did not burn up (Exodus 3: 2). Exodus 3:6 "I am the God of your father, the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob." And Moses hid his face, for he was afraid to look at God. The angel of the LORD also said to her, "I will so greatly multiply your offspring that they cannot be counted for multitude" (Genesis 16:10). The angel said He Himself will multiply. I thought it was only God that does all this? Genesis 22:12 He said, "Do not lay your hand on the boy or do anything to him; for now I know that you fear God, since you have not withheld your son, your only son, from me" Genesis 22:15 The angel of the LORD called to Abraham a second time from heaven. They are so many of them, where the angel Says and talks like God even takes glory as God.. I hope I have finally cleared you. Oya go and sin no more. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Nobody: 11:09pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
Henrymorre: Before I confuse you more livingchrist let me share Bible verses too where the angel of the Lord and God distinguished themselves too, just to prove, they are angels from The Lord but talk like the Lord. 2 Samuel 24:16 When the angel stretched out his hand to destroy Jerusalem, the LORD was grieved because of the calamity and said to the angel who was afflicting the people, "Enough! Withdraw your hand." The angel of the LORD was then at the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite Zechariah 1:11-13 Then they spoke to the angel of the LORD who was standing among the myrtle trees, "We have patrolled the earth, and lo, the whole earth remains at peace." Then the angel of the LORD said, "O LORD of hosts, how long will you withhold mercy from Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, with which you have been angry these seventy years?" Then the LORD replied with gracious and comforting words to the angel who talked with Me Now go and sin and share fake new no more.. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Nobody: 11:11pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
Emusan:John 20 vs 17 that should ease you up a bit. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Peacefullove: 11:12pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
DappaD: Beautiful. 2 Likes |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Peacefullove: 11:23pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
Emusan: 2,Pet 1:4 partook of God's nature . Means they Have that very nature ! Before you rant , Hebrews 2:14 should come handy " Therefore because the children are partakers of flesh and blood , he also himself in like manner hath been partaker of the same " Children of Adam partook of flesh and blood, Did they possess/have flesh and blood ? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Peacefullove: 11:24pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
Henrymorre: Gbam 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Peacefullove: 11:26pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
Emusan: @Red, don't be an idiot , when Jesus share human nature, Did he exist in the very nature of humans or not ? Dey use brain now To share is to exist in that very nature. Now tell us if that make them God Almighty? |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Janosky: 11:51pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
Peacefullove: Emusan LIENUS thoroughly exposed. TKO.... |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Janosky: 11:56pm On Jan 17, 2021 |
livingchrist: Because John 17:1-3 , John 20:17 and Revelation 3:12 is missing in your Bible.. Oh I forget, Athanasian Creed na your Bible |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by livingchrist: 1:39am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Peacefullove:In the case of Jesus It was stated that Jesus partook of flesh and blood but in 1 Peter 4 The divine nature means God's character
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Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Peacefullove: 1:42am On Jan 18, 2021 |
livingchrist:Jesus partookin flesh and blood means he fully possess it , likewise Christian's partooking God's nature means they fully possess everything about that nature. Which makes them God Almighty. Since equality is now by nature. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by livingchrist: 1:45am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Henrymorre:that angel of the LORD was God, It was one of the ways he appeared in the old testament. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by livingchrist: 1:47am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Peacefullove:Christians partook in God's nature/character is not the same as christ partook in flesh and blood. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Peacefullove: 1:49am On Jan 18, 2021 |
livingchrist:Listen and listen well, when you partook something u became a possessor of it. The very nature of God was partook/possessed by Christian's. So just accept they are God Almighty too late |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by livingchrist: 2:54am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Peacefullove:what you are trying to do is to twist the message of 1 peter 4 for the sake of blind argument. Partaking in Something does not make you that does it? Going by Jesus became a true human when he partook of flesh and blood and therefore Christians become true God by partaking of the true God's nature right? Do how many true God do you now have? |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Nobody: 3:02am On Jan 18, 2021 |
livingchrist:I also read you passages that showed the angel of the Lord is not God young man. See I have tried to educate you. Read above. I knew you where going to say this so i countered you by quoting two passages where the angel of the Lord is not God. Let me do it again one last time Zechariah 1:11-13 Then they spoke to the angel of the LORD who was standing among the myrtle trees, "We have patrolled the earth, and lo, the whole earth remains at peace." Then the angel of the LORD said, "O LORD of hosts, how long will you withhold mercy from Jerusalem and the cities of Judah, with which you have been angry these seventy years?" Then the LORD replied with gracious and comforting words to the angel who talked with Me I hope now you are satisfied. 2 Samuel 24:16 When the angel stretched out his hand to destroy Jerusalem, the LORD was grieved because of the calamity and said to the angel who was afflicting the people, "Enough! Withdraw your hand." The angel of the LORD was then at the threshing floor of Araunah the Jebusite |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by livingchrist: 3:08am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Henrymorre:I am referring to those verses you quoted earlier. God sometimes appear in the old testament and he was often referred to as the angel of the Lord. No angel can speak with their own authority but the angel of the Lord in those verse speak with his own authority as yahweh himself. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Nobody: 3:17am On Jan 18, 2021 |
livingchrist:I'm done with you. That's why you people lie to People. I just backed up this argument with a passage from the Bible, yet you are still saying what is not even in the Bible. Your sin is too much. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Peacefullove: 8:55am On Jan 18, 2021 |
livingchrist: Exactly plenty God's ... Since you decide to be stupid by using nature to make people God Almighty . |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by livingchrist: 10:12am On Jan 18, 2021 |
Peacefullove:you are just like an unreasonable animal. It was you who said so not me. You said Jesus partook in flesh and blood make him human and so humans partaking in God's nature make them God also. Go back and review your dumb post and be ashamed of yourself, if you have any. 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Peacefullove: 11:29am On Jan 18, 2021 |
livingchrist: because brain is paining you . Get the point : equality is not judged by nature. If so President Buhari and road side mechanic would have been the same. You idiots are saying because Jesus have same nature with God it means they are equal , that's idiotic thinking, just Christian's having God's nature doesn't make them equal with God, so also Jesus is not equal with God. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by livingchrist: 1:36pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
Peacefullove:you just reveal how stupid you are! The difference between Buhari and the road side mechanic is just position nothing else. They are all equally human being, Since we all same human being then the statement that buhari is the only true human would be wrong. How can you call Jehovah the only true God if there are other true gods too? Idiot 1 Like |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Emusan(m): 2:07pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
DappaD: I read Psalm 104:4 but I didn't see where it says Angels are created in the FORM of God. Spirit is just opposite of physical Are you saying ALL PHYSICAL THINGS have the same NATURE? [color,=red]Forget the word that is rendered as “nature”[/color] and focus more on the word θείας which translates to “divine” at 2Peter 1:4 The funny thing is to tell me to FORGET a critical word in the scripture just because you want to continue to defend your fraudulent doctrines. @2nd color.... It's good as you yourself know that they ONLY MANIFEST characteristics of God's nature nature not that THEY EXIST in the FORM of God The Greek and Hebrew words use mainly to denote the actual nature God exists are translated as FORM and that was the same word USED in Phil 2 :6 for Jesus. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Peacefullove: 2:45pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
livingchrist: Equal human being because they all have the same human nature. So postion is the real determinant not nature. Nature places everyone on equal level , even Jesus while on Earth will be the same as Peter if Nature was used. So only idiots use nature to categorize or class equality Christian's sharing divine nature are the same as God by nature. So it's wrong to use nature. Position is the real determinant , and no one come close to the Only true God, the God of Jesus Christ. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by livingchrist: 3:03pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
Peacefullove:idiot @ bolded If true then Jehovah is not the only true God, then Jesus was lying that Jehovah is the only true God. fool so position determines if you are a real human or not? Dundee, so Buhari is a more real human than you? Fake human Clown |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Peacefullove: 3:04pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
livingchrist: Nature place Jesus and Peter on the same level during his ministry , You are an idiot to rate them as equals because they share same human nature. Position always is the key . God of Jesus Christ is Bigger than Jesus. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by livingchrist: 3:11pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
Peacefullove:Idiot so there are different ranks of God? Clown so Jehovah is not the only true God, eeehee. Fool So position determines a real human or a fake human? Clown |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by Peacefullove: 3:25pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
livingchrist:E pain am |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by DappaD: 7:48pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
Peacefullove: Haha. The guy has become very emotional now with all the insults he’s throwing and has also taken in the footsteps of his uncle Emusan. |
Re: Jesus Is Not God Neither Are There Any Trinity In One by DappaD: 7:59pm On Jan 18, 2021 |
Emusan: Did you read John 4:24 as well and see that both God and his angels exist as spirits? Because that’s what “form” actually means according to Merriam-Webster i.e. to exist as. So did the angels in Psalm 104:4 who exist in the same nature as God also become God?
Smart guy. Later you’ll say JWs twist scriptures yet here you are! LOL. Again, read and meditate on the words below: DappaD: When it comes to Colossians 2:9 that one you dey nah, you’ll be ready to misconstrue but now 2Peter 1:4 has got you confused. I know you’re at crossroads now but you must think deeply about your next reply without displaying ignorance in the process. |
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