₦airaland Forum

BeautifulMind2:
Fact from the authority, not from a local boy that know nothing about his locality

Lagos is the port and market, you do everything through Lagos and for Lagos. Can you buy or consume the containers in that tiny SE?, do you have the population or the purchasing power?, stop joking.

BeautifulMind2:
You are swimming in ignorance you forgot that Onitsha including Aba feed many markets in north, Port Harcourt buy their goods from Onitsha and Aba, you are only harming yourself

You forget that the hide & skin you use in making those Aba shoes is a supply from the North?, and 98% of agricultural goods you resell in those markets comes from the North. If the trucks coming from Kano alone shut you out, you're in trouble.

BeautifulMind2:
You be dumbo, common sense is far from you, you forgot that Anambra is bigger than Lagos. Anambra is third largest economy in Nigeria based on non oil economy Kano is below Anambra state, Anambra host 48 standard markets

This was Nominal GDP for which year?. I could only see Anambra, not Onitsha. Anambra has 21 LG and Onitsha is just a town in one of the LG. You were beating chest about Onitsha here, remember?

coputa:
what commercial center do Igbos want to build in the east aside Onitsha and Nnewi.
All Igbos cannot be at home, they must go outside to hustle,even Jesus Christ left his place of birth before he started performing miracles .
I don't think there's any commercial center in the country that is bigger than Onitsha and Nnewi except Lagos due to its functional seaports.

This is 2024 already, you guys should stop all this dirty beer parlor gossips. Do SE has any commercial or trade volume close to Kano or PH?, does Kano have a seaport?.. By first week of January, y'all would flee SE back to where you sweat it out, while SE becomes deserted. I haven't seen any nation or tribe succeed this way.

Mentioning Aba or Onitsha is a big insult on yourselves.

BeautifulMind2:
PressMyButton ignorant mind travel and see not to seat in your mud enclave and posting what you don't know about

This is a dustbin article. Onitsha is no where close to Kano ar a commercial center much less being the commercial nerve center of Nigeria. Onitsha is just a small town like Oshodi, the commercial activities in both places are almost alike. From the article, it affirms that Onitsha is only a distribution center, not a production center, Onitsha is just a place for buying and selling commodity goods just like an average market. Read the screenshot you posted very well.

Iceberg3:
If you have any reasoning at all,you won't compare Onitsha with a whole Kano.
Kano and Lagos are the nerve centers of the north and west and everyone knows,even my dog too,they know the patronage these place get from the federal government as against other places.

That's why i insist that igbos arguing do not understand the meaning of commercial nerve center or a cosmopolitan city, otherwise they won't be mentioning Aba or Onitsha. And there's nothing like patronage from the FG for Lagos or Kano or PH, every states receives its own share of allocations from the center.

BeautifulMind2:
Waiting person no go hear from Jealous Yoruba minds on Nairaland, na today I hear say Onitsha isn't a commercial nerve center Chai una go kill person here you are empty

Read from UN habitat about Onitsha the highlighted,

This is a dustbin article. Onitsha is no where close to Kano as a commercial center much less being the commercial center of Nigeria. Onitsha is just a small town like Oshodi, the commercial activities in both places are almost alike.

jogojogo:
You are full of excuses because your creativity ends in fake products
The lamentations yiu pour here us akin to a boy accusing his paremt of nir sending him to School is the reason he is poor. The kind of noise you make, it appears you don't even need Tinubu or any body to drive development...very shameful excuses....is the reason you are backward is because you don't have a Port Harcourt or Delta or Kano. You even have comprehension challenge
I don't what River was dredged to have Kano more developed than your osu land
You are creative, yet yiu want to be spoonfed

You can imagine their level of delusion. Kano does not cry over a sea or river port yet the volume of trade in Kano is massive, none in SE can come close to Kano.

engrchykae:
same way Yorubas make room for foreign firms like pz etc to come and produce and sell to Nigerians.
Now that foreign firms are leaving the country,how market?
Igbos are more than capable to run a production driven economy,don't use Anambra as a yardstick as if Aba is not in igboland .
Aba shoes are exported to Cameroon,
Is there anything Southwest produce that is exported outside Nigeria?
We are very complete in igboland, Anambra maybe marketers but Aba are producers.
We have gone beyond media manipulations where people are socially engineered into self doubt

What is Aba producing?, fake wine, milk, drugs?. Thank your stars a man like Putin is not the President, he would have nuked the whole state.

BeautifulMind2:
Business friendly state in Nigeria
Anambra surpassed all the states in Southwest

Dude, try and understand English, i'm not talking about individual state rather SE in general. There's no melting pot, no commercial nerve center.

BeautifulMind2:
you are very si.ll.y you seat in your backward state and think others are stagnant, today Anambra and Imo are top 5 on GDP these are states that faced brutal war, Anu come to Onitsha, Nnewi and Abia to see high concentration of indigenous industries, useless guys before the arguments was Southeast wasn't developed now you guys are changing the narrative

cut the crap about indigenous companies, how much are they contributing to GDP?, can they compete?, they are mushrooms. 3 states out of 5 states are among the poorest. Until you open up SE and stay back to make it work, you just playing.

Ofodirinwa:
The grass is always greener. You want Lagos, but you don't want makoko. Igboland has the most even distribution of development nearly anywhere in the world. No where is Lagos, but nowhere to Makoko, and all of the villages are steadily climbing with each other. We have the best region in Nigeria specifically because of the way we do things, and there's no point in switching because...idk, you still haven't named the benefit of being any other way.

Also, even if we had New York in the east, people will still travel out. Nothing will change that. It's not as if we're specifically going to places to be more comfortable. Many are going to worst places than where they left because it's our nature to reach a certain age and travel out and has been so for hundreds of years.

You don't want anyone to wake you up from your dream. I can tell you there are many communities in SE looking like 1920 incarnate. Soludo visited one of those communities recently.

Nigercity:
Oga shut the Bleep up
Lagos is owing in trillions

Now tell me
What's the meaning of cosmopolitan let's start from there?
Abeokuta Akure and ado Ekiti
Can't even lace the shoes of Nnewi In being cosmopolitan!

Show me one financial institution in the world that won't gladly give loan to Lagos, simply put, Lagos has huge revenue power to draw finances, Abia is at the bottom of the chain.

nedu666:
Your region did not witness a single bomb yet Ibadan, ogun, ekiti, osun refuse to move forward. All looking like war zones. No road, no water, no health care, no jobs.

People died more from starvation. I can't recollect anywhere that was bombed to the ground in the SE.

Nigercity:
Oga shut the Bleep up
First what did you mean by cosmopolitan city
Because the last I checked onistha has almost joined with Owerri, in less than 50 years from now the would be referred as one city!
Let's come to ABA
There are alot of foreigners especially Cameroonians, people from Niger, and other Africa countries leaving in ABA!
So your point exactly?

What is Aba?, you guys should stop clowning. Otti is about to borrow 400billion to finance the budget, projected revenue is a mere 160billion for a year. Pls, stop clowning.

nedu666:
You are just blowing useless grammar. Which knowledge transfer and indigenous advancement is taking place in ogun. Is it the same ogun where agbara and ota industrial estate have bad roads, the same places that all factories have heavy generators for production when numerous gas issues come up. It's obvious you have not been to ogun state

Whether there are bad roads or not, afterall there are bad roads in Lagos, Abuja. Ogun state as big as two southeast states and has been pretty much investor-friendly. You can only begin to pick up the pieces when you open up rather than being clannish.

Abagworo:
Aba is a very cosmopolitan city and so is Owerri, Umuahia, Onitsha, Abakaliki and Awka cause I guess the OP means cities developed with little government assistance so I didn't include Enugu and Port Harcourt.

With due respect, i have been to the SE and there's nowhere near a cosmopolitan city..none.

Bulldozer90:
You have to know what a city means before talking about a cosmopolitan one.

For your envious ronu mind Igbos should replicate PH because it's an Hausa or ronu city abi?

PH is Igboland, no need replicating it, but it is very unproductive and oil reliant under Nigerian control just like Lagos which benefits from infrastructure monopoly and structural privileges yet has a GDP less than half of Tel Aviv, despite Tel Aviv having less than 5% of Lagos population.

Igboland is the most urbanized ethnic homeland in Nigeria and perhaps Africa.

Nnewi, Onitsha and Aba have taught you what we can do in Biafra. Until you show me any other prominent city which is neither an oil hub or capital city, you will win the bragging right.

PH is igboland?, i thought you guys have stopped these dirty talks.

BeautifulMind2:
Ignorance is a big disease in west, Anambra alone have 48 standard markets, host many indigenous industries, same with Abia, watch this

Dude, i'm not the type you dump a 30secs Youtube videos to know what's going on in the southeast. There's nothing going on there. How many local companies do you have?, there are more hotels in southeast than there are factories. Can those few indigenous products compete?, how far do they go beyond the SE?. You need to emphasize more on a commercial city for the entire southeast than glorifying local villages.

chopnaira:
That's no excuse. You should look up to Germany.

Countries that have experienced far worse have risen above the ruins, not sulking and remain stagnated on the past. Even before the war, igbos have never really stayed back home much less build a nerve centre. Remember, they were scattered across region taking up indigenous slots. There's never been a conscious effort to build their home.

nedu666:
Look at this joker. More than 95% of the factories in ogun belong to Chinese, lebanese and Indians. They employ thousands on low wages and repatriate billions of dollars back to their country. What is the difference between what they are doing and lgbos are doing all over Nigeria

That's what being cosmopolitan is all about, opening up to diversity and far from being a cluster of village clans. This ain't 1920, you need knowlege transfer and indigenous advancement in the 21st century and that's why Ogun state is the emerging economy right next to Lagos. Every advanced and emerging economies understand this facts and that's why you flood over there, imagine them shutting their doors at your face if they were as closed minded as you are.

Bulldozer90:
You have to know what a city means before talking about a cosmopolitan one.

For your envious ronu mind Igbos should replicate PH because it's an Hausa or ronu city abi?

PH is Igboland, no need replicating it, but it is very unproductive and oil reliant under Nigerian control just like Lagos which benefits from infrastructure monopoly and structural privileges yet has a GDP less than half of Tel Aviv, despite Tel Aviv having less than 5% of Lagos population.

Igboland is the most urbanized ethnic homeland in Nigeria and perhaps Africa.

Nnewi, Onitsha and Aba have taught you what we can do in Biafra. Until you show me any other prominent city which is neither an oil hub or capital city, you will win the bragging right.

I like the fact that y'all go back home this December but almost 20million or more cannot just dump the region and go hustle elswhere, that's a crazy number. Jews are like 12million and about 9million are back home resident in Isreal

Quintessence44:
But if they build proper cities and live in them, there would be no more need to hate and blame Nigeria for everything, and they need to be able to do that to feel alive.

They don't look like they can build anything together, i haven't seen any economic initiative or reforms they nutured, aside celebrating Biafra day or Yam festival together.

gidgiddy:
People like this make laugh, they know nothing about the South East.

The South East are the only people who built urban areas without the area having to be capital of anywhere

PH has been capital of oil rich Rivers State for over 50 years

Lagos was capital of Nigeria for almost 80 years

Kaduna was capital of Northern Nigeria and has been of Kaduna for over 50 years


However, Onitsha, Nnewi and Aba were never capital of anywhere

So unless you can show us where in your Region you managed to develop with your sweat, without it becoming capital, and receiving massive government help, dont talk about development with South East

A place does not have to be a capital to become urban. In every states, they are both rural and urban areas. However a few states has cosmopolitan cities, Aba is not, neither Onitsha or Nnewi. Those are pretty much market places with limited services, those ain't commercial cities.

Ttipsy:
A place that was ravaged by war that lasted for about 3yrs

Still striving and becoming developed despite federal government neglect.
Even raking top in most indices above other Nigeria states
Op you are really far from being realistic

This has become stale, this is 50yrs after, a 50year old is now a grandfather. Why y'all still crawling after so long?. The region received all outstanding federal allocations immediately after the war, you weren't owed a kobo, then where did the money go?. The question you should be asking is, why is SE not attractive to foreign investors?, why is it lacking the pull-factor to attract regional neighbours within the country?. Igbos are still on survival mode 50years after, that's too awful.

Ireportlive:
Well, there must be an effort from the Governor's to atleast have a hub in Onitscha or Imo state

When more than half the population are fleeing home, how would the hub be self sustaining?. The ICC in Anambra gulped a lot of money but it is dying of inactivity.

Bmaster:
op,is like craze dey worry you guys oo.
Igbos this,igbos that.If E sure for you !diots,grant Nnamdi KANU the referendum and the parting away from the sh!t holes hes been clamoring for.
Okay,I know that's too much to ask for,
I meant you guys can't do without igbos,na we dey pay una government the tax wey Dem dey take dey buga
Here is a challenge,call on the government of Tinubu to dredge Niger and make it accessible to ferry goods directly to eastern Nigeria,let us now see how much business iQ you guys have over us

How much business IQ do you have?, 2by2?. Whatever you're doing right now, Ghanaians had done way better before they were sent packing in 1983. This village meetings you having every December ain't gonna help, build a cosmopolitan city like PH, Kano, Lagos and we take you serious. By first week of January, SE goes back to being a ghost town.

Ireportlive:
Unfuntunately... Ibos are marketers of other people's product to other people

They make money from middle man trading

Trading can't drive economy except Production, and Services

Southwest has Sango Ota Industrial estate, Agbara Industrial estate, Lagos Ibadan express way Industries and factory, Oluyole industrial estate ibadan

I'm sorry, in the next 20yrs, southeast would have lost the leverage of economic negotiation. The world has moved from subsistence to tech evolution. if they don't create a cosmpolitan city rather than this kind of village gatherings, nothing is going to change.

chopnaira:
That's the message Anambra 1stson now beautifulmind 2 has been preaching like forever on twitter and Nairaland. I.e. telling them to stay home and build their region.

How can i invest my funds where the people of the region themselves would not put in their money. when i watch them jump on a bus in their numbers, trooping out of their home states, i am never encouraged to consider the region as a place of interest.

Pretty much everybody is back home having a blast, there are lots of fun, catching up with friends and families, different kinds of ceremonies all lined up at this festive period. However thrilling it might feel, it's nothing compared to making your home a home and not a guest house. The prevaling economic, social, territorial and regional realities throws a huge challenge to igbos to build a commercial center in the southeast. Almost 90% of the wealth transfered back home this December comes from outside. The fact remains that wealth is not distributed through crumbs sprinkling but by proper deliberate investments. The crumbs you take back home every year ending is unstainable to the development of the region. Several decades after, Igbos should be aggressive in replicating a Lagos, PH, Delta, or Kano in the southeast to boost sustainability. Would igbos ever challenge themselves to build home and attract investors than rushing down to catch the next bus going to other regions at the begining of a new year.


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