Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 7:31pm On Apr 17, 2011 |
jerseyboy: Post on Buhari for change facebook.
Ibrahim Jahun Any body who has good analytical skills will figure out that Nigeria is at the edge of disintegration. What level of hatred is against the North fron the South. A situation where by the CPC candidate cannot get even 5% of the southern votes while winning about 80% of his nothern ppl is alarming. My advice to the North is to seek autonomy and build our self. Is better we stay for 10 -20yrs with no oil and find a sustainable way for our selves than to be in this type of situation. What have we done to them to deserve this hatred - is it based on religion, ethnicity or what? I am very very discourage with the way they treated us. If GMB was a bad candidate say like Atiku I wont mind. But someone that everybody knows that he can take this nation to the promise land but due to sentiments they turned their back and voted for uncertainty. Sorry friends from the south on this page we love you and he do appreciate your courageous support. My statement doesnt cut accross all but majority fall under this. 9 minutes ago · 1 So Nigeria was not on the edge of divide when Northerners ruled for 38 out of 50 yrs. Also have you thought about the hatred the Northern voters have for southerners. And when southerners vote for the candidate of their choice, how does that translate into hatred? Are you mad because southern voters are tired of how the country is being run by illiterates and have voted for their candidate? And don't assume that everybody thinks Buhari would take us to the promised land. If you believe Buhari can do so, good for you, but don't think everyone shares the same belief as you. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 4:59pm On Apr 17, 2011 |
Sweet T: I mean seriously?? C'mmon! How in the hell did PDP get 1 million votes in Abia and Anambra states? You mean to tell me that an Ibo man will leave his Okrika clothes and fake goods shop to go line up for hours just to vote? Hard for me to believe that, unless an Ibo man he's being compensated for it i don't believe it. And by the way there are not up to 1 million adult age Ibo guys left in all of East combined, they have all relocated to Lagos to sell Okrika clothes and fake goods. INEC c'mmon, let's be real here. You don't have to live in an area to vote there. Many people I know, despite not residing in their home state, still registered there and drove there to vote come election time. So it is plausible that the Ibos in Lagos drove to their home state to vote. Use your brain to think instead of your yansh! |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 3:51pm On Apr 17, 2011 |
Sagamite: @ Princek12
There is really no evidence of his education in alot of his decisions and utterances. E.g. Saying he would build an airport in every state, like if that is the most important thing for most states. Another is refusing to attend a Presidential debate but yet found time to be interviewed by D'Banj. Another was his village man comments to the international press when asked about the crisis in Ivory Coast.
I did not his support his not showing up for the presidential debate. I thought his excuse was frivolous. And he honestly lost points for not showing up. His saying he would build an airport in every state is typical politician rhetoric. Just like Buhari said he would create 5 million jobs without laying any concrete plan to achieve such promise.
I don't think answering or, more accurately, getting assistants to answer selected Facebook questions is strong enough for me. That is just Gimmick. He would have shown his embrace of new ideas by attending the NN24 Presidential debate. Buhari attended and answered more questions, better still, random questions. Reetardeen sat in Aso Rock watching and having Otapiapia.
Attending a NN24 debate is not the same as embracing new technologies, as aspirants have been debating since the beginning of time, although it appears to be fledgling in Nigeria. The world is changing, and the ability for a president to embrace new technologies speaks volume about his character. Even if he got assistants to answer the questions, it shows a good faith effort on his part to communicate and dialogue with Nigerians, both home and abroad. Presumably, his assistants will give him a report or update him on pressing issues discussed in the comment section of his facebook page. While no one is perfect, I like to give credit for someone making at least a good faith effort. Buhari, on the other hand, is the president of old with his authoritarian mentality, as in he is "too big" or unreachable.
3) Most importantly, he supports the deregulation of the power sector and the privatization of PHCN. Buhari, on the other hand, wants reform. How can you reform a PHCN that is fraught with corruption and hemorrhaging money like a woah! Deregulation and privatization presents the best means to provide a sustainable power sector, not subject to the whim of any president.
Strong point!
I would rather have an old face that has shown everything that he has done, soft or hard, was done with the best intentions of the country at heart without a shred of evidence of personal gain, than have a new face that has twatted the progress of the country by acting in his own interest and explicitly or implicitly supporting the criminals that are ruining the country.
Please give me the old face any day!
Electing an ex-military dictator who ruled in the early 80s is inherently inconsistent with the message of change Buhari purports to bring. Ostracizing the youth is all too common in our culture, and electing the same names--Buhari, Atiku, IBJ, IBB--is incompatible with the notions of a civilized and progressive society that we presumably strive to achieve. For example, his mentality of change probably contributed to Goodluck's embracing the idea of privatization of the PHCN; and if solving the power crisis is the only thing he achieves in his four years, then I think Nigerians made the right choice. Inadequate power has restrained--if not crippled--the advancement of our economy.
He campaigned all over the country using public resources without a shred of conscience That does not count at all or even worse counts against him.
Strong point. But Buhari somehow had all the resources to vigorously campaign in the North. He would have spent those resources making a good faith effort to reach out to the Southerners, as his base in the North was pretty much solidified since day one. Buhari probably forgot that he needed more than the North to win his presidency, and the hefty crowds that appeared at his Northern campaigns probably disillusioned him and gave him an inaccurate picture of his campaign. Either way, Southern voters felt abandoned and ignored.
That is an extremely cheap shot. Buhari has no control over his state. The state is even run by Jonathan's PDP. Lets be objective.
Buhari has no control his State, but Buhari has control over his words and actions. He made no effort to condemn those Northerners for violating the constitutional rights of the Nollywood by preventing them from filming. In addition, Buhari made not efforts at stating how we would promote Nollywood, one of the largest film industries in the world, and Nigeria's entertainment industry, the largest in Africa. That is why Nollywood and entertainers vigorously campaigned for Goodluck. Goodluck even attended Nollywood events and tried to help them by his good faith effort of loaning the industry $200m (even though I disagree with the means as to how he tried to help Nollywood). Either way, it shows Goodluck's good faith efforts at recognizing the importance of Nollywood and our entertainment industry to Nigeria. It is now a source of foreign exchange and has provided numerous jobs to many Nigerians, and is a constant source of pride to Nigeria. Buhari has said nothing about helping Nollywood, probably for fear of enraging his Northern alliance. |
Politics › Re: The SE (Igbo) Should Be Commended For Supporting GEJ by Princek12(m): 3:12pm On Apr 17, 2011 |
I salute you President Jonathan. May God give you four fruitful years of service to Nigeria and her people. oyo yo yo yo yo, our man! |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 2:58pm On Apr 17, 2011 |
No more to illiterate presidents and religious bigots. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 2:56pm On Apr 17, 2011 |
passyjango: I will leave it to posterity to judge who the fools are. After all there was a time when pro-slavery parties were supported by the majority in the west. Today no party will win an election on pro-slavery sentiment. I am not expecting any magic, you do not need magic to provide electricity or build the Benin Ore express road. Or are you asking me to build the road with my money while GEJ and his friends help themselves with our collective wealth. It is probably because of people like you that we have irresponsible leaders. passy jango, Apparently in Nigeria you need magic to solve the electricity crisis. It has not been solved, as Nigerians have no stable power. Do you even care whether Nigeria has stable electricity? And if you did care, what did your Buhari candidate propose as to how he would solve the electricity crisis? Do you even know Buhari had any proposal? Probably not. Some higher authority probably instructed you to vote for Buhari, and you just obeyed them just like 99.9% of Buhari supporters did. They cannot state a single, substantive reason as to why they support Buhari. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 2:47pm On Apr 17, 2011 |
JaaizTech: The same is applicable to Pro-GEJ supporters, ask them why they are voting for GEJ, and they suddenly get startled. Really this election was won and lost on sentimental grounds for both sides. this are just some of the reasons why I supported Jonathan: 1)he is educated 2) he has shown that he will embrace new technologies and new ideas, and that he will listen to the people. for example, before he got busy with the campaign, he responded to a couple of my facebook comments about him. I have not been able to reach Buhari. 3) Most importantly, he supports the deregulation of the power sector and the privatization of PHCN. Buhari, on the other hand, wants reform. How can you reform a PHCN that is fraught with corruption and hemorrhaging money like a woah! Deregulation and privatization presents the best means to provide a sustainable power sector, not subject to the whim of any president.4) Jonathan is a new face. Buhari is an ex-military dictator whom I knew growing up. Buhari's coup subverted a democratic president. So why should I vote in a used baggage? 5) Jonathan vigorously campaigned all over the country and has shown that he is more of a national candidate. Buhari only campaigned vigorously in the North and made pit stops in the south. Buhari made no good faith effort to win southern voters. 6) Jonathan supports the entertainment and film industry. Buhari has not spoken how we will support Nollywood and our music industry. His home state would not even allow Nollywood to film movies there because it is inconsistent with the principles of Sharia? Can you imagine that? Now you tell me the reasons why you support Buhari |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 2:29pm On Apr 17, 2011 |
passyjango: Is that still necessary? Nigerians have decided. Will my answer change the result? It is still necessary for me to understand your cause. Because your candidate lost does not mean that your cause should die. You sound like you are among the legions of Buhari supporters who cannot state substantive reasons as to why you support your candidate. There you go dodging the question. Buhari is an old cargo masquerading as change. Nigerians have woken up and will not allow an illiterate rule us again. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 2:22pm On Apr 17, 2011 |
father ab: I no be Rev Father, I get children and I still support Buhari no matter what the final results say or have said. God knows that its not that I'm jobless or homeless that I root for an Anti-corruption crusader as President, But for millions of Nigerians who remain jobless and homeless. No thanks to corruption.
JONATHAN AS HE STANDS TODAY IS CORRUPT. SAMBO WAS A CORRUPT CONTRACTOR TO KADUNA STATE. What are your reasons that support your conclusion that Jonathan is corrupt? |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 2:21pm On Apr 17, 2011 |
passyjango: It is better to cry for just a day than to cry for 4 years full of regret. At least we are not expecting much from his administration, so our hearts cannot be broken by him when he fails. It is your heart that would be broken when your messiah dashes all your hopes in the next four years with fresh excuses. The only thing GEJ can do now is to surprise me by proving me wrong, but I doubt the coconut can do just that. What exactly are the reasons why you support Buhari over GEJ? Please be objective and speak about the issues. Do not base your analysis on sentiments. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 2:15pm On Apr 17, 2011 |
muami: Someone advised that we should be mature in celebrating our victory but how can we when people do not accept defeat? For your information, democracy is about majority rule. The majority of Nigerians have spoken. They have said NO to regional and ethnic bigots They have said NO to a situation where a few persons sit down somewhere and decided who would rule us They have said No to [b]expired, uneducated [/b]and visionless leaders. If you still have a problem with that you can go and hang yourself with the rest of the country move on to the promised land. I concur. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 2:13pm On Apr 17, 2011 |
efisher: GEJ won by every standard. Look at the areas in Nigeria that represent Nigeria and have close to 90% credibility e.g. Abuja and Lagos. Is it not clear that the totality of NIGERIANS want GEJ? Anybody that cannot win Abuja and Lagos has a question mark. Whatever happened in the NW was cancelled out in SS and SE. Yes, he did. The Northerners usually vote based on the direction they receive from their emirs and spiritual leaders. Ask the average Northern voter the reasons as to why he voted for Buhari, and said voter will continue to stammer. Ask said voter the merits of the issues, and you will hear nothing of substance. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 7:22am On Apr 17, 2011 |
By the power bestowed upon me, I hereby declare Goodluck Ebele Jonathan the president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. All haters should jump into the River Niger. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 3:20am On Apr 17, 2011 |
How came there are so many invalid votes in the North? How come the North are registering all these kids? |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 9:24pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
Come to think about it, a Jonathan win would be good for the country. If Jonathan wins, he will only serve for one term, meaning there will be no incumbent as the candidate in four years. That way, the candidates can be more evenly balanced. That would be a real election because we all know that incumbents who run usually have access to the oil money and will bribe their way to victory. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 9:21pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
enyojo: BY DAPO AKINREFON PRESIDENTIAL candidate of the National Conscience Party, NCP, Bashorun Dele Momodu Saturday lost elections at his Ward 10 unit 24 at Wasimi Community High School where he cast his vote. The results show that the PDP polled 177 votes, CPC 65, ACN 41 and NCP 1 vote. www.vanguardngr.com/2011/04/dele-momodu-loses-at-polling-unit/ very embarrassing. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 8:28pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
EPOMA: [b][/b]
how did they know he voted Buhari when you vote secretly except it was during the vote count and it doesn't surprise me . maybe he was running his mouth. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 7:49pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
fxtopedia: We had VOTED sir!!!!!! Thank you |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 7:26pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
Does Buhari even have a facebook page? At least GEJ does have a facebook page. Not that having a facebook page is material to being a good president, but it does indicate that GEJ is willing to embrace new ideas and technologies, which is reflecting in his embracing privatization. Buhari is old stock and used meat. He would not embrace any new ideas, especially anything deemed western and anti-Islam. Vote for GEJ. Vote for a new era, not recycled meat. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 6:14pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
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Politics › Re: Rigging Has Begun by Princek12(m): 5:58pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
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Politics › Post Pictures Of Your Voting Experience by Princek12(op): 5:49pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
This thread if for anyone who took pictures and would be willing to share them with your fellow Nairalanders. I hope everyone's vote counts. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 5:44pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
Sagamite: No doubt $3bn is not beans.
I don't know why Ribadu did not answer the question. But I don't doubt for a second Ribadu is utterly against corruption.
You make some good points there, but I will caution you should realise that most of these Middle East Countries produce about the same or more oil than us and have only a fraction of our ridiculous population. Hence, part of the reason why we lack the same infrastructure, apart from dumb, heartless leaders and corruption.
Today we are likely to continue the trend. We will vote in another dumb leader called Jonathan that is comfortable with corruption. True. I just hope that even if he wants to steal our money, he should energize the private sector. At least there are numerous private companies, realizing the market potential of Nigeria, that are ready to inject their own money into our economy and build our infrastructure. I also hope that corruption will be reduced. It is just too much in Nigeria. And Jonathan will probably continue the PDP tradition of looting. God save us. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 5:31pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
Sagamite: The Buhari days are not that bad and it was with the best intentions. Nigeria is full of mooorons and a heavy hand is normally needed. The main reason you see me on NL bashing people hard, as that is the only approach that can work with Nigerians and produce quick results.
Furthermore, apart from the gentlemanliness and GRACE Buhari has demonstrated in the last 2 elections Poverty Development Party have rigged, you have to realise Buhari will be operating under democratic powers this time.
Ribadu did not perform any selective justice.
And it is really tosh to say OBJ stole $16bn because:
1) I read somewhere that an analysis done revealed $3bn was the amount not accounted for. So the whole $16bn was typicla Nigerian hearsay that turned into "fact".
2) If OBJ stole $16bn, he would not have the same regards he maintains in the West.
3) OBJ, unlike the typical criminals like IBB, has not for a second hid from the media. He has granted interviews several times to defend himself robustly.
In my view, what ever the amount of money looted for the power project was not looted by OBJ. He most likely was incompetent, careless in the management, but I don't believe he looted it. So I don't think there is anything like "OBJ's $16bn".
Ribadu went after CRIMINALS. That is what matters to me, not their moan that they are being prosecuted based on selective justice.
It is like armed robbers saying why is the police only focussing on their patch. I do agree with you that no one really knows the exact amount that was unaccounted for, whether it was $3B or $16B. My main point is that Ribadu refused to address the question, which signals that he may still be loyal to OBJ. Even if $3B was the amount unaccounted for, it is by no means chump change. By any standards $3B is a lot of money. And I have a different view from most people. I believe that Nigeria's main problem is not corruption but lack of common sense and the presence of dumb leaders (fools) in power. Look at the oil-producing countries in the Middle East, for instance, which arguably boasts more corrupt leaders than Nigeria. But there, most of those oil-producing Middle Eastern countries have world class infrastructure, including power, roads, etc. Nigeria, on the other hand, still has infrastructure that rivals counties like Haiti in some respects, despite being a major oil-producing nation. We don't have basic good roads, electricity, etc. These things are basic for God's sake. We do not have these things not because of corruption, but because we have fools in power. You can still have a corrupt country but at least have world-class infrastructure, just like the Middle East. I have also visited Venezuela, another country ruled by a corrupt Hugo-Chavez. That country has sophisticated road networks and steady power supply. Buhari is still talking about reforming PHCN, which is the same thing we did in 1983. This is 2011, when many countries are realizing the importance of privatization and a strong private sector. But no, this Buhari is still reliving the past. He cannot move us forward. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 5:12pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
JaaizTech: Lets face it and stop beating around the bush, the major reason Buhari is unpopular in the south is not because of his qualities or lack of it but because He is a northerner. simply put it majority of southerners don't want a northerner at the moment even if Buhari were to be contesting against Bode George, most southerners would still prefer Bode George especially christian southerners And what is the main reason Goodluck is unpopular in the North? Give me a break. You are acting as though this tribalism pariah pervades only in the south, and that Northerners don't vote for a candidate strictly based on tribalism. Most, if not all, Northerners would not vote for a southern candidate even if that candidate would end all the problems in Nigeria. These tribalism pariah is ubiquitous, stretching from North to South and East to West. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 5:09pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
JaaizTech: Privatizing PHCN is not the solution, Tinubu gave us the solution 8 years ago but PDP or should I say Obasanjo killed it. The solution is to allow other power companies exist side by side with PHCN, Enron was coming to do that but Obasanjo frustrated it.NITEL existed side by side with MTN, Econet and Glo but couldn't survive the competition. That is the type of competition the power industry needs. There is a lot of money to be made in the power sector of Nigeria, so I believe the private companies will make the investment if the environment is right We are saying practically the same thing. Even if PHCN is not privatized, then the power sector should be deregulated. But it is better to sell off PHCN's assets so that government can focus on what it does best--to provide roads, water, security, tax, etc. PHCN is hemorrhaging money. You and I know that if other companies are allowed to enter the power sector, then PHCN would not have a single customer. People would presumably switch to those companies, which would be the death knell for PHCN. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 5:02pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
Sagamite: Ribadu is not an old mind and definitely not corrupt. He is the antithesis of corruption and has risked his life to fight it.
Buhari is not corrupt and definitely an up-standing character that has ALWAYS had the interest of Nigeria at heart without putting his interest ahead of it.
GEJ is a mooooron! Buhari may not be corrupt, but he is an old head. I don't want to relive the Buhari days. We need to move forward. Whether he possesses the intellectual heft to lead Nigeria is yet to be answered. Ribadu was, and still probably is, a protege to then president Obasanjo, who appointed him head of EFCC. Ribadu engaged in selective justice, whereby he cherry-picked political opponents to prosecute. During one of the presidential debates, when Ribadu was asked about the whereabout of the $16b his former godfather (Obasanjo) allegedly earmarked for the power project, Ribadu said something to the effect that he did not want to dwell on the past and pass blame, and that he was ready to move on. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 4:53pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
If Jonathan wins, which I believe he will, I just hope that something good comes out of his presidency. He has promised-and he is taking affirmative steps--to deregulate and privatize the PHCN (Nepa). That would be a sustainable path towards solving Nigeria'a power crisis once and for all.
If he can pull it off, that would be a legacy. My qualms with Buhari is that he wants to "reform" the PHCN. How can you keep reforming an entity that is hemorrhaging money and will never be successful. Reforming the PHCN also endangers our power sector because if another inept government takes over in the future, their ineptitude could revert the PHCN to the way it ways, meaning we would be back to square one without adequate power.
Privatization and deregulation present the best prospects to end our power crisis once and for alll. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 4:42pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
Sagamite: Today is likely to be a sad day.
We are going to have a reetard called Jonathan elected as President for 4 years.
4 more years of destroying our hopes and dreams.
4 more years of waiting for positive change.
4 fcking hard, miserable, corrupt years. no matter which candidate gets elected among this pool of candidates, we will have all the aforementioned things for four years. All the candidates are either corrupt or old minds or have one problem. |
Politics › Re: Presidential Election, 16th April, 2011 by Princek12(m): 4:24pm On Apr 16, 2011 |
xterra2: Just voted and I voted for Buhari
I would announce the results here, when they finish voting
Right now, people are still voting so they haven't started counting it yet
BB 2011 Dont worry. buhari will do a good job fighting corruption as head of the efcc. since his entire campaign bottomed on anti-corruption, he would be better situated if he heads the efcc; that way he can maximize his desire for ending corruption |