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9jakool:
Agreed about the list except for a few areas.
I don't think ogiri is a Yoruba word, I may be wrong though.
moi moi and akara are exclusively Yoruba. Why? The main ingredient, black eyed peas are grown in dryer climate zones found in Yorubaland and Hausaland.
Also, Akara has a direct meaning in Yoruba. it is the generic term for pastry or cake. For example, Akara Ogbomoso, is a type of savory pastry from Ogbomoso which is made from corn. The word for a Western cake is Akara oyinbo/ Akara enbo. Akara also has a deeply cultural symbolism in Yoruba culture as it's eaten as a funeral rite for the old after a certain age. The equivalence of Yoruba's moi moi is Igbo's ukpo.

All I know is that Yorubas use moin moin and we say mai-mai (in a typical Igbo accent). I've seen akara talked about in ancient Igbo adages. The ultimate etymology might be Yoruba but it's more of a shared word than direct loan. You might get away with it if you were talking about Ijaw or Gwari but Igbo and Yoruba share a lot of root words and we've both been influenced by Igala in the middle.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OiynbBvMblcC&pg=PA155&dq=Igbo+Yoruba+mai+mai+moin+moin&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Igbo%20Yoruba%20mai%20mai%20moin%20moin&f=false

Ogiri's shared. I know the obvious Yoruba version is iru but I heard ogiri's also used deep in the SW and the above book says that too. It's a bit like ogi/akamu and agidi/eko. Igbos use both terms for pap while akamu's a foreign word in Yoruba. Yorubas use both agidi and eko for cornmeal but we only use agidi across the Niger. That book explains how.

Edit: iru’s the Yoruba equivalent of okpei (locust bean). Actual ogiri’s made from castor oil.

Dilish007:
Oga the person u quoted is correct.
The white is referred to as Ndi Ocha or Ndi Beke in igbo land. In the yoruba land, the white man is referred to as Awon Oyinbo. In pidgin its Oyibo pipu.

Dont put people down cos u cant find d strength to climb, just take a fvcking seat n chill.

We also say ndi oyibo.

aljharem:
One thing igbos do is that they hate to admit that they have learnt a lot from Yoruba and Hausa especially the yorubas

Oyinbo or oyibo, ashewo, moin moin, boli, egusi etc are all of Yoruba origin

Now in igbo weddings we have Aso ebi, agbada etc which are yoruba origin as well.

The truth is that igbos before colonialism where forest dwelling people unlike yorubas, nupe, fulani and hausas that travelled a lot.

Even my great grand father when going to hajj want to Mecca by foot. Took him about 8 months or so.

There have mixing of cultures before the igbos became civilised so it is only natural for them to borrow from us.

Not only that things like moin moin beans and melon seed only grow in arid land which the igbos never had.

Please Don't be offended but it is the truth.

Agidi, oka, ogiri, egusi, akara and moi moi are shared. The rest of your post is nonsense for obvious reasons and you know that.

aljharem:
I hope you are not talking about my mention. If I have lied them point it out.

Who else would I be talking about?

So much nonsense coming from that Yoruba supremacist up there.

paziena

I boola chi

Dilish007:
Oga the person u quoted is correct.
The white is referred to as Ndi Ocha or Ndi Beke in igbo land. In the yoruba land, the white man is referred to as Awon Oyinbo. In pidgin its Oyibo pipu.

Dont put people down cos u cant find d strength to climb, just take a fvcking seat n chill.

So why do we use obodo oyibo, aku oyibo, oyibo for the English language...?

No one uses bekee upland. That's exclusively an Abia/Imo thing.

9jakool:
Don't forget Ashawo

What's this one even saying? No one speaking Igbo deeply uses ashewo or abi. Everyone knows they're Yoruba loan words. You can see that oyinbo/oyibo's a shared word wherever the ultimate etymology comes from.

Oh, you wan tell me that because we the ejime we use for twins in Igbo comes from Yoruba it's a direct loanword?

obidevine:
Ask yourself that question

All I was telling that poster was that it wasn't a write up but that you copied and pasted. Not that copying and pasting's a bad thing. No vex.

obidevine:
Probz or whatever lame moniker you go by. You say I copied from Wikipedia , I clearly stated that it was culled from Wikipedia. Why don't you copy and paste an article and let's see how far it goes. I'd have called you a dimwit but from the look of things even a dimwit is smarter than you are.

Did I say there was anything wrong with copying and pasting an article? Are you mad?

Kennydoc:
I didn't say Yorubas will pronounce oyinbo as oye ibo. I said they will pronounce onye Igbo as oye ibo.

What do you mean by literary meaning of Oyibo in Igbo? Have you not learnt about etymology before? Different words in different languages are formed through different means.

Mind you that Igbo language isn't as progressive as Yoruba language. Yoruba language gets new words every year, while I can't say the same of Igbo language in the past 20 years.

I'm not trying to say Yorubas learnt Oyibo from Igbos. I'm only implying that there might have been 2 or more different routes to the development of the word, oyibo. While I might ascribe the pidgin version pronounced as òyìbó to the Yorubas (though the removal of the 'n' is another issue), I still maintain that óyíbó of the Igbos has no link with oyinbo.
EOD

What's this business with the accented spelling of oyibo? How's the pidgin one meant to be pronounced? Emphasis on the i or na?

absoluteSuccess:
how is it that its white man that introduce coconut to the igbo?.

Am I the owner of the Igbo language?

Arda1000:
nwannaa agreed but oyibo and oyinbo should not spoil the copy and pasted post

Oyibo/oyinbo's what this thread's about. The natural discussion's expanding on the OP, not spoiling it.

absoluteSuccess:
https://www.nairaland.com/2191374/etymology-word-oyinbo/9

What about the Fon/Egun aspect of the word Oyinbo/Yevo?

Do we have european fruits in igbo with the word forming a prefix or suffix?

Example is Yoruba opeinbo, pineapple, ultimately meaning 'europeans palmfruit' in Yoruba because of its pines, then also, 'Orombo'. 'Apple' or in Yoruba psyche 'europeans version of ogbono fruit'.

All sorts of words in Igbo have the oyibo suffix attached to them.
coconut = akuoyibo
doctor = dibia oyibo
soft chicken = okuku oyibo
obodo oyibo = white man's land

People from Imo and Abia states use bekee but for those of us from the Anambra/Enugu/Delta Igbo axis, oyibo is the word for anything to do with the white man or westernisation. The white man himself can be called oyibo or onye ocha depending on the speaker. Oyibe's also used as a variant of oyibo.

Oyibo might be a thing in pidgin too but it's deeply ingrained in the Igbo language and it's obviously been in use for a long time whether it was borrowed from Yoruba or not. It's not a 21st century loan word like ashewo or shey.

Arda1000:
This oyibo and oyinbo should not spoil the beautiful write up. The op made his point clear if you read it. If not go and read it again

Write up o gini? He copied and pasted from Wiki.

femolii:
That word oyinbo is a pure yoruba language

So a word's now a language?

Benekruku:
Would have made a 3rd class in the university if I could read this long Epistle


Can someone summarise in two sentences

OP don talk say the word might be Yoruba, Igbo or Edo.

I can't wait for the physicist to start his own.

We could just agree that oyibo is Igbo and oyinbo is Yoruba. Both etymologies have convincing enough theories and one didn't have to copy from the other.

"Though popular jollof rice originated from Sierra Leone, it is native to the igbo tribe of southern Nigeria, suggesting that the igbo community have settled and spread their culinary traditions well beyond the borders of Nigeria."

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=wXH5AQAAQBAJ&pg=PT311&dq=

Hmm.

MZLady39:
Wow! So you have two different types of rice.
My weakness is rice....
I literally could eat rice everyday...it's in my genes.
Brown rice is the healthiest, but I struggle with it so much.
So what are the types of rice used there and why two?
Are they parboiled long grain? Or basmati (the Indian rice)?
What ingredients were used in the rice dishes?
Also what type of meat is that?
Sorry for so many questions.

I had some takeaway fried rice left over but I made the jollof. I use the normal long grain hard rice. The meat's chicken.

Ingredients for the jellof? I posted a recipe a couple pages back and that's what I use most of the time. Basically De Rica, curry, white pepper, maggi and meat stock.

weyabcom:
I eat twice a day... Even eat once any day I take much on starchy food...
So say more

Skipping meals can actually cause the opposite of what you think so there's your problem.

Work out.

Thespacepilot:
Leave them they hate seeing anything Igbo...The dude okocha is from Delta and from the anioma area that was in the Midwest he knows the history better...Thus look at them ranting up and down..

I bet that AkanPhysicist has only just written his JAMB in Physics.

Thespacepilot:
Dude the person that made that statement his from Delta and anioma-igbo...He knows the history than a teenager like you..

You're wasting your breath on that preteen Afonja.

weyabcom:
lol like stop eating? U have sense

You eat less and work out more.

I have sense but you don't.

Stop asking yeye questions and do what you know you need to do.

OMANBALA1:
I dont know much about them but I know Onwe is a common name in Ebonyi


Enugu...Nnamani,Ugwu,Ogbodo,Odo,Nwodo,Chime..etc

Yeah, I know Ogbodo's common in Enugu.

banmee:
Yes but fry it first.

We don't fry meat for soups. It's not necessary.

Unless it’s egusi (in which case frying the anu in bleached palm, or even groundnut, oil might as well be). Else oven-grilling (if you get oven for ulo) or just boiling and capping it off at that is pretty-sufficient.

All this is coming from quite an Igbotic stance, still. Yoruba people on the other hand don’t really need a particular reason or excuse to use oil so maybe that’s what it is.

Midweek rice.

How about Ebonyi?

Osakwe sounds more like a Delta Igbo/Ika thing to me. Didn't know it's common in Omambala area