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Culture / Re: Umuzocha And Igala by Probz(m): 3:47pm On Apr 24
RedboneSmith:



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What you saying, g?
Culture / Re: Early Igbo Sojourners In Eastern Yorubaland by Probz(m): 4:00pm On Apr 23
Akintundexxy:
Easterners always trying to say they were everywhere. Flat headed adopted sons of Jews.

Ndu-Oka travelled far back in the day, as bonafide itenaries. Like it or not, that’s a fact. That’s the truth.
Food / Re: Traditional Foods From Your Town/city/village by Probz(m): 1:02pm On Apr 23
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Culture / Re: Umuzocha And Igala by Probz(m): 10:53am On Apr 23
AjaanaOka:
I will only speak about Umuzocha. If Nsukka people are here, they will speak for themselves.

Umuzocha is not a mixed community in the sense that you seem to be thinking. There is no indigene-vs-settler, Igbo-vs-Igala dichotomy going on among us. We all are indigenes.

A brief background of Umuzocha people to make what I'm saying a little clearer:

Umuzocha is a splinter-group of a larger community in Awka known as Amachalla-na-Ato. Amachalla-na-Ato is wholly indigenous and has no memory of migrating from anywhere outside the boundaries of Awka, ie., they are autochthonous. When a group of blacksmiths from Agbaja-Udi area came and settled in Agulu-Awka, some lineages from Amachalla-na-Ato befriended the settler-smiths, learnt the art of smithing from them and took the name of Umuzocha. Thus of all the lineages in Amachalla-na-Ato, only the Umuzocha lineages are blacksmiths; the other lineages (Amudo and Amachalla) remained farmers.

Later, much later, during the age of itineracy, Umuzocha blacksmiths began travelling to hinterland Igala communities and the neighbouring Nsukka areas where they made and sold metal wares. Some of these travelling Umuzocha men married Igala women from the communities they sojourned in and had children who ( of course) were maternally of Igala descent.

There was no significant settling of Igala men in Umuzocha, apart from these wives that some Umuzocha men married. Igala men did not come here as traders, dyers or warriors - the way they did to some Nsukka communities. Absorption of female foreigners as wives does not give rise to mixed communities, as the tendency is for women to be absorbed and for whatever children they birthed to be raised as full members of their fathers' kingroup. This is why I say Umuzocha is not mixed in the sense you are thinking, and there is no indigene-vs-settler or mixed dichotomy.

I guess the absence of male Igala settlers in Umuzocha also accounts for why there are virtually no imprints of Igala culture on Umuzocha. The only Igala name that I know used in Umuzocha is Attah. Contrast this with Nsukka where there is a plethora of Igala or generic northern names - Asadu, Idoko, Abugu, Abba, Onoja, etc.

There is a masquerade-cum-deity that is said to have been brought by Umuzocha blacksmiths from Igala land. It is called Agunabo. If indeed it came from the Igala, it was repackaged and rebranded, because the name, for one, is an Ìgbò name and not Igala.

Long story short: Umuzocha is not mixed, in the sense of being a mixed Igbo-Igala community, with a group identifying as being of indigenous (Ìgbò) descent and another group identifying as being of settler (Igala) descent . No. It is a homogenous Ìgbò community. It is only mixed in the sense that every community is mixed - through intermarriage.

Ah. I see.
Food / Re: Traditional Foods From Your Town/city/village by Probz(m): 11:53pm On Apr 22
Anambra uses the most onugbu (bitterleaf) in Igboland, whereas what’s more characteristic of Imo and Abia states is okazi, and it reflects in the way egusi’s cooked. There are tonnes of Igbo leaves you can use to cook egusi but ugu, onugbu and okazi (all with or without a sprinkling of uziza leaves) are just three common ways to do it (some of the other vegetables, like azu-igwe/goat weed, are a fair bit more uncommon; not blaming indomie for that but, y’know, the less common leaves are less known to each younger generations, except the ones who study culinary traditions or remarkably have it passed down to them).

Egusi soup in general is very important to the Igbo but you’ve got styles, just like there’s Delta egusi pepper soup, Akwa Ibom egusi (tastes Igbotic but slightly different) egusi made with akwu (banga egusi) that cuts across both Deltans and (more rarely) Igbos (some people use akwu to cook egusi, instead of palm oil; egusi-ocha, a Delta-Igbo thing, hardly uses either if at all). Then there’s akpurapu egusi with achara (elephant-grass). Benue egusi. Igala egusi. Egusi Ijebu (yuck but, for better or worse, it is unique). Ondo/Ekiti egusi that’s always served with pounded yam. There’s probably several forms of it indigenous to so much of Nigeria, and that’s why it’s annoying when both Igbos and Yorubas alike try and claim egusi as belonging solely to them. Countries as far as Ghana and just other parts of West Africa have some form of egusi so it’s not much of a stretch that basically every Nigerian tribe has a type of egusi particular and good-as native to them, and that actually is the reality. The concept of egusi soup in general, for all the variations, is general, not tribal.

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Food / Re: Traditional Foods From Your Town/city/village by Probz(m): 11:46pm On Apr 22
1000Capacity:
South West.. Ekiti..
Pounded Yam and ishapa stew

Yeah, I know that one. You can just call isapa zobo-egusi. That’s basically what it is, like onugbu/bitterleaf egwusi, ugu egwusi, okazi-egusi, whatever the predominant vegetable is in any one case, if any). Egusi cooked with zobo (hibiscus) leaves.

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Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 9:19pm On Apr 22
superintendents:
boss man even 1k make i take see for my account

Bro, this is where the boundary starts. I can’t keep doing that now. Maybe some other time but for now I just wanted to bless a few people in need and leave it at that. Don’t get too used to the offer. I can’t afford for it to be there most of the time. For personal boundary-preservation’s sake plus the fact that this oga just isn’t rich yet. I can’t just be giving you money for credit. That’s not gonna happen.

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Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 9:09pm On Apr 22
odun99:

You're a God sent sir.
You will never lack in your life.
Since you always help people, your generations will never beg for food IJN.
Thanks for all you do on here.

Thanks so much. Like I say, I’m really not flush myself and have my own financial wahala/issues but I also like to help people, even if I can only afford to do it here and there. Anyone who’s seen the current state of this Nigeria would understand why. There’s enough suffering going on as it is.

Yes, e-dey important to not let yourself be taken for a fool/advantage of (especially in a country like Nigeria) but suffering’s real. And people need to know that there are still some people in this world who would go the extra mile for you when they comfortably can. Not everyone has funny principles about money and is super-tight about what they have. I’m not a fool but I’m not heartless either. There’s a difference between letting yourself be used for 419 and helping people who you know are genuinely struggling. Suffering can never be a myth in Nigeria. Yeah, man can’t really make this too much of a consistent habit but here-and-there it’s still better to give than to receive (and receiving is well-bliss, let’s not lie). I guess I’m just that person.

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Food / Traditional Foods From Your Town/city/village by Probz(m): 6:46pm On Apr 22
Whether it’s from your dad’s side or your mum’s side, whether it’s that well-known comparatively or not. It don’t matter. Let’s just come in here and discuss about indigenous foods from our respective parts of Naija. Whether you-dey from the East, West, middle belt, north or far south.

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Food / Re: Fufu Is Life. Afang And Fufu. by Probz(m): 5:51pm On Apr 22
Yes.

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Foreign Affairs / Re: Graphic Footage Of TERRORISTS Caught By Russia Forces (photos) by Probz(m): 5:50pm On Apr 22
Pleasehearmycry:
Hello good morning boss mesmer please you might not know me sir but I happens to benefit from your #100 and #5k new year's gift in the business section in the past when you used to do your giveaway sir though I don't use it to bet sir. Please I'm very for this disturbance at midnight, please sir sorry for what you are about to see me type but desperation made me do this with an alt account because of my very deep problem sir.


Sir I'm currently in trouble. My mum is sick and I have no body around to help us financially. Please she is my world and only parent and the one I have since i lost my baba. Please sir I'm very sorry for disturbing you as you don't owe me anything from your hardword and sweat but please sir if in any way you can help me out please help me sir so I can call the local nurse in my area to give her drips and injections this morning before finding a way to take her to any hospital or clinic nearby please sir please. Though i'm on free basics I will show you my mum lying down on the bed weak sir while we were crying in desperation. Please sir anything will help us sir. I swear to god im not lying sir. Please help if possible sir, I know the economy situation is unfriendly and no one is smiling it's just I'm too young to go this journey of life alone sir. That's what made me disturb others before coming to you sir after I was snubbed.

I don hear your cry, and sorry about your mama. I’m not gonna do it for anyone else now going forward until I have that kind of money to just part with for Nairalanders’ sake but since you asked before I closed the offer, okay. Ngwanu, sister/brother. Let’s be talking privately.

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Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 5:39pm On Apr 22
ShadowMarking:

Sir please I'm on my knees. I'm still at home while my mates are in school sir because of this with no hope and nowhere to help, I begged my former boss yesterday for help and he told me there's nothing he can do. Same as my cousin this morning sir. Please if you can help me in any way please help me sir I beg you in the name of christ. I can give you my school id sir. I'm real please I don't know who to go to or what to do any more. I know you have helped others this thread and you have given it out a iot on the thread but if you can still help another person please let it be me. 29296 58070 palmpay.
Save me from this trouble oh lord.

I can give you 10,000 Naira and that’s it. I do sympathise with y’all but I’m not in the best financial position myself so this really is gonna have to be the last time for now. I’m going back on me drawing a line under giving more people ogho this time but I’m only doing it once. I can’t keep doing it for a little while now.

Being nice for the sake of being nice with no catch is a rarity in places like Mbaise and Ngor-Okpala but it’s common with people like the Anambra and the Ondo. So you’re lucky. If I was from Mbaise I probably would’ve found a way of using you for blood-ritual by now. Some of those people are truly wicked.

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Culture / Umuzocha And Igala by Probz(m): 12:36am On Apr 22
Let’s talk this one out. How much of Umuzocha village (in Awka) is known to be indigenous to Awka vs. how many people there are a mixture of Igala and Igbo, and likewise for Nsukka (I might’ve done a thread on this before, but contextually it kinda fits in here as well, even if just for comparison’s sake). Where does the Igala influence actually come from?

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Culture / Re: How Many Nigerian Languages Are Spoken In Your Family? by Probz(m): 12:02am On Apr 22
AtaniWarrior:

My mother is from Agukwu. She is from Obeagu village. You?

Dad’s side: same Obeagu, umu-mbe clan (paternal grandma from Agulu). Mum’s side: Isiagu-Amikwo, Awka (nee Umuzocha, Awka for her own mum; maternal grandma’s mum from Eha-Ndiagu, Nsukka). For 2 generations of lineage anyway. Core Nri-Awka Anambra Igbo na munwa. Absolutely no-one on this planet can tell me that I’m a fake Igbo, if there even is such a thing (although some people are much more Igbotic than others, no doubt). I was at a hotel in Awka recently and some random guy even asked me if I’m from Amikwo village. Didn’t want to answer that question because I don’t get personal with total strangers in the flesh but he was kinda onto something. Somehow. Maybe have a slight ‘Amikwo look’ about me. I dunno.

Also, I hear what you saying about the whole Umuzocha distin. The thing with my mum’s mum is that she actually had to flee to Idah during the Biafran war so she probably would’ve learnt Igala anyway but the fact that she’s Umuzochan might have had something to do with it. She’s no more (died about 17 years ago) but she spoke Igala as well as Igbo right ’til the end. How much of Umuzocha village actually has Igala heritage?

I used to think that Akankpisi was just the other side of Nri but it turns out that Nri is actually just Agukwu-Nri (for all the offshoots, like Ogwashi-Ukwu and, indeed, Akankpisi, that exist) and Akankpisi is its own village. Is that the truth?
Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 11:35pm On Apr 20
Peterzoom20:

Hello sir. Please im terribly sorry for the delay. Please don't be angry sir. The thing is I was banned while in commenting in another section which made me had to make another account.
Please this is it again cause It hasn't reflected yet sir.

It really hasn’t worked but I’ll keep trying.
Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 10:42pm On Apr 20
PeterZoom:

Thanks a lot sir. Everything you gave shall be replenished. Kindly have a great week ahead sir. I'm so grateful.

But re-check your details and let me know,
Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 10:37pm On Apr 20
PeterZoom:

Thanks a lot sir. Everything you gave shall be replenished. Kindly have a great week ahead sir. I'm so grateful.

Not to worry. I might not be rich but one thing I’m also not is stingy. If I fit-help someone, I will. Especially considering the state of our Nigeria. It’s far from easy to survive.

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Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 10:30pm On Apr 20
PeterZoom:

Thank you sir.

Done. Hopefully e fit be enough to sustain you now until Tuesday or so.
Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 10:24pm On Apr 20
PeterZoom:

Hello good evening sir please I'm sorry for this and I don't mean to be rude and heartless please especially after you've helped several people today sir. Please don't take this the wrong way at all but I please plead if there's still anything you can please use to help me feed this night and the rem weekend to Monday sir please the only thing I've had to eat is the leftover rice and palm oil combo I had yesterday. Please if you still have enough to spare I'll be grateful but if what you have is exhausted and not enough for you please do not be angry and kindly forgive me for this disturbance. I'll just drink borehole water and go to sleep once again. I'm honestly very sorry for disturbing sir. It's just severe lack that pushed me to this sir.

You’re gonna have to be the last person I do this for this weekend but, like, yh. I’m happy to help. Send me your bank-deets, innit.

And don’t apologise. I can’t have you starving and without gen.-fuel if there’s something I fit do abar it.

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Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 6:56pm On Apr 20
odun99:

Seems NL is having issues.
This is my Bank details sir...
Stanbic IBTC
0043779401
Odunayo Bosede
God bless you sir


Listen, I don send you 25k. It might not be super-much and if I fit help more later, I go do so, but for now that’s all I can do. Try and manage that one, o?

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Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 6:32pm On Apr 20
odun99:

This is what nairaland freez for me to send. Then when you reply I'll be able to send my message.
Thanks ma sir.

The thing is I haven’t even seen that e.-mail yet, only the notification on Nairaland. Please try again.
Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 5:59pm On Apr 20
odun99:

Thanks sir.
I've messaged you.
God bless you always 🙏

E.-mail me again, and with your bank-deets, o (if you hadn’t already)?
Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 4:22pm On Apr 20
2RightHands1Coc:
I don't agree with the list. Where is naija. You know how many Canadian Loud and Colos we deh burn for Phase 2 every blessed day

We’re not talking about weed for now. This is about pure nicotine/tobacco. Most Nigerians living in Nigeria who smoke do it behind closed doors or maybe at the club. You can’t just be walking down Eke market or the streets of Abuja and be smoking Benson and Hedges just for the sake of it. It does make you look somehow in Nigeria.

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Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 4:18pm On Apr 20
odun99:
If God has blessed you please help me and my family. We've not eaten since yesterday.
I'll also appreciate if you can help with a job. I have an MBA and a Bsc.
May God bless you as you help

I’ll give you some money. Message me privately.

It doesn’t even matter how-many qualifications you have. A person’s got to eat.

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Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 4:17pm On Apr 20
Allisgud:
People who were expecting to see Jamaica were disappointed

1. We ain’t talking Mary-Jane here. Just tobacco.
2. Is Jamaica in Africa?
Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 4:15pm On Apr 20
kokoA:
I think they only considered cigarettes not igbo (weed).

Obviously. Delta State alone would be number-1 in Africa if it was just weed.
Health / Re: Highest Smoking Countries In Africa (Top 10 List) by Probz(m): 4:15pm On Apr 20
illicit:
There's a stigma surrounding smoking in Nigeria

There is.

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Food / Re: Your Fingers Will Smell For A Week – Caucasian Man Says To Wife Making Fufu by Probz(m): 12:25pm On Apr 20
Wawelexy:
I love the Igbo people Fufu(Akpu), it doesn't smell like that of we yorubas

It smells. Maybe not as much but it still smells.

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Politics / Re: Reno Omokri: Can Air Peace Survive Emirates Return To Nigeria? by Probz(m): 8:26pm On Apr 18
bmaster2000:



Bipolar disorder patient spotted.
In your first sentence, you specifically depicted your ignoramus status. You specifically acknowledge that you are ignorant and naive yet you still drop some irrational reaction comments ....Are you dumb? Yes...and since you are dumb ...be quiet and let me tutor you...
Igbo culture is not the same as Nigeria's universal culture..there are more than 300 multi-ethnic groups in Nigeria...and Igbo is just one of them...now, each tribe and culture are so unique amd important to the people who practice them ....however, there is always the common norm or culture which is generally unique to all the culture ...
1. Pidgin English: irrespective of your local language ...pidgin English is widely acceptable to all of Nigeria.

2. Ankara clothes: each tribe has its own unique cultural attire but Ankara clothes are widely and universally acceptable to all Nigerians.

3. Food: each tribe in Nigeria has its own unique food but Jollof Rice is widely acceptable

4. Music: each tribe has its own unique music but Afro-beat and Amapiano are widely acceptable

S. Place : Each tribe has a its own unique place but Lagos state is the centre of all the activities.

And so on...

Now, Air Peace Airline wants to pick a brand which should be generally acceptable and he restricted himself to Igbo clothes attire ..and the volume of this speck.

To be continued

Nwayo.
Food / Re: DIY: To Prepare Oha Soup, Follow These Steps: by Probz(m): 3:26am On Apr 16
Ogeawesome:
you forgot to add Ogiri, very important

Maybe they’re not from Anambra State. Imo and Abia Igbos don’t cook with ogiri.

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