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Seun:
My Fellow Nairalanders,

We have implemented a minimum post size of 40 characters in order to improve our content quality. We want people to patiently compose substantial replies before hitting the submit button. Based on your feedback, we may increase or decrease the limit in the future.

We have also extended the blocking period between members to 3 weeks, because many Nairalanders felt that the previous duration was too short.

Our automated system for dealing with spam and toxicity is now much smarter than it was in the beginning. It's now much less likely to take action against innocent posts. Alas, it is still far from perfect, so please be patient with us as we strive to make it more perfect.

- Seun.

Based on the feedback, I’d remove the 40-character requirement for posting. I haven’t come across a single soul who thinks it’s a good idea. I might be mistaken but that’s just how I see it. Me, anyone who knows me knows that I’m a poster of intense substance but even I don’t want to necessarily have to type an essay every time I post. Some posts are appropriate when they’re short and succinct.

More beef and shaki for us, then.

Great. Really happy this is officially a thang. It makes sense.

Grateman123:
Thanks for the genuine advice. Just that I'm not a woman I can't go through the process of frying so I gave it out. I appreciate your advice though.
quote author=Mom007 post=135821147]Make sure there are no droppings in tge garri. If not, refry the garri in a hot pan till it's hot n smokey. Then allow to airdry and store properly. Heat kills germs you see.

If u cannot go through the trouble then just throw it out.

Just say you don’t know how to cook. The best men are the ones who know how to cook.

Why does that bother you? What business of yours is his sexuality?

armyofone:
You are correct - iru, smoked fish, crayfish, stockfish, are the culprits don't like the odor myself as my nose is very sensitive.

When I cook with smoke fish or stock fish ( I do like the stews made with them), I make sure to rinse all my dishes/ plates in bleach before dish washing, lysol to wipe down cooking area and also put clean air on when cooking so all aroma sip out. I wash my hands a lot when I handle them culprits

I don't like that stale food smell that attacks ones nostril on entering some people's house/home. Or on their clothing. Man must eat

Hehehe. Dried fish is always a culprit, innit?

I can’t even look at him. Hideous, hideous face.

armyofone:
I think Quality of ingredients - imagine using smoked fish that's border between rot and normal. You go for it in Nigeria because it is what you can afford and care less.

Outside you wouldn't want to cook with such because you are considerate of your neighbors.

As for jollof I think a real naija jollof should have goat meat stock or boiler aged chicken stock for deliciousness

Not those cut corners jollof.

Smoked fish is a staple among Nigerians, in the diaspora as well as in Nigeria itself. It’s just that ingredients like ogiri, okpei and dried fish might not get used in environments where there’ll be white people complaining about the smell (which is understandable, because they’re not directly used to such scents). But when you’re afforded the privacy you need, who wouldn’t use dawadawa, iru or ishi-okporoko if they have it? Yeah, you might hold back when your non-ethnic flatmates (who you might be really good mates with otherwise, don’t get me wrong; I mean that in the most respectful way possible) are around but that doesn’t mean that these ingredients aren’t there. Some people may even use smoked fish that’s on the border of rot when they’ve got the privacy they need. Some Nigerians in the diaspora have fishy-smelling houses and armpits that always give off okporoko-smell. Some folk don’t just cook with okporoko. It seeps into their clothes, their sweat, and it can even be quite magical when done right, as well as off-putting. It just depends.

HEAVEN4444:
marisngeles come and see ooooo, so the observation is valid

I’m not saying it’s universally the case but as a broad observation, yes. Igbos in the U.K. tend to be more consistent when it comes to jollof rice and mai-mai, but, again, I’m speaking in the broadest of terms. Some Eastern villages really don’t try at-all when it comes to jollof and that just wouldn’t run in Granby, Moss Side or Peckham, I’m not gonna lie to you. Of course, the key to better jollof rice isn’t the exclusive hold of Igbos in the diaspora, but generally the average Igbo living in Liverpool, Manchester, London or North Carolina is one step ahead than the Igbo living in Nigeria itself (especially the core East, with a few exceptions) when it comes to reverence and ceremonial swag where jollof rice, smoky or otherwise, is concerned. That’s not necessarily the case for Yoruba people, and maybe not Deltans and Edos, either, but definitely with Igbos. Diaspora Igbos tend to do better justice to it.

Igbos in the U.K. (and possibly America; I’m not sure, but I imagine British Igbo jollof would be more of a blueprint) also tend to make better jollof rice/mai-mai (moi-moi) than in Nigeria itself, although a few places (Awka and, if we’re including P.H., Port-Harcourt) are on-par. Outside of that, jollof rice does tend to be cooked better by Igbos in the diaspora as opposed to home directly. Anyhow-concoction rice cooked with stoney Abakaliki rice naturally isn’t a starter there. Carefully de-stoned Abakaleke rice absolutely should make the cut (for certain variations of jellof rice anyway) but not stony, overly-crayfish-y rice, as is often made in Igbo villages that don’t rate rice like that and see it as birds’ food. U.K. Igbo jollof is held to a more intentional bar of inherent quality. The worst of Igbo jollof (when it’s in the hand of someone who really don’t rate rice like dat) is made in Nigeria itself. Abroad e-get a minimum bar that carries between Chester, Peckham, Liverpool, Milton Keynes and South Carolina. Even-though jollof rice absolutely can be a power-hit of Igbos in the right hands and we have just as much rightful claim to it as Yorubas (who, Ondo and Ekiti/half of Osun aside, aren’t known for having the finesse and variety when it comes to soups and other traditional foods but may have an inherent edge over most Igbos when it comes to party jollof at-least, on-average). But Awka’s central in it all, and the blueprint doesn’t always hold up as strong in many-an Anambra village, for-example. They don’t take jollof rice as seriously as see it as really typical for them outside ceremonies and whatnot.

MDMA is touted for its psychiatric benefits at this point. Decidedly unsafe to combine with serotonin-strong drugs but when it can be used, it can actually be quite beautiful. Alcohol is far more potentially destructive. It’s up there with heroin in some measures. But because it’s ubiquitously legal and deeply ingrained in many cultures across the world, you’re conditioned to believe that its social acceptability relative to other drugs should never be questioned.

perpeling22:
Which soup do you want to use crayfish for? Omi obe ni abi efoo elegusi tabi efoo riro. Tell me na!

Imagine an Igbo not cooking soup (except pepper-soup) with crayfish.

Gustavowhite:
That person wants to use Apon/Ogbon to distract us from Egusi and it seems even you don’t know that Ogbono is gotten from ugiri Aka bush mango

No Yoruba restaurant in Lagos sells the Apon self,you can’t enter any Yoruba owned restaurant and tell them you want to buy “Obe Apon”

Don’t mind them. That guy’s ‘explanation’ of ogbono being a mispronunciation of apon is just ludicrous.

Dsimmer:
Lol. I only stated fact though. Yoruba have Proverbs for Apon soup. Igbo couldn't pronounce Apon thus pronounced it as Ogbon which has no meaning in Igbo language.

Funny how some say ogbono means slimy while another says it means boiling. Lol. Meanwhile, slimy and boiling in Igbo language means another thing entirely. Boiling means "esi" for example. Btw, All soups boils, so why don't Igbo call every soup boiling? Lol. And that's not how boiling is pronounced.

Ogbon means nothing in Igbo language. It was a corruption from the Yoruba Apon.

Seriously, how do people say crap like this with their chest?

RedboneSmith:
Perhaps it would be best for us if we both avoid each other on this space, since neither of us enjoy our interactions?

I find your posts far more interesting than not. I just don’t like your attitude here-and-there. That’s not enough to make me want to avoid you altogether. You trippin., fam.

Next time, I’ll take it personal. But that doesn’t mean I’m not interested to hear when the more erudite, intellectual posters on here (such-as yourself) have to say.

RedboneSmith:
Capitalising is for emphasis. And don't tell me to "relax for God's sake." I don't enjoy the passive aggressiveness.

And I don’t enjoy the non-passive aggression from you.

RedboneSmith:
It is the SAME in Abiriba and Ghana. People don't understand what the matrilineal system is. The matrilineal system in the societies you mentioned is about INHERITANCE. Inheritance in a matrilineal system is from a man to his sisters' sons. It doesn't mean that a man's children come from his wife's village. An Abiriba man is still identified as coming from his father's community.

No need to capitalise in anger. Relax, for God’s sake. Why have you decided to be so hot today?

RedboneSmith:
His father is Urhobo. His mother is Itsekiri. In all extant African cultures, paternal descent is emphasised over maternal descent. Thus, rightly, Reno should be Urhobo. Omokri is an Urhobo name, not Itsekiri.

But for some reason, Reno is ashamed of his paternal heritage and clings exclusively to his maternal descent.

Not Ghana and Abiriba. That’s not-quite true.

Straight-up.

This is water, not soup, jare.

Sef, is this a serious post?

Goldbw122:
He knows what he is doing is just a news to the outsider world that we are doing ok, but inwardly we are not doing great, infact we are going down, even the rich are feeling the hit small small, so what is fuel price now?

Everyone in the outside-world knows that Nigeria is not doing okay, still.

It’s easy for a disconnected rich man to say.

AkogunOlodumare:
@Probz, i posted a similar topic earlier today in the Christianity Etc section but it was removed. Below is the link to it elsewhere.
https://www.facebook.com/61569042549065/posts/pfbid02oDFtQAeiyMVSroN33NmEcoitsMVThhWGH6CnFn23ULHCwEitaHnJdAevsiRHEvudl/

I made one comment. I didn’t pledge my allegiance to your conspiracy-theory laced with inferiority-complex, so please, please leave me out of your nonsense. I’m not involved.

Caramia2020:
Let's wait for the second person narration before we contribute.

We’re probably never going to get that.

Ugh. Yul. He doesn’t seem to have regained his senses yet.

RedboneSmith:
A few names peculiar to the region are Onwe, Anyigo, Nwiboko, Ominyi, Oroke, and names that that have the 'ph' double consonant in them, like Nwazuphu, Nwophe, Nwophoke, Nwiphuru, etc.

Interesting.

Bump.

ChinenyeN, thanks for your refreshing insights, as-usual.

AkogunOlodumare:
Mods, ihope it is okay.

It’s not, really, though, is it?

DaddyJapan:
This article is grossly misleading.
There is no way the UK absorbed 120,000 long-term migrants from Nigeria in one year.

I agree. The real number will be 29 times higher.

Apcshit:
70 percent are from SW Nigeria

Shut up.