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igbodefender:
Why are they deeply ensconed in Igboland? Did they miss their way? I doubt it.

Why are there Ijaw communities in Ondo and ndi Igbo in Benue? Should they ditch their identities for Yoruba and Idoma because they're not the majority in their states?

igbodefender:
I have an Olukwumi Aunt. Try telling her she isn't Igbo. Plus no need to add the word 'nonsense' in that post of yours.

I hate to be presumptive but that's most likely because she's assimilated and Olukumi by name only. Conc. ndi Olukumi speak a Yoruba language and they're not Igbo.

igbodefender:
Igala na Igbo bu nwanne. Do you know that a large section of Igbos came from Igala. They are called Olu. They were fishermen and over the centuries have mixed successfully with the other Igbos?

Igbo bu Igbo, eh. Olukumi's not Igbo. That's the point.

Olukumi's a Yoruba subgroup. Just quit while you're ahead. Don't be saying nonsense.

laudate:
Because he can see the truth, unlike you! By the way, who is a 'yeye' pikin?

You might have a point in this thread but I'm just remembering how much you like to accuse Igbo people of forcing an ethnic identity on unrelated tribes.

Remember you saying I came to face the Igala and dictate to them on that Kogi thread I made? Do you know my grandma's Igala by blood, hm? Or does being Igbo alone mean I'm trying to push an identity on people I supposedly know nada about?

igbodefender:
Olukwumi is an Igbo sub group. They are part of the Igbo aborigines of Ile Ife.

Your moniker no be igbodefender for nothing, clearly. Why don't you go ahead and claim Itsekiri and Hausa? Have they all got ancient links to Agukwu Nri?

igbodefender:
Ok, everyone sheath your swords. Let there be peace. Afterall we are all correct or be corrected.

Why are you sticking up for this yeye pikin?

laudate:
Why are you offended? Were you not the same person who stated earlier that "I am not in for that ethnic rubbish, loud mouthedness and sacarsim, cos I don't think anyone has monopoly of it." Or have you forgotten? I merely threw your words back at you. So why are you complaining? let me just refresh your memory. Others have cited sources and facts to buttress the fact that the old Ugbo people of Ile-Ife were not the aborigines realted to the present day Nd'Igbo of the South-east, but you persist in recycling your own brand or revisionism.




My words were not extreme. I merely returned the favour he had earlier extended to me, by using the same kind of language he had used to respond to my previous post. Obviously, both of you chose to ignore his earlier rants. What can we call that?

And you're too much of a wuss to say common "bloody" without filtering it out even though you don't mind returning the favour?

blackberlin:
No, Hausa came from Ijaw... Coconut head

How will you see the obvious when you're blinded by obvious Afonja propaganda?

Most interesting thing I've read all year.

blackberlin:
@Olakunlae

The truth is that every other tribe down south of Nigeria are offshoots of the Yoruba tribe. The only reason they refuse to identify directly with Yoruba is because they want to carve a niche for themselves, an identity they believe the Yoruba race, due to its large size, will overhadow.

The Benin people of Edo State will always make you believe the Yoruba race (Oduduwa) came from them and they skillfully dished up their history because Yoruba history is filled with mythology, instead of reality and theirs is a cooked up reality instead of mythology based history. But we're not alone. Even the Koreans and other Asian countries believe they descended from Tigers, funny but true, owing to their ancient religious beliefs which the forefathers refused to separate from their history, same thing with the Yoruba forefathers.

The Yoruba race is one of the biggest in West Africa, with countries like Benin Republic and Togo having their own native Yoruba people. It's also a culturally relevant language in Brazil.

I hope you know Yoruba came from Igbo.

laudate:
Guy, you are not just confused, but totally clueless. So blo*dy what if they belong to the 'kwa family? Do you know how many tribes belong to the kwa group, yet their languages are mutually unintelligible to each other? Do you think everyone is gullible enough to swallow the lies you are trying to recycle and pass off as 'truth' here? The only person spewing ethnic rubbish, loud mouthedness and sarcasm is you!! You know what? Never mind....

Guy, cuss if you wan cuss. No ome's gonna take offence to you saying bloody more than insulting someome who doesn't agree with you.

VomeSchakleton:
First of all, politics is the only influence that matters.


Subsequently, assuming you're igbo, whats the point of being influential if the only influence you have is negative? Igbos arent known for the little victories they inflate and brag about, around the world nigerians are frowned upon as criminals and crooks. No one meets a nigerian in any foreign country and thinks good about him immediately. This is all your fault, its your doing. You are known for drug dealing, fraud and every other form of lowlife activities. And you go about beating your chest like the gorillas you are about how great you are just shut the f--k up!

You are unpatriotic, arrogant, foolish, myopic and single handedly ruined this country. I yearn for the day somebody will chase you monkeys back to your forests and give you your independence, lets see how long you will last before you implode. Apologies to the very few intelligent and humble igbos, but most of you lot are repulsive and truly ignorant.

Is it me you thought you could talk to like that?

cc. bigfrancis21

I might've started a thread a while ago about the origins of certain Naijalingo words. What do you think of sef, sha, ehya, kissing teeth (mtchew), o as a suffix for emphasis (aka okay oo) and all those other Nigerian mannerisms that we use every day? Igbo or Yoruba origin?

Johnpaul09:
Young man, go and meet any Igbo scholar nearest to you, Bekee is the Igbo word for Whites and not Oyibo. Oyibo is derived from a Yoruba word, oyinbo. Oga is also widely used in Igbo conversation, but not Igbo word at all. I didn't see where you mentioned it in you so-called analysis. You need to study the language, do proper verification and thank me later and come out of this your cataclysmic vortex of linguist doom.
End of discussion!

Onye ocha's the official term for white man actually. He just told you that no one up north uses bekee. Unu can have your ala bekee and aku bekee but we say and always have said obodo oyibo, aku oyibo. Bekee ended up getting adopted in central Igbo and nothing more.

Some people say that bekee was derived from the Ibibio/Efik mbaraka so in that case bekee's not 'authentically' Igbo either.

aljharem:
I wonder when Oyibo became Igbo word Why would you call a foreigner Onye Igbo/Ibo. [size=14pt]That is a big fat lie[/size]. Please Odumchi and co, Know your history and culture well before discussion in cultural issues because an ignoramus would actually believe you all.

The closest was ufeolorun

Oyinbo literal meaning is pealed back honey/ Peeled skinned people which is the termed by yorubas to address light skin forienger According to Debra L. Klein

http://www.google.co.uk/#hl=en&sugexp=frgbld&gs_nf=1&cp=13&gs_id=1e&xhr=t&q=oyinbo+yoruba&um=1&ie=UTF-8&tbo=u&tbm=bks&source=og&sa=N&tab=wp&ei=Ke5lT8b3GubN0QWbt8ybCA&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_qf.,cf.osb&fp=83eff03ccb2cc236&biw=1043&bih=558

This word Oyinbo is not only used in Nigeria but also by Crelos people in Serri leano and according to them, they got it from the yoruba word

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=nAQIcqwGqTEC&pg=PA80&dq=oyinbo+yoruba&hl=en&sa=X&ei=5e9lT6aKNtK10QW75qWSCA&ved=0CDsQ6AEwAjgK#v=onepage&q=oyinbo%20yoruba&f=false

Oyibo is an Igbo way of saying Oyinbo which was originally never an Igbo word. Lets get our facts right here.

Oye ebeo is what Igbos call white (red) people before they adopted Oyibo

An Igbo writer called Ugo Nwokeji even claims the word Oyibo was borrowed from the yorubas and NEVER AN IGBO WORD. Link below

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=tjLjoC6ScKYC&pg=PA218&dq=oyibo+igbo&hl=en&sa=X&ei=0PBlT9--AqLK0QXww7CgCA&ved=0CE0Q6AEwBA#v=onepage&q=oyibo%20igbo&f=false

it is just like saying the word "na" is orginally hausa or so, we all know that "na" is a corrupt version of "nna" thus of Igbo origin.

What's that got to do with my post?

9jakool:
Do you have a reason for wanting to know?

Nope, I'm just wondering. You seem to know a lot about ndi Igbo.

What tribe are you, 9jakool? That's if you don't mind me asking.

Hian.

Oyinbo's Yoruba. Oyibo's Igbo. One didn't have to borrow or copy, Olu.

That last bit about Igbo farmers vs. Yoruba civilisations is nonsense and you know it. Mechie onu.

Your English is nonsense, ewa.

Nonsense.

You still haven't expanded on what you meant when you say Yorubas don't go near pidgin compared to Northern Igbos.

Who even cares what ndi Ika use for white man? That one na their own wahala. They can call them crackers if they want.

bigfrancis21:
How did you know?

Because I know how versed you are on black history. I'm waiting for you to enlighten these niggas.

pazienza:
The pronunciation is not same. Don't be deceived by their spelling.

Oka in Yoruba is all about swallow. If you process Agbado ( maize ) and convert it to a swallow meal by grinding it, it becomes Oka( still pronounced differently from that of Ndiigbo), when yam is peeled and pounded, and converted to swallow, it is also called Oka by Yorubas, same goes for Sorghum and other cereals that can be processed and converted to swallow forms.

Oka in Yoruba is different from Oka in Igbo, they don't connote same meaning and they are not pronounced alike. They are not shared words, neither are they borrowed words.

Oka for all intents and purposes, means flour in Yoruba.

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=OiynbBvMblcC&pg=PA155&dq=Igbo+Yoruba+mai+mai+moin+moin&hl=en&sa=X&redir_esc=y#v=onepage&q=Igbo%20Yoruba%20mai%20mai%20moin%20moin&f=false

That book acknowledges that agbado's the more general Yoruba term for corn but it says oka and eka are used too. Scroll down a couple pages.

I'm not disagreeing with anything else though. I'm with you on the oyibo thing. Just not oka.

I don't know how oka's pronounced in Yoruba.

pazienza:
The Igbo pronunciation of Oka, differ's from that of Yoruba.

They are not even shared.

They are of you go deep in the Yoruba interior. I agree with everything else you're saying but oka's legit a shared word between Igbos and Yorubas.

bigfrancis21 does best on these kind of threads.

AbakalikiPress:
You should read ur brother's comment here:




When swamp Igbos don't use Oyibo , na Enugu Igbo on a hill close to Benue wey neva see white man until like when.... go come dey claim ownership of a Yoruba word.

Stop lying bro. Oyinbo is a Yoruba word. Anambra/Enugu Igbos denasalised it by removing the nasal n before the B, because their dialects lacked nasalizations. And from there, it entered pidgin as Oyibo, because majority of yorubas do not go near pidgin. But now, the Yoruba form is gradually coming back to take pre-eminence if you notice the internet very well.

A corrupted word entered pidgin through Nsukka and Umueri over the original? Majority of Yorubas don't go near pidgin? Gini?

Olu317:
Oh I see, you lived within urban Yoruba who had interchangeably use Agbado which literally mean maize. You seem to have failed again because you don't know much about Yoruba culture and food . In Yoruba land, We call rain ÒJÒ and Èji , the second one can hardly be known to YOU,except my exposing it to you at this moment. Yoruba in the rural speaks archaic Yoruba which you can hardly hear and calls OKA , Maize flour. In some places, it can also be used for White yam flour,which you know it with a different name. You will get lost if you think you can understand Yoruba because you fraternise with Yoruba city. You claimed, it is used among Ibos, It is a borrowed words from Yoruba land, just as Aso Ebi, “Igbo," were borrowed. Oka has been used in Yoruba land for centuries.

Oka's shared, not borrowed. Igbo oka and Yoruba oka derive from the same root word. Don't be talking nonsense.

aljharem:
Agidi and Oka are Igbo words

Egusi can never be igbo. Melon does not naturally grow in the east

Bean for moin moin does not grow in the East

What nonsense ?

It's nonsense that you don't know agidi and oka are used in Yoruba being the afonja supremacist you are.

Uma leaves because that's the original.