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dafman:
I still dey here. till una decide to go sleep. una no dey go work tomorrow sef. Aloib and me get something to discuss in private, so guys bedtime

wetin una get to discuss with my woman?  

doyin13:
But if I fall in,

and you kan be like Endurance Ojokolo

na Holy ghost fire I go call down for your head

i cant run because i'm with my property eh.

drop in on both of us?

aloib:
hahaha i don die ooo, which one be that doyin, hahahaha thats so far from tagalog, google failed u sha, lol
pth u understand yoruba, thank God i never curse u in yoruba before, na so my yansh for open, lmaoo

oh no, why didnt i shut up my mouth so you could curse me first?  

aloib:
kai, vows in yoruba would be so sexy, just imagine, hmmm, not yoruba wannabes sha, i'm just saying

dafman u hear so? oya go and find ur ngozi.

dafman:
I'm taking express lessons just a matter of days and we'll be saying our vows in yoruba

too late, at least 20yrs speaking experience required here.  

doyin13:
that's right

Too tall for you Richard III ass

tennis players are not eligible.

doyin13:
atayo tagg too nofkh gon rph t[ttpb patmho

Now PTH decipher that.

I too much abeg

lol that one na baby language, it means - pick pth, he is the best of the three.

@ doyin13, you be Ivo Karlovic?  

dafman, your lack of yoruba speaking skills has now disqualified you.  

you need doyin13's account to fund our marriage? good thinking girl.  

doyin13, dont decieve urself. o ro pe o le fi yoruba boju abi? awa na gbede o.  

how did u know i was buying a ticket for manila?

aloib u just want to disgrace me today abi? dont worry i know u're trying to be discreet. . .  

back off wetin I'm just trying to get the others to believe the opposite. We both know where we will be meeting tonite dont we?

doyin13:
Pth

e be like say u don see im pic before

shay she luscious?

i never take my eye see anything o. the damsel don talk ay na whitey she like sef.

i give u chance. . . dafman, the Lord is preparing another woman for me. . .

awwww aloib na wa o, u have forgotten that experience is the best teacher. . .

dafman, dont worry. your woman is on the way. Aloib is mine to take to mama. dont bother pursuing a lost cause.

shame on you doyin13, na only yago and chicken u fit produce?

come jare aloib, i'm the guy u've spent all ur life looking for. I'll cross 20 mountains for u and swim 16 rivers just to win ur love.

see this girl o, statement of account dey determine boyfriend now?

@ doyin13 u better find another chic o, after i don talk her back to black brothers u want to reap where u did not sow eh?

u no know before? She's a proper pinoy + naija.

Jerusalem is safe from the hands of the ottoman empire. For now we can breath easy until the hordes of allah wake up again.  

now its time to get aloib to give our black brothers another chance.

lol aloib cant complain of boredom again

oh ok, found a guy to keep you company now?

ahh seems aloib has finally over come her loneliness. i dey kampe jare.

but that seems to be her only option for now since all other black guys are off the radar for being heart breakers.

well she can always look up their pictures online for comfort

or unfortunately they dont like black women

maybe there are no white boys where she's vacationing.

@ Banderas, i'm not surprised at the sudden belligerence, the bible has indicated that light and darkness CANNOT co-existent. Darkness flees at the sight of light, that is exactly what you are doing.

Banderas:
OMG, I just read through your posts, and you know what, go ahead, and live your life, and enjoy it. It's hopeless trying to reason with you, you're as brainwashed as a suicide bomber. But you're NOT God. You preach a gospel you have no understanding of. You're no different from a suicide bomber who beleives Allah has instructed him to "sacrifice" his life for some weird cause. You're also a lazy person who doesn't want to think for himself, but is looking for someone else to think for him (consider the parable of the talents, you've buried your talent)

lol lol if i am brainwashed for Christ then so be it. I'm not complaining, i havent buried my talents dear i'm using them quite well. On the other hand it is you who has buried your talent and counted the blood of Christ as worthless. Please read the book of Hebrews - oh well you never read the bible. Best of luck.

Banderas:
And decode? You have decoded NOTHING about me, you make your impressions about me based on what you've gone through - not wise. You're like the pharisees who found fault with Jesus because he hung out with normal "unclean" people. And you speak about my conscience? Let me tell you now - the reason why you don't drink is because someone somewhere told you not to, not because the bible said you shouldn't (hello control)

you're as plain as a book even though you vehemently deny it. The You're trying to hide under the "o afterall Jesus hung out with unclean people" gambit does not hold water. Jesus Christ "hung out" with unclean people for the sole purpose of transforming them not to join them to eat, drink and sin.
lol i have been living on my own for the past 3 yrs, i work in an environment where i am exposed to cigarettes (i handle them almost daily) for the last 3 yrs, all except one of my work colleagues drink and yet i neither drink nor smoke. That doesnt count as doing it just to please dad and mum eh. Good excuse though. You wont have that alibi on the last day, enjoy wallowing in deciet.

Banderas:
And why, why do you think you understand my agreement with God? That is simply hilarious. It is YOU who doesn't have an understanding of God, you rely on what people tell you, you don't take time out to find out what God is saying to you and where he wants you to be. And you also judge others.

The bible is more than plain on this issue. If you claim to have an agreement with a different God then fine. But if you want to have an agreement/covenant with the God of the bible may it be known unto you that the bible is clear that THERE CAN BE NO TESTAMENT WITHOUT THE DEATH OF A TESTATOR (the book of hebrews). As long as you discontenance the blood of Jesus Christ you can not have a covenant with the biblical God. You can decieve yourself all u want.

Oh here we are with the "judging" card again. Very predictable.

Banderas:
My message? You have no clue what my message is. Your message on the other hand is this - I want to earn my way into heaven by living a perfect life. Every now and then I will look around and condemn anyone who doesn't live like me. My righteousness and holiness are the key - anyone who isn't holy can't make it. I will enter heaven with my eyes closed. I may as well retreat into a monastery, I don't want to live in this world again.

lol there are thousands of christians living wonderful God-centered lives who enjoy the good things of life today. I have a cousin who plays junior tennis all around the country and yet is a wonderful christian. Christianity as espoused by the bible does not condemn you to a life or purgatory but that is the excuse that you are pull out to continue wallowing in sin. Carry go abeg.

Banderas:
You know what PTH - your wrong and totally annoying tendency of describing me in a completely wrong manner (I don't think you're as smart as you think you are), is really getting to me. You judgemental attitude (Even Jesus didn't judge, but the pharisees, who you remind me off did) is far from inviting to me. Also, I want to go to bed - i have to work tomorrow. I wish you luck in your walk, I have made my choice, I have prayed about it.

even if i said things in a totally different manner it will still irritate you. What is irritating you is not the words i say but the fact tht your conscience is unconsciously pricking you and you hate it. You love your life as it is without the influence of the bible but you want to go to heaven. e no dey work like that o. You can ignore my words and read the bible for urself.
The Jesus Christ you claim did not judge called the pharisees serpents, hypocrites and whitened sepulchres for the very same sentiments that you exhibit here.
Keep praying to ur ceiling, as long as the bible remains the same God is not listening to you outside the saving power of His blood.

I dont need you to tell me how smart i am, i know what i am in christ Jesus. Sorry if it shows you up in a negative light. not my fault

Banderas:
And your accusations I find really really disgusting and irritating. How dare you accuse me of cherrypicking? Are you God? Since when do you know it all?

Accusations? lol It is the truth my dear. You cant hug the 10 commandments, decieve urself that you are actually living a Godly life and yet ignore the message of salvation. It is IMPOSSICANT. You can beat your head on the wall till tomorrow, you cant cherry pick the bible.

Banderas:
I say again - people like you are exactly what Paul preached against, you make it uneccesarily hard for outsiders to enter into the kingdom of God. Since when did you hold the keys to heaven and earth? I find your tone and posts unbelievably self-righteous, I didn't realise people like you still existed.

Not really. infact Paul's words are much worse than anything i can ever tell you here. Paul it was who claimed to have handed Alexander and his friend to the devil for blasphemy.
Salvation is not an easy jolly ride if not everyone on earth would be a christian. There are trials, temptations, tests, there are sacrifices, sometimes painful to bear, there is a cross to bear, the cross of being the laughing stock of ur friends because u wont do as they do, the road to heaven is not straight and wide like the gates to hell (that can accomodate everyone), it is narrow, winding, twisting and full of thorns. That is why very few want to enter into the kingdom of God. Because they cant bear to live a life outside of sin.

You talk about entering the kingdom of God and i ask again, which God? The one that transcends all religions? Did that God tell you he had a kingdom? Keep up your deciet?

Banderas:
Okay, that's it. By your delibrate misinterpretation of my posts, you have brought me to the end of my patience. Live your life, I'll live mine, oh Pharisee (By your fruits, I know you)

Thank you my brother, you taught me a lot that i can learn from even though you dont know it.

Banderas:
And now, now you preach to me (give it a shot).

you are at liberty to reject it but you have forever lost the chance to plead ignorance on the judgement day.

Banderas:
Here's how it is for me - I refuse to live by the law of the bible. I refuse totally to be controlled by the ability to stay away from sin. I drink beer because I see nothing in the bible that says I shouldn't, and because I have prayed about it.

Yeah, i decoded this a while ago. You choose to cherry pick the laws that sound like you can easily keep. There are many muslims who can beat their chest at having kept the 10 commandments, what then is the difference between the two of u? Will u be going to the same heaven?
You want to drink beer but since in your conscience you know that the biblical God condemns it you choose to hide under the umbrella of "putting God in my pocket". No problem dear, continue drinking.

Banderas:
Like you I am of the opinion that there is an acceptable code of conduct for a person who believes in God.

The problem is you are not at liberty to help God choose those acceptable codes of conduct. He has put His codes in the bible you have chosen not to read. Good luck.

Banderas:
PTH, you're losing me completely, that is my concern - you have an opinion of me which simply isn't the truth. My issues are not with christianity, they are more with some messages coming out of the church, and the way some people twist things to suit themselves and also to control other people.

Those messages do one thing, they convict you of sin but your sinful nature is not prepared to give up the life of unrighteousness. I dont blame you, there are times i wish i could just walk up to the nearest girl and take her home for the night but i know that one day i will pay for it so i choose not to. The choice dear Banderas is yours to make. You wont have an alibi on the last day.

Banderas:
And if you think I haven't made any sacrifices, you have me completely wrong. I have made my own sacrifices, based on conversations and agreements I've had with God.

lol you dont even have a well defined concept of the God you claim to have an agreement with. Can you have an agreement with someone who is not listening to you? The bible says - Jesus is the way the truth and the life NO ONE comes to the father but by Him.
How can you have an agreement with God outside salvation?

Banderas:
My message is not that christianity doesn't exist, or isn't relevant, my message is this - don't limit God to christianity. God is divine, not christianity. Christianity is merely a way of worshiping God, who are we to say there isn't any other?

your message is this dear Banderas - i want to live my life of sin free from the condemnation of the bible and God should be magnanimous enough to turn the blind eye, love me all the same, not have anything to do with my life and allow me to enter heaven.

Banderas:
Okay - to answer your questions:

I believe the 10 commandments are are pillars. I have observed them, prayed about them, and I can see that they make me a better person, while not interfering with other people's rights and lives.

You have finally confirmed my hunch - you want to believe in God and expect to go to heaven but dont want Him to interfere in your life. That my brother is impossible. Since you dont believe in the christian God whose commandments you hold so dear as pillars, who then do you claim to pray to? Is it possible to pray to another god over someone else's principles?
How do the 10 commandments make you better than someone who doesnt even know they exist but yet does not kill, respects his parents, does not steal and loves his neighbour?

Banderas:
However I refuse to agree that a man wearing long hair, or a woman wearing trousers is a sin. I fail to see how the bible has a say in that.

Again you are merely exposing your real reasons for not believing the God of the bible. You want the right to pick and choose what commandments to adhere to. Dear sir, that choice is not yours to exercise. With God, you either go 100% or you dont even bother about Him, it will be more girevous on the judgement day for those who KNEW and chose not to believe.
The interpretation of the scriptures is subject to the Holy spirit speaking to us. I personally see no issues with a woman who wears trousers, my parents are seriously against it but at the end of the day, the best we can do is pray and ask God to guide us to the right path.

Banderas:
Man, you make me laugh - what have I dumped? How do you accuse me so "confidently"of dumping the rest? How, from what I have typed have you been able to make this ernomous conclusion? You impress me, really you do. And where did I claim God didn't exist? PTH, have you even been reading my posts at all?

Banderas, lets not drag isues back and forth. You have your own concept of God and i have mine, what i know is that your concept of god is no where near the concept of the christian God even though you want to go to His heaven and cherry pick his laws that sound agreeable to ur spirit.
The 10 commandments are not the sole laws of the biblical God, infact after the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ those laws became obsolete. now they are no more mere words written on a slate but words engraved in our hearts by the Holy Spirit. We no longer have to memorise the laws and make a checklist of how many of them we have disobeyed, for now that we are born again we have the mind of Christ.

Banderas:
Here is what I will tell you for a fact, take it anyway you wish. There is NO WAY that the bible, a couple of thousand pages can contain the entire will and commandments of God, it is simply impossible. God over and above the bible. Yes, the bible contains some instructions from God, that in no way means that if I do stufff that isn't in the bible, I'm breaking God's rule.

You are right, God cannot be contained in the bible, that was why He thought it essential to come down in human flesh and die on the cross. Now He is no longer that unseen force in the sky but the still small voice, the gentle shepherd and friend who knocks at the door of our heart teaching us those things which we ought and we ought not to do.

Banderas:
Since when do you speak for God, oh PTH? and how do you know from where my inspirations and beleifs come from? Oh, let me guess, the holy spirit has revealed to you that I am not from God, and only what is in the bible is from God.

I dont speak for God, but he is clear in His word that by their fruits we shall know those who truly are His. A true child of God will NEVER disparage the significance of the bible.

Banderas:
Here's what I say - there are mysteries to God that human beings will find out after the last day, if this last day indeed is a "day" in the true sense of the word (which I totally doubt). Something else I'm not sure is a literal prophecy is the scripture.

You are very correct, but the little we know as is contained in the bible, let us strive to do them.

Banderas:
Now regarding never feeling that the bible is a tool of manipulation - I guess having a Naija background makes that easy. I have a mixed background, and I can tell you for sure, that for the part of my family that was once enslaved, christianity (as well as islam) was used to justify slavery. That is simply one aspect which I feel is rubbish, there are other interpretations and messages I have issues with.

This is nonsense and is simply a victims mentality purposely designed to keep you away from the truth of the scriptures. I have family members who have NEVER even been outside the USA in their lives who are much more sound christians than me. The beauty of the bible knows no boundaries but is available to those who open their hearts to it without making countless excuses.
The whites used the bible to justify racism. Read your bible urself, there is NOTHING in there that justified slavery or racism.

Banderas:
Here's what I say - YOU are the one who is trying to make a "pocket God", to limit God to your faith - and tell everyone else that there is no way but your way. I fear that a lot of christains have become exactly what pharisees were in the time of Jesus - self righteous bigots.

Not really. YOU are desperate to see God as a limitless being, a magnanimous God who you expect should have nothing to do with how u live ur life, a God whom you expect should turn a blind eye to your sins and still let u into heaven.
I have heard this line of argument several times before, "freethinkers" (who are nothing but sinners seeking excuses to continue living in sin) tell us that a merciful God shouldnt put everyone in hell despite the fact that they are not willing to acknowledge that God.

Here is the bottomline, whether i put God in my pocket or not, He lives by principles that He expects you and me to adhere to. However He has also given us the power of choice to decide what we want to do. Belief in God is not compulsory, i'd even suggest you not waste your time with the 10 commandments because on the last day it will stand in testimony against you if you die outside of salvation.
The pharisees religiously held unto the 10 commandments during the time of Jesus yet He still called them hypocrites and whitened sepulchres. Spare urself the trouble.

Banderas, trust me you're not the only one who has been at this crossroads. Even me who grew up with ultra-conservative christian parents once toyed with the idea of quiting religion totally. My dad was extremely strict, we never got to watch TV until we were 12 yrs old, even then we couldnt watch movies that our friends watched, we rarely got to attend birthday parties or go sightseeing with our friends. Home was like a prison and all i remember we ever did was pray, read the bible and go to church.

I thought christianity was a prison, i wondered why a God who claimed that He came to set us free could simply have come to put us in a cage. You couldnt discuss girls with my parents and not having sisters made issues even worse. The first time i had a girlfriend i didnt even know what to do or say!   I didnt like God, i didnt want to read His bible, i saw it as boring, tedious and only present as a scourge that parents use to cage their children. I saw so-called christian families fight at home and then smile outside claiming to all and sundry that the Lord was good when they'd just had a boxing contest the night before.

Even now that i live alone, i still fight with the concept of God and his principles. I want the freedom to go out with my friends to the club, i dont want to look like an idiot each time we go for dinner and my colleagues laugh me in the face for refusing to drink beer, i hate it when others can go to clubs and pick girls and i cant because i remember what the bible says. BUT when i began to look at things a little better i realised a major difference, God IS love, His intention was not to put me in a prison but to make me enjoy life even more by making the right life choices. I am not a saint dear Banderas and i dont claim to know it all. I cant tell u that my walk with God is perfect, No. But i will NEVER leave the God of the bible, for i have seen His hands, i have heard His voice, i know He wants the best for me and now i know that all He asks is that i be patient, trust Him and learn to let Him take control of my life.

He is real, He demands sacrifice from us but He understands that we are frail and that is why He has sent His son to die for us that through His spirit we may have the strength to take the right decisions according to His will.

Give it a shot Banderas.

After 6 masters events its :

Nadal - 3
Djokovic - 2
Federerer - 1

The masters cup in Shanghai would be a massive event if everyone stays fit.

ah we thank God, Novak is improving on hard court so fast its frightening.

@ doyin13, Nadal has improved his serve, i was pleasantly surprised to see him serving aces against Djoko yesterday and he was flawless on first serves in his game against Dancevic in the quarter finals.

Djoko's ability to return serves is amazing, his defence too is improving that was why he was able to beat Nadal yesterday. There were some times Nadal was not expecting him to get to some shots and he did.