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bros, no blame me o. i must watch the Manure team beat Reading and then i have work to attend to.

Bench Lehman for Almunia now! that mistake put arsenal under pressure for the entire game.

Lampard has never been a good player from day 1 bar his predilection for deflected goals, shots and penalties.

rikkyjen:
Dayummmmmmmmm, Fulham waz fleeced!! How did 'em gunners scored those 2 goals late. words said the ref gave the gooners 5 mins of extra time which kain thing be that?

both arsenal goals were scored in regulation time.

acidrop:
which PTH, the one that just admitted to his wowolity

just shut up for good. you make so much noise considering your just another very ugly child with plenty of time on her hands. if you were that good why is ur picture no longer on here instead replaced by a fake picture thus creating a false impression of what u really look like?

I dont look like omarion but thank God those who know me (i mean real adults not children like you) appreciate the handiwork of God so please spare me ur noise making.

didnt see the chelsea game but Arsenal sure gave me a fright. How do we let average teams like Fulham dictate play against us?

doyin13:
I don't know for how long Nadal will be no two on grass. Djokovic can overtake him on that surface, because it is quick enough to negate Nadal's speed.

Both need to upgrade their serve tho to challenge Federer.

that's not true, the grass is as slow as clay now giving Nadal the upper hand. It was clear from the earlier matches that Nadal was not altogether very comfortable on hard court yet. Djokovic is definitely number 2 on hard courts.

This will be another easy masters win for Federer. Lets see what Cincinatti holds.

Paw-Paw:
@PTH
Why you no buy your brother TV instead of phoning him from America to tell him what is happening in Abeokuta. This is the problem I have with Nigerians in diaspora. Instead of buying your brother a Television, you would rather phone him from america to read him NTA news. This is beyond belief.

what a tool. the last time i checked where my brother was staying the had a giant Tv set. You cant blame him for not seeing the news, NEPA dey? The guy never see money to take chop garri you dey ask am to watch the news?

@tayoD, wetin you want make i add again? spot on!

Christino, you have spent a great deal of time essentially saying the same thing over and over again, repeating false propaganda, perpetuating revisionist history exposing how little you know about christianity.

Christino:
He came that we might have eternal life not to bring us a religion that would result in homicide,pain, hardship and ultimately HELL!!! We named it Christianity and made business out of it, and condemned people out of it. Yes.

It is FALSE to subtly imply that christianity has resulted in homicide, pain, hardship and hell. Even before Christ came all these had been going on. With or without christianity man's greed, intolerance and unbelief would still have led to the above.

Christino:
Thank God you mentioned this, though there were Deacons and Bishops in the bible, who lived up to their rep, worthy men of God. There is no point pointing out Jesus' mission to me, the argument here is the fabrication of Christianity which Jesus did not bring in the first place, and the use of the word "Christianity" so justify our "personal interests" as church goers or so-called Shepherds. I'm not picking on denominations in particular but we have more crap than sense nowadays. The Mormons, the witnesses, the Assumption, the White Garment the this and that, I run down big time.

there are fake naira notes in circulation, it does not invalidate the fact that the original still exists and is legal tender.

Christino:
Nope you grew up into a different christianity, where pastors buy the biggest jets and there's more emphasis on Malachi than any other part of the bible. Tithes, oFfering, Prosperity (hardly ever salvation) and all that, and most of all, they did not bow down to the pope but the bow down on SUNDAYS the day of the Roman god of SUN, man, this isn't the same Christianity. They did not dance in the church of God, never!!! They did not worship on sundays, they kept the sabbath holy, where in the bible did Christ ask us to worship on a sunday when he Christ worshiped on Saturday?(the 7th day?)

Buying of jets
Again, as with every thing genuine there is always a fake. there is no point tarring everyone with the same brush. The increase in the prosperity gospel is merely a reflection of the socio-economic times that we live in. Surely it was not this bad in the 1970s.

Worship on sundays
Sunday was chosen by the roman catholic church as the day of worship. Whether the day was meant as a day to worship the sun god is irrelevant and to claim that christians worship the sun god by worshipping on sunday is ingenius and smacks of lazy intellectualism. Yes Christ did not worship on sunday but no where is it established that He worshipped on the sabbath day.
The sabath was a Jewish custom that every jew including Jesus Christ Himself had to keep, it does not mean that He specially set aside that day in order to worship, infact the pharisees and sadducees were angry at Him for daring to heal a man on that same day.
- there is no strict guidelines on particular days of worship, sunday is only the day all christians gather to worship as a group. every individual christian worships God on a daily basis.
- the gentiles (timothy and co) obviously did not keep the sabbath as it was a jewish custom, which day do u think they worshipped?

Christino:
These apostles gave their all, they moved from place to place, unlike the apostles of nowadays who sit in one BIG EDIFICE!!! Church is business now don't even get me started!

should we now throw the baby out with the bath water simply? There are 419 Nigerians who are tarnishing our image, should we then jail every single nigerian?

Christino:
If you worship on sunday, let me tell you the truth, it is the Pope's institution, his legacy and you are merely KISSING HIS ARSE, if not prove me wrong.

this is outright nonsense. Sunday is the generally accepted day of worship for all christians, it is no hard and fast rule. You are free to worship whenever you like. Almost every christian family i know observes a family altar, they don't wait for sunday to do so.

Christino:
I don't expect anyone to agree with me but i've always hated religion since 1998 and i tell people, I HAVE NO RELIGION!!!

very acceptable, you hate religion should not give you the liberty to spread blasphemy that has no legs to stand on. Perhaps you shld also busy yourself with asking why the muslims worship only on friday. whose arse are they kissing? Perhaps its just more politically correct to attack christianity because we don't burn and threaten those who slander us.

Christino:
You are acting like you don't know what happened afterall, you musta heard of the apocrypha and all that crap, no legitimacy for the pope, but like the forceful spread of Islam,  don't get me started  

this has no merit at all.

Christino:
And who the heck were the early missionaries? Protestants  , the first schools, the slave trades, western education and beliefs? RCCG  

of what relevance is this hyperventilation? That some whites chose to use christianity as cover for their racist beliefs now invalidates christianity?

Christino:
The crusaders, Constantine and all o that bulldung? Hey man, you should know by now that referring to the Pope in the bible don't really make that much sense. Ceaser then was obviously Roman and so were the Roman rulers who in their time Jesus was crucified, little did they know they would someday become the HQ of modern Xtianity. We all know how much the Romans and the Greeks loved Myths, and can you please exlain why Egypt with so much history with such gods and civilization is a full-blown Islamic country? LECTURE MOI, si vous plait!!!

Reading this further confirms my hunch that you are simply ignorant of the facts.
- maybe you should go and study the crusades a lot more. It was a defensive war to reclaim christian lands that had been conquered by the muslims. Spare us the revisionist crap you all spew out when you really have nothing else to say,

- Egypt like most other nations outside the middle east that are predominantly muslim today was overrun by the arabs in the 7th century AD. Infact archeological evidence points to the fact that the ancient Egyptians were black and have no relation whatsoever to the present day Arab egyptians who are but usurpers and land grabbers. But for the crusades, nations like Spain would be arab enclaves today.

Christino:
Are you then ready to return to the time of the apostles? To the old time religion? To the jewish worship and the respect of the holy sabbath? (You wisely ignored the question of the sunday worship - sure you know why the papacy moved worship to sunday- do you still worship on the day the pope has made? )

again an exhibition of ignorance. You mix up the apostolic faith with judaism that Jesus Christ and the apostles were firmly against as man made rules and regulations that could not bring salvation of the soul. The holy sabbath has no place in christianity. Please read the teachings of Paul on the sabbath instead of running away with hearsay propaganda.
I and other christians everywhere worship every single day of our lives, sunday is only a symbolic day when we all gather to worship AS A GROUP.

Christino:
Thanks Dave, I concur u are a brain, but this one, you need to go a step further and "make things clear".Expecting your reply 2moro. Happy Sunday to you and Happy Sabbath to all the old time faithfuls as well.

if you wish anyone a happy sabbath it shld be the jews.

olanajim:
This is Africa, not Europe. We must never forget that. So it is best to be prepared for any eventuality.

you have a point and at the same time you don't. This are no hard and fast rules that have to be adhered to by everyone, every couple does what suits them. Your wife is not your servant so i don't expect her to spend her time kneeling down for me, she's a partner not a househelp. Respect is not only when she's on her knees, its in the way she talks to you, treats you and in how she respects her marital vows.

To the issue of whether to call by name or not. I don't think this is an issue that really warranted another long and meaningless thread. during the last real "marriage is a possibility" relationship i was in, i never called my girlfriend by her first name, i simply gave her a pet name the first day we met and it stuck. she even started refering to herself by that name after a few weeks. She on the other hand used my first name from day 1 to the last day.
Its all about preference, i call her a pet name not out of respect but because that is the way i chose to do so. she called me by my first name, it didnt diminish the fact that she respected me throughout and far far better than girls who were busy kneeling down for their bfs.

I will always maintain that the seeds of discord in a relationship are sown the very day your wife/girlfriend is not 120% comfortable to completely express herself in your presence. If she can't bang a pillow on another man's head at least she should be able to bang yours.

BABEELOVE:
Sexually frustrated he goat!!!! Please now that you have been noticed, try and get laid tonight so we can rest from your tantrums!!!

way to go girl! u're doing great, dont let up. We want more!

7-5, 6-3 Djokovic! Great game, Djokovic played so well, at least Nadal is warming up for the US open. He's much harder to beat in best of 5 matches.

its almost over. Djoko serving for the match. Nadal is number two on grass, number 1 on clay but number 3 on hard court.
3 match points to Djoko.

Today is turning out to be my sad day. . . Djoko is up 7-5 in the first set. second set remains on serve.

no point arguing with you. Carry on in your blindness, like i prefaced earlier, even the bible makes it more than plain that the things of the spirit cannot be understood by mere mortals.
There's no point arguing, you are not forced into christianity. You can as well remain atheist or as u say a god. no one is begrudging u.

Dios:
@PTH, you're a typical christian, can't you see the contradiction? You said believers go to heaven when they die, then you claim they rise first on judgement day.
Seriously, do you think that makes any sense at all? ?Finally don't bring up any claims of spritual blindness, because that arguement is real pathetic.

it cant make sense to you. When the dead rise again they will take up their earthly bodies so we that are alive and remain can SEE them. You cant see a spirit my guy!

the dead in Christ are those that died as believers.

You can never get it, for the things of God are foolishness unto those who are spiritually blind.

denex, continue following american tragedies.

Nadal and Djokovic is on the way. My heart is in my mouth as i think Djoko will win this game in 2 sets.

freakazoid abi na babeelove. . . sorry that no one recognises you or notices your presence. Perhaps ur crass, repugnant and disgusting attitude is the problem and not really me.

@ islander . . . thank you very plenty! Plenty of milking for u! You more than deserve it.

Dios:
Ok, help me out here, because it seems that y'all christians want to eat your cake and have it.
When someone dies, y'all say he/she's gone to be with your lord. Ok, I thought these people ain't supposed to see the lord until judgement day, "when the dead shall rise" Seriously, help me out!!!!!!!!!!!!

you dont need any help, you are only here to kick up more dust.

When christians die they go straight to heaven while the sinner goes to hell. Several accounts of people who have been to both sides after death is available to read. No where did the bible ever say no one will see the Lord until judgement (its another islamic lie propagated by those who dont even understand if they will ever see their so-called lord ever).
The dead in Christ rise first on the judgement day because that is when we who are alive on that day will be able to see them for the first time since they died.

Ok help me out here too, are all muslims going to hell?

dont sweat it babeelove, shouting wont make you noticed. it only makes you even more repugnant. Carry on with your uncouth yelling.

Hillary Clinton for the Bill factor.

omoge:
jegola my brother,

since oyinbos always carry news of whatever happens in Nigeria, shouldn't nigeria (n) do the same? at least people not in nigeria are aware of what's happening there (thanks to the oyinbo media). People overseas are more aware of happenings in nigeria than an average nigerian living there.

lol, there was a flood in Abeokuta a few weeks ago. it was on BBC news, my brother had no clue even though he lives in Lagos!

lol talkin gof peddling allegories. it is not malicious intent to inform you that collapsed buildings in Lagos now take place so frequently that we are no longer shocked neither are we surprised when newly commissioned bridges collapse. We are now used to our own ineptitude.

BABEELOVE:
This dude is really a natural-born hater!!! Arm chair terrorist!!! You think living in America [b]is a reason to be igno[/b]rant

pray miss tell me where i have exhibited ignorance. And like i said earlier, try and show some class. typing in capitals and with exclamation marks is equivalent to shouting. Is this the way you behave in real life?

lol natural born hater eh? nice new moniker. You shld notice that i hardly ever notice pple like you until u deliberately attempt to engage my attention while making a fool of urself in the process. sorry i dont suffer fools gladly.

babs787:
Please do send them. Are sites not supposed to add to knowledge? Why are you denying what can't be denied. If you want to deny the above link, please try to deny some missing verses in other versions but present in KJV.

all your sites add no knowledge but simply perpetuate the lies, contradictions, revisionist history and calculated misrepresentation of facts that has for long been lifeline for islam.

babs787:
Let me have the verses that supports his crucifiction and resurrection.

lol more of ur games. you claim Jesus was not crucified, i ask you to let me know the facts that led you to such blasphemy and u are back asking me to provide verses? Keep playing ur roundabout game. It is typical of islam.

babs787:
Your post amuse me. You may go to chapter 3 and chapter 5 to read about Jesus. You are running out of time and I do hope you know that. You can't play games with BABS.

when you came up with ur distortion of the biblical meaning of "works", i brought specific verses that dealt with the salient points to support my argument, all i ask is that you do likewise and stop all these dribbling around with "go and read chapter 3 and 5". who has time to go rummaging through that book of lies?

babs787:
Is Jesus a christian and did he preached christianity? Are the pictures really that of Jesus?

the same old recycled questions. The believers where called Christians BECAUSE THEY ACTED AND TAUGHT LIKE CHRIST. Simple as ABC! No one in the bible built a church and named us all christians. that is the name we all adopt.
And of what relevance are the validity of the pictures of Jesus? Is anyone worshipping them or did we tell u we needed them?

babs787:
Let me have the verses please.

when i have urs. You have failed on at least 4 threads to produce either verses from the quran or bible, rather choosing to produce spurious websites, dribble around issues and lie.

babs787:
Is Jesus God?

i thot there was a thread on this before. Go there and find ur answers.

babs787:
Brother don't beat about the bush, are all his letters inspired and I will tell you more about who Paul is?

ur game of answer me i ask you isnt going to work here. if you have "facts and evidence" show us or else keep quiet!

babs787:
No where we have it that its the first thing unless you want to give it your own meaning. The verse says 'for GOD so love the world that he gave his only begotten son that whosoever believes in Him will not perish but have everlasting life.

dont be a such an ignorant oaf! Salvation comes first before you talk of works of faith. Read James 2 very well, he was talking to believers who were already saved and not sinners. Believing on Jesus is the way to heaven but you cannot claim to be the son of a tiger and yet eat grass like a sheep. Once you are born again you are bound to exhibit traits of your new found status in Christ. That is what James had in mind when he talked about works. Not the self righteous worthless sacrifices that muslims make every year that cannot cleanse them from sin.

babs787:
Where was it mentioned. He told you that faith without work is useless as against john 3 v 16 and other verses that lay emphasis on believing alone as a means of getting salvation. James is telling you that you must not only believe with your mouth (john 3 v 16) but must work too to gain paradie.

ur problem is you have muddled up the "work" that James is refering to. He is not refering to fruitless works of trying to attain to righteousness by your own means.

babs787:
I will be bringing out where you might have flawed as we proceed. You are adding yours to it, the bible never gave all those stories of yours.

where is your own explanation from ur quran, or has it nothing to say on this subject as pertaining to muslims too?

babs787:
Your explanation is flawed.

then lets have urs sir.

babs787:
Brother stop going in the opposite direction. Forget the issue of tolerant or intolerant society. Can a christian believer who lives in a very conducive, tolerant environment, believes in the death, resurrection of jesus but never goes to church go to Heaven? Not because he doesnt have time bnut never believes in going to church.

Yes. it depends on the circumstances. It is rare to see a genuine born again christian who prefers not to go to church. Notice i mention GENUINE not just every person who claims to be a christian. The bible says by their fruits ye shall know them.
But if you cant have fellowship due to understandable circumstances then have fellowship with ur family at home. many of us did such during the biting fuel scarcity periods.

Paul and the other apostles had fellowship with the brethren and broke bread in their homes too.

babs787:
Okay are you saying that it is not compulsory to be attending church?

u must have a problem with comprehension. how many times will u recieve an answer for this very question?

I notice you have since mischievously kept quiet about the "was he called Jesus during His time" question eh.

babs787:
Point of correction, muslims are expecting jesus as you are. you are expecting him to come like a thief in the night, raptures but we are expecting to be the sign of the hour, he will come and live like normal being and die a normal death and will let you know that he want crucified nor a God etc.

No one is begrudging you the use of Jesus coming as another of ur islamic false flights of fancy. My question is simple, when did you all start claiming to suddenly be expecting the coming of Jesus "as the sign of the hour"? sign of which hour? When did that enter islamic lexicon?
Where in the QURAN and HADITH did allah specifically claim he was sending Jesus to you?

babs787:
We are not expecting jesus having the pictures you have been potraying but obedint servant of Allah.

Continue decieving urself. Show us where this is claimed in your fraudulent quran.

babs787:
We are not expecting Jesus that died for your sin, killed, hanged or crucified but a servant that was miraculously saved by his creator.

yeah keep up the islamic charade.

babs787:
We are not expecting a three in one God, God in human form, God that prayed to himself, God that was afraid of death etc but a servant of God that served one God and not three and believed that there is someone above him that he must worship.

show us from the quran, surely if allah was sending Jesus he should have taken care to have it documented in his quran eh?

babs787:
Is there any problem in bearing names of prophets?

none whatsoever. Here is the conundrum, if as you claim the name Jesus was not what Jesus Christ was bearing in His time, whence did muslims get the name Isa that they now bear and claim desperately to be a prophet of allah?

babs787:
Please I want you to clarify the above for me. Are you saying Jesus' meaning is different from Immanuel?

you are not 5yrs old. the name Jesus is different from the name Immanuel, both have distinct meanings. Are you saying your first name and middle name have the same meaning? Siince when did it become an islamic crime to bear more than 1 name or where camest your confusion of heart?

babs787:
Let me give you a clue, a chapter called him Immanuel instead of Jesus and your response is saying that Jesus can never be both. Dont contradict yourself like I do say.

Jesus Christ was also Immanuel just the same way Obasanjo also bears , Olusegun, Aremu and Okikiola. If his son chooses to refer to him as Aremu does he cease to become Olusegun?

babs787:
Clever response . Do we have the word 'Jesus' in the Greek bible because there was no letter "J" until the 15th century?

hence my answer, where did Mohammed then get his own version of Jesus from?

There were no letter J's in the 15th century does not mean it did not exist. Yashua in hebrew is the same as Jesus. the hebrews sometimes used the letter "y" to represent the letter "j".
Yahweh is another example.

Afam:
The content in bold refers abeg houses do not fall everyday in Lagos, enough of the lies and misinformation.

i agree. the frequent incidences of collapsed houses in Lagos are only figments of my imagination.

The willingness of hypocrites like u and denex to sieze on allegories as a tool for grandstanding is first class.

babs787:
We all knowthat he is the founder of modern christianity and the originator of confusion. Where did the letters expose what you have been saying or you meant his letters that contradicted Jesus's teachings in order to bring religion to the gentiles?

Are all his letters inspired?

nah, that is what muslims are desperate for everyone to believe because his very letters are a threat to the credibility of islam and all it purports to stand for.

babs787:
Please I need further clarification. Are you still saying that work is useless?

ur penchant for mischief is legendary. I defined TWO (2) distinct forms of the biblical definition of the term "works", you clung to the first definition only to come to the conclusion that i claimed that works is useless? Did you even read down to number 2?

babs787:
If you are saying that work referred to here are: love, kindness etc. Please can you shed more light on John 3 v 16 that says if you believe, you will have eternal life. The verse made us known that if you believe in Jesus, salvation is yours while James is saying that faith (believing in him alone) will not guarantee you salvation but with work.

It is very easy except to a blind muslim. See it this way, to be a student you must go to class, wear uniforms and write term exams. But you must pass an entrance exam before you can be matriculated as a student at all. You cant wear a uniform and claim to be a student when you have not written ur entrance exam neither can you go home and sleep, claiming to be a graduate simply because you passed the entrance exam.

It is the same thing in the spiritual, salvation is ur entrance exam. What qualifies you to be a student is not only to pass the exam but that you indeed attend classes and pass your exams to be promoted to the next class. Works of faith is what defines you as a christian just like exams define u as a student.
John 3:16 talks of the first thing a prospective student has to do to be admitted into school - salvation.
James 2 talks of those attributes that qualify a student to identify himself as a student of the school to which he has been admitted.

babs787:
Sure but what do you have to say to John 3 v 16 and other verses in relation to getting slavation through believing in jesus alone, which I will giving you as we proceed.

pls read above.

babs787:
Pastor. Is that your own translation of that verse? Please I have always told you to be very careful when dealing with babs because you may contradict yourself as we move on.

what is ur own translation?

babs787:
So in a nutshell, faith and work must go together but not as in john 3 v 16 and 1st john too.

explained above.

babs787:
I am not referring to earthly salvation but heavenly one. Can a christian believer gain paradise without going to church. Can one believe claim to be a christian believer without having anything to do with church. Can one that believes in jesus be doing his praising and worshipping at home without having anything to do with the church?

there where no churches before the day of pentecost, surely those that died believing in Christ Jesus went straight to heaven. If a christian has no choice but to work in a "tolerant and peaceful" country like Saudi Arabia where bibles are banned and churches are a felony punnishable by death then God certainly understands and such an one will still go to heaven.
The bible does not in any way claim that merely going to church is ur passport to heaven, the way to heaven is clear - salvation!

The bible only advises that where there are certainly opportunities to attend church then it is for ur own spiritual benefit that you go there.

BABEELOVE:
Mitt Romney-----------the only thing that looks like a "presidential" material. Tall, handsome and articulate!!!!! Too bad he is a "GOP" member!!!! If only he was a "DEM"!!!

Otherwise, will have to settle for Hilary Rodham Clinton!!! Just because I will like to see "Bill" sleep in the White House again!!! What a terrific couple.

as usual, plenty of bleating and very little sense made. Mitt Romney for president simply because he is tall and handsome?
You live in Nigeria and you are here bleating about GOP and DEM membership as if you have any clue what they mean.

Hillary for president so Bill can come sleep in the whitehouse because they make a terrific couple? The amount of dense material we get to read on these boards is amazing.

wendymanda:
I might be wrong but I doubt America will elect a black, Obama, or female, Hillary Clinton, president anytime soon. Again I might be wrong on this.

the elections is pretty much between Obama and Clinton. Americans will not put a republican back into office so the democratic primary is as good as the general elections. Just wait and see, though i think Clinton will just nick this one, she has Bill on her side.