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Mhhhh call someone "Dad" or "Daddy" ... well ... I feel I have some sexual connotation ... I do not think that's necessary ...

Joagbaje: We are not discussing tithes here. But the doctrine of giving and receiving . And for your information , tithing wasnt a Jewish affair but a principle based on the bible like others such as faith, prayer,worship offerings,, etc. They all pre existed the Jewish law and the Jewish nation. And there's never a place in the bible where God put an end to it or them. I don't like to enter debate on tithe . Let everyone be convinced in his own mind.

You have brought here the subject of tithing.
You know that tithes were paid offerings (grains, oils) that were burned in hulocausto honoring God.
Tithing, as shepherds crooks charge, is simply a robbery ...
In Malachi, God punishes with tithing, pastors Levites, because they had stolen from God ...
The Gentiles have never paid tithe.
Now, returning to the theme ...
Asking a Pastor not turn your church into a profit-making enterprise is difficult ... Why?
Because the pastor knows he is stealing ... all pastors who charge tithe and pressuring the faithful to pay, they know they are stealing ... Jesus never did that ...
Unfortunately, there are many idiots who believe in the lies of the shepherds, and let stolen.

PAGAN 9JA:
great write up Ptolemus and thank you. btw wow i heard Abimbola's wife, the high priestess of the temple of Shango, is healthy and alive at the age of 110!

Right.
Nothing I can say to his wife ... Abimbola did not seem such an old man ... in fact I think he was born in 1932, so it was about 80 years ...
I really want to meet him one day, and ask why he did that? Why he spat on the most sacred.
I wanted him to explain to me ...
He has done a lot of damage ....
Currently, it is difficult to speak seriously of worship IFA, it is difficult to have credibility, it is something that something that lost its essence ...
Thank you for your words of friendship.
You are a very intelligent person and worthy of the utmost respect!
A hug!

Fulaman198: Wow excellent write up Ptolomeus, you always contribute great things, and for that I am grateful. Thank you very much hero!

Dear friend:
It is I who should be grateful to you.
Thank you for accepting me despite being abroad for giving me your friendship, excuse my bad English, and for letting me feel your friend despite the distance.
I always read your always insightful comments.
A sincere hug!

Fulaman198: I am not a "tribalist" or "someone who is only for my ethnic group." I am a "traditionalist" aka someone who wants indigenous cultures to remain the same and have no outside influence from Western cultures. I think that is what you are. When you use the word "tribalist" it is almost like saying you care only for yourself and for your people.

For example, many cultures in West Africa and Africa in general have become or are becoming Westernized (Igbos, Yoruba, SOME Hausa (mainly Nigeria)), Kikuyus in Kenya, Bamakan/Bambara in Mali/Senegal, Lingala peoples of Congo/Rwanda etc.) I am for Africans not having any sort of Western influence whatsoever. In fact, when I see Westerners from Europe or the Americas going to study the various kinds of Fulani people (Tukulor, Wodaabe and other Mbororos, Jelgobe, Gowabe, Liptaako, Fulakunda, etc. etc.) I get very angry because often these Westerners are studying us as if we are lab rats.

They may think they are doing a good thing, but in reality, they are not. They are exposing our culture(s) to the Western world. More and more each day you are seeing Westerners going to ancient lands of Africa (like Timbuktu for Festival in the desert) or Agadez/Chad border to witness Wodaabe Gerewol. This makes our cultures more Westernized.

I can go on all day about this, but what I want you to do is to start calling yourself a "traditionalist" someone who is for the preservation of Traditional culture worldwide and not a "tribalist." It has a bad tone to it.

Dear friend:
The thread is interesting, but the thread is being distorted to some unwise interventions.
I totally agree with you.
It seems that the "acculturation" that prevailed in colonial Africa was not enough ...
I just read a thread brother PAGAN , regarding the sale of traditional African relics ...
One can understand that for four centuries, the colonialists in Africa kept their chains .... what can not be understood, and can not be accepted, is that Africans themselves deliver their story.
Uan perlamas added to an excellent presentation:
In the early 90's, many "sharks" for purely economic tried to "invent" the office of Iyaonifá in the cult of IFA.
Wonde Professor Abimbola (representative to the diaspora) opposed terminantement, based on the foundations and traditions of worship, disqualifying the scoundrels who tried to profit by changing the traditions that had hundreds of years and thousands of reasons.
Then, Abimbola, for political reasons, to UNESCO, changed his mind ... and validated by Iyaonifa ...
Abimbola and his henchmen have kicked his assh for hundreds of years of culture, tradition and rationale ... the need albajo price ....
brother ...
Immorality and delivery of culture, not only among the people ... for people like you and me ...
Also available in the "high orbits of government and their own culture" ...
Well ...
Knowing the problem is a way to begin to fix it.
My greatest respect!

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Anonymous6?
Well ...
You (as often) has hit the mark.
$ 300 seems to be the price of history, culture and traditions ...
The colonialists banned robbed and traditions, and identity ....
Possibly the most painful are those intangible things that they stole ...
But I'm totalmnte agree with you ... this is also part of history and African identity.
Brother ... it is true that the reality is that many Africans have lost their identity, and face west with admiration, thanks to the ignorance imposed on them.
But it is also true that there are (we are) few, who are aware of these felonies that occur even in the XXI century ...
I fully support your proposal. We have to denounce, to publish Ambio in national and international outrage such cultural.
We look at what happened with pain since the eighteenth century, but today, four centuries later, the exploiters and the exploited are the same!
My respects to you!.

Beautiful!.
As always, your interventions denote a deep respect and affection for African traditions ... and especially to his beloved people!.
That should be an example to many, that unfortunately they have forgotten the identity of its own origin and that of their ancestors ...
Dear Friend, Please accept my admiration and my affection for you and your beautiful town! ...
Hopefully, your example will be followed by many, for the good of Africa and of all men and women of good will in the world!
A hug!

Please
excuse my ignorance, but someone could explain what they have in common with the cult Ogboni:
"1. CMS (Church Missionary Society) Then Known as Anglican
2. I Baptist church (Wesleyans then)
3. the Salvation Army Church
4. the Baptist church "?

PAGAN 9JA:
i am not soft brother. diamond cuts diamond, if you know what i mean. .

Lol, yes, it's understood ... of course!
Here we say "stick and stick" (palo y palo!) lol!

A worthy Christian pastor.
He collects tithing, do not pay wages, labor is free, travels around the world (no doubt in his private jet) and several sheep may have to be bathed, so dry and dress ...

Meanwhile, the fools tithe paid in denying a piece of bread to their children ...
The pastor deserves to live in opulence, and the idiot deserves to live in need.
Aleluiah

PAGAN 9JA:
i hate posts about christianity because they are so dull, boring, huge paragraphs and filled with senseless quotations from some gad-damn book.

Do not hate friend ... rather, we pity them.
They have problems with thinking ... inconsistencies parrot taught by Pastor ...
If the Christian God existed, he would be the first to condemn them!

MacDaddy01: hola!


I understand!

Hola!
is a miracle that they understand LOL!
Un abrazo!

Bélla3: AND GOD, hardened the heart of Seun, and he said amongst his cheif moderator and moderators. 'if we allow these children of the light to go on their own, they will only get stronger'. So Seun said no! They must remain wit us so that they wil continue to be weak. Yes! No section for the 'children of light'

NAIRALAND 1:18(Bella version)

Lol, there is no need for christain section, because, we wil continue to grow from strength to strength.

I do not hate the Christian message.
Simply, posts like that cause me great pain.
I am appalled by the poverty of intelligence, are sections of the path of those who say it's your guide (Jesus) and his sickly fanaticism and aggressive.
Not agree even among the various sects of Christianity ... fight each other ...
They are sick of hate ... therefore generally rejected.
Do not follow the doctrine of Christ follow the doctrine of hatred taught the pastor.
One day you will see that the god they believed defense, who will condemn them to hate your neighbor, and morbid fanaticism.

I'm not an atheist.
But the only arrogant, bigoted and cowardly, many Muslims and Christians on the forum.
The blind bigotry and attack any time to all others.

Rich4god: One thing i know for sure about the catholic church is that they dont do adverts like other churches and they dont lay emphasis on paying of tithe (i didnt say they dont pay)... So where you got your theories from is what i dont know.

Who do not pay?
Well, just wait.
Come in, sit down and looks ...

There are no coincidences.

http://www.kkk.com/
Pastor Thomar Robb

More Christians racist ...

ogajim: Brother viaro, I thought we agreed that you were extremely LUCKY to worship where you do, try a Nigerian Church in the UK or USA and let me know if you still feel the same way not to talk of the "Modern Churches of Nigeria limited" that litters Nigeria these days.

The "old" Churches don't focus everything/Sermon on the dollar

There are many abuses.
I know the situation of a young woman who could not pay tithes, and the pastor was required to pay with se.x.
I do not think that is biblical, not think that's God.
Many pastors do secretly like, or even worse.
I believe Satan has won the majority rule of the churches.

Kenyaphilia: [size=18pt]I love Israel[/size]
For me any country that can neutralize Arab arrogance and terrorism is a candidate for love and in that area Israel has a stellar record. 90% of Kenyans LOVE Israel....but they made a BIG mistake supporting Apartheid even if it was for geopolitics.
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Are you a Jew or a slave of the Jews?
Israel is not racist?
You try to enter Israel. Basically if you are black, will make a warm and memorable welcome ...
Slave mentality.
It has no cure.

Acidosis: let T.B Joshua and the wise men, Pastor Irene of S.Africa or any other "anoited MOG" lay hands on you, I swear you go dance alanta. .with your clothes lying flat on the ground.

The only thing that Joshua and his henchmen could lay their hands on someone, would be to steal.
In the only place they put their hands, is in the pocket of fools.
Unethical!

Rich4god: My bros... I seem not to understand what you mean...

Simple.
Catchment of fools by the pastor.
This ensures the collection of tithes ...

PAGAN 9JA:
because Basque and corse are not the same tribes as 2000 years ago. it isn now only a linguistic based group.

and finally, europe has lost all her tribes (except the Sami) after the advent of christianity by 800 A.D. and so today have lost their original cultures and religions. europeans still refer to their ancestral ethnic groups as tribes. Examples are the Saxons, visigoths, Franks,, Germanic tribe (Angles, Jutes, etc.), Norse, Celts, Gauls, Britons, Pictish tribes, etc. (all nowextinct but referred to in history books as tribes).

same case with countries such as North America (Sioux, Cormanche tribes, etc), South America (Aymara, Quechua, etc), India, China, SOuth East Asia, etc (Dayaks, Gonds, Bhils, Maoris, etc.)

ah i see about Beti-Pauhin. but they all share common ancestry it seems, along with Fangs , Bulas , etc.

Exactly the same happens in South America.
Except to the Mayans, the Incas and Aztecs, to all other American ethnic groups are called "tribe."
I do not know if the word "tribe" is derogatory or not ... but you observe that a great match between America and Africa ....
All indigenous traditions were considered barbaric, uncivilized, and beliefs considered "witchcraft", their languages ​​have almost disappeared.
Coincidence?
Or modus operandi of the conquerors?

Mr_Anony: LOL.

You laugh at all this, really.
Are you a Nazi like his friend unbenedict?
You enjoy the suffering of others?
You lick the feet of the settlers, and enjoys the pain of susu brothers!
It may be funny ... but I do not understand well.
You want proof? Have these tests to these children ...
After 500 years of colonial rule, is that the reality of Africa.
Or are they fake photos?
Or is the reality of Africa that I have detailed, AIDS, infant mortality, lack of sanitary conditions, are also false?
Please! You should raise their moral and ethical to embroider this tpo sensitive issues.
My respects, and hopefully these children are able to forgive your comments.

Mr_Anony: You are just making empty rants, please show us how exactly Christianity is directly responsible for AIDS, poverty, illiteracy etc in Africa.

Read a history book.
Educate yourself about slavery they were subjected Africans by Arabs and Christians. That slavery still continues, is an intellectual slavery (which you are a proof).
African ancestors are guilty of this?
Please! Be a little sense!
You should respect the pain of their brothers and their ancestors.

Ubenedictus: aha! Are u happy now? You cant find any proof against the catholic church in d nazi case, u cant find any word where a church council or pope support hitlers injustices, infact u see an encyclical against hitler's injustices and yet u just want to run and hide, u just cant face it. It is a pity u just cant face d truth and i hate a discussion where d other party is afraid of d truth or too scared to admit it wen he sees d truth. As much as i respect people, i would be sincere ur attitude irritates me.
I hope that satisfys u.

You have a swastika on his forehead, and seeks to hide it with a crucifix. You are a coward, because he can not accept that it is a Nazi in disguise. You yourself have shown that Catholicism and Nazism go together. You have defined as a Nazi Catholic. You yourself have provided the necessary proof to his stupid comment. No more I try anything.
I thank you that you have cleared the doubts raised in the thread
Nazism = Catholicism (ok, are his own words).
Just I have a doubt ... The Nazis considered racially inferior blacks, a slag ... I guess you (which describes itself as a Nazi) also shares that.
Mr. Adolfo, Be happy!

nanidee: This is rather kinda mean. So what then happens to the men who disvirgined these women?

In any case, I am certain once a girl sleeps with a guy before marriage, she already knows her fate. But come to think of it, I am sure a rape situation in this society could possibly lead to annihilation.

Very respectfully, Do not lose sight that it is ancestral customs. There civilizations "post so to speak" that unfaithful women stoned, or who mutilate their sex, Other "civilizations do not condemn women to be virgins eternal sinners, and condemns the nfierno (worst punishment for them). I follow the thread as being anecdotal, I do not agree with some practice, but I dare not judge a people, when others people make similar or worse atrocities, but the latter seem to be beyond good and evil. I hope nobody is offended. My respects.

I understand that we are all talking about peace, and unity.
We also agree to claim the ancient traditions ...
Everyone is talking about union ...
We will then begin.
Is that the big problem in Africa? The problem is that even in the moment when two people agree to begin discussions minor issues?
It's so hard to unite? add?.
To become a crowd, it is first necessary that at least two people to agree with an idea ...
It is so difficult that?
What is the problem?

CAMEROONPRIDE: thank u on the behalf of my colleagues we are happy to be among our NIGERIAN brother .....thanks again

1. Dear brother. I am a foreigner, and I feel I should be grateful for the respect and affection they give me the vast majority of you.

2. Your last comment has been excellent. I fully share. I understand the difficulty of union, which exists in Africa ... favored by so many historical facts, and for so many centuries ...
As a foreigner who loves African history and its people realize that there's a big problem of identity. This has been facilitated by the colonists, and also, the situation becomes more difficult to understand ...
But I have greater confidence that little by little, they will become aware, the lies that dominated for centuries foreign fall, and the traditions, culture and the historical truths of Africa will again be the fate of all beloved children of Africa .
As my friend said PAGAN 9JA, the gods help, but let us help us!
Warm regards!

CAMEROONPRIDE: people use ritual to kill or travel in the night ....why they do not use the same things to immigrate in western country take money and come back with it...or they can launch mystic missiles on obama instead of killing their brothers in the village... Nollywood can teach us lmao

Dear friend.
You say that "people use the ritual of killing or driving at night" ....
It is at that point where you start from a wrong premise.
Do not link African traditional religions, with witchcraft, because that is a mistake.
I have already explained elsewhere interveci, which have been the slave who introduced the concept of witchcraft in African religions ... they were biased, with the purpose of cultural dominance.
If we do not understand that, if we believe that the pincar segumos a doll with a needle are killing people ... or that there are people flying on a broom ... the ignorant are we!
My greatest respect.

CAMEROONPRIDE: who?

Only sincerely grateful to you and other colleagues in the forum.

Delafruita: when you see traditional religion been practiced,your views will change

Witchcraft has its origins in Europe, not Africa.
Arab slave traders and Christians demonized African traditions, but they forgot that Satan does not belong to the African traditions, but the Judeo-Christian ... Big mistake.
The same has happened with witchcraft, whose cult of initiation is the Sabbath, all this practiced in Europe, not Africa.

Ki-Katanga:
Oh?

Is the bible or Koran true? Word for word?

All fairy stories, taken by madmen and fools to be the word of god. One forced by Whites, the other by Arabs and the black man laps them up. Ifa Orisa is just as silly, but I prefer our own silliness to other people's puppet strings.

You are not Islamic neither Christian nor atheist nor traditionalist ...
What do you love Mr. Katanga?
Mhhh I guess ...