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Image123: i said frosbel makes it complex. it's simple and basic from God as it were. David and his friends acknowledged their sins and REPENTED, that is why God did not punish them.

Ok. Ok.
So let me ask you something.
If I one day, I forget the moral and ethics, theft with impunity and killed several people regretting ... I, like David, Solomon, Noah ... surely go to heaven ...

(Where in the Bible says that David, Solomon and Noah repented of being adulterers?)

kaiye007: @italo,.. im a christian precisely a catholic, i belief that lenting season for remembering the passion of christ on the cross. Though i dont fully participate in church activities during this period. Like we catholic normally observe this passion of christ every fridays at the church... Could this be the reason that im getting use to problems during this lenting season because i dont participate in church activities?

Dear friend.
I will give my humble opinion, and you need not share.
Depression leading to this type of ceremony is very large.
Note you for a moment, the faces, gestures ... everything is pain, shock and grief.
This negative pressure is transmitted (as well as transmitting the joy and laughter).
No doubt you absorb all that negativity, and then everything goes wrong.
It's very logical, and that any psychologist can explain.
If you are not practicing (as you said) does not attend these ceremonies.
You will see that everything changes for the better.

Oyedepo. "The great man anointed by God" end prisoner ...
Satan is lighting the fire, placing the pot in place ...
For Satan, to receive such a fraud is the greatest pleasure ...

In South America, none of these people is known.
Fortunately, Pentecostals are not appreciated here.
There have been many allegations of fraud with money, allegations of abuse by women, and drug problems in the churches ...

ajufinz: Wat do U know about Jesus...?
Who is He to you?

You've done one (or more) questions, and I have responded.
You disagree with my statement?
Then you prove what I have is not so.
Do you doubt that the biblical God demanded human sacrifices?

I await your exposure.

From the beginning of time, God has fought against Satan.
However, for thousands of years, this fight does not have a definitive result.
What would be the reason why God has not definitively conquered Satan, after all these years of struggle?
Will really beat him?

That's part of the teachings of the Christian and Arab masters.
"Pray, my son, that while you pray do not think, do not study and do not progress."

"Everything bad that happens to you is because of Satan"

ajufinz: Sacrifice is the offering of food, objects or the lives of animals or people to a higher purpose or to God or the gods as an act of propitiation or worship.
While sacrifice often implies ritual killing...
@OP, whats your own definition of Sacrifice?

Dear friend:
The term "sacrifice" from the religious point of view, has a slight connection with the offerings, but more what is exactly the sacrifice of a living being. In the Old Testament, on many occasions asked Javeh child sacrifice, female virgins, cows, sheep and other animals.
Later that God commanded to sacrifice his own son.
I think this clarifies the debate.

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Image123: God's judgement is not exactly what i would call a small issue. you make it complex with your brainwork,
.

Let's see:
It is assumed that the trial is conducted according to clear rules.
If to God, judging is a complex issue ... what can we expect?
When it comes to the complexity of the trial, you referred to (eg) David, Noah, Solomon, etc.. were adulterers and God did not punish them for that?
That kind of thing you mean when you say that the trial is complex?

well
If you pray on facebook have the divine answer, but you expose yourself to that then charge you a tenth of the favor received.
Therefore, if you ask, ask a lot ...
The risk is that Satan read your prayers before God (Satan also has facebook), he will grant the wish, and copper taking your soul as payment.
A friend made a request on facebook, he prayed a lot, but heard Satan ... and forced my friend to live with her mother for the rest of your life ...

I do not think there heaven or hell, but accepting the assertion of the thread, I could never understand that a child go to hell for having been aborted birth.
That would pay for sins of others.
But there will always some fanatic, that in order to create panic and fear, send to hell those parents, uncles, grandparents and the children themselves innocent ...

ajufinz: You Go skool, tai!
So, your is Jesus' role in redemption an issue.

You read with one eye only, right?
That covers all the religions that make offerings and / or sacrifices and also depends upon the reason why the sacrifice was made.
Sacrifice, is not unique to Jesus Christ.
Not at all.

logicboy01: Lollololol.


See this joker.

-Atheists are confused by the devil
-All atheists are fools (psalm 14;1)
-Atheists have no sense of immorality
-Atheists are going to burn in hell.

Hebrews 4:22 All atheists are ga.y, bisex.ual or transge.nder, and therefore deserve death.

Paul 12.24 Practitioners of traditional religions are worshipers of Satan, and should be burned at the stake!


Anyone who is not of Christ, Satan, and therefore must be annihilated!

On these bases, and understood all this, my friend Logic, I would ask you be respectful.
ok?
(actually my tummy hurts from laughing)

ajufinz: Having read & heard some thought provoking testimonies about revelations of Hell & Heaven, I got so troubled to note that even Children were found in Hell, most accounts gave little or no information about Kidz in Heaven. However, some accounts about Hell gave specific ages of kidz though.

Now, that brings me to Kidz aborted and being aborted for whatever reasons. Where do they go?
HEAVEN OR HELL?
Please, vote and state points to back ur vote.
Thanks.

Presumably we're talking about a just God (although in the Bible, that God has seldom been right).
So, being a just God, the child has no responsibility for the act, so it has nothing to fear.

Of course, from this view, many Christians will say that the baby will go to hell, because it is part of the philosophy of terror in which they have formed, but that would be ridiculous. Do not punish the sinner, but to the victim.

Now ... none of this should worry. The biblical God has not hesitated to sacrifice his own son he has not hesitated to ask sacrifices of virgins, or in support adultery.
So ... nothing surprising in that god.

cog1: Alleluia Satan will ultimately be defeated

1. That God has been thousands of years trying to defeat Satan, and so far has not been.
Well, it's good news that "ultimately Satan will be defeated".

2. Jheova's Witnesses refuse to receive blood transfusions ...
That is, they leave their wives die and / or children by denying them a transfusion that would save them. It's a wild sect, backward and criminal.
There is nothing of God in that sect, who left to die innocent children ....

Ah ... Yeah ... the eternal fear of witchcraft.
I wonder how can Christians say that you should not believe in witchcraft and superstition, but Christians are the first to believe in that.
The worst witchcraft are performed in Christian churches, under the name of "healing", "exorcism" and so on.

ajufinz: Sacrifice is the offering of food, objects or the lives of animals or people to a higher purpose or to God or the gods as an act of propitiation or worship.
While sacrifice often implies ritual killing...
@OP, whats your own definition of Sacrifice?

It's simple as opening a dictionary.
(From lat. Sacrificium).
1. m. Offering to a deity in homage or atonement.

2. m. Act of the priest to offer Mass in the body of Christ under the species of bread and wine in honor of His Father.

3. m. Killing of animals, especially for consumption.

4. m. Killing people, especially in a war or a particular cause. The revolution led to the slaughter of thousands of lives.

5. m. Danger or serious work that a person undergoes.

pleep: What is so beautiful about dancing with human skulls on your head? This is why people have such a negative veiw of paganism.

I do not know if that is beautiful or not ... but they are traditions.
You may not like that dance. You know it's all a matter of taste.
Some people prefer to kneel before a statue of plaster, while others prefer to read the Jewish Bible, which taught them to read the European masters, or the Koran that taught them to read the Arab masters ...
Everything is a matter of taste ...
That's part of something called TRADITION AND CULTURE
A matter of choice
I prefer this dance, and other things.

Fulaman198: Tribal like I said is a Westernized word to put down indigenous groups in Africa and South America. Anyone who uses such a term is white-washed. That said, I am proud of people who choose to don ethnic marks. It shows their ethnic identity. Most ethnic groups in Africa do have ethnic marks whether it is on the face, arms, legs, etc.

Excellent answer.

Best regards!

Indeed.
When speaking of the holy spirit, speaking of the spirit of Jesus. The spirit of a dead or a ghost.
Christianity and Catholicism are spiritist sects, who worship a spirit or a ghost.

Excuse me, but his story is really pathetic.
No god will have to do with all that story.
My respects.

With how much pain I see Africans doing this kind of thing.

You believe that a Christian woman ceases to be a woman?
You really believe that a Christian has no se.x, or do not want to someone else?.

ajufinz: You sound well read and highly opinionated. Your position here is really though provoking too.
Perhaps you can help yourself and many others who may have been carelessly quiet about this, by asking Jesus Himself...
Try it!

Why instead of writing nonsense like that you do not help develop the thread?
Why not bring items on this subject?
Why you instead of TRY to be rational and polite, invite others to prove that they are not interested?
Please be respectful, and think before you write.
TRY IT!

Dear Olaa.
You have ignored my question. You have not responded. You instead of answering my comment, you copied and pasted nonsense, making a smoke screen.
I insist that you are mixing their political position with religion. It is not correct political proselytizing that way.
You open a thread about politics, you criticizing Obama politically .... That would be correct. But you have preferred political proselytizing using religious subjects, they also have false premises.
Please give reasons.

The reason for the fable of the "lake of fire" is very simple.
Rule by terror and fear.
"do as I say, or will you horrible things."

Instead of a lake of fire, could have invented a cataract knife ...
Throughout history and have used many methods, wars, assassinations of suspected heretics, the Inquisition, torture ...
Throughout history, it has become clear that it is often better to be feared, to be loved ...
That's what applies here.
Repression and terror.
Rule by terror.

@FXKing2012
Where you want to go?
You try to denigrate his own past, their ancestors.
When you speak of sacrifice, forget that the God of the Judeo-Christian and Islamic commanded sacrifices virgins in his honor ...

You say that Africa was a continent behind because of their beliefs?
Thanks to the beliefs and the direct and indirect domination of Christian and Islamic groups, TODAY, Africa is the world's poorest continent, Africa has the highest number of death by inanition per capita ... with the greatest ignorance of their own roots.
Very disservice to Africa have, your friends Islamic and Christian ..
Excuse me my sincerity, but their exposure has been pathetic.

Obalufon: Akan people are from Mali. Ewe are from Ketu in Benin republic we are sprang from one source ,we have tradition and culture linking us together IFA/AFA.
History Yoruba is very old and not easy to unravel, there have been series of immigration and emigration in the area for so long all tribe around Yoruba region have history linking them to Yoruba.
TO US OMO ODUA ILE-IFE IS THE CRADLE OF ALL LIFE. WE CELEBRATE THE CREATION OF THE WORLD EVERY YEAR ITAPA FESTIVAL.

ILE – IFE , the cradle of Yoruba, the city of the survivors, spiritual seat of the Yoruba, where the dawn of the day was first experienced, the source, the head of the whole universe; the land of the most ancient days, the home of divinities and to the people of Ife “ILURUN” i.e. Gateway to heaven.

I am closely following the debate.
I have learned that through the centuries, the structure of the Yoruba kingdoms have had many changes. The Yoruba have dominated vast territories, and were also dominated. This makes it very difficult to establish links between different peoples origin.

As stated Obalufón can be established Ile Ife as the cradle of the Yoruba people, also the figure of Oduduwa as the patriarch of that people. From then on, it is difficult to develop.

There is another aspect that has not been mentioned here. Much closer in history, but no less important. This is the Treaty of Berlin (1878), in which some European countries for them divided politically Africa. As a result, the same ethnic group become part of different countries, which (for example) groups Yoruba are part of a country with groups Hausa ... That makes it even more difficult to find the roots.
A very good job of colonizing ... unfortunately.

Obalufon: Bro you can't learn anything pertain history on this site ,the site is filled with Tribal mongers across the Niger that spread hate .

Thanks for the comment dear friend.
It's true what you say. Sometimes it seems that people do not want to learn, but attack each other and joke. It's a shame.
Anyway, I have the hope that someone somewhere moomento talk seriously.

Are you a very educated and enlightened.
It is my pleasure to greet him.
You always have my friendship.

What do you think of circumcision performed by Jews?

coninse: What is wrong our Nigerian brothers and sisters? Don't you guys know the world is reading your public comments? Pls if you don't have something essential or useful to say, keep your fingers off the keyboard. You don't have to comment on every topic. It is embarrassing!!! Think before you type, everything is not a joke guys! C'mon.

Every time I visit Nairaland to read news, I always leave the site with a very sad heart due to some st****d and f***ish comments. Is there no more love among us? Why must we fight against each other all the time? This is no time to fight, we must always assist and encourage each other (we are one, be it YORUBA, IGBO OR HAUSA). YOU SHOULD ALWAYS USE THE INTERNET FOR GOOD AND USEFUL PURPOSE!

In response to the OP question, from my own view, I believe it has to do with our culture. Before I left Nigeria, I always believe the white are very smart and intelligent people. But after studying oversea, my perspective regarding a white man has really changed. They are not smarter than us but their culture gives them the ability and enthusiasm to explore more, something that we lack in our culture. I believe our culture has done more harm than good by holding us back.

Please stop downgrading yourself. Be proud of yourself, your culture and your race. If any white man read these negative comments, he/she will feel they are superior to your race. Asians are not advanced like western countries, but they don't praise any white man. They are proud of themselves and we should start doing the same. By thinking that one race is superior; you are already holding yourself back from exploration. They did it, why can’t you/we do it? Have the spirit and you will thrive. Think about something positive you can do that will change your world and the name of Nigeria in our world.

Mr. Seun, I want you to please start censoring any ill or tribal comments on Nairaland. This useful website is such a great site to read about Nigeria, my homeland. I feel at home whenever I come to this website but some monster are about to turn this website into something else. Please take an action on this Mr. Seun.

Thanks. And by the way, do we have any Nigerian astronomer on this website? If there are any, pls leave a comment or send me a message.

GOD BLESS THE GREAT NATION NIGERIA...

There is much truth in what you say.
I see great African inferiority complex toward the target.
An inferiority complex is not justified. There is also a great ignorance about one's roots ...

As for the comments ... I think it's impossible to change the essence of some people. Also religious fanaticism, and sterile discussions that generates, are losing interest.

But ... make an effort to change it all!
Truth?