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Monjerk: Did you read my post very well, the people i mention there are from This country Nigeria, am talking about the religeous leaders in nigeria not Europe or the rest of the world. Your post seems you didnot get me right. Europe and Arabs has their own problem and we hear in Nigeria have our own problems too, I am much concern with the problem of Nigeria first. Sound as if you are not from this Country?

Ptolomeus: Thanks to these cultures, Africa is well. Why should it matter to them?
The greater the poverty of others, further enriching them.
It's simple.
Only a blind man do not see it

Dear friend.
I'm a foreigner.
What I have tried to explain, is that the same is true in all the world, not only in Nigeria or Africa.
They are not interested in local issues, they were only interested in personal gain.

ezicat: Wait, wait, wait. PS: I know what you're thinking. That my mind has been totally messed up by science. Well, I'm okay with that - it frees me to analyze everything. And that is awesome. You should try it.

I agree with you.
I think they think you're possessed by Satan, and that you are a heretic ... just so they can explain to someone like you and I do not believe in the virginity of Mary and so many other things.

iv4fb: Atheism, the religion of folly!

Atheism is not a religion. It is a theological position.
My respects.

I think these pictures speak for themselves. Who can see Obama praying with devotion to Jesus ... who understands that Guantanamo is taught Christianity to the Islamists, who see Obama eb fearing Christian that Jesus and a lover of the holy bible ... it is understandable that Obama is a chosen of God, a Christian anointed by our Lord to guide us.

newmusic: Uruguay also hosted and won the first world cup. A good footballing nation. ...

Hello dear friend ... is a pleasure to greet you!
Yes, you are very knowledgeable. Uruguay hosted the first World Cup in 1930 and also won in 1950, beating Brazil (the local) 2-1, possibly in one of the most exciting games in history.
We are a country that feels passion for football ... we all love the sport. We are also fans of "Candomble" music of african root brought by the African slaves ...
Could be defined as a Uruguayan football and candombe fan ...
It is a pleasure to share this comment with you.
Consider me your friend!

Excuse you. I do not understand.
There be any doubt that Jesus was Jewish?
Supporters of the forum, citing dozens of passages out of context, why not cite the hundreds of scriptures, which say that Jesus was Jewish? There is nothing racist about that!
Were racist who enslaved Africa, and also sentenced to centuries of backwardness and poverty, forcing Africans to accept their religions and traditions. These latter yes, they are racist!
And there are the meek ... the slaves knelt accepting these foreign cults, without shackles.
Ah, the old African had to be shackled, tortured and killed to break their traditions ... but other Africans look up to the slave, they feel inferior, they meekly accept imposed beliefs, believing that this would be accepted ... But for Europeans, an African Christian continues to be an African ... That itself is racism ...
There seems to be running out of arguments, and some have already written off topic.
Arriba la celeste!

A cult abroad (foreign), who left the slave conquiistadores, sung in the vernacular.
In the eyes of a researcher, it is interesting ... and leads to several conclusions.

tobechi20: Logic boy, this is the ist time ure making small sence.

CATHOLIC COMPILED THE BIBLE, IF CATHOLIC IS WRONG, THEN THE WHOLE OF CHRISTIANITY IS WRONG.
A BAD TREE CANT YIELD GOOD FRUIT. THE BRANCH,STEM ,FRUIT, ROOT, ARE ALL BAD.

PROTESTANT, GO FORM ANOTHER RELIGION THAT DOESNT USE BIBLE, PREACH CHRISTAND HOLYSPIRIT,BELIEVE IN RESURRECTION,CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS AND EASTER.but only preach tithe.

Exactly.
Protestants do not have a doctrine of its own. Each pastor interprets the Bible than 1,000 different ways. Only tithing (which is not marked by the Bible, on the contrary) is common among Protestants.
It is true what you say, the Protestant critique of Catholicism (criticize and attack all beliefs) but they forget that Protestantism born of Catholicism.
The only thing in common with Protestants, as well as the pastors stealing the tithe, is the aggressiveness and virulence with them against any other belief.
The belligerence of them contrasts with what the Bible preaches.
Again, Protestantism has no doctrine of its own. It is a sect invented, and not even agree among themselves.
My respects.

That fool is not responsible for the hunger of the Nigerian child?

Obviously, the absolute good or absolute evil do not exist. Similarly there are no white or black.
It is much more understandable that contains a superior goodness and evil in itself (front and back of the coin), that a perfect being, which ultimately is the creator of Satan and all evil.
Obviously, if Satan is the other face of God.
They are one.

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Mpetempe: JESUS CHRIST is the only way forward! Her earthly mother MARY deserves some honour, but, the way CATHOLICS carry it out! Is dispiriting!
Using of Her Images, claiming honour....Gosh! I don't fancy that.

Yes, the Bible says not to worship images or idols.
Books are idols and images also.
When many pastors use of healing oils, purifying drinking water, walk under a blanket ... are also making idolatry and imitating pagan cults.
Tithing, for example, is a crude imitation of the ancient Hebrew worship. The problem is that the Hebrews paid a tithe to all people, Christian pastors if they do ... contradicting the Bible.
But ...
My dear friend and brother frosbel, disappeared from the thread?

My respects.

buzugee: i play basketball and watch basketball. i watch some soccer but not too much. like i only watch the world cup in soccer. LOL when you say jajajaja does that mean hahahahaha

Yea ... laughter is also reflected by my translator Lol
I say "jajaja", and the translator says, "hahaha"
If you play Basket means you're young ... I played some basketball when I was young. It is a very exciting sport, but I preferred to be scorer soccer!
Nigeria is involved in the Olympics football?
The Uruguayans hope our team does well!

You name some people. If we analyze them one by one, we see that these are people whose only interest is its economy.
Why do you think they would worry about the country's problems? Come on! Do not be so silly!
The leaders of the Christian and Islamic religions, are in line with the Europeans and the Arabs have traszado for Africa.
Generate ignorance, illiteracy and poverty.
Thanks to them, Africa is the continent with the highest number of people infected with AIDS, Africa has the highest rate of death from starvation, also infant death, the worst level of health in the world ...
Thanks to these cultures, Africa is well. Why should it matter to them?
The greater the poverty of others, further enriching them.
It's simple.
Only a blind man do not see it.

To speak of honesty is in fashion. Applying it is difficult.
Pastors teach moral and ethical ... but knowing that tithe charge is immoral and against the Christian laws.

buzugee: Ptolomeus are you good in any sports ? what sports do you enjoy watching and playing ?

Jajajaja dear friend ...
Like all Uruguayan, I love football (Soccer). When I was young I played in the first league of my country (now no longer play anything jajajaja!). Taste of basketball, and I love chess (good chess, of course!)
and you? You just like the basketball?

Alylola: I never said that Jesus disciples went to war, I clearly stated that they are safe somewhere and my point is that they're protected by those who provok those wars, I don't see what I said wrong there; and if they're so protected I am questioning the relation between Jesus who is supposed to protect his disciples and the others that we know are provoking those wars(to fulfill the propheties...of Jesus)... am I asking too much? I don't want war in my country that's all!

estimate:
No one wants war. Not at home, or anywhere else.
Just as I'm worth the doubt about Jesus protects his disciples. Suffice to say how many Christians have died in Ireland, churches burned, and the end tivieron themselves apostles of Jesus ...
Who is responsible for indoctrination, must take risks, and I do not believe that these risks have no protection.
Do not take it personally. It is my view.
I do not think that wars are declared to fulfill the prophecies. That is a contradiction.

My respects.

logicboy01: Frosbel, while I agree that the rosary is a Catholic thing that has no place in scriptures, the catholic church is christianity, you rail against their doctrines but they are the ones that compiled the very bible that you use. We dont know what these people left out when compiling the bible.

Exactly.
Pentecostals are born of Catholicism. Pentecostals do not have a structured system of worship, are limited to removing some Catholic elements and adopt other pagan cults.
Do not worship the saints or images, but they love a book ...
What happens to the rosary is exactly the same.
Pentecostals do not support the Catholic rosary, but use healing oils, water purification, walking under a sacred mantle (Ala) ... all that taken from pagan cults, which criticize Pentecostals themselves.
The world is upside down!

Arriba la celeste!

Read the Bible seriously. Forget what pastors do with the Bible, taking passages out of context and changing its meaning.
Read, for example Malachi and tithing understand that expired with the New Testament.
A Christian should know that a pastor who collects the tithe is actually a Satanist or a thief.

tbaba1234: ^ This should have been started in the Islam section...

@JallowBah check out this thread https://www.nairaland.com/972776/amazing-quran-pre-ramadan-study-interactive

No. The section on Islam is private. So what they wanted. This is a public thread and everyone can say.
I think that possibly the greatest benefits of an Islamic woman, her husband is careful not to leave marks on the time of hitting. You can also shout when you receive the punishment.
I will not mention the castration and the dilapidation, because I think they are issues that should be treated by the very Islamic.
My respects to all.

buzugee: and now they have israelites discombobulated by this heathen tradition.

Dear friend Buzugee:
You know I appreciate you.
But we can not live inside a glass sphere.
Life is not limited to prayer and reading the Bible.
Take the Olympics for what they are: a sporting event that unites the different peoples, all together, regardless of language, beliefs and nationality ... speaking the same language is sport.
You know who won the first Olympic title in football (soccer)?
My beloved country, Uruguay ... Olympics in 1924 and also in those of 1928 (in 1930 Uruguay was the first World Cup champion).
You understand why the Olympics are a wonderful thing?
Hahahahaha!
A warm embrace, my friend!

amor4ce: Sadly, many of HIS people blaspheme HIS Name continually everyday.

Isaiah 52:5. "Now therefore, what do I here," says Oluwa, "seeing that my people are taken away for nothing? those who rule over them mock," says Oluwa, "and my name continually all the day is blasphemed.

Some others resist because of hatred/envy/tribalism.

Dear friend: I do not blasphemous, I worship and respect him.
I do not take his name in vain.

Freksy: Frosbel, i highly commend the efforts, time and energy you dispense in carrying out research and trying to explain certain scriptures.

However, you have not answered the question put forth by ijawboy.

The question was: 'when Jesus died, where was God?'
Remember, critics of God and his words claimed Jesus did not die.
If truly he died for three days, would it be correct to say: 'once upon a time, the world existed without it maker for three days'?

A comment that should terminate the discussion. It is very clear.
I do not understand what else should be discussed after this.
My respects.

Fulaman198: I think I would get some if I were not living in Western world, Westerners don't understand meaning of it, they treat everything traditional as if it is joke

Exactly.
I am a foreigner, living in South America, and I agree with you.
But do not forget that vision that foreigners have on some African traditions are the result of ignorance of the foreigners, and not the fault of Africans.
In my country we have traditions that many Africans may seem ridiculous to them ... but they are not.
We can not determine our actions, to the point of view of foreigners.
I send my best wishes, dear friend!

I'm a foreigner. I do not speak Yoruba, and I would like to see dear friends:
I have understood that the term Iyawó means "wife."
However, sometimes I've seen the word applied Iyá as "mother" (Iya mi = my mother). Am I wrong?
If the word Iyawo was actually a conjunction (very common in the Yoruba language) of Iyá + wo ... could have another meaning?

In Yoruba mythology, is said to Oshun (Osun) was awarded the title of IyaOloodé (Lady of the market, or mother of the market) someone could expand on this?

The thread is very interesting, and is developing very seriously and respect.
I hope I have offended anyone with my statement.
A cordial and affectionate greeting!

Inked_Nerd:

No one is making up anything. The word you are arguing about is a Yoruba word and is derived from the Yoruba language. If anyone would have an understanding of the word, it would be the original speakers of the language. Your argument on what 'iyawo' means would be like me arguing with you on what the word 'claro' means. Being that you are a Spanish speaker and familiar with the Spanish language, I would assume you have a better understanding of the word than I would. Do you see where I'm going with this? Although I'm not Yoruba, as a Nigerian I find it quite rude and insulting that you would even sit here and say that everyone else is making all of it up. Are you even familiar with the Yoruba language for you to even make such a statement?

Hmmmm just wondering, are you Cuban?

Exactly.
Nobody can be more realistic than the King.
I am a foreigner, but never argue with a Yoruba on your tongue.
I think some posts are made by a genetic thing, and some unfortunate statements of Prof. W. Abimbola about what is Santeria.
Hopefully better times, or at least with less arrogance.
My compliments, dear friend!

iyawo ochu: EXCUSEE ME . OKAY iYAWO DOSNT MEAN WiFE ; BECAUSE AS WE SPEAK i AM A iYAWO iT MEANS THE REBiRTH OF A PERSON A CHANGE iN LiFE THAT WAT iT MEANS iN YORUBA TERMS iTS PART OF THE SANTERiA RELiGiON , i HAVE TO BE DRESSED iN WHiTE COMiNG HOME AT CERTAiN HOURS WEARiNG BEADS OR WHAT NOT ONCE AGAiN iT MEANS THE REBiRTH OF A PERSON THE 1ST YEAR THEY HAVE TO DRESS iN WHiTE AND EVERYTHING CANT TAKE PiCTURES i SHOULD KNOW CAUSE i DiD SANTO ONCE AGAiN AND AM A iYAWO , (: THANK YOUUU


- OCHUN Y CHANGO <3

Dear Madam.
Someone asked about the word "Iyawó". They have not asked what it means Iyawó in Cuba. The Yoruba language is from Yorubaland, not Cuba. It is true that the term has religious connotations Iyawo in Africa and America, but it is not here to talk about Santeria.
My respects.

davidylan: Jesus is the same Yahweh in the old testament. One and the same... one throne, one God.

Excuse you.
I do not want to distort the thread of my dear friend frosbel ... but I think you have a lot of confusion about what it takes to trilogy.
Jesus is not Jahweh. The concept trilogy is otro.Recuerde the biblical passage "(Jesus) is seated at the right hand of his father ..."

Goshen360: Dearest Ptolomeus,

Adam fell in the Garden. Jesus came to restore the fall of Adam but unfortunately, men are still falling today due to the following reasons:

1. Doubting the word of God.

2. Adding to and misquoting God's word.

3. Contradicting God's word.

4. Misinterpreting God's word.

5. Tempting to transgress and transgressing God's word.

Satan is transformed as angel of light and so are his ministers. Keep doing your best for the kingdom of God.

~A warm hug to you~

Exactly, dear friend.
Human and petty interests ...
Paradoxically, that meanness is northern people claiming to be religious ...
It is outrageous.

Always a pleasure talking with you.
Are you a friendly person and very friendly.
A big hug from his friend ...

davidylan: I agree, there is one throne and just one KING... JESUS.

I did not say that.
I said that there are three thrones, that the three are seated, but the basis should be unique, representing just the trilogy.

You imagine a throne for Jesus and Yahweh without a throne?

Olaa prefer to copy and paste any kind of nonsense, instead of recognizing that the purpose of estee thread is not religious but political.
On three occasions I have expressed that to him, and none of those occasions he has responded.
That's the key. Olaa is political opponent of Obama. It would be logical Olaa opened a thread in the "politics". Why not?
Olaa want to disguise their political antipathy against Obama, as a religious issue.
I do not think it's that the way of political propaganda.
Come Olaa, this did not work ...
Imagine that Obama is reelected ... the FBI and CIA who would place very easily made ​​that propaganda in the USA ... and possibly ban you eat fried chicken for a few months, or even worse ... take him to Guantanamo. .. and I would have to move all my influence to get from there to my dear friend Olaa ...