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superlightning:
pls follow this link....

https://newrepublic.com/article/145200/happened-nobel-prize-literature


it is a known fact that the Nobel prize is EUROCENTRIC despite being prestigious.

I'll give you hundreds of links criticising Grammy, Oscar, Balon d'or and several other Awards of international repute.
Even if you have an Award body made up of angels, criticism will still arise. So your link(s) above is inconsequential.

superlightning:
pls do yourself a favor. Google through the "criticisms about Nobel prize". The prize being eurocentric has nothing to do with one using native language or not, neither does it affect the prestige of the prize.

Achebe is the principal critic of Joseph Conrad, one of Europe's finest literary icons.

I will say no more.

Thanks for your input regardless of its emotionally laden stance.

You're the one being emotional here. I'm yet to see anyone criticize Chimamanda Adichies' several European Award for being "eurocentric" despite are eurocentric feminism and liberal stance.
Achebe himself won several European Award and no one cried foul.
Just like every award body (Grammy, Oscar etc), criticism are meant to arise but that doesn't reduce their integrity.

superlightning:
1. Nobel committee draws literary works from the pool of eurocentric works, so its understandable that not every Eurocentric work will win the prize. its just not possible.

2. secondly, harry potter series does not share the same literary theme with "things fall apart" though it being a work of fiction
. it rather shares the same theme with Amos tutuola's "palmwine drunkard" because they both are under fantasy subgenre of fiction.

Gao Xingjian (2000) - Chinese,
Mo Yan - Chinese (2012),
Yasunari Kawabata - Japanese (1968),
Shmuel Yosef Agnon (1966) - Isreali.
Naguib Mahfouz (1988) - Egyptian (Arabic)
All the above mentioned won the noble laureate by not only being "non eurocentric" but they wrote in their native languages and still won. So your Eurocentric arguments is only good for the trash can.
Must of Achebe's appraisals, approvals and accolades came from this same Europeans. Just last week BBC listed him as one of the Top 100 Authors in history (Excluding Soyinka) with nobody shouting one Eurocentric nonsense.
I'm not surprised though, it's normal for our friends across the Niger to accept/chestbeat over anything that favours them but quick to cry foul, play down or or summarily claim persecution when it doesn't favour them.

superlightning:
the Nobel club themselves aren't denying their Eurocentrism, its their prize after all.

J. K Rowlings, the author of the Harry Potter series, despite becoming the first billionaire writer, with her works being translated into several languages is yet to win a Nobel laureate. It might interest you to know that majority of the top 100 most popular book authors (including those with far more Eurocentric views) are not recipient of the nobel laureate and you're making a mountain out of Achebe's work (he's a very good novelist though).
Popularity doesn't determine the quality of literature and that's why laymen like you will forever argue in vain. Literature icons all over the world voted for Soyinka... who are you to disagree?

It's only a useless "god" that accept a compulsive worship. It's synonymous to raping a girl when you can actually win her love by being kind and caring and she will willingly give herself to you.
Some religions are meant to have gone into extinction with the stone age.

ken6488:
Las Las ..

My state is a free state not like a full region

Controlled by one man..

Don't reply me again until you behave mature

And which state is Ibori and controlling?

ken6488:


Proudly deltan

Not even related to igbo...


A matter of time before my state will become the richest in Nigeria

hahahaa, Delta state cursed with bad leaders, trillions in allocation and igr with nothing to show for it.
My friend you should be occupied with prayer and fasting for your state instead of putting your mouth in other peoples' matter.

ken6488:
issa free world

You got to learn your master language

The thing dey pain you say SW na the bride of investors, and you're here trying to hide you pain with reverse psychology. If China like let them colonise SW, will that stop your kerosene Governor from Owing your fathers' salaries, or your Iberibeism govo from building statues, or your drunkard obiano from licking bubu's azz, or your wawa Izzi and Izza people from being massacred by their neighboring states?

Hedonini:
Mention one thing you expect Wike to do about the security situation in Rivers State.

He can't do anything but he can collect hundreds of millions as security votes monthly abi?

Wallade:
Your contrary observation is noted and well received sir.

However take out the "sweat", "climb" and "stab". Add the "river", you will still have nine (9) interpretations of same word. That is still amazing.

Add Ogun (doh/reh) - Depth/height

GreatResearcher:
nobody is talking about wearing expensive things here. And sorry we don't have yahoo boys in my street. Out here we believe in legit business..

Lol... yahoo boys wear expensive jewelries and still look like riff raffs and louts.
I guess your usual "physical observations" also brought you to the conclusion that everyone in your locality engages in legit business. Abeg wetin be your address for heaven?

GreatResearcher:
Common sense is indeed not common.
Go back and look at the guy again. Does he looks like someone who makes 20k a day?

Mr. Uncommon sense, does the average yahoo boy in your street look like a millionaire?, does the average igbo hustler in Alaba or ladipo look like a millionaire?
I wonder the type of "GreatResearcher" that you're when all your inferences and conclusions are based merely on physical observations.
Common sense is indeed not common.

GreatResearcher:
This is the only person that has sense on this thread.. Even if he pick-pocket 100 people per day he can't make more than 20k per day.

Try to read and understand. He said "WE", meaning not only him. He is said to be the head of a pick pocket team/gang, so a team of let's say 6-10 making between 80-100k in a very busy location like constain is very feasible. If each of them can successfully steal an Android phone or an expensive jewelry then 80k can be made.

Saraki will forever remember not to cross the path of Tinubu again. A boy that rode on the influence of his philanthropist father is trying to raise shoulders with his father's junior colleagues. It seems Tinubu's football age is deceiving Saraki... lol
There are only two thorough breed Nigerian politician today: Atiku and Tinubu, that's why both are close friends and business partners and less I forget both are chronic rouges. What differentiate the two is that one is smart enough to create a political base while the other believe he can get anything through is Wealth.

He will come to Lagos and have some little change and start bragging how he "Dehvehrop ragos", forgetting the fact that it was Lagos that developed him. They come to Lagos with nothing and they'll be the first to claim "dehvehropers".

The prime minister of Mali and his entire government have resigned, following an upsurge of violence in the country.
On Wednesday, a motion of no confidence was submitted as MPs blamed Prime Minister Soumeylou Boubeye Maiga for failing to handle the unrest.
Last month, scores of herders were killed by a rival ethnic group.
President Ibrahim Boubacar Keita said in a statement that he accepted Mr Maiga and his ministers' resignation.
"A prime minister will be named very soon and a new government will be put in place after consultations with all political forces," the statement said.
Mali has been struggling to control violence since al-Qaeda-linked Islamist extremists gripped the desert north of the country in 2012.
Despite an ongoing military drive and a 2015 peace agreement, jihadists still dominate areas huge areas of the country, having migrated from the north to the more heavily populated centre of the country.
The government has come under increasing pressure over its inability to restore stability, particularly after the massacre of 160 Fulani herders in the Mopti region.
Armed with guns and machetes, the attackers appeared to be members of the Dogon ethnic group, which has a long history of tension with the nomadic Fulani people.
The country was shocked by the killings and tens of thousands of people protested on the streets of the capital Bamako on April 5.
The president said in a televised address on Tuesday that he had "heard the anger".

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-47985620
Lalasticlacla, mynd44, The sub Saharan uprising/revolution is gradually gathering momentum. From Sudan to mali to.... NIGERIA

This one weak me

"And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;

And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet."...Romans 1:27-29

prolog31:
The problem is that there is no such text.

And where did you get you own "museumic text" from troll.
You claim Oyo was never an Empire, I provided you evidence of Oyo being greater than your tiny Benin empire but all you do is dribble around shouting some pseudo eye witnesses and logic.

At least provide us with this your eye witnesses museum text, abi is that too much to do?

Kids invading NL

prolog31:
Firstly of all you may be confusing a few particularly with the generality. Also you are once again not being objective. If today you agree that you are a crokodile, does that mean that your ancestors were crokodiles ? Does that even make you a crokodile ? Use your brains.

Guy, just give up... you lack logic. A text or literature is not a fact on its own unless corroborated by other text...simple logic. people believe the Bible to be true because there are other several text/literature and events that confirms what is in the bible.

Now If Dahomey and Fulani historian and text can "independently" acknowledge Yorubas claim then case closed

LazyGold:
All you have been posting since were all base on Sentiment and not Logic. You claimed there was no Oyo Empire when Dahomey Kingdom Acknowledged Oyo Empire in their History, that alone prove you are full of sentiment and not Logic

There is no point arguing with that nigger, he keeps shouting "eye witness...eye witness" and Logic, without providing any link or words of the supposed eye witnesses. He is one those empty NL trolls bereft of logic he's bleating about.

prolog31:
You so easily assume that Oyo was ever an empire. There is no eye witness account of that. The only eyewitness accounts of oyo describe a small and failing kingdom being invaded by fula. The eye witnessed at the people who visited the region and had the fact of reading and writing and wrote down what they saw. The fact that I need to explain this to you shows how dumb you are. It is like talking to a 5 year old kid.

When a supposed literate start swearing and going personal, know that he/she has lost it. You keep shouting eye witnesses with no link or backup, now you claim Oyo was no kingdom... lol. All fact coming from your cranium.
Now this is what the fact says

prolog31:
You needs a crashcourse in logics. I don't need to discuss any influence at all because the fact that what you refer to as yorubaland today being part of precolonial Benin empire was recorded by eye witnesses ! How dumb are you to not understand this very simple English !

Please, who are the eye witnesses?
How can an Empire (Oyo and several other Yoruba empires) be under another empire (Benin).
All of Yorubas intra/inter wars were documented prior to the colonial era with no mention of any bini lordship. Where were binis when we fought dahomey, Fulani and several other wars?

prolog31:
I don't need to provide any "influence", all I say were recorded by eye witness who visited the region. And it seems you didn't understand the word "colonial" Yes, in the colonial era, when the midwest was part of the western region which was politically dominated by the so called Yoruba, the ogbonni was introduced in the heart of Benin Kingdom. The Oba if Benin in that era denounced it and saw it as an invasion of some sorts.

Lol.... The occupation of a tribe or nation can only be ascertained by the influence they left behind e. g Architecture, Artifacts, Culture, etc and not some historical fables and forklores passed from generations to generation.
You don't need to argue about the influence of bini in Onitsha or Eko, it's influence is evident even from the palace of the Obi of Onitsha and the Oba of Eko, you'll know there's definitely an interaction with the bini. But NONE of such influence can be felt in Yoruba land, rather the influence of Yoruba on Benin is too enormous to be overlooked.
You need a crash course on Anthropology.

prolog31:
Yoruba, it seems you guys don't care about being objective at all. Who told you Yoruba were "light years ahead of Benin" ? Your claim contradicts all eyewitness accounts !

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nh2Tac1gNPU
I agree with you on only one thing, ogbonni is Yoruba. And it was indeed introduced into the heart of Benin Kingdom during the colonial era when the midst was part of the western region which was political dominated by the so called Yoruba.

You claim your prince ruled the Yorubas, now tell me any bini influence your prince/king had/have over the Yorubas...nothing.
FYI, Ogboni has been in existence in Benin years before independence. Ask your elders.

MXrep:
Its the yorubas claiming that yorubas originated from oduduwa who fell from the sky. Ife being archaeologically older than benin mean nothing. Usman dan fodio came from futa jdalon and established the caliphate in northern city states, an event that is relatively recent in history

Unman Dan fodio came into northern Nigeria through through Jihad conquest with highly trained Islamists guerrilla warlords. Unlike your claim that a pseudo Benin Prince came all by himself to govern/conquer a city and people that are light years ahead of his father's Kingdom.

How come binis bear Yoruba names and also practice the ancient yoruba elders cult (OGBONI).
tell me one bini influence on the Yoruba.

MXrep:
Yorubas did not originate from oduduwa. Oduduwa met yorubas when he came up from benin. He settled and organized it into a state and ruled it

Lol... you guys will just come up with any trassh that comes to your brain.
In one breath Oduduwa is the father of Yorubas in another he came from Benin to rule Yoruba land.
A neutral person person will tell you the bini's hypothesis doesn't add up.
Archealogically, Ife is older than Benin. Logically, historically, demographically and scientifically, the binis are offshoot of the Yorubas.
You have more of Yoruba influence on the binis than vice versa.

Nigerians want change but are not ready to change.
We have this foolish entitlement mentality, so because you're paying fees of your wards and children you want to start dictating for the school management abi?
Mr. VC you just do your best and leave the rest.

EdiAbali:
There is no conflict whether Yoruba originated from Benin Kingdom or vice versa

It was very clear that Oduduwa was a prince from Benin kingdom sent on exile

The Yoruba don't want to accept this historical fact because of their ego. This won't change the truth that the prince of Benin Kingdom was the Father of Yoruba people.
The Oba of Lagos who is a descendant of Benin Prince have confirmed it so many times
Yoruba people should accept it and be proud as descendants of the Great Benin Kingdom just like every other group in the Niger Delta and stop the so called yeye conflicts.

From your argument " a prince of Benin is the father of the Yorubas"....Ok. now let's reason logically.
In Set theory, a subset can't be greater than the Universal set.
How come, the offspring of a prince of Benin (Oduduwa) kingdom (the Yorubas) is over 10 times the population/Size of the Bini kingdom itself. Bini is just an equivalent of the Ijebus, Oyos, Egbas, Ileshas (which are fractions/subset of the Yoruba) in size and population.
Can a rat give birth to an elephant?
Your arguments lacks logic.

All this jajanweed lawyers are set out to milk Atiku of his money sha...Even a 100L law student knows that only a CERTIFIED TRUE COPY (CTC) of documents duely signed and stamped by the Organization can be accepted as an evidence (not even a photocopy of the Original) in the law Court. Any tom, diick and Harry can as well come up with a document and claim its authentic.

So far, Atiku and his legal team are yet to come up with claims that can give the Wole Olanipekun Apc's legal team any headache. All Inec needs to do is to produce a contradictory document (which is already in the public domain), the court will not jettison results from PU's, Wards, LGA's, State's (all duely signed by parties agents, security agencies and observers) for a random document from no where...Unlike the case of Osun where even APC knows the case is a 50-50.

It's harvest time for the SAN's...

tstx:
Smh.... This is what the church has been reduced to




See my signature

When Samuel ortom celebrated his victory in the church by prostrating we didn't see you complain about the church being reduced to anything.

Most SE and SS governors have celebrated their victories and offered Thanksgiving at different churches but hypocrite like you won't see anything wrong in that.

But an interdenominational Thanksgiving service in a town square (not church o) is what is reducing the church of hypocritical wailers.

hate-filled soul forming the defender of the church... lol

Gandollar:
I don't give a damn about your tribal slurs here. But I only want you to tell me the name of your village so we can know the level of development there. I hope you won't claim Lagos State.

Let's start by knowing the IGR and GDP of your esusu state... lol. The IGR of SW (minus Lagos) is x2 of your autonomous communities called state. Your best can only rub shoulders with Ondo (the 4th in SW)... IPOB OSU empty chest beater.
I'm waiting for your long essay on how IGR and GDP doesn't translate to development.

Why so much attention on Tinubu, PDP is just making BAT more popular and elevating him to the status of a deity.
This one tinubu... that one tinubu... I beg free the guyman