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Boomark: The spirit-led pygru is now avoiding me and the truth about GODHEAD we posted for him.

I love the spirit of truth-Holyspirit. Who can challeng what He inspired? The truth will always prevail.

Boomark: The spirit-led pygru is now avoiding me and the truth about GODHEAD we posted for him.

I love the spirit of truth-Holyspirit. Who can challeng what He inspired? The truth will always prevail.

ijawkid: But I thought u urself recently concluded that HELL is d common grave of mankind...

Or have u been hallucinating lately??

Was it not u that recently argued tooth and nail with ola and many others that Hell is not a place of torment but Hades??
How does that ur new found knowledge differ with that which d witnesses believe in??

Frosbel it seems u'v become so confused as to what u believe and advocate.....

Jehovahs witnesses dnt believe in d immortality of d soul which I know and which u recently just knew....

Put it up there in ur list.......


U will use those hands and mouth to come bak to back up those teachings up there ur fighting against....

Soonest!!!!!!!!!!!!

Its gonna be gradual.....

1st its ur change of understanding as regards Hell...

2ndly is ur change of understanding regarding d immortality of d soul....

Other changes are coming my bro.......

If Jesus wasn't fully a man on earth he wouldn't die my bro...
Acquire some common sense.....

If Jesus was God bodily he would nt die,he would not forget when d world would end,he will not worship some1 else...

He wouldn't be called the son of man,......

What do u tink d word ""SON of MAN"" means??

The Jehovahs witnesses have always been right on this issue.....

I espouse there stand on it.......

frosbel: There are five important facts to remember about the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Organization.

1. They have accepted the Organization as the Prophet of God.

2. They have accepted the Organization as God's sole channel for His truth.

3. They believe that to reject the Organization is to reject God.

4. They believe that only the Organization can interpret the Bible; as individuals they are unable to do so.

5. They believe the Watchtower Magazine contains God's truth, directed by Him, through the Organization.



What does the Organization and Watchtower Magazine teach that is in conflict with Orthodox Christianity?

1. That Jesus is a created being/a creature.

2. That Jesus is actually Michael the Archangel

3. That Jesus was not resurrected bodily, but as a spirit being.

4. That Jesus returned invisibly in 1914 (secretly to the Organization)

5. That Jesus was only a man when on earth, not the Word Become flesh.

6. That the Holy Spirit is only an active force, not the person of God.

7. That Hell is simply the grave.

7. That Heaven's doors is open to only 144,000.

8. That the majority of Witnesses must remain on earth.

9. That salvation is found only through the Organization.

10. That it must be maintained by energetic works for the Organization until the end when one may merit eternal life on a paradise earth.




The Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe or teach some of the very basic tenets of Christian doctrine.

They deny:

1. The Omnipresence of God.

2. The Deity of Christ.

3. The bodily resurrection of Christ.

4. The visible return of Christ.

5. The Promise of Heaven to all believers.

6. The necessity of the New Birth for all believers.

frosbel: There are five important facts to remember about the Jehovah's Witnesses and the Watchtower Organization.

1. They have accepted the Organization as the Prophet of God.

2. They have accepted the Organization as God's sole channel for His truth.

3. They believe that to reject the Organization is to reject God.

4. They believe that only the Organization can interpret the Bible; as individuals they are unable to do so.

5. They believe the Watchtower Magazine contains God's truth, directed by Him, through the Organization.



What does the Organization and Watchtower Magazine teach that is in conflict with Orthodox Christianity?

1. That Jesus is a created being/a creature.

2. That Jesus is actually Michael the Archangel

3. That Jesus was not resurrected bodily, but as a spirit being.

4. That Jesus returned invisibly in 1914 (secretly to the Organization)

5. That Jesus was only a man when on earth, not the Word Become flesh.

6. That the Holy Spirit is only an active force, not the person of God.

7. That Hell is simply the grave.

7. That Heaven's doors is open to only 144,000.

8. That the majority of Witnesses must remain on earth.

9. That salvation is found only through the Organization.

10. That it must be maintained by energetic works for the Organization until the end when one may merit eternal life on a paradise earth.




The Jehovah's Witnesses do not believe or teach some of the very basic tenets of Christian doctrine.

They deny:

1. The Omnipresence of God.

2. The Deity of Christ.

3. The bodily resurrection of Christ.

4. The visible return of Christ.

5. The Promise of Heaven to all believers.

6. The necessity of the New Birth for all believers.

Taminova520: Yep, where are the four reasons?

Taminova520: Yep, where are the four reasons?

Pygru: Beware of Frosbel, Ijawkid, Truthislight & Seriallink
I like their anti Idolatry stance, but most of their teachings are laced with false doctrines

Beware Of Goshen360 and Okeyxyz ;they said premarital se.x btw two consenting adults (Fornication in my Bible) is not a sin.

Also Beware of the catholic crew led by Italo and assisted by chukwudi44, ubenedictus, striktlymi etc

Goshen360: Ermm, Ermm *okay, official signal...trynna make a or some changes*

The match is very hot right & I need make 1 or 2 changes. #Consulting with technical adviser mode activated before making changes#

1. I need HOLY WATER NOW, THE HOLY WATER will work miracles. I need Prophet Bidam to get us that ASAP or we send EMERGENCY words to MOST SENIOR PROPHET T.B JOSHUA. but, tchidi, can continue selling cold zobo to spectators ONLY WHILE THE ZOBO REMAINS COLD.

2. I need take that pygru guy out of the field and bring JeSoul in but my fear is, I hope we won't have to bring JeSoul out again within 2 minutes but make I see wetin she fit play as she dey dare TECHNICAL ADVISER. That pygru guy is just running round the field AIMLESSLY.

ijawkid: And what should I do??......

frosbel: if he is not , they certainly behave almost in a similar fashion , lol.

ijawkid: Can you be truthful enough to tell us who you really are(your known I.D)......??.....

I don't know why you have to hide your real self to discuss pertinent issues......

Fear fear.....

frosbel: Image123 will grow up one day

ijawkid: And I'm on that post...your job now is reply frosbels points one after the other.....discus§ like a matured adult Ànd stop being a baby.....

If you're ready for the hell fire discussion here you have it.....start giving rebuttals or forever remain silent.....olodo rabata....

mumumugu: you are funny.when debating with catholics, you easily throw seven questions at once, from worshiping status,to praying to Mary , to use of candle to pope is antichrist. Now you ask for step by step analysis.

ijawkid: Lol...how do you even know that what you pasted is true.??...that's my problem...you've pasted so many lies here and you expect me to start attending to all..I don't even knw where to start from...you don't even know which you want me to attend to...

You're just a waste of time and space.....

All I want to do is debunk the foundation on which you stand..but you are even afraid to come out and play.......

Let's deal with the major doctrines...

##trinity
##..hell fire.

As for tithing my other colleagues have done a nice job........

ijawkid: And here arrives the olodo that can't stay on a topic and discuss like a man........

What does hell fire mean??....

ijawkid: Like I said choose one point and we discuss before another.....I can't attend to all points at once..........besides some claims there are twisted ......

Ken4Christ: frosbel, I think I know where your problem lies. I am inclined to believe that you are a Jehovah Witness. Please confirm. Your problem is that your are trying to apply reasoning to the word of God. Most of the things that are scriptural are not reasonable. I can answer all your questions very well but I will not waste my time because you will still not believe. You are trying to figure how God could destroy mankind in a place of torment for ever. Your senses cannot take it. So you therefore conclude that there can be no place like hell. What you did is to decide on what to believe, then you start looking for scriptures that appears to support your belief why ignoring those that contradicts them.

It is not God that determines those that go to hell. It is your choice of rejecting Christ that sends you there. Hell was prepared for the devil and his angels. Those who will not believe the gospel or live right will go there also. Jesus made it so clear. "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:" (Matthew 25:41).

Jesus says there is everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels. frosbel says there is nothing like that. Who are we going to believe? Jesus or frosbel? You think you are fighting for God but you are acting against his word and his will. You are telling fools that one day Satan will celebrate his freedom. Don't you see how absurd your thinking is?

Read my post on the contrast between hell and grave and refute those contrast. I am inclined to believe that you are also not born again. Only those that are born again understands the word of God. "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Corinthians 2:14). You see why you cannot receive the truth of God's word. They sound foolish to you. If you don't repent your suffering will be worse in hell because you are rejecting what the word and even our Lord Jesus teaches on hell. I wish I will be opportune to supervise your torture. Receive Jesus as your Lord and Saviour so you will be saved from the wrath of God. For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? (Revelation 6:17)

Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. (Ephesians 5:6)

My dear fellow brethren, let's leave frosbel alone. He is not a believer. He does not know Jesus. I am convinced he is a Jehovah's Witness, that false religious cult that does not believe even in the deity of Jesus. They don't even believe that Jesus rose from the dead bodily. I really feel sorry for him for he does not know what he is joking with. He has forgotten he is the same God that destroyed the first world where only 8 souls were saved. He rained than fire on Sodom and Gomorrah.

I congratulate all of you that have found the truth and walking in the light of it.

frosbel, for your information, it was not you I was agreeing with in my first post. That was a mistake. I could never be in agreement with anyone that rejects the truth of God's word that even a toddler would understand.

Ken4Christ: frosbel, I think I know where your problem lies. I am inclined to believe that you are a Jehovah Witness. Please confirm. Your problem is that your are trying to apply reasoning to the word of God. Most of the things that are scriptural are not reasonable. I can answer all your questions very well but I will not waste my time because you will still not believe. You are trying to figure how God could destroy mankind in a place of torment for ever. Your senses cannot take it. So you therefore conclude that there can be no place like hell. What you did is to decide on what to believe, then you start looking for scriptures that appears to support your belief why ignoring those that contradicts them.

It is not God that determines those that go to hell. It is your choice of rejecting Christ that sends you there. Hell was prepared for the devil and his angels. Those who will not believe the gospel or live right will go there also. Jesus made it so clear. "Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:" (Matthew 25:41).

Jesus says there is everlasting fire prepared for the devil and his angels. frosbel says there is nothing like that. Who are we going to believe? Jesus or frosbel? You think you are fighting for God but you are acting against his word and his will. You are telling fools that one day Satan will celebrate his freedom. Don't you see how absurd your thinking is?

Read my post on the contrast between hell and grave and refute those contrast. I am inclined to believe that you are also not born again. Only those that are born again understands the word of God. "But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned. (1 Corinthians 2:14). You see why you cannot receive the truth of God's word. They sound foolish to you. If you don't repent your suffering will be worse in hell because you are rejecting what the word and even our Lord Jesus teaches on hell. I wish I will be opportune to supervise your torture. Receive Jesus as your Lord and Saviour so you will be saved from the wrath of God. For the great day of his wrath is come; and who shall be able to stand? (Revelation 6:17)

Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience. (Ephesians 5:6)

My dear fellow brethren, let's leave frosbel alone. He is not a believer. He does not know Jesus. I am convinced he is a Jehovah's Witness, that false religious cult that does not believe even in the deity of Jesus. They don't even believe that Jesus rose from the dead bodily. I really feel sorry for him for he does not know what he is joking with. He has forgotten he is the same God that destroyed the first world where only 8 souls were saved. He rained than fire on Sodom and Gomorrah.

I congratulate all of you that have found the truth and walking in the light of it.

frosbel, for your information, it was not you I was agreeing with in my first post. That was a mistake. I could never be in agreement with anyone that rejects the truth of God's word that even a toddler would understand.

ijawkid: If I say we should discuss these issues one after the other you would be no where to be found......

In the other thread we hadn't finished with the trinity when you ran away and then later came back pasting thrash.......

I insisted we start with the trinity ......come and let's discuss it........eternal torment issue can come later.....

And hÓw does not saluting the flag make us falsÉ??.....

Your foolishness indeed knows no bounds....I've told you to show up with your real I.D but you won't.......

ijawkid: We disfellowship basically unrepentant wrongdeors.........hope you see the clause there..??.....UNREPENTANT.........

And the many who are disfellowshiped are those who have chosen to lead immoral lives incessantly.........

1 corinthians 5:9-13.......

ijawkid: You are simply just a ""copy and paste"" fool...........

I doubt if you understand the scriptures you've copied from an anti-JW site and pasted here.....

For your info boomark and frosbel aren't JW's but they've seen the folly behind the trinity and your definition of Godhead.........

Read boomarks write up and learn......

ijawkid: If I say we should discuss these issues one after the other you would be no where to be found......

In the other thread we hadn't finished with the trinity when you ran away and then later came back pasting thrash.......

I insisted we start with the trinity ......come and let's discuss it........eternal torment issue can come later.....

And hÓw does not saluting the flag make us falsÉ??.....

Your foolishness indeed knows no bounds....I've told you to show up with your real I.D but you won't.......

ijawkid: And who is this man??.....why should I believe all the hogwash he wrote??

mumumugu: Italo take it easy

ijawkid: And now where did you get these info's from??.......from a watchtower or hear say??........

What's your source pygru??......what's your source..??

Because your claims on this thread are unfounded and baseless.........

When did the witnesses ever sell books to make profit??............

And you've been yapping about russel......russell does not even knw half the truths I know now..........

On the other thread I had told you to bring out doctrines you feel that the witnesses believe in that are wrong and let's discuss them after the other,you refused.....

Now you go online copy and paste thrash here and expect who to attend to it??......


I ask again what is your source??......show me.........

italo: Why?

Because I'm a Catholic?

Rich4god: Like seriously, Frosbel did you make this comment or was some1 using your moniker.