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ijawkid: Abeg strikt you for no put pygru for right wing attack o....the boy dey attack like musa.....him no dey know the direction of him attack.....................

frosbel: no it does ?

From Trinity we derive Mary worship, since she was the Mother of GOD.

Anyway, I am outta here, fight the battle on ya own.

I am not a JW,

frosbel: Funny enough , many of the people who call JWs cults are even worse cults with worse doctrines of demons such as :

1. Pagan Trinity - removes God's individuality
2. Eternal torment - Slanders God's character and makes him worst than Hitler
3. Tithing - another doctrine of demons meant to make merchandise of the people of GOD
4. Word of Faith heresies
5. Strange and weird spiritual manifestations.
6. Worshiping MOG as gods

The list is too long.

I disagree with the JW on quite a number of doctrines, but stop this kettle calling a pot black nonsense.

Ken4Christ: frosbel, I will not argue with you on this issue again after this post since you have refused to learn. I thank God there are people that understands my expositions on the subject. You are just joking with your life. You think you know but you are very ignorant.

The word hell is translated from the Hebrew word Sheol in the Old Testament 31 times. It is an unseen world of torment and is not the same as physical grave. If you try to substitute the word grave for hell in the verses you find them, it will certainly not make sense.
Why Hell (Sheol) cannot be grave
1. The Bible talks about souls been cast into hell (sheol) but bodies are buried in graves

I made the nations to shake at the sound of his fall, when I cast him down to hell with them that descend into the pit: and all the trees of Eden, the choice and best of Lebanon, all that drink water, shall be comforted in the nether parts of the earth. (Ezekiel 31:16)

2. Hell (Sheol) is never located on the earth’s surface. Grave is located on the earth’s surface.

Hell from beneath is moved for thee to meet thee at thy coming: it stirreth up the dead for thee, even all the chief ones of the earth; it hath raised up from their thrones all the kings of the nations. (Isaiah 14:9)
3. There is not a single scripture where man was quoted as putting anyone into Hell (Sheol). But man buries people in grave. God alone puts people in Hell
4. There is nowhere man is said to have dug hell (Sheol). But man digs grave
5. Hell is a place of sorrows. There is no activity going on in the grave
The sorrows of hell compassed me about: the snares of death prevented me (Psalms 18:5 )
6. Hell is a place of fire. There is no fire in the grave. For a fire is kindled in mine anger, and shall burn unto the lowest hell, and shall consume the earth with her increase, and set on fire the foundations of the mountains. (Deuteronomy 32:22)
7. Hell is a place only the wicked goes. Everyone that dies is buried in the physical grave.
The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God. (Psalms 9:17)
8. Hell is a place that can be avoided. Everyone that dies cannot avoid the grave. Your body must be buried in the grave. The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from hell beneath. (Proverbs 15:24)
9. Men cry for pain in hell. No one cries in the grave. And said, I cried by reason of mine affliction unto the LORD, and he heard me; out of the belly of hell cried I, and thou heardest my voice. (Jonah 2:2)
10. Hell is a place of full consciousness where conversation takes place. There is no consciousness in the grave. The strong among the mighty shall speak to him out of the midst of hell with them that help him: they are gone down, they lie uncircumcised, slain by the sword. (Ezekiel 32:21)

I can go on and on. I deliberately did not use most of the familiar scriptures that is point clear in the New Testament. You refute the story of the rich man and Lazarus and call it parable. Please also tell us that all the scriptures above are parables. If after all this infallible proof, you still want to argue, I will strongly recommend you to visit a psychiatrist. It certainly is another degree of madness. I do not mean to insult you but anyone that denies the teachings of Jesus is working with the devil. Paul even placed a curse on anyone that teaches or preaches anything other than that which they have taught. “But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. As we said before, so say I now again, If any man preach any other gospel unto you than that ye have received, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:8-9)

Any translation that puts grave for hell is in error. They are not the same.

My friends, please don’t mind frosbel and all who share his views. This are the last days. There will certainly be false prophets and teachers. If he is honest, let him comment on every single contrast I made between hell and grave.

May God deliver his children from false Teachers and Prophets

ijawkid: You sure say you get work or you just wan waste people time for here....

truthislight: He should be that fraud called @True2god.

frosbel: False Prophet alert !!!!

Pygru: believes in a PAGAN trinity :

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Pygru: The Godhead

God the Father, Son & Holy spirit= Three different personalities, Equal and United as ONE

frosbel: ^^^^^^


I say God forbid to the above.

The truth is as follows :

1. God the Father or Yahweh who is inseparable from his Spirit or Holy Spirit.
2. Jesus Christ who is the Son of Yahweh and subordinate to Yahweh.

Pygru: The Godhead

God the Father, Son & Holy spirit= Three different personalities, Equal and United as ONE

frosbel: The Pagans will be proud of you.


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Pygru: The Godhead

God the Father, Son & Holy spirit= Three different personalities, Equal and United as ONE

ijawkid: Who are u??....have we finished with the previous topics??.....it seems you're someone I know hiding behind a new I.D.....be bold enough to show yaself............

frosbel: You are a coward , going about with different userids when I have always stuck to mine with a small exception a while back.

Goshen360: It's too obvious who you are and nowhere to hide. Technology can fetch anyone out you know. That's my job. If you have any problem with me, deal with it and move on with your life. If I say something, you don't understand, ask questions and stop stop operating in slandering spirits. I have no business with you abi you know me in person ni?

Boomark: Leave catholic and join Jehovah's witness or any Pentecostal church.

The advice to follow Christ 1st is the most important. So that wherever you are, you will work in the truth and be able to identify wrong teachings.

honourhim: @ken4christ,
Thanks for this beautiful exposition you made and may God bless you. The way Frosbel is busy gathering scriptures here and there to drive his point, obviously tells me he is just wrong. This exactly is the way pastors who deceive the congregation into parting with their hard earned money go gathering bible quotations anyhow just to convince us to give. One thing I cannot do is to joke with the message of my eternal destiny and as such I can't believe frosbel. Those who likes sweet messages can believe for all I care. What shall it profit me to believe him only to see when I die that his message is false. How then do I get chance to come back to life and change the false believe. And I lose my soul to hell just like that? God forbid.

Lovethywilbedon: See another one, So you think we are here for JOKES, A Church with such name DOES NOT EXIST.I have even searched it with Google. Okay so you have resorted to LIES, anyway Iam not surprised, that is what BLASPHAMOUS HYPOCRITES are known for, LIERS!

[b]What Jw's believe, but won't initially tell people when they knock on doors and ask if they think the world would be better off without war, suffering, sickness and child abuse:
1. If you become a JW and then leave them because of their false teachings, you will be literally shunned. You family that remain in the organization will not be permitted to even talk to you!
2. The Watchtower Society is the only source of truth on earth today and your soul will be destroyed if you refuse their organization.
3. The Watchtower Society and its followers are all prophets of God today and the Governing Body is directed by angels from God.
4. The Watchtower and Awake magazines originate with and are treated as equal to the Bible.
5. They deny the that God consists of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit.
6. They deny the deity of Christ (Arian view) Jesus is a created being also called Michael the archangel, and was the first and only direct creation of God.
7. Jesus was not the Christ (Messiah) until age 30, even though their own bible says in Luke 2:11, "because there was born to you today a savior, who is Christ the Lord."
8. They deny the bodily resurrection. After Jesus was buried in the tomb, Jehovah dissolved his body into gases and it disappeared forever.
9. Jesus rose invisibly in three days, so Jehovah had to "materialize" a fake body forhim complete with fake nail prints so His disciples would believe it was really Jesus risen.
10. They deny the personality of the Holy Spirit(viewed by the Watchtower organization as "God's active force", similar to radio waves)
11. They deny man consciously survives death.
12. They teach the eternal punishment of the lost is annihilation.
13. They deny the bodily, visible return of Christ (Christ's "return" was only His"turning his attention" invisibly toward earth in 1914, and there was an invisible"rapture" of the dead members of the 144,000 in 1918.)
14. The cross is a pagan symbol of sex worship, and that all buildings or persons displaying the cross are likewise pagan. Jehovah's Witnesses deny that Jesus died on a cross but a stake. However, recent"new light" in the Watchtower now admitsthey are not certain about the cross, but will continue to deny it anyway. Further, the watchtower originally claimed it was across.
15. No one goes to heaven but 144,000 Jehovah's Witnesses
16. They teach Christ is the mediator for only the 144,000, not the average Jw.
17. Teach only the 144,000 must be "born again", not the average Jw.
18. Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob etc. were to be back on earth as perfect humans in 1925. The Society built a palatial home called"Beth Sarim" for them BUT when the patriarchs failed to show up, the Presidentof the Society moved in.
19. Their light gets "brighter and brighter", allowing for many changes and "about faces" on their doctrines. Yesterday's erroris today's "truth". Often the "light" bounces back and forth from old to new views and back again! (Might we call this discarded truth... "black Light"?)
20. Blood transfusions are rejected and if a Witness receives one willingly, it results in his eternal death. However, the society allows Hemopheliacs to consume blood for medical purposes to save their life.
21. To salute the flag is an act of idolatry.
22. Participation in any civil holidays, mothers day, birthdays brings condemnation of God.
23. Only persons who use the true name of God, Jehovah, will have their prayers heardby God. No salvation is possible without using the name "Jehovah "[/b]

Pygru: Matthew 24:11 ►
New International Version (©2011)
and many false prophets will appear and deceive many people

2 Peter 2:1
But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction

1 John 4:1
Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world

Matthew 7:15
Beware of false prophets , which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardlythey are ravening wolves.


2 Corinthians 11:13-15
13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shallbe according to their works.

Do not be carried away by their popularity, command of english, Head knowledge of the Bible, Sugar coated tongue, etc
A false prophet/teacher will not come to you with horns
They are very subtle; Just like the serpent that deceived Eve.
The comming of the Lord is at hand (rapture).
Satan, their master is figthing tooth and nail to deceive.

italo: So it is okay for you to pray for me but it is wrong for Mary, the mother of Jesus to pray for me?