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frosbel: ^^^^

I do not consider myself to be a teacher , though my Son once asked me to be one , because of the logical, clear and simplistic method I used during family bible expositions.

All I had believed for most of my life were commandments, creeds and dogmas of MEN and their institutions, I regarded people like Adeboye, Kumuiyi as on a different planet and infallible , my churches deeperlife and Apostolic faith were it, they could do no wrong , all other believers and churches were suspect, even, not true believers.

When I tasted the freedom from MEN and their churches, wow, it was like , Joy, Joy to study the bible for myself with God's wisdom, apply logic and reasoning to the word of GOD and examine all that I ever was taught. No more tradition with their tons of dos and donts, what to eat or not eat, what to wear , where to go , what to believe etc.

Back to your point, I share all my discoveries, revelations and knowledge here for all and sundry to discuss, review and conclude , but this is not done in the office of a teacher, rather as a layman and a very small fry in a big pot of Christian 'fish'.

frosbel: You are a coward , going about with different userids when I have always stuck to mine with a small exception a while back.

Goshen360: It's too obvious who you are and nowhere to hide. Technology can fetch anyone out you know. That's my job. If you have any problem with me, deal with it and move on with your life. If I say something, you don't understand, ask questions and stop stop operating in slandering spirits. I have no business with you abi you know me in person ni?

frosbel: ^^^^

Your true doctrine is my false doctrine and vice versa

Let us leave the brethren to use the bible and analyse what is true and what is not .

Or are you now a slanderer

Willzkid: The only reason why this thread dragged for 5pages, the only reason why everybody has been calm and diplomatic on this thread is because LORD GOSHEN, THE SWEET-TONGUED (NAY SUGAR- COATED F.INGERED) 2012 RELIGION SECTION POSTER OF THE YEAR, SELF PROCLAIMED NEW TESTAMENT TEACHER, BIBLE AUTHORITY, AND CHIEF PROPONENT OF THE BIBLE-REWRITING MOVEMENT IS INVOLVED...As I said on this thread:
https://www.nairaland.com/1240428/christians-abraham-not-father, Brother Goshen, knowledge puffeth..
To all who know the truth but are afraid to match Goshyen's word power, clout and popularity, if your gospel be hid, it is hid from them that perish, or are on the way to

Pastor Olu T: Yes, the first thing 2 understand is that though a teacher can be a prophet and vice versa, but they stand in different offices.

A prophet foretells the future and stand in the office of a prophet, that is his special calling to prophecy future events, while a teaching exposes secret things in the word of God and make every of his listeners understand the mind of God, which is his office.

The interesting thing is that a prophet can also teach while a teacher prophecy, but that is not their offices and would never do as someone called to that office,

Now coming to false, they both tell lies and produces fruits accordingly with a different spirit, but their offices differentiates them.

Pygru: Beware of Frosbel, Ijawkid & Seriallink
I like their anti catholism stance, but most of their teachings are laced with false doctrines

Beware Of Goshen360 and Okeyxyz ;they said premarital se.x btw two consenting adults (Fornication in my Bible) is not a sin.

Also Beware of the catholic crew led by Italo and assisted by chukwudi44, ubenedictus, striktlymi etc

ijawkid: as iI can see u aint ready to discuss these issues one at a time....you just want to keep yapping till thy kingdom come.....

can we start with the trinity first?....

ijawkid: iI dont think you are ready to discuss the trinity .........



when u ready make u tell me....



if ur not ready u can keep carrying out . and believing in the catholic churh's dogma.....

kudos to uuuuu.....keep worshipping your triad god...as for me iI worship the one true God Yahweh...it that same God Jesus worshipped....i just dnt know why u guys cant imitate Jesus ....smh...

ijawkid: so what do u believe?....that all righteous humans would live in heaven?...that this earth that God took time to create would sometime in the future be un-inhabited? ......open that your bible n read it well...u dey hear me?.......

and one last question...where is hell located??.....what is hell?

peteregwu: when u tell catholic they worship idol, they will disclaim unbiblically. now see below and tell me what the pope is doing...is that not witchcrafty? so, what makes th pope or catholic different from native doctors.

below pope kissing the "holy quran", with a skull before him showing occultism, and holding a symbol of the ancient god of the pagan. what prove do u guys want? if this i hidden before us, then we will not bother judging, but what we see we do speak or judge. so it is clear. the bible says we should "judge righteously". so when we see what is evil, we say it is evil by speaking out.

Pastor Olu T: A false prophet is one who prophesy lies and half truth with a different spirit from the Lord. A true prophecy is always in line with the word of God and exalt Christ, anything aside from this is false.

sexkillz: [color=#000030]John was doing all the work and Baptizing. Don't forget that it was john who baptized Jesus. And again, it is very poSsible that the "crowd" in that passage had only been hearing of "John", but had never seen him, and since Jesus was doing the same thing John did(asking people to repent, that the kingdom was at hand), it's safe to say that they thought Jesus was John. . .

Jesus and John were Cousins, and their age difference was very small. They could also have looked alike somehow. [/color]

tobechi20: I NORMALLY USE TWO TECNIQUES.

JOSE MOURINHO COUNTER ATTACK APPROACH ; HERE, I AM A BIT DEFENSIVE BUT MOSTLY THROW IN QUESTIONS TO THE PROTESTANT TO KEEP HIM OFF BALANCE. THE BEST FORM OF DEFENCE IS ATTACK


GUARDIOLA MILDFIELD APPROACH ; HERE, WE TABLE THE MATA N THE FLOOR AND USE THE PROTESTANT ONLY TOOL; BIBLE TO ANALYSE THE ISSUE AT HAND. WE USE THE BIBLE TO SPECIFY OUR INDIVIDUAL BELIEF.

swaggzo: Lol. Frosbel i know you. I've been reading your posts on that religeous thread. You're obviously an anti-catholic..

alexleo: @Goshen360,
Your teaching on this issue is VERY WRONG. Sex outside marriage(with the due process followed and completed) is a SIN in whatever way you look at it. If two people have in mind to marry and have not gone through the process required for marriage they are not married and can call the relationship a quit anytime at that point without being guilty of divorce. For example, if someone wants to pursue a PHD and he still has it in mind, or has even started the program, he cannot claim to have the PHD until he completes the requirements of the program. You see, i keep saying this- Lets be careful not to give out cheap gospel to people in the name of "Grace period". Cheap gospel is a poison coated with sweetness to deceive the receiver and we need to be very careful with what we are teaching because we shall answer for every soul we deceived with our teachings.
Now, i ll rather not teach at all than to teach and miss heaven because i taught false message. The ones am very sure and convinced about by the Holy Spirit, that i ll teach. I pray the Lord to help you as you continue to study the word. Actually i do present my brethren here before the Lord that he will continue to guide us all aright that we may not deliver a wrong teaching which in turn will deceive anybody and we miss heaven for that. And i hope you guys are praying for me too. I DONT WANT TO MISS HEAVEN FOR ANY REASON. I CHOOSE TO STAND WITH GOD AT ALL TIMES AND IT DOESNT MATTER WHETHER MY FLESH LIKES IT OR NOT. Thats why i like the discussions that have been going on in the religious section in recent past so as to learn from each other. Its obvious we have passed the stage of constant argument with atheists whether God exists or not. The one we are doing now is the one that is more profitable. God bless you.

frosbel: The reference to Dinah is not in the correct context.

At least be honest and quote scripture in context, the proposal for marriage came after he had defiled her, in other words when she was single.

There had been no parental consent or marriage.

"took her and lay with her and humbled her. And his soul was drawn to Dinah ... he loved the maiden and spoke tenderly to her," and Shechem asked his father to obtain Dinah for him, to be his wife."

My position is still that sex outside marriage is wrong , marriage has to take place first and there should ideally be witnesses to this marriage.

Goshen360: Leave me and Bidam alone! When I made my statement to Bidam, did I mention your name? It's too obvious who you are and nowhere to hide. Technology can fetch anyone out you know. That's my job. If you have any problem with me, deal with it and move on with your life. If I say something, you don't understand, ask questions and stop stop operating in slandering spirits. I have no business with you abi you know me in person ni?

oiseworld: They are easy to know.
rather than make effort to win souls unto God, they are more concern in finding fault in the church.

May God save us.

amanda2013: guy beta mind ur language. Ur I too knw is beginning to irritate me there is no difference btw u and boko haram.

frosbel: [img]http://ivarfjeld.files./2010/11/christmas-midnight-mass.jpg[/img]



^^^^^

You call this Christianity ?

Who you kidding ?