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Christianity EtcRe: Restitution: Christ's Teaching For The Church Or Old Testament Law? by Pygru: 2:43pm On Aug 27, 2013
Image123: Like i said earlier, its such a shame and saddening that christians begin to query basics of the christian faith without any real hinge. i said not to comment earlier, but will need to.
This is where christianity is been led to in the name of the law. This is not the christian life, salvation, eternal life that Christ died for. That we only obey what we see from Acts to Revelation. This is false doctrine, and strong deceit. The Word of God is unchanging, the standard of God is perfect. Whether you see it in Genesis or in Titus, the Word of God abides for ever. It is a similar issue that most of the folks here had with tithes. They require that you convince them where it is written after calvary before they obey it. This is not christianity. i wonder what and how the first century christians lived then, as they didn't even have the epistles like we do today.
Psa 24:3 Who shall ascend into the hill of the LORD? or who shall stand in his holy place?
Psa 24:4 He that hath clean hands, and a pure heart; who hath not lifted up his soul unto vanity, nor sworn deceitfully.
Psa 24:5 He shall receive the blessing from the LORD, and righteousness from the God of his salvation.

Is the above passage old testament and therefore of no relevance to christians? Must one see a parallel of this inside Acts to Revelation before he can know the mind of God?
Restitution. For God's sake, restitution. i didn't imagine i'll have to argue with a CHRISTIAN on the relevance of restitution to the christian life. It has become that bad. And the issue is now that, once there is nobody to speak for, or argue well, then many reader will throw away all caution and previous knowledge, and take a thread as the final authority. It is assumed that once you don't answer, you don't have an answer. Where are the Bereanic christians who did not toss to and fro, and base their christianity or deconversion on threads?
Not to talk much, i"m afraid still that even with what i'm about to stay, those who have the evil heart of unbelief will still manifest. Those who will say Jesus is not Lord because Image123 said Jesus is Lord are around. And it sorrily boils down to how sweet my arguments will be. Well, may God touch those who are sincere and honest in their doubts.
Repentance itself connotes, denotes and implies restitution. Repentance is to be sorry, to change ways. Restitution is giving back, paying back or returning. True repentance of a thief implies that he is sorry for stealing and stops to steal. It is a 180o turn. Even an atheist knows that stolen money should be returned or apologised for if one is truly repentant. Many hypocrites here were gaga about pastor chris and adeboye returning tithes and offerings from accused persons. Restitution is to have a conscience void of offence. In the new testament, doing God's will is not about obeying Acts to Revelation. doing God's will comes from the grace that the christian has received. In the old covenant, they tried to do God's will to be justified. In the new covenant, we are justified to do God's will. So God's will is not what is changing from Old to New. It is the process.
Mal 3:6 For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
Heb 13:8 Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and today, and forever.
Eph 2:10 For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus unto good works, which God hath BEFORE ordained that we should walk in them.
Titus 3:8 This is a faithful saying, and these things I will that thou affirm constantly, that they which have believed in God might be careful to maintain good works. These things are good and profitable unto men.
Titus 2:14 Who gave himself for us, that he might redeem us from all iniquity, and purify unto himself a peculiar people, zealous of good works.
Heb 10:24 And let us consider one another to provoke unto love and to good works:
1Pe 2:12 Having your conversation honest among the Gentiles: that, whereas they speak against you as evildoers, they may by your good works, which they shall behold, glorify God in the day of visitation.

Unfortunately, the christains today are not zealous of good works. They need to be convinced. They know too much than to be fooled.
Gal 4:11 I am afraid of you, lest I have bestowed upon you labor in vain.
1Co 6:7 Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?
Where are the christians that will obey this new testamental advices? Again, i know i'm wasting your time so let me go straight to the OP's

Restitution was practiced by Paul in Acts when he apologised for the man he disrespected.
Act 23:2 And the high priest Ananias commanded them that stood by him to smite him on the mouth.
Act 23:3 Then said Paul unto him, God shall smite thee, thou whited wall: for sittest thou to judge me after the law, and commandest me to be smitten contrary to the law?
Act 23:4 And they that stood by said, Revilest thou God's high priest?
Act 23:5 Then said Paul, I wist not, brethren, that he was the high priest: for it is written, Thou shalt not speak evil of the ruler of thy people.


In Acts, he also said,
Act 24:16 And herein do I exercise myself, to have always a conscience void of offense toward God, and toward men.
Act 23:1 And Paul, earnestly beholding the council, said, Men and brethren, I have lived in all good conscience before God unto this day.

Anything that disturbed his conscience, he resolved. That's restitution. That when God's spirit, or God's Word, or God's messenger reminds you of something that is wrong and needs correction, that you ask for grace and the leading of God to know what to do. These are the little things that woill make rewards differ in eternity. i'm not saying or preaching that you will not go to heaven for not doing restitution. It is Christ that saves, not works. But you will be rewarded according to your work. The book of Philemon is RESTITUTION. Paul was sending back run away Onesimus to his master, and promised to pay any debt incurred. i'll stop here as i'm certain that all that is needed to believe that restitution was practised in the church is here already.
PoliticsRe: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by Pygru: 6:16pm On Aug 26, 2013
PoliticsRe: Lesson For Those That Want To Die For Politicians (Picture) by Pygru: 5:34pm On Aug 26, 2013
Logicboy03: grin


Lesson for those who support the corrupt
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PoliticsRe: Fashola, Tinubu And Ikuforiji Are Stealing Lagos Blind by Pygru: 4:58pm On Aug 26, 2013
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PoliticsRe: Fashola Got His San From Salami by Pygru: 4:58pm On Aug 26, 2013
jamace: We now know better. cheesy
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Christianity EtcRe: First Ever E-Convention, Grace 2013, has begun!!! by Pygru: 4:19pm On Aug 26, 2013
PoliticsRe: The Declaration Of Pdp As Winner Of Badagry Lg Elections By Lasiec. by Pygru: 4:05pm On Aug 26, 2013
Omooba77: If you watched Joe Igbokwe on channels TV yesterday,you will pity him. Taofek Ganiyu was trying to ask him fundamental questions,especially on the issue of Badagry that has already been decleared by the returning officer,the man was talking about their stolen mandate in Edo,Ekiti and Osun. What correlation does that bear with issue on ground.
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PoliticsRe: Tinubu And Fashola Are Begging For An Armed Uprising In Lagos! by Pygru: 3:53pm On Aug 26, 2013
nku5: @op - unfortunately real lagosians have left the threat to grow unchecked into the monster it has become today. I used to like tinubu because of his pro-democracy leanings during june 12. i started to look at the man with corner eye when he arranged his thugs to stone gani fawehinmi at igbosere high court when the late activist challenged his toronto certificate in 1999. He intelligently suppressed ALL criticism and indoctrinated his followers to do the same. His first deputy governor tried to speak but no one listened

The man has his jackboots i.e. KAI, lastma, some other strange looking guys in boots and uniforms etc all over the state so it will be next to impossible to stage any uprising. the only hope lagosians have is to vote his party out
PoliticsRe: Stealing Lekki: A Must Watch Documentary On How Tinubu Stole Lekki by Pygru: 2:54pm On Aug 26, 2013
redsun: Mannn!Nigerian politicians are like wolves,they eat their victims alive.
Christianity EtcRe: First Ever E-Convention, Grace 2013, has begun!!! by Pygru: 7:59pm On Aug 25, 2013
Pastor Kun: huhhuh
huh huh undecided
Christianity EtcRe: First Ever E-Convention, Grace 2013, has begun!!! by Pygru: 6:38pm On Aug 25, 2013
Pastor Kun: Stop having sour grapes just because you and your cohorts who believe in diluting the gospel were not invited to be speakers. The tithe doctrine by it's very nature denies the grace gospel and anybody that believes a christian must tithe certainly doesn't understand the concept of grace which christ's gospel brings. So why should such a person be invited to speak on a topic he/she does not fully grasphuh
Smh smh
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by Pygru: 5:43pm On Aug 25, 2013
Ajibam: Complaint thread not ABUSE thread
Seun: Please contact mukina2 and Obinoscopy for training.
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by Pygru: 5:31pm On Aug 25, 2013
Smh undecided angry
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by Pygru: 5:00pm On Aug 25, 2013
Ajibam: Respect your moderator Pls
hehehehe
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by Pygru: 1:38pm On Aug 25, 2013
Ajibam: That's why I didn't Ban you,,,but please don't use it again
shocked shocked shocked
this joke no funny again oo
Christianity EtcRe: Questions? Comments? Complaints? Talk To The Moderators Here by Pygru: 12:41pm On Aug 25, 2013
grin grin grin
ok ooooooo
Nairaland GeneralRe: Please drop advice for the Three New Mods in this section by Pygru: 12:42am On Aug 25, 2013
Mintayo: well,i guess that 'hit' you? No?
'shock me' by doing something new,something edifying!
71 likes!!!
PoliticsRe: Sule Lamido: APC Is Political Fraud by Pygru: 12:07am On Aug 25, 2013
I laugh at it more because the entire contraption is a creation of pain and anger. It is not about Nigeria. They are people who failed to make it in their political parties who think by coming together they can make it.
well said!
PoliticsRe: “El-Rufai’s Intelligence Is Governed By ego” – Reno Omokri by Pygru: 11:57pm On Aug 24, 2013
His main issue is that his emotional intelligence never peaked at the same level as his Intelligence Quotient.
ouch!!! grin grin grin
PoliticsRe: Bakare Attacks Lagos Over N72m Land Charge by Pygru: 11:53pm On Aug 24, 2013
Dee60: Very unfair - we will one day find out what they have been using the money for, after ACN is voted out of Lagos.
PoliticsRe: 2015: Moderator Afam4eva Promises To Campaign For GEJ On Nairaland by Pygru: 11:46pm On Aug 24, 2013
Jarus: Gubernatorial: Fashola (ACN)
Presidency: Buhari (CPC)
https://www.nairaland.com/642325/how-vote-2011#8083165

Jarus: The same way Jonathan resigned from presidency or did not identify with a political party because he is the president of all Nigerians; the same way Fashola did not identify with ACN because he is the father of all Lagosians, abi? shocked shocked shocked

Anybody that is not intelligent enough to distinguish between personal and official opinions is not fit to be here. Anybody that has to depend on Mod to form political opinion needs to have his educational qualifications -if he has any- questioned.
cheesy cheesy cheesy
https://www.nairaland.com/611008/report-efforts-buhari-bakare-team-here
Nairaland GeneralRe: ATTENTION Seun Osewa: Afam4ever Has Lost Moral Authority To Be A Moderator by Pygru: 11:38pm On Aug 24, 2013
Jarus: The same way Jonathan resigned from presidency or did not identify with a political party because he is the president of all Nigerians; the same way Fashola did not identify with ACN because he is the father of all Lagosians, abi? shocked shocked shocked

Anybody that is not intelligent enough to distinguish between personal and official opinions is not fit to be here. Anybody that has to depend on Mod to form political opinion needs to have his educational qualifications -if he has any- questioned.
https://www.nairaland.com/629380/nairaland-moderators-compromised-aisha-should#7968524
Nairaland GeneralRe: ATTENTION Seun Osewa: Afam4ever Has Lost Moral Authority To Be A Moderator by Pygru: 11:33pm On Aug 24, 2013
Mod!!
Jarus: Gubernatorial: Fashola (ACN)
Presidency: Buhari (CPC)
https://www.nairaland.com/642325/how-vote-2011#8083165

Super Mod!!!
semid4lyfe: So Ayatollah Bin Buhari supporters still have delusions of victory in the presidential election despite the thumping the CPC got this past Saturday? shocked grin

Wow! It's true dreams die hard sha. You all had better wake up and smell the coffee cos what happened on Saturday is just a tip of the iceberg.

Jonathan will clear the South West, South East, South South and North Central and do well enough in the North East and North West to win on the first ballot.

Obviously all you CPC goons are still in cuckooland. . .Wake up I say grin

Still I wish everyone and Nigeria GOODLUCK

Fresh Air 2011. . .vote Goodluck Ebele Azikiwe Jonathan for President
https://www.nairaland.com/643644/im-feeling-sorry-buhari#8100849
Nairaland GeneralRe: Seun, I Demand The Removal Of AFAM4EVER!! by Pygru: 11:23pm On Aug 24, 2013
PoliticsRe: Report Your Efforts On Buhari-bakare Team Here by Pygru: 11:16pm On Aug 24, 2013
nwabobo: So sad all the effort ended in futility and they are at it again.
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PoliticsRe: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by Pygru: 11:09pm On Aug 24, 2013
[quote author=Red_Mullet]Katz...you are talking in an ideal context..

There is no precedent like what he just did tonite..if there is...point me to it.

There is no guarantee that his personal beliefs won't interfere in his sense of judgment...

On this issue... I disagree with your stand....Afam has no biz as a mod on this section any longer.[/quote]https://www.nairaland.com/611008/report-efforts-buhari-bakare-team-here
PoliticsRe: I Will Vote For Jonathan In 2015. What About You? by Pygru: 11:06pm On Aug 24, 2013
https://www.nairaland.com/611008/report-efforts-buhari-bakare-team-here
PoliticsRe: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by Pygru: 10:58pm On Aug 24, 2013
cheesy cheesy cheesy
Jarus: Gubernatorial: Fashola (ACN)
Presidency: Buhari (CPC)
https://www.nairaland.com/642325/how-vote-2011#8083165
PoliticsRe: Nairaland Moderators Are Compromised: Aisha Should Resign Honourably by Pygru: 10:52pm On Aug 24, 2013
Drexel Mars: Wasn't she removed? You are slow.
sharap!
No be because of that she commot.
PoliticsRe: Let's Have Your Complaints, Suggestions & Enquiries Here by Pygru: 10:47pm On Aug 24, 2013
[quote author=Red_Mullet]You should be the one to keep quiet!

Is Aisha and Jarus still mods here?

Why are you Afam supporters clutching to tree leaves?[/quote]historical precedence grin grin grin

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