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ghettochyk:

ndi Igbo, o gini n'afio? long time, no see.

ele ngaa everybody gara?

Chineke nna nke Ibeku!!
GC na eye be this?

yes o,eme go kwa m baptism ozo
ndi iro m di plural

darfur o ka no ndu ka o si n'onwu bilie?

davidylan:


Lies:
he's muslim

That one right there would have ruined the poor man.
I would have rejected him too if that lie had any shred of truth in it

They should leave the man alone na
haba
do they want him to kill himself for them?

you have all carefully avoided my response.
How could a 2 year old have bia bia?

Identifying the Antichrist

He will be a leader from the European Union or of Roman descent:

He will "confirm" a seven-year peace covenant between Israel and her enemies:



The Antichrist's name will somehow equal or he will have a connection to the number 666:

He will be slain (assassinated) sometime within the first 3 1/2 years of the seven-year peace plan:

The Antichrist will somehow be satanically resurrected prior to making a claim to deity:


He will break his peace treaty with Israel 3 1/2 years into the plan, enter a rebuilt Holy Temple of the Jews, and desecrate it by proclaiming himself to be God:

This event is called "the abomination of desolation" and can be found in Daniel 9:27, Revelation 13:6, 2nd Thessalonians 2:4, and Matthew 24:15.

His claim to be God will be supported by many signs:

He will exercise global control for the final 3 1/2 years politically, religiously, militarily, and economically:

He will attempt to kill all Jews and Christians after proclaiming himself to be God:

The Antichrist will make Adolf Hitler look like a guy you'D want to have over for dinner by comparison when this happens. As the Jewish people flee for their lives, he will pursue them relentlessly, killing a majority of them. Some of the Jews will make it to a place God has prepared for them in the wilderness where He will feed them and care for them as He did as they sought the Promised Land. Most students of prophecy believe this place is Petra, Jordan.


He will gather the armies of the world to fight against the Lord and will be defeated:

How long will it be until the Antichrist's arrival?

There really isn't any way to know when the Antichrist will rise to power, but the governments of the world are currently seeking a peace deal that will cease the endless cycle of violence in the Middle East between Israel and all her enemies. The effort has been going on for years with no let-up in sight. I don't know how long it will be, but rest assured it will be soon.

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http://www.rapturealert.com/antichrist.html

Book 008, Number 3428:

Zainab daughter of Abu Salama reported: I heard Umm Salama, the wife of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon himy, saying to 'A'isha: By Allah, I do not like to be seen by a young boy who has passed the period of fosterage, whereupon she ('A'isha) said: Why is it so? Sahla daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) and said: Allah's Messenger, I swear by Allah that I see in the face of Abu Hudhaifa (the signs of disgust) on account of entering of Salim (in the house), whereupon Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) said: Suckle him. She (Sahla bint Suhail) said: He has a beard. But he (again) said: Suckle him, and it would remove what is there (expression of disgust) on the face of Abu Hudhaifa. She said: (I did that) and, by Allah, I did not see (any sign of disgust) on the face of Abu Hadhaifa.


olabowole,the 2 year old get bia bia?
wonders shall never cease

Usually when one is speaking the truth,you don't have to shout to the roof tops to be heard.
Bomany said earlier there was nothing like suckling a male in Islam and I produced several Sahih hadoths,he disappeared and reappered with phoney explanations.
This is the hadith again where Mohammed asked a woman to suckle ie breastfeed her male "houseguest"

'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hadhaifa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i. e. the daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he understands what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, perceive that something (rankles) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa, [b]whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said to her: Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the rankling) which Abu Hudhaifa feels in his heart will disappear. She returned and said: So I suckled him, and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa disappeared.[/b]Sahih Muslim 8:3425

see more
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/nursing_of_adults.htm

and this is your best explanation @ olabs copied from some site.

My comment: Please consider that the age of the boy is not given, here. It is even assuming that the ahadith is not complete. For the sake of argument, the ahadith can never be Sahih, must be clasified as weak, with a strong affirmation that it is a fabrication. If we take the opposite view and believe that it is an ahadith that it is not weak and not fabricated, we will see that the ahadith was left as incomplete, with the dubious distinction to lie us into the wrong view point, away from Qur'an and the over whelming evidence from other ahadiths and sunnah that will compel us, to know that the truth. We do know that some young boys, as young as betwwen 3 to 5 years old can be aware of sexuality. I know becaus of my very young nephew, who is now 33. The boy or male in the ahadith could have been that young, capable of being left alone to go and come as he wished, in a crimelesss Madina, being freed and no more a slave, a benefit he derived from islam. Since we do not know the age of the boy, could he be even be as young as between 2 and 3? There is no way that a person can prove to me that he was a grown man, say 20 years old when this ahadith was proposed! It would never have been suggested, considering what we know from Qur'an, and all the ahadith that speak against nudity and sexuality with others except with the husband!

See how you guys can be so verbose hoping to confuse your readers with a multitude of words.
I'm a whole lot smarter than that.
Questions

1. How can your responder place the boy at 2 or 3, when the hadith clearly states he had attained puberty?
do you suppose that we didn't see that? Do your men reach puberty at 2 and 3?

2. Assuming he was 2 for the sake of this exercise, would a grown woman be concerned that a 2 year year old would be having the hots for her necessitating it to be a concern such that allah's prophet would propose a remedy to forestall this?

are you kidding me?

then littleb says this

Salim (in this Hadith) is Salim ibn Ma’qal…Abu Hudhayfa had adopted him in accordance with the customs of the Arabs. He (Salim) had been brought up and raised by Abu Hudhayfa and his wife as their own son. When the verse of the Qur’an “Call them (your adopted children) by (the names of) their (real) fathers….” (Surah al-Ahzab, V: 5) was revealed, the ruling of adopting children was abrogated (in that one can no longer consider an adopted son to be one’s own). However, Salim continued to reside and enter the house of Sahla (the wife of Abu Hudhayfa) as he was a minor. When he grew old and came close to puberty, both Abu Hudhayfa and Sahla disliked the idea of him entering freely upon Sahla, but they found it difficult to mention this to him, given the fact that he had lived with them (and was brought up by them), hence they asked the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) regarding this. The Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) said to Sahla: “Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the dislike) which Abu Hudhayfa feels in his heart will disappear” hence she suckled him and it so happened (i.e. the dislike of Abu Hudhayfa disappeared)…” (al-Mufhim lima Ashkal min talkhis Kitab Muslim, 4/186, Dar Ibn Kathir print)".

Now, there is authentic testification to this that this is a special consideration for Hudaifa family alone and not general. The kayfiyah(how) the suckle was performed was clealy stated in Al-kitab Atabaqat by Ibn Sad and several other literatures. Summary of this facts are enumerated below:

1. Sahla would pour her breast-milk into a utensil each day for five continuous days and Salim would drink from it as its wrong for him to see her  unclothedness. (Al-kitab Atabqat 8/271 )

2. Suckling does not allowed beyond two years old in acordance with sharia as agreed by scholars and supported by Quran.

3. All the wives of the prophet rejected this idea and consider that of Hudaifa's wife as a special consideration as narated in the following hadith:
  “Umm Salama, the wife of Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon
him), used to say that all the wives of the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) rejected the idea that one can come to them (without observing the rules of Hijab) with this type of breastfeeding (i.e. the suckling of an adult), hence they said to A’isha (Allah be pleased with her): “By Allah, we do not consider this but a dispensation given by the Messenger of Allah (Allah bless him & give him peace) for Salim. No one is to be allowed to enter (our houses) with this type of fosterage(having been suckled after the proper period) and we do not subscribe to this view.” (Sahih Muslim, Bk 8, Number 3429)

This is getting downright ridiculous
At least you start off truthfully agreeing that the child was not a 2 year old unlike olabowale's copied explanation would want us to believe
but then you tell us the "breastfeeding" was only to children under the age of 2?
Yet you call their's a special circumstance.
It is special because the woman sucked a grown up here ? since Aisha (by your own words) rejected this type of breast feeding.
Then you turn a corner and tell us the woman poured her breast milk in a cup for the boy to drink when the hadith says nothing of such.
Or do you suppose that any grown woman with breasts can express breast milk whenever she wills?

In case you don't know,this is the dictionary definition of suckle
v[b].   tr.


To cause or allow to take milk at the breast or udder; nurse.
To take milk at the breast or udder of.
To take in as sustenance; have as nourishment.
To nourish as if with the milk of the breast; nurture: "a pagan suckled in a creed outworn" (William Wordsworth). [/b]

The word is an old one and whatever desciption you give it to make it sound politically correct will not help you.
To suckle is to suck at the breast not to drink from a cup.

You are not deceiving anyone here and neither are your authors.
The act of suckling requires latching unto a nipple with or without milk.
With milk because it's referring to a baby.

Jesus is indeed Lord of all
pilgrim1!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


love u love love u love u with the sweet sweet love of our God.
I missed you
I prayed for you
I'm happy to see you
Glad to know that you're doing well.
I have learnt alot from you and I admire your intelligence.





remember our threads with babs and olabowale

even you too onyinye?
is there no party going on in Houston?
Mr Right  with fat pocket  may be there waiting and here you are talking to strangers  

bia,una no dey go out on dates
abi na hia una dey do una dating
e-love
how young young people like una go dey internet for saturday.
how una go fit catch the fishes na?

I see you carefully avoided the hadith to proceed with altaquiyyah AKA deceptions.
I'm smarter than that.
Is your anger the fact that the hadiths are in a non Muslim site?
The highest Islamic body in Egypt recently issued a fatwa based on that hadith and suckling palours are now available for woem to suckle their male co workers so that they could work together since they are now haram to each other after that.
I'm sure I'm teaching you things you never heard of.
This whole discusion may be deleted by tomorrow but the memory of the new knowledge will remain with you.
happy fasting

please where did you shut me up?
I've given you hard core proof and you're grasping at straws

BOMANY:



I have shut up you in two former threads about Islam, and I promise to keep doing. I wish you good luck next time but you will never get it

well not yet.
a hadith to support what i said about suckling


'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported that Salim, the freed slave of Abu Hadhaifa, lived with him and his family in their house. She (i. e. the daughter of Suhail came to Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) and said: Salim has attained (puberty) as men attain, and he understands what they understand, and he enters our house freely, I, however, perceive that something (rankles) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa, whereupon Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) said to her: Suckle him and you would become unlawful for him, and (the rankling) which Abu Hudhaifa feels in his heart will disappear. She returned and said: So I suckled him, and what (was there) in the heart of Abu Hudhaifa disappeared.
Sahih Muslim 8:3425

see more
http://www.answering-islam.org/Shamoun/nursing_of_adults.htm

from 2005

The Saudi Arabian authorities have expressed anger over the continuous stay of about 27,000 Nigerians, and urged Nigeria to do everything to repatriate them, state media reported in Friday.

Alhaji Abdullahi Tanko, Nigeria's minister of state for foreign affairs, said that his Saudi counterpart had written him a strongly worded letter threatening to reduce the country's slot for next Haji over the 27,000 Nigerians, said the News Agency of Nigeria.

"The Saudi authorities have warned that the figures (27,000) would be subtracted from the 65,000 quota allocated to Nigeria for annual pilgrimage" if the Nigerian government fails to take action, Tanko said.

With such threat on its head, Tanko said the government was doing everything possible to bring home its citizens.

na for saudi them dey dey pack their own shait

They hustle around Middle East and North Africa.
washing cars, doing maiguard, boi boi and eating off the dust bins
They are the modern slave hands of Arabia.
and every now and then they are rounded up and beheaded.

Britain did a study and Pakistani Muslims who are only 3% of births have 1 in 3 births with congenital defects.The underlying factor being a result of inbreeding and you call it lies.
Keep deceiving yourself.
Your wife will some give you a baby with 2 buttholes and no private.
This is your warning.
I already gave you the article on the first page.
We do not keep it in the family.
There are plenty women out there why bed your own flesh and blood?

with the above submission,I'm done with the thread

Christianity is after the coming of Christ.
Start from Matthew buddy

_{before you paste a whole website on nairaland}

The religious forum is now boring anyway.
too partial to suit certain interest groups.
nigeria1@ can become the moderator at least his maps and aerial photos will inject some life and resurrect the once vibrant section
deepzone can assist him

4 Play:

I don't think you can have one without the other,sizeable boobs without wholesome cleavage. Don't discount the wonderbra effect.
She is not fat but she is carrying a few extra pounds.

lust of the eyes.
May jehovah have mercy on you

Jakumo:

Now at least now Yar Adua can respond to critics who claim that he has accomplished nothing in office, by replying that he has defeated DEATH itself, and triumphantly returned to the land of the living.   Nothing more should henceforth be demanded or expected from our death-defying Maximum Leader, given that he has overcome mortality in a way that neither Abacha or Elvis could attempt. 

With Yar Adua having performed this inspirational miracle, all patriotic Nigerians must now STOP whimpering about the fact that the entire nation remains in a permanent electrical blackout, or that the country's highways are now governed by armed robbers.

ROFL
This is hilarious.
Chei this jakumo guy, love your humor to the max.

The man defeated death I tell ya
and he has a kidney to prove it !

Sisikill:

I SUPPORT 1000000%!!!!

Where do I sign? Where do I sign? Oh you should also know I am good at forgery, so however many siggies we need. . . 100, 1000, 10,000, I can do 'em easy! I'll do anything to make sure I never, ever have to

See another movie with a senseles name like Roses Above and Beyond the Thorns of a Tree - Pt 1 -45.

See RMD in Dungarees Jean shorts and face cap acting like a 12yrs old.

See RMD in Dungrarees Jean shorts and face cap acting like a 17yrs old.

See RMD in Dungarees Jean shorts and face cap acting like a 22yrs old (Yeah, somehow. . . they've convinced themselves a grown man looking like a fool = Ayounge)

Hear Jim Iyke speak in the retarded way he thinks is cute.

See Noah Ramsey or Ramsey Noah. . . whatever the heck his name is squinting his eyes because that's the he can play romantic man.

Watch Noah Ramsey or Ramsey Noah sweat like a pig, his armpit dripping like shower. . . while trying to be romantic because of the lighting they use.

Listen to song sang in the most annoying, nerve grating voice ever, telling you the entire movie withing the first 5 mins. It's like. . . Okay, thanks for that. Next!

Watch a movie shot with a shaky camera by the time you are done, you wonder if you just took a ride on a ferris wheel. God help you if you stand up immediately afterwards, you will find yourself yakata on the floor because of dizziness.

Listen to people shout "O de gbe koruba yen wa si bi" in the movie and wonder. . . which Koroba? What does Koruba have to do with a love scene? Abi have Nigerians found a way to use Bucket as a intimacy gadget? Only for you to realize it's not part of the movie, it's the background noise the editor did not see fit to clean up before selling it.


Ay! The more I think about, the more determined I am to sign this petition. Did I say 10,000? Forget that. . . 100,000 siggies all from me.

More grease to your elbow, my good man! God speed!

The one that pains me is RMD with that his well rounded Ikebe
why should such a fine well spoken man have ikebe almost as big as mine ?
I hate the shots of him from the back.
His "madam" man hips are just too much for my liking

yemmyse:

Debate, I don't mind. Referendum, I don't mind. Peaceful breakaway, no wahala. But WAR, hell no. Most of u guys are there in foreign countries 'sittting pretty' and clamouring for war in Nigerian. How many of u will come back home to fight the world?

Everyday I think of that bag of soured moi moi called Nigeria,I wish they had let my father and grandfathers breakaway peacefully to Biafra.
I regret being a part of that nation.
The northern Namas have killed us.
josboy of course Britain sided with awusa people.
How colonial masters no go side with the mumus in the bunch.
They are in love with people  wey no get much commonsense.
They are easier to work with.
Too bad Awolowo and the rest did not see what our fathers saw
I can assure you most Yorubas now see what the Igbo man saw.
Una with una gworo mentality don kill us

Look at a whole awusa tribe that prides itself as one of  the largest group in Nigeria,how many are on nairaland to begin with?
This is a microcosm of Nigeria
computers never reach una place?
How many people here outside of Nigeria know any Hausas?
Itibolibos AKA mumu illiterate blockheads
Their females are somewhere locked in dungeons from the age of 6 taking turns  to service their 50 year old husbands while the men are chasing livestock or sharpening their cutlasses in preparation for the next jihad
blood suckers

Tayo-D:

@Queenisha,
This is not all the Republicans are fighting for. Infact, the Republican party of today has become the Democratic party of yesterday, while the Democratic party of yesterday is gradually turning itself into a Socialist Party.

I do not vote along party lines but on people who are most aligned with my philosphy. I believe in freedom, and as someone said, I'm not sure if it is Reagan or Lincoln, "The Government that can give you everything is the same Govt taht can take everything away from you." I therefore want a smaller govt and free trade.

Who represents this more between the two evils called DNC and RNC? It is obviously the RNC. The DNC preach freedom but thrives on control. They want to control everything from what we eat to how we live. Can you imagine them banning deep fried foods at their convention? And to think one of their Senators that came to the RNC Convention was seen eating deep fried food! That is how much control they want to exact. They deprive us of choices with the mantra that the Govt knows best what is good for me. Theirs is a Nanny State and I totally don't need a baby sitter.

Oh, banning deep fried food is the beef?
I mean an example of what's wrong with the party?
God have mercy.
They took out the soda machine and deep fried food at my children's school and we all love it.
Is it wrong for a private party to choose it's menu at a convention ?
You call that control ?
This is ridiculous
I'm speechless