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LordReed:
Great. So does energy change?

Are we now in elementary school? Energy can change but is never destroyed

LordReed:
Quin.these questions.

First of all you use AI more than me. I THINK! That's what I'm good at. I'm NOT good at regurgitation.

I already answered this. I asked you, how do you know anything? We don't know anything finally. It is either something is logical or it is not.
It is logical that whatever caused the Big Bang is outside the Big Bang!

DiarisGodoo:
Igbos never said we are Egyptians or Moors or anything else. Other tribes may say such but not Igbos. We have only ever said we came from ancient Egypt when Eri, son of Gad, grandson of Jacob, escaped from Egypt with his family and went south (probably with Egyptians in hot pursuit). It is an oral tradition that was there long before slave trade (never mind what Europeans say), and sometime in the future advanced scientific methods will be used to determine that the Igbo oral tradition was right all along.

Meanwhile here's the beginning of "No Longer at Ease" by Chinua Achebe, a sort of sequal to "Things Fall Apart". Achebe wrote it at 26.
Tell me if you were able to resist buying and reading the rest of book

I've read the excerpt and will read it again. Not bad. Is it possible to get it free online? Kobojunkie what you think?

DMCA:
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u should be wild too

Wild, yes. Yaba Left wild, no!

LordReed:
You find it convoluted because you don't want to reason. If your god created energy then energy didn't exist until the act of creation. Which is nonsense because then it means you are saying your god existed WITHOUT any energy until it was created.

Energy existed before the big bang so it was not created. Meanwhile was it not you who said energy cannot be created?

This is what I mean by convoluted. God is energy -,that's the essence of God. That's what sustains his creation!

LordReed:
The question again HOW do you know? You conjectured? You guessed? You have evidence? HOW do you KNOW?

See question. HOW do you yourself know anything? Certain things make logical sense. It DOES NOT make logical sense that the universe has always existed - which is your position!

LordReed:
LoLz! Is that why you keep dodging questions?


You still haven't answered the question bro.

Ok, say exactly what question I haven't answered!

LordReed:
Ok so you don't know you are just guessing.

You keep saying this. We KNOW time, space, and matter started with the Big Bang. God is before that therefore he is timeless, spaceless, and immaterial!

DMCA:
na category of any medication wey dem d give person as required.
for dis case i mean say dem chuk me yaba left people injection

Oh ok, I googled it. "Take as needed" medication

RealityKings1:
Good point.
The controller is always outside the main system

Thanks
Exactly

LordReed:
QuinQ still waiting for an answer.

LoLz. How are you finding the discussion? Do you still think I was defeated? Bwahahahahahahaha!

Yes of course. Very defeated. It has been proven that universe can't be eternal

LordReed:
Yes MEASUREABLE THINGS.

My question is where did energy come from? You CANNOT say your god created it because it will mean your god existed at some point without energy which would be a dumb claim. And you cannot claim energy always existed which will invalidate the necessity for a god. Either way your case is screwed.

I find your reasoning rather convoluted. Are you saying God only creates what he doesn't have??
Why can't God create "energy" via the big bang

LordReed:
Ask AI (your favourite method) if there is an outside to the universe. LoLz.

Meanwhile are you conceding that you don't KNOW, that you are merely conjecturing this god?

You probably use AI more than me. I THINK!!! Any AI I use is to convince you that AI agrees with my thought process.
Big bang is settled science. Time, space, and matter started with the big bang. Common sense ought tell you that something caused the big bang and that thing sits outside the big bang and therefore sits outside space and time and matter!

DMCA:

Na wa for u o..
Sebi u d call me Yaba

My question is, what is PRN?

CoolUsername:
This is a self-defeating argument. One event preceding another already means time exists. To say something preceded the big bang is essentially saying that time existed before the beginning of time. This is incoherent.

You are confusing time with movement. You're saying time does not exist if there is no movement, and that's not true. Time can exist as a background dimension—a geometric grid—regardless of whether matter or energy is actively moving or not.
There's also possibility of a "block universe" where the past, present, and future all exist simultaneously. In this framework, the universe is a static, unchanging geometric structure, and time serves as the framework connecting these frozen events rather than a "ticking" clock!

CoolUsername:
This is a self-defeating argument. One event preceding another already means time exists. To say something preceded the big bang is essentially saying that time existed before the beginning of time. This is incoherent.

Superman is material. God is immaterial

LordReed:
Height is a quality of the space time continuum so in essence it would be asking where did the space time continuum come from. Bro you are just dodging the question because you know it will skewer what you are trying to establish. If you claim your god created energy then it means your god exists without energy which just further strengthens the point that your god is nonexistent. Energy can be measured, immaterial as it is. The same cannot be said for your magic space wizard that lives in a no space, no time locus (which just means it doesn't exist).

What does this statement mean?:
If you claim your god created energy then it means your god exists without energy

Bottom line, yiu can't point to anything and say this is height. Likewise energy. They are attributes we assign to things

CoolUsername:
The burden of proof is on you to establish how anything can exist outside of spacetime. If you cannot establish that, your argument fails at its premise

LordReed:
Bro you just keep dodging the questions. How do you know it exists in this no place, no time locus? Don't dodge.

But scientists and mathematicians have determined there are upwards of 12 dimensions, yet it is impossible for you to conceive of there being more than 4.
We KNOW we don't know about 99% of what there is to know.

physical space and time had a beginning (the Big Bang), meaning whatever caused or sustained them must logically precede and sit outside them!

LordReed:
LoLz. If humans cannot understand it then how did you get to know it exists in this no place, no time locus?

CoolUsername:
The burden of proof is on you to establish how anything can exist outside of spacetime. If you cannot establish that, your argument fails at its premise

We intrinsically know there are things we don't know and can't even conceive of. Example, diagram below is how things really are; but we can't conceive it. Another example, illusion of time - only now is real. Another example, illusion of free will

LordReed:
Bro energy is a physical quantity that can be measured. It definitely is a thing. BTW you didn't answer the question, where it it come from?

We are discussing wether material things can be eternal. Energy is not material anything. It is property we assign to things. Asking where it came from is like asking where height came from!

CoolUsername:
No, that is an incoherent statement. It is meaningless to exist outside spacetime. You are essentially saying that the creator exists nowhere and never. This is the same thing as saying that the creator doesn't exist.

Are you saying humans understand everything?
There are things humans can't conceive of at all, can't even start to imagine - that's where the creator exists!

CoolUsername:
Events exist in the past and future. The present is such a miniscule and fleeting moment (10^-43 seconds) that there's no point bothering ourselves about it

But past and future don't actually exist. Only now exists

twilliamx:
Prostrate cancer is Real. Try dey fvck well to avoid story that toucbes

Which one be prostrate?
How come Catholic Priests don't have it?

LordReed:
Ok so where did energy come from?

cc: DeepSight

Energy is not a thing. Energy is immaterial. You can almost say there's no such thing as energy

CoolUsername:
Nothing is eternal in the past in the sense that it has existed for infinite time. The closest we can get to eternity is the age of the of the universe itself. This is because the universe is the spacetime continuum thus there has never been a time when it didn't exist. This doesn't mean it has existed for an infinite amount of time

This of course implies that a creator outside the entire system necessarily exists

Royaldescent:
If she's placating to the fair skinned Europeans then what are you doing under oath to Prince Hall who has an oath to the British crown?

Man, your morals are really hypocritical. And you expect men to raise bastards that were deceived into believing it waa their seed?

But of all these stories, including lies made up by soulless European Slavers and the Africans taught to mindlessly repeat them, non is so sad and so pathetic as a Louisiana Creole of Color like yourself saying his ancestors were tan people from Europe and that he has no African blood!

See third photo below for why you were compelled to use the word "secret" in your Secretbloodline moniker!

Royaldescent:
Oh. Slavery was just yam and peaches in Igboland. Slaves sacrificed. The article gets way more extensive than what I posted. Keep going though. I'll post the rest. Stay tuned.

She's probably regurgitating the lies Europeans made up to justify their atrocities and ease their conscience. She needed to be published in the New Yorker and she wouldn't get published unless she wrote something provocative like that, plus make it personal. It is like rappers needing to sound dirty or labels won't push their music.
Always ask yourself who wrote what you're reading, who controlled the narrative. Example, your "Aro" didn't write anything. Europeans wrote everything!

CoolUsername:
"Now" probably doesn't really exist. It may just be how we perceive time. It's a transient space that, at best, exists for the duration of planck time

You saying the present moment doesn’t exist.
Well, if it doesn't exist then nothing exists because things must exist in now otherwise they don't exist. Right?

CoolUsername:
Progression of events. This denotes change

But now is also time

DMCA:
Dem nack me PRN oh!

PRN?

Royaldescent:
Nigerian journalist and novelist Adaobi Tricia Nwaubani writes that one of her ancestors sold slaves, but argues that he should not be judged by today's standards or values.

Short presentational grey line
My great-grandfather, Nwaubani Ogogo Oriaku, was what I prefer to call a businessman, from the Igbo ethnic group of south-eastern Nigeria. He dealt in a number of goods, including tobacco and palm produce. He also sold human beings.

"He had agents who captured slaves from different places and brought them to him," my father told me.

Nwaubani Ogogo's slaves were sold through the ports of Calabar and Bonny in the south of what is today known as Nigeria.


People from ethnic groups along the coast, such as the Efik and Ijaw, usually acted as stevedores for the white merchants and as middlemen for Igbo traders like my great-grandfather.

They loaded and offloaded ships and supplied the foreigners with food and other provisions. They negotiated prices for slaves from the hinterlands, then collected royalties from both the sellers and buyers.

Like I said before and I would say anywhere including in Haiti and Nigeria, if any African was to have lead a slave revolt to end slavery then why didn't they lead revolts to do so in Africa? You quoted, When Things Fall Apart, I responded with, return to source to where they fell apart and put them back together. Instead of you trying to argue our history you should like Mr. Edochie concentrate yourself on Igbo culture there in Nigeria.

There was nothing like America-style chattel slavery anywhere in West Africa. So foolishly constantly asking why people didn't revolt slavery is symptomatic of your lying spirit. See below

As for the lady, what did you expect her to write?
That her lowly family narrowly escaped being shipped to America? Same way you lie about your ancestry is approximately what she's doing!

Royaldescent:
Toussaint wasn't a slave catcher or slave trader, he wasn't an African. Toussaint was a Creole. Some Creoles were born to slave mothers and that's just fact. It is not representative of their entire life because Toussaint was born free and his mother set free according to the Code de Nior, if the father is free then the child is free.

Mr known LIAR is at it again. Trying to confuse people!
The type of Creoles Toussaint Louverture and Jean-Jacques Dessalines were had nothing to do with your type of Creole. You are Creole because white men basically raped African women, while they were born to two enslaved fully African parents, but born in Haiti, making them Creole - which only denoted they were born in Haiti and not in Africa! See below