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DMCA:
don't try making me fall in love
did u miss me?

Loverboy is barracks!
What happened? Yaba Left put you in solitary?

Royaldescent:
**Toussaint Louverture: The Creole General of the Haitian Revolution**

### **1. His Creole Identity:**
- Toussaint *was* indeed a **Creole**, born free in Saint-Domingue (present-day Haiti) to an enslaved African mother and a French father—making him mixed (*mulatto*) by colonial definitions:
> - He was educated, bilingual (French/Creole), and had landownership before joining the revolution…
>> Unlike most African-born slaves who lacked such advantages! *(Source: Haitian Historians)*

### ***2**. Why This Matters***
Being a Creole:
> - Gave him prestige/social mobility that black Africans lacked…
>> But also made him distrusted by radical slave leaders post-revolution!


If your ancestors opposed Slavery then they would have lead the revolt in Africa. No, the truth is that your ancestors celebrated capturing slaves as long as it wasn't them.

Will you ever ONCE say something that is true? He was born enslaved!!! As were all the leaders of the revolution. He was NOT a Creole in the sense that you Louisiana Creoles are!!! He was NOT am admixture. He was fully and purely black African. Stop trying to put a spin!!!

Louisiana Cteoles of color like yourself ate NOT purely anything! They're an admixture of different races!!! Stop LYING!!

DeepSight:
The only things whose intrinsic nature is change are things that are not self-existent.

Like what?
What I mean is, for example, if the whole universe is inside God and God does not change but the universe can change inside God without God changing

AhmeduandOkopi:
There are no repentant olosho as there are no repentant terrorist.
Okafor's law runs inversely here...

Lie. Some women hated every second of it to the pont of becoming lesbians.
Okafor's law is NOT the problem, the problem is that she'd expect you to give her money every time you stick it in!

Royaldescent:
There is no actual portrait of Toussaint painted

Just think, you have gone through college all the way to old age believing the Haitian revolution was led by Mulatto Creoles. But for this thread you'd have kept believing same till death. Now just think of all the false things you currently believe which will turn out to be false long after you're dead!

DeepSight:
Here's a quick AI answer - (too busy sorry)

Eternal things are said to be immutable because they exist outside of time, have no potential to change, and are completely perfect. This idea comes from the core views of ancient thinkers like Plato and Parmenides.

Why Eternal Things Do Not Change

No Time: Eternal things do not live in time, so they cannot move from a past to a future state.

No Change: Change means losing an old trait and gaining a new one, which requires time and an unfinished nature.

Pure Being: Eternal objects have full reality and lack nothing, meaning they have no reason or way to change.

The Role of Perfection and Forms

Fixed Truth: Abstract ideas, like numbers or ideal shapes, always stay the same because they are completely true at all times.

No Decay: Things that can break or grow old are tied to the physical world, not the eternal world.

cc: LordReed, the man I am yet to conquer at logic.

How about him saying something whose intrinsic nature is change and therefore has eternally changed in it's "unchangingness", if you get me

Royaldescent:
There is no actual portrait of Toussaint painted

Below, how Toussaint Louverture was tricked by the lying French and tortured to death in prison

Royaldescent:
There is no actual portrait of Toussaint painted

No leader of the Haitian revolution was Mulatto, Mr LIAR! All were full-bodied Africans!

CoolUsername:
Nothing is eternal in the past in the sense that it has existed for infinite time. The closest we can get to eternity is the age of the of the universe itself. This is because the universe is the spacetime continuum thus there has never been a time when it didn't exist. This doesn't mean it has existed for an infinite amount of time

Depends on how you define time

Royaldescent:
There is no actual portrait of Toussaint painted whilst he was alive only description. And Toussaint was not Igbo which is the central point. You're always taking credit for other's achievements as if its your own. If Igbos want to brag about leading slave revolts then dig up a hero that lead a revolt against the Aro Confederacy. That's what I love about Peter Edochie movies he focuses upon ending corruption and improving traditions in Igboland. You focus abroad some where you have no claim or stake.

See below. Besides contemporaries, he himself also described himself!

How about your photographs taken 200 years before photography was invented, Mr LIAR?

DeepSight:
LordReed, you know how I have labored and labored to make this argument. Frankly its obvious. Anything that is eternal in the past will also be imutable. Only things which have a beginning can be subject to change. Its elementary in philosophical logic.

Really??!! This is entirely from my own intuitive common sense with no input from anywhere, without even intentional thought. I just KNEW anything that changes cannot always have existed. I haven't actually formulated exactly why, but I just intuitively knew it!

Good to see I'm not the only one. I wonder who else agrees with me and especially, WHY? (I still haven't formulated exactly why)
JimRohn, CoolUsername, FreeIgboho, Sojourner2000, FxMasterz, DoctorAyukebot, SeniorMan715, IykeSent, Tayorshd87, naturefellow, Treborblue, shinaola21, RavinWolf, Sirmwill, Mayflowa, eniorMan715, Kingsempires, Questionnaires, CJStarz

DiarisGodoo:
Non so blind as those who will not see. If someone doesn't want to see something even if you slap.him with it he still won't see it.

Or if someone is bent on seeing something that is not there (like he descended from tan people from Palestine), no amount of reasoning can make him not see it!

latieph:
See where the world is heading to
Encouragement of BASTARD is what you CHEATERS are praying for

Can you please patiently tell us how encouraging a man to finish raising a teenager he started raising from infancy means encouraging "bastards"?

Royaldescent:
Quin

Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn
Come all without, come all within
You'll not see nothing like the mighty Quinn

Here are some posts to revisit:
Jacob the LIAR posted photographs from "17th through 18th century" when photography was invented in 19th century!!

LIAR is still lying. Produce one photo of Toussaint Louverture where he is "very light skinned". Lyingly Posting Pierre Toussaint as Toussaint Louverture to try to confuse people!

Really laughable how you hang onto highly theoetical and speculative genetic science as gospel yet keep posting Japhet, Ham, Sham!

Royaldescent:
Japhet, Ham, Shem

You profess to staunchly believe DNA is infallible yet keep posting this "Ham, Shem, and Japhet" stuff!
Read below!

WatchYourSix:
U are on a very strong kind of weed…

If you have nothing to counter his argument, say the other guy is on weed!

DMCA:
tell am
as for me, if i no be biological papa, i no want be anybody papa

Yo! Hornƴ guy. What happened to you??
You no longer want colour of my pants?

LordReed:
That God doesn't exist so no I have no fears concerning it.

Always? When have you and I discussed it before?

Not me personally, but I've read you arguing it with people.
They always defeat you by telling you there has to be a first cause that has no cause that is entirely outside our existence. Otherwise how do you explain existence?!

Royaldescent:
You're not Egyptians. Egyptian are light skinned North Africans who are E1b1b. The Egyptians were conquered by the Nubians who are today's Sudanese people. The Nubians are Sub Saharan Africans of the E1ba1a and they are the fathers of all Sub Saharan Africans, Nubians are the largest tribe in Africa. You dismiss the light skinned North Africans as mixed race invaders but you are wrong. Pan Africans are wrong for labeling North Africans are Middle Eastern.

Igbos genetically are Sub Saharan Africans E1ba1ba haplagroup and the women are maternal haplagroup L1, L2 and L3. African Americans, Jamaicans and Haitians all came from West Africa. No where else did they come. If you came from the Middle East it would be documented and recorded even in oral history it would be recorded. But oral history can be unreliable so if you are Hebrew then where is your writing system?

The Igbos (which I emphatically am NOT!) say they came from Israel, and they're the only ones who make that claim in West Africa. My people encountered Europeans before the Igbos but we KNOW we didn't come from Israel!
Now, EVERYTHING aligns with Igbos being Israelites who came from Egypt or at least seriously mixing with such people. Their oral tradition, their language, their customs, their religion, etc. EVERY SINGLE THING EXCEPT DNA aligns with that!
So produce how people got samples of DNA of (now LOST) Israelites who sojourned in Egypt 4000 years ago and how they tested every single Igbo person against such DNA to find out that non of them was a match! That's what you should focus on doing NOT Ifa oracle.

* BTW about your new moniker, you should use something more accurate, like "LouisianaCreole".
That'll be honest, and much more descriptive!

WatchYourSix:
Go and read ur last comment …:u did bring up abortion regulation as a need to also regulate paternity test…. Ur style of dialogue is nauseating ..
Its like u have run out of reasons to justify your ideology so u just look for anything to say..

Pple actually just divorce and go their way…. So what are u saying again... ?? Are u on some type of weed

So scratch abortion. Focus on divorce. To be recognized as divorced and free to marry again you must go through a court process and at the end be awarded a certificate of divorce. Same way, you'd be given a document that says you can proceed with DNA test.

Royaldescent:
# The Divine Blueprint: The Geometric Link Between Ifá Wisdom and DNA

We often view modern science and ancient spirituality as parallel lines destined never to meet. We assume that the high-tech mapping of the human genome belongs to an entirely different realm of intelligence than the centuries-old oral traditions of West Africa. Yet, when we peel back the surface of both systems, we find an identical mathematical infrastructure.

The ancient Ifá oracle system of the Yoruba people and the genetic code that writes all biological life share an exact structural architecture. Both function as cosmic filing cabinets, utilizing a geometric binary code to organize, store, and retrieve the complex information of existence.

---

## The Binary Code of Life and Destiny

At its core, all complex data requires a base language to organize it. In modern computing, this is the binary system of `0` and `1`. In the natural and spiritual worlds, the structure follows a beautifully identical pattern.

### 1. The Base Units: Binary Polarity
* **The DNA Strand:** The genetic code relies on polarity—the presence or absence of specific hydrogen bonds across four nitrogenous bases (Adenine, Thymine, Cytosine, Guanine).
* **The Ifá Trays:** In a divination ceremony, the Babalawo (priest) marks sacred powder on a wooden tray. The code relies on a binary choice: a single mark (`I`) or a double mark (`II`).

### 2. The Combined Unit: The 4-Position Code
* **The Genetic Nibble:** In computing and chemistry, sequence matters. DNA translates its bases into sequences that form the foundational steps of biological blueprints.
* **The Tetragram:** An Ifá practitioner generates a column of four binary markers. This four-position layout creates a distinct geometric shape known as a tetragram, which serves as the foundational unit of the oracle's alphabet.

### 3. The 8-Bit Byte: 256 Permutations
* **The Biological Blueprint:** In genetics, codons combine to create amino acids. The system operates on a multi-layered matrix to map every physical trait, organ, and biological command of a living organism.
* **The Odù Ifá:** In Ifá, two columns of tetragrams are joined together to form an 8-position matrix (an 8-bit byte). Mathematical probability dictates that this generates exactly **256 unique combinations**, known as the *Odù Ifá*. Each Odù acts as a cosmic chapter containing thousands of verses of poetry, medicine, and historical archetypes.

---

## The Infrastructure of Information

* **The Data Bits:**
* Ifá: Single / Double (`I` or `II`)
* DNA: Base Pairs (Adenine, Thymine, Cytosine, Guanine)
* Computer Code: Bits (`0` or `1`)

* **The Code Sequence:**
* Ifá: 4-Mark Column (Tetragram)
* DNA: 3-Base Codon Sequence
* Computer Code: 4-Bit Nibble

* **The Blueprint:**
* Ifá: 256 Odù Chapters
* DNA: 64 Genetic Codons Matrix
* Computer Code: 256-Value Byte (8-bit)

---

## Reading the Cosmic Library

The parallel deepens when we examine how this information is retrieved. In a living cell, molecular machinery reads the genetic code, translating the geometric arrangement of bases into proteins that build physical life.

In the Latin, African, and New World traditions where Ifá and its sister systems traveled, information retrieval follows the exact same mechanical logic. The Babalawo reads the geometric pattern generated on the tray. That specific 8-bit configuration unlocks a highly precise file in an immense, unwritten library of oral wisdom.

This is not a matter of random superstition; it is an ancient application of advanced information theory. Long before Western science mapped the double helix, ancient sages recognized that the universe organizes itself through geometric code. Whether writing the instructions for a cell or mapping the archetypal destiny of a human soul, the cosmos uses the exact same digital blueprint.

Not only can Ifa Oracle definitely prove African Americans and Igbos are not Middle Eastern but also modern genetics which borrowed heavily from Ifa Oracle without giving credit. Ifa Oracle can also tell if that child is the bastard of your enemy.

You saying all this so you can avoid having to tell us exactly how they were able to collect DNA from LOST Tribes of Israel when they sojourned in Egypt some 4000 years ago!

Royaldescent:
# The Divine Blueprint: The Geometric Link Between Ifá Wisdom and DNA

We often view modern science and ancient spirituality as parallel lines destined never to meet. We assume that the high-tech mapping of the human genome belongs to an entirely different realm of intelligence than the centuries-old oral traditions of West Africa. Yet, when we peel back the surface of both systems, we find an identical mathematical infrastructure.

The ancient Ifá oracle system of the Yoruba people and the genetic code that writes all biological life share an exact structural architecture. Both function as cosmic filing cabinets, utilizing a geometric binary code to organize, store, and retrieve the complex information of existence.

---

## The Binary Code of Life and Destiny

At its core, all complex data requires a base language to organize it. In modern computing, this is the binary system of `0` and `1`. In the natural and spiritual worlds, the structure follows a beautifully identical pattern.

### 1. The Base Units: Binary Polarity
* **The DNA Strand:** The genetic code relies on polarity—the presence or absence of specific hydrogen bonds across four nitrogenous bases (Adenine, Thymine, Cytosine, Guanine).
* **The Ifá Trays:** In a divination ceremony, the Babalawo (priest) marks sacred powder on a wooden tray. The code relies on a binary choice: a single mark (`I`) or a double mark (`II`).

### 2. The Combined Unit: The 4-Position Code
* **The Genetic Nibble:** In computing and chemistry, sequence matters. DNA translates its bases into sequences that form the foundational steps of biological blueprints.
* **The Tetragram:** An Ifá practitioner generates a column of four binary markers. This four-position layout creates a distinct geometric shape known as a tetragram, which serves as the foundational unit of the oracle's alphabet.

### 3. The 8-Bit Byte: 256 Permutations
* **The Biological Blueprint:** In genetics, codons combine to create amino acids. The system operates on a multi-layered matrix to map every physical trait, organ, and biological command of a living organism.
* **The Odù Ifá:** In Ifá, two columns of tetragrams are joined together to form an 8-position matrix (an 8-bit byte). Mathematical probability dictates that this generates exactly **256 unique combinations**, known as the *Odù Ifá*. Each Odù acts as a cosmic chapter containing thousands of verses of poetry, medicine, and historical archetypes.

---

## The Infrastructure of Information

* **The Data Bits:**
* Ifá: Single / Double (`I` or `II`)
* DNA: Base Pairs (Adenine, Thymine, Cytosine, Guanine)
* Computer Code: Bits (`0` or `1`)

* **The Code Sequence:**
* Ifá: 4-Mark Column (Tetragram)
* DNA: 3-Base Codon Sequence
* Computer Code: 4-Bit Nibble

* **The Blueprint:**
* Ifá: 256 Odù Chapters
* DNA: 64 Genetic Codons Matrix
* Computer Code: 256-Value Byte (8-bit)

---

## Reading the Cosmic Library

The parallel deepens when we examine how this information is retrieved. In a living cell, molecular machinery reads the genetic code, translating the geometric arrangement of bases into proteins that build physical life.

In the Latin, African, and New World traditions where Ifá and its sister systems traveled, information retrieval follows the exact same mechanical logic. The Babalawo reads the geometric pattern generated on the tray. That specific 8-bit configuration unlocks a highly precise file in an immense, unwritten library of oral wisdom.

This is not a matter of random superstition; it is an ancient application of advanced information theory. Long before Western science mapped the double helix, ancient sages recognized that the universe organizes itself through geometric code. Whether writing the instructions for a cell or mapping the archetypal destiny of a human soul, the cosmos uses the exact same digital blueprint.

Not only can Ifa Oracle definitely prove African Americans and Igbos are not Middle Eastern but also modern genetics which borrowed heavily from Ifa Oracle without giving credit. Ifa Oracle can also tell if that child is the bastard of your enemy.

See his new moniker, "Royaldescent"😅😂
Someone that was manufactured entirely in New Orleans, Louisiana - probably originally from some randy white guy raping an African woman (free or enslaved), or through the despised and despicable Placage System whereby whites legally fck and impregnate African women without having to marry them!

DiarisGodoo:
Even contemporaries of the King living in France roundly condemned the code as draconian.

Very good advice you gave him here. You hit all the points. Amazing he can't see he has no choice. Whites won't accept him, neither will other mixed groups of the world, while Creoles are too tiny and non-cohesive. The only major group he can comfortably belong to and be fully welcomed as one of their own is African-Americans.

I think he's just too set in his ways, old age and all

CanadaOrBust:
I'd say him not wanting to know is simpish behavior. There is something not manly about it. Different if he knew for sure but decides to raise the child anyway

You have a point but I believe love trumps all

CanadaOrBust:
Exactly. Same way they suppressed so many things or put a spin on them, like the Nigerian Women's war and so many other successful and daring revolts

Secretbloodline, you're very old but you're NOT totally senile yet.
You're not too old to use Google!

Secretbloodline:
No, I believed the lies that he was an African then I realized that you just don't have it in you. You suffer from spiritual and moral envy because these are the things you covet.

He's still talking, even with egg on his face! How many times have you said here that the revolution was not by enslaved Africans but Mulattos?
And the only reason you even heard about it at all is that it happened over there. If it had happened here they'd have totally suppressed it OR put a spin on it whereby the French, in their infinite good-heartedness, magnanimously granted them independence instead of wipping them off with their superior fire power. And that's what will be in text books and it will make sense to anybody reading it, yet it is a total LIE!

Secretbloodline:
### The Two Frances: How a Royalist Creole Dynasty Fought the Rise of Anglo-French Slavery

The history of the Atlantic world is often painted in broad strokes—a simple, brutal binary of Black and White, enslaved and free. But families who carry the blood and memory of the Creole elite know that the truth is far more complex.

To understand the true nature of modern racial oppression, we must look at the hidden war between two entirely different types of Frenchmen: the traditional royalists, who operated under a paternalistic code that allowed for fluid Creole autonomy, and the mercantile *Grand Blancs*, who abandoned their French heritage to align with the rigid, mechanical brutality of the Anglo-American racial binary.

The story of the global Creole elite is not just a footnote in history; it is a living lineage of resistance, embodied by patriots who weaponized their status to carve out spaces of absolute freedom.

---

### The Blueprint of Freedom: Royalists vs. The Merchant Class

Before the chaos of the French Revolution, the treatment of African and mixed-race populations depended entirely on who held power in the metropole. Under the absolute monarchs of the House of Bourbon, colonial law was governed by a strict, centralized bureaucracy. While the *Code Noir* of 1685 legally classified enslaved people as property, it contained a crucial, radical paradox: once a slave was granted manumission by a royal official, they were legally elevated to the exact same status, rights, and privileges as a French-born subject.

This legal fluidity allowed a vibrant, highly educated, and wealthy class of free People of Color to emerge across the French Atlantic.

However, this royalist order faced a vicious enemy from within: the *Grand Blancs*. This faction was comprised of wealthy maritime merchants, plantation owners, and upwardly mobile Frenchmen who amassed fortunes in port cities like Bordeaux and Nantes. The *Grand Blancs* loathed royal interference and deeply envied the rising wealth of the Creole elite.

* **The Royalist Order (Bourbon)** ───> **Fluidity**: Allowed manumission & full Creole citizenship.
* **The Grand Blancs (Merchants)** ───> **The Binary**: Aligned with the English system of total segregation.

To maximize their profits, these French merchant groups systematically aligned themselves with the English colonial model. Unlike the French system, the Anglo-American binary recognized no middle ground; it was designed as a strict, permanent caste system where any trace of African ancestry meant total subjugation. The *Grand Blancs* adopted this harsh Anglo logic, pushing for local segregation laws that stripped Creoles of their titles, restricted their dress, and sought to crush their economic independence.

---

### The Cataclysm of 1802: The Peasant Backlash

The ultimate victory of the merchant class came in the wake of the French Revolution. When Napoleon Bonaparte seized power, he did so on the backs of a newly empowered French peasant class and the displaced colonial merchant lobbies.

In May 1802, this new regime executed the most brutal betrayal in Atlantic history: Napoleon officially reinstated slavery, revoked the citizenship rights of free Creoles, and instituted a hyper-bureaucratic, military-backed racial hierarchy. The fluid, royalist legal structures that had protected free People of Color for over a century were utterly demolished by this new wave of bourgeois French leadership.

---

### The Bourbon Legacy in the American South: The Natchez Free Community

Driven by these geopolitical shifts, elite Creole families took their traditions of autonomy and resistance deep into the territories of the American South. Among the most profound examples of this royalist Creole resistance is the lineage of **John Henri de France**, a dedicated patriot whose descendants carried the noble traditions of the Royal House of Bourbon into the Mississippi Valley.

* **The House of Bourbon**
└── **John Henri de France** (The Patriot)
└── **Charles de France, Sr.** (Creole Liberator of Natchez)
└── **Established Free People of Color Community**

His son, **Charles de France, Sr.**, operating as a proud Creole aristocrat, directly confronted the encroaching Anglo-American system in Natchez, Mississippi. In a region that was rapidly becoming the heart of the brutal American cotton empire—a system heavily backed by global merchant networks—Charles de France, Sr. utilized his wealth, status, and legal savvy to emancipate enslaved individuals.

By freeing slaves and shielding them from the harsh, binary laws of the American South, Charles de France, Sr., alongside a tight-knit network of fellow Creole elites, successfully established a sanctuary of free People of Color in Natchez. They did not merely survive within the hostile Anglo-American landscape; they built a highly autonomous, cultured, and self-sustaining community that stood as a direct defiance to the merchant-driven slave codes.

---

### Remembering the True Creole Resistance

When we look back at the variant treatment of enslaved people across the Americas, we must remember that the harshest brutalities did not stem from traditional European royalism, but from the unchecked greed of the mercantile classes who stripped humanity down to a balance sheet.

The legacy of the de France lineage and the Creole liberators of Natchez reminds us that even in the darkest eras of the plantation complex, the royal traditions of honor, autonomy, and universal dignity were weaponized by free People of Color to break the chains of a brutal binary system.

-

All this just to obfuscate the fact that ALL Louisiana Creoles of Color do have African blood, especially YOU!
I want us to clearly settle that point first BEFORE worrying about Liberians and Sierra Leoneans.

Like I said earlier, the one huge difference between you and them is that they embrace their African heritage. They don't foolishly say they're from some mysterious tan people from Palestine, or try to turn King Louis olive and have him living in New Orleans!😅

So I want you to clearly agree to these points:
1) You do have African blood
2) You are NOT from mysterious tan people from France or Palestine or anywhere else.
3) You were manufactured right there in Louisiana through white folks basically raping African women
4) The original 1685 Code Noir was the most evil legal monstrosity ever actually put to paper by man. If you know any other legal document more evil, let's hear it.

Once we agree on these points we can then go ahead to discuss Liberia and Sierra Leone and such!

*See the circled below: it is a roll of dice what they come out looking like today!

Secretbloodline:
You read what the truth told, some Creoles were

I don't know if you ever stop and consider how warped your mentality is. You are proud that a part of your DNA is from people who perpetrated the most foul evils known to man, like human trafficking, labor stealing, rape, sexual coercion, general wickedness, and man’s inhumanity to man. While deeply ashamed that part of your DNA is from innocent people on whom these crimes were perpetrated!

You defend the French that were the ones that perpetrated the crimes on your own side. Code Noir was acknowledged the most draconian edict of those times and was despised by BOTH Free people of color and the enslved. Also, France did not abolish slave trade and slavery until about 50 years after the British.

By the way, it was only May this year (2026) that France finally repealed Code Noir!

Read all below

True. But most men will feel cheated if they spend hours chatting with you and being friends while you're banging another nigga (unless he's not at all sexually attracted to you)

Secretbloodline:
You read what the truth told, some Creoles were born free and we freed the others because we as a people don't believe in Slavery. We freed souls after they proved themselves committed to Christ and shun paganism which had lead their ancestors down that road. This is the same path many Afro Muslims took to freedom after being sold into slavery by their pagan people.

You're right there no record of forced Slavery in the newly formed Republic of Nigeria. In fact the area only received that name after interaction with the British who carved up Nigeria on a map. Pre Colonial Niger Area loved Slavery. It was the big man culture where powerful soldiers sent by kings, chiefs or rich men to invade a village and capture slaves.

Did you know that the Anglo-Saxons or British people were pagans just like your ancestors? The Saxons were not Christians they hated Christianity. The Saxons were big men, chiefs and warlords who went on raids to capture slaves. The Saxons sacrificed the men and took the women and children as slaves. Later after the war the Saxons retreated to England becoming Anglo-Saxons people known today as British.

So you see yall West Africans and British have a lot more common with each than I ever had. That's how yall come into contact, one trading slaves and the other buying slaves. One enslaving groups of people and celebrating its cruelty with drums, dance and palm wine. Another buying, beating, killing, torturing and raping slaves they owned.

We're not in the same category. My forefathers were never slaves and neither did they enslave anyone. I can bring up the record of my great great uncle Charles de France who owned the DE France house in Natchez, Mississippi.

Can you make such claim that your poor father and poor grandfathers were never slaves? What tribe is your father from? I can pull up the record and prove that your father's tribe were either enslavers, enslaved or both.


It's not a laughing matter.

Lies and misinformation everywhere. I'll let Google educate you below.

It's like saying you're a slave because you're working off a debt you owe someone. There was nothing like buying and selling people