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oote:
Good morning All. Please I'm in need of an information as per WINDOW BLINDS. How much will it cost to window blinds 13 Windows.
Kindly assist with full response. Thanks All.

All windows are not equal in size. Nobody can give you 'full response' without 'full details' of your windows.

rotecch77:
This is steel roofing and long span is the best for it… it’s real complete 0.70mm thickness both the quality and thickness used here is far far costly than gerald.
The quality of the Aluminum product is not those regular one you see out there in most building.

Thanks chief for your time here sir
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In order news 2nd/3rd building is going on here …Utilities building and mega Eatery

Is it possible to do hidden roof with steel?

Joy2world:
we've been recommended that for better quality.

Oh I see. Hope the recommendation came from pros though.

Shady92:
Good evening bosses in the house. Please i need criticism on this floor plan of 4bedroom floor. Thanks

I foresee a dark living room and dining because of their recessed widows...no idea how you'd fix it though.

Also I'd prefer the bathroom doors not to be so central...they should open on to a wall, so I'd personally move them closer to the room doors. Moving the doors will also create wall space for TV's or other interior wall decor items in the rooms.

And a window (sliding) for the kitchen store wouldn't be a bad idea either...for natural lighting and ventilation.

twinskenny:
Guys good morning, a client want to make a decision on some bathroom design, the space is small… now they want to choose between bath cubicle or bath tubs… which do you think is more decent?

Personally not a fan of tubs since the day I had an accident in one, but I think your client should make his choice based on budget, type of wash hand basin and type of toilet door installed. I think if the bathroom has enough space for a tub, then it can also contain a cubicle, but probably locally made to fit the space. So space shouldn't be a factor here.

If he wants to install a counter-top wash hand basin like the one in the lower picture or has a wooden toilet door, then a cubicle would be best to prevent water from slashing on the wooden cabinet and door. Other than this, it pretty much depends on his personal preference and his budget.

Joy2world:
Hello experts, for a 200 sqm space for a p.o.p ceiling, what will be the estimate for the bags of p.o.p cement to mould the board and the kg of filas, for a 2" thickness of board .

2" thickness for POP ceiling boards? Isn't that too much?

diordaves:
Nigerite boards have a thickness of 3mm. If you are going to screed over, then this will add 2mm to the thickness with a total of 5mm thickness. This is about the average thickness of POP installations. So you will get about the same thermal and sound insulation as your average POP installation.

Oh, that's wonderful. Thanks.

diordaves:
Yes. Just screed over the design to get a smooth finish if this is your thing. You can also screed over joints to have a continuous finish.

Ok, great...but what about its thermal and sound insulating properties? Just as good as POP?

diordaves:
Nigerite fibre cement ceilings

Can fibre cement boards be installed so that they appear like a wall-to-wall continuous plain flat ceiling with no designs, partitions or cornices?

olukaygold:
We actually raised that water tank up with 8ft Tank Stand for more Water pressure at the First Floor.

I understand...guess you can't have your cake and eat it too. Function over aesthetics any day.

topsy23:
When the battery is low they will give alarm.. There is also heat detector for kitchen

Nice 👍

erico2k2:
It should do, co they will beep or flash a red light and also you are meant to test them regularly say once a week by pressing the reset point!!

Ok, thanks for the insight.

erico2k2:
What ever kind of batteries you put is entirely up to you, you can buy rechargeable AA batteries and install in them, they take AA or AAA batteries just like your TV remote controls.

Ok, that's great for the Nigerian situation as it is at the moment. I only hope they also come with indicators to show when batteries are drained.

erico2k2:
The vast majority of them are battery powered. Installed in places where you naturally wont have naked flames, ie you living room and bedrooms.

Are the batteries rechargeable?

topsy23:
Stand alone battery operated

Rechargeable?

topsy23:
Many don't have fire alarm in their house. We have the wireless one now

How is it powered? Batteries, solar or both?

olukaygold:
Happy New Month Brethren. Handling over this House Keys to my Client latest next week Wednesday... .

Lovely building bro...but if I were the owner, I would have requested you do something to make that water tank on the roof not so visible.

diordaves:
I think you are getting it all wrong. The issue is not if polystyrene will burst into flames. The issue is, polystyrene is a product of petroleum crude. It is not a wise decision to clad homes in petroleum products. This is not the same thing as doors. Doors retard to a limited extent the spread of fire. Polystyrene propagate the spread of fire.

When there is fire, it is not the FIRE flames that kills. It is the smoke, poisonous gas and the lack of oxygen that kills. In the event of fire, polystyrene cladded ceiling will melt and drip to the floor, making escape and rescue difficult. Polystyrene will emit black poisonous smoke, sucking up the oxygen which can lead to death.

No, it is not advisable to clad your home with petroleum products.

In that case, I wonder why no one seems to have similar concerns with PVC ceilings, or is PVC not a petroleum product again? Will PVC ceiling not melt and drip on the floor as well?

And irrespective of whether your ceiling is polystyrene, POP or concrete, if your house is on fire and you do not escape in time, the smoke and, most importantly, depleted oxygen conditions will probably kill you before the fire gets to you. Smoke doesn't suck oxygen. Oxygen is required for combustion and is depleted by the process of burning, no matter the source of fire.

Nor be only smoke from burning polystyrene fit kill person o.

sonnie10:
The bottom line is that some materials are more combustible than others. It’s just like saying HIV cannot be transmitted by kissing, would you kiss a HIV carrier?

Agree 💯...but this fear of construction polystyrene bursting into flames is totally unfounded. It would simply melt if it comes in contact with fire, unlike a piece of cloth that would catch fire and spread it to other parts of the house, yet we don't hear anyone saying we shouldn't have curtains or bedsheets in our homes.

SpectaSpace:
What if he's right?

This is not a matter of if, it is a matter of what happens when there's fire outbreak. Regardless of the justifications, polystyrene/Styrofoam are flammable materials!

It is important for homeowners to calibrate safety and security measures in their buildings according to threat and risk level.

There are so many flammable materials in our homes. Not having a polystyrene ceiling, I'm afraid, is not a fire safety measure. And just by the way, the polystyrene boards used in construction are usually fire retardant versions of polystyrene.

Like I said, the key is to incorporate fire safety measures in our homes, like installing fire alarm systems, smoke detectors, fire extinguishers, fire blankets, fire escape, etc.

Having a concrete ceiling, even in the kitchen does not prevent fires. Your cooker can cause fire. Your electrical appliances can cause fire. Your kitchen cabinet can catch fire. Your wooden kitchen doors are also flammable. In fact, almost everything inside our homes are flammable, so does that mean we should live in empty houses?

OnMyHonor:
Polystyrene Material should not be anywhere near a Kitchen, just like Gas Cylinders, in my own opinion!
Yes, it is used to keep things Warm/Cold, that is because it is not a good TRANSMITTER of heat and forms a Heat barrier on each side.
But Heat and Naked Fire are two different things.


It has a very low flame-point, it is made from highly flammable HydroCarbon Chains of atoms (we actually make Gum out of it, by mixing it with a little Petrol and the Petrol just melts it like butter).
If it ever comes into contact with a little fire or hydrocarbon solvent, it flames immediately.

Kitchens are that area of our Houses, where a fire is most likely to start (ordinary frying Doodo without paying enough attention or just warming the Oil before putting pepper or putting pepper when the oil is too hot, can result in a fire!).
So, l think it is most important, that we do everything humanly possible, not to put anything that can aid the fire, around the Kitchen Area.

As for me, l specifically use concrete deck as the Ceiling of all my Kitchens, even upstairs!
If a fire starts from a kitchen, the Concrete Deck will prevent the spread of the fire to the Roof (at Uppermost Floor) and give you a fighting-chance, some minutes, to activate your Extinguishers.
But if the Kitchen Ceiling is made of anything Polystrene or Plastic, you might not have those vital minutes and it may actually fuel the fire.

Why would l take such risk, when l can avoid it?
Well, l was just thinking aloud.

All I see here are unfounded fears bro. Next thing we'll hear is that we shouldn't have PVC ceilings, wooden furnitures, clothes, curtains, gas cookers or even electricity in our homes. Forget whatever you've read on Google, polystyrene isn't as flammable as you guys portray it to be. Ceiling that is up there, 3 meters or so away from any naked fire from your cooker, will now suddenly catch fire or melt away and the shirt you wear or your hair never first catch fire Haba

There are so many more things that can cause or spread fire in your home. The key thing is just to adhere to building codes and fire safety regulations. Dazzol

Balistic4:
well, just my personal view, it is a soft material and kitchen can be hot for several reasons. So to further ensure that there won't be any fire incident, I want to use normal pop for the kitchen and also ensure that all the wiring in my house will be with thick and quality cables to avoid electrical heating and sparks. This is just my thought, haven't done that yet. Advantages of using polystyrene are just too much to ignore, especial the fast deliver, light weight, and cost.

Yes kitchen can get quite hot, but I don't think it can get hot enough to melt or burn a polystyrene ceiling though.

One of the many uses of polystyrene is in making food flasks or water bottles in other to keep foods or drinks hot or cold. If polystyrene could melt so easily from kitchen heat, then I don't think it would stand a chance when exposed to a hot food or drink.

sonnie10:
Maybe the material is flammable

Highly flammable The same material used in packaging electronics Hmmm.

From childhood experience, I know it melts when burnt, but I don't think it 'easily ignites' just like petrol does...well at least that's my understanding of something being described as "highly flammable".

Balistic4:
I think Polystyrene pop will be better in this case since it is way lighter. I am really considering using it for my house, except in the kitchen

Please what's your reason for excluding the kitchen, if you don't mind?

bolu1986:
Dear clients


For safety sake don’t do heavy pop design under deck! Make it moderate!


Make sure you use the right materials as well to avoid story like the one in this video

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6UalToMrtF/?igsh=MXZxbXB3aTFnYzgwMQ==

Maybe you guys need to upgrade your knowledge and methods. I don't think this should be a problem if done properly. It may cost more, but surely there must be a better way to keep the POP suspended under a decking.

sonnie10:
The purpose of using mm in measurement is for precision. When you begin to have only zeros at the end of every measurement, it does not show precision and lacks attention to minute details.
I would trust a workman that gives a measurement in mm for say 458 x 1189 than another that gave 460 x 1200 for the same window space.
We know plastering will take care of that small difference but again, perfection is always good.
This inattention to little detail is why a window flew off an aircraft midair recently.

I get your point about the importance of paying attention to detals, but then again those 'minute details' as in this case of window sizes are more often than not as a result of human error from the bricklayer. The architectural design will most likely have the window dimensions ending in zeros, but of course it's humanly impossible for the bricklayer to achieve those exact dimensions for all window spaces and frankly achieving that accuracy isn't really necessary. That is why you may have those small differences in 2 or more window spaces that are supposed to be same size.

However, unlike the window spaces that may have different dimensions even for windows meant to be of same size, the windows themselves can be produced to have same size as depicted on paper. For instance 4 windows, all measuring 460 × 1200 can be produced and installed in different window spaces measuring 458 × 1196, 464 × 1205, 470 × 1190 and 450 × 1210 respectively.

This rounding up of measurements by the window guy offers uniformity and better aesthetics in my opinion.

JinaduJosefu:
I see where the issue is coming from. You were converting inches to mm....whereas, I clearly stated that my measurements were in CM. To be on the same page, I have attached measurements in mm. I hope this can help.

@Rany4all

Yeah, I think this should resolve the misunderstanding. He can just do a direct quotation for these without the need for any convertion.

RockOfAgesAlumi:
The conversion was use through TAPE and we are using feet and we are using meter
Like 3ftx5ft it's means 900 x 1500. In
Aluminium measurement you will first measure BREATH before HEIGHT
Thanks

It's not meter bros. That is where you're confusing him. It's millimeter (mm).
3ft = 900mm
5ft = 1500mm

For convertion of his measurements in cm to your preferred mm, just add a zero to the figure... for instance 46cm = 460mm, 226cm = 2260mm and so on.

As for the breadth and length/height thing, just take the figures on the right column as your breadth and those on the left column as your length/height. Shikena!

JinaduJosefu:
Thanks for your response but I still find it difficult to understand the conversions.
To make it clearer for me, can you demonstrate how you converted the first measurement of 46cm X 226CM to 1170 X 5750?
I believe using this as an example will make things look clearer.

Maybe you should just convert your measurements to his preferred unit (mm) yourself and post it as width × height. Not everyone knows how to do these unit convertions.

RockOfAgesAlumi:
Sir
That is the way of Aluminium measurement for example 1.2 x 1.2 is 1200x1200 in our own measurement
So BREATH will be measured first before LENGTH for the measurement
The measurement you forwarded to me it was length you first measure before breath and that was a mistake
But now it's has been arranged to our own ways of measurement
Thanks

You should be using the term 'height', rather than 'length'. Length might be confusing since windows come in different shapes and sizes, some taller than they are wide and others wider than they are tall. Just my thoughts though.

JinaduJosefu:
Thanks for your response....but I am a little bit confused...which SI unit are your measurements? Feet, Inches, cm, mm?

His measurements, I believe, should be in 'mm'. Any other unit will not make much sense.

speak2bella:
Hello people, please I need your honest advice on how to remedy this sockaway project. The person is trying to build a precast sockaway because the soil is sandy. However, while trying to dig the ground so the precast sinks down, it cracked and why trying to figure that out, the side starts to compress.

I will be in the comment section to read your honest advice. Many thanks great minds.

I'm no engineer, but I don't think this septic tank was properly reinforced. With that height and width, I think the reinforcement should have included some columns and beams, but I'm not seeing any. At least the rebar for the columns should still be visible, but there's none there. Huge waste of funds here. Your Engineer's qualifications are definitely questionable, to say the least.