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amanze15:
really common, you are smarter than this

its a well planned religious org bro...

shadeyinka:
Faith is NOT blind as you suppose. Faith just simply means Trusting in the Integrity of God and His Words. It is more tangible than you think.

who then is that god?
Some causasian(jewish) racist in the sky?
Who cares if my daughter steals #100 from me and is ready to burn her eternally for it...
Some sexually perverted islam in the sky?
Who's ready to give me 72 virgins if i blow my self up for him?
Define God man!

An example: If Dangote promises to give you N10 million naira before the end of the month, won't you start making plans for how you will spend the money? Why, because you trust in his asset and ability to give you even much more.

i wont!
I do not do such...never generalize..

Guesses well calculated which may actually go tangent to the truth. A person can be sincerely wrong isnt it?

yes...a caluclated guess may be wrong insincerely and sincerely..i only wanted to show its not shvt!

Thebtruth is some of us have experiences which cannot be waived away. The fact that you may not have such kinds of experience does not change the reality. Like, how do you convince a person who has a profound near death experience that he was just hallucinating? Your inexperience in NDE could bias you as an atheist to insist on believing contrary.

ive already dealt with this nde issue before...
Until u can prove otherwise...its as good as dead!
You are good physicist...
Answer this...scientifically..
How can a brain which deals on material frequency be able to recollect experiences of a distinct immaterial being which happened at an immaterial frequency?

shadeyinka...observe this

theskepticalzone.com/wp/split-brain-patients-and-the-dire-implications-for-substance-dualism/

The fact that you may not have such kinds of experience does not change the reality.

sincerely..
I believe you know c.80% or more of what we usually term the supernatural are usually undiscovered laws of physics
In truth and in reality...

Scatterscatter:
After death comes judgement means there is no repentance in the grave. The moment you die, your fate is sealed.

u stilll dont get it..your fate is sealed..either heaven or hell..
So how can they pray through someone in hell and the miracle happens? Not once but twice?
Thats the basis..thats the significance of the miracle.

And mind you, "the dead in Christ will rise of the last day when Jesus appears"

hian
In mark 9:4...moses was dead..how come he talked to jesus if he wasnt conscious
What about psalm73:24??
Luke 16:22--abraham have mercy on me...
In luke 23:43- was jesus mad when he said:today you shall be with me in paradise?
Acts 7:59...

My Jesus isn't a dead jew as he died and resurrected on the third day before ascending to heaven in a new glorified body,now seated at the right hand of the Father.

he is a dead jew

The kinda intercession I'm referring to is in heaven. Your relatives and friends can intercede nd you do likewise regarded both parties are alive and your prayer must be channelled to the Father through Jesus only.

how do u define alive?
Are they dead??
I thought the soul never dies?
Is the flesh now more important than the spirit?
Be deceiveing yourself

You can't pray for or to the dead. The only name that has been given authority to bind and loose is the name of Jesus Christ no other name can. Not the name of Paul, Peter, Mary or even Abraham.

what are u saying oga?
Stop contradicting yourself and ur precious bible
matthew 16:13

Jesus is the only way to the Father! And the only way to Jesus is the confession of your mouth,!.

sure..they didnt say otherwise..
Stop lying!

You don't need any mother theresa to pray for you as she is no longer among the living.

so the angels are dead...jesus is dead...okay...no soul..no hell..no heaven...u die u die...m happy you are an atheist..
Better stop praying for your family..it is a sin...
Wait wait wait..
When your grandparent dies...where do u bid him/her to?
Rest in the bossom of the lord...why
U proclaim at burials and tributes that ur grandparent is in jesus's arms...why
Stop those burials boy!

shadeyinka:
Those are big words for "quantum" is not a particle , a particle is discribed by quantum theories. Energies or Particles, which came first and attempting to correlate this with known physics, Energies must have at least a source.

virtual particles arise through quantum fluctuations....unaided...
And matter/energy is defined in the first law of thermodynamics...so?
The virtual particles arising unaided??

Image123:
Next time, don't say "SAME". Find out the menaing of words before using them.

okay..

You are not making any sense, they do not compare. No god surpasses God in power, wisdom, coverage, worship, precision and relevance. You cannot take ANY other god to the bank. Jehovah God is the ONLY God that calls the multitudes in their hundreds and they troop in. 2nd, 3rd or whatever position is not 1st. i'm talking real things you know of, when i bring out data and proof now, you will show that i wasted my time by saying that the numbers do not mean it is the truth. What evidence do you want exactly, faith or unseen?

argument ad population...
Is that the basis for truth?
If so...why then according to your religion..the devil tempts and wins more souls than god...does it mean the devil is true?
Or like in those days...
Lightning was believed to be as a result of god(s) anger...does it make it true?
Im lost here...choose your basis...is it by population?

Oh oh, just like i predict above. It shows it UNIQUE. What do you want to use to measure seeing spiritual things are a challenge for you? i try to help you with physical, you accept but do not feel it makes it true. What makes it true? What kind of evidence do you need exactly?

indisputable facts...
The god presented should fit the attributes given to him...
The word of that god...would be uncontradictory,,infallible and scientific...
A god who really cares about sending your daughter to hell if she steals #50 from you to buy gala would not be a hidden god..
Gullible Personal experiences are an off-key
the dualistic soul#consiousness would have been proven to be independent of the brain..
Etc i can go on and on

But you just said that i am the one that FEELS so, that the adherents do not FEEL so. Why are you so confused? i talked about regular consistent massive conversions. This happens everywhere and every week. It is not a feeling, it is reality. That naira sells for over 400naira/$ is a reality regardless of feelings. Same with conversions that are visible in crusades and evangelism campaigns.

i hope u know in strongholds of other religions#prominent areas..crowds convert to them more in contrast to less prominent areas...
Wait wait wait...
From your argument ad population..the catholic church is the true christian church..they have the highest populace...so?
Do u agree?

[s]Same as above, what sort of other evidence do you want? You rejected biblical evidence[/s]

the bible is not even half an evidence

you rejected physical evidence, what do you want?

the physical evidence is not a standard type of physical evidence..
Many people believe saints have halo's..does it make it true? Or better..many people believe animals are not conscious...does it make it true?
Im lost here...

Your mistake and your views/analogy are a proof that there is no afterlife. You must be a genius, don't you think?

k...u cant disprove snow white did not exist..therefore she existed

We are talking about Mo's eternity, he clearly is not sure of it. i am sure of mine. Jesus clearly said He was going to Heaven to be with His Father, He said it too many times even a toddler is not confused. Unfortunately, you have chosen to be confused. Paradise is a place the spirits of just men go after death. Their bodies are on earth, Jesus is coming back for them. This are clear scripture teachings, it's a miracle that you choose to be confused about it.

in the book of job...it was stated that god destroys both the good and the wicked...so
In other places it says he made people for hell(destiny) so
Wait wait...
spirits
Gnashing of teeth??
Rich man's tongue?
Sitting on thrones??
Talking in heaven??
Oga??

Next time, think carefully before you talk, instead of later coming to ask for forgiveness. You need God's forgiveness more.

its still similar..allah's forgiveness,, vinshu's forgiveness damn!...i need a lot of forgiveness

It is not my belief, your links said so, what is my own?

i gave u links that said yours's a myth...do u now believe?

The same archaeological evidences that make many persons faith grounded. The fire that cooks my food will probably burn yours, no wahala.

true...really true..

Jesus is the meaning. Who has the so called resurrections helped? You seem to be doing the cop out.

a resurrection is simply being brought back to life after death..
I dont understand these contrary meanings you're assigning to the word resurrection

Speak english. You were predestined to glorify God but you are not.

yeah right like judas and jesus's killers...
Oh yeah...he predestined pharaoh just to flex his muscles..

So theirs should be literal BECAUSE YOU say so but YOU don't believe so? Make sense please.

lol..m talking of the followers of the religion..
Or is christianity the only religion?

Life is not LIMITED to mathematics. Abijah's father had 88children, not 4 or 2. At that rate, it is very possible.

lol..not convincing.

They hardly said that their gods were the correct version, they simply claimed to be gods.

oga..stop contradicting yourself...
Read your statement..apply it to the islamic,,hinduist,,zoroasterianism,,parents of a child indoctrinating their child..and see the shining error you made.

Image123:
i said that "None of the gods you speak of claimed to create the world and all humans.

what do you mean?
What did i give u?

" The expectation is that you show proof otherwise, not present articles that state clearly that what is being said is a myth. Show us proof that any of your closet gods created the world and all humans.

how?
So it was called a myth and u accepted...but when i gave u a link that called jesus a myth u rejected it outright..

Wikipedia calls the genesis creation story a myth...do u agree?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Genesis_creation_myth

It is your claim, not mine. Why is the earth a god? Is it still a god? What are the tangible proofs that it is a god

because it had to become earth for u to survive..
It made a dire sacrifice..

The Bible was not dictated. All the stories you brought can be made up and have no tangible proof or stand to show. The Word of God remains unshaken and undisputed.

this is a feeble claim...
No proof...creation is no more proof again?

By going to the corner, how else? The devil is satan, the fellow that tells you to type rubbish and not give your life to Jesus Christ.

jesus is a dead jew..who had no intentions of starting what paul started...he was a keeper of jewish laws..and didnt want people to depart from mosaic laws...
So?

How, WHERE?

i gave u just that upwards...

Sure but you don't believe. Okay. i'll send in a prayer for you.

im lost here...
Why are u not afraid of zoroaster's hell?
He first initiated the concept of hell(lake of fire stuff)...why cant his be the original?

Whatever. Many people know Jesus without the ABC.

okay...he was a good jew...i get it..

donnie:
My dear, dont even start cos i know you are not ready to engage me in such discussions based on scripture. Do your homework first, and that should include knowing your oponent. Then come for an argument if you are still willing. PS. ALL ARGUMENTS SCHOULD BE BASED 100% ON SCRIPTURE. Thank you

how do u indentify scripture?
And who gave u those scriptures?

Jokerman:
Lolsss... I am the follower of the Lord Jesus Christ and I follow after his words ( the Bible )....

what are the words of jesus?
How many gospels were they before those b.astard devilish catholics chose four for you guyz?

Where did Jesus give the authority to the Catholic Church...? Abi na Catholic be Peter (Literally speaking)??

who is the first bishop of the catholic church?

Jesus referred to every believer of His, ok... not specifically d Catholic church...moreover was the Catholic church the first at Antioch, Greece? ?

lol...what u saying?
Na antioch christianity first start?
Jewish christians?
Go research man!

donnie:
Besides no amount of good works can qualify you for the righteousness of God.

when jesus said he will judge us according to his works was he mad?
Or when he told the rich man to sell his possessions,,help the poor and then he can have a seat in heaven??
Read the bible catholics gave u

Isaiah 64:6 But we are all like an unclean thing, And all our righteousnesses are like filthy rags; We all fade as a leaf, And our iniquities, like the wind, Have taken us away.

What qualifies you before God is HIS righteousness, not yours. Do not be deceived.

Philippians 3:9 9 And be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the faith of Christ, the righteousness which is of God by faith

this sola fide doctrine sef...lol
have u read 1james?

Scatterscatter:
I'm sorry as I Jst realised your case is even worse off!!!
Kindly show me a part in the Bible that says we should pray through a dead man or dead people to Jesus;are you indirectly worshiping the dead.? Cos the so called Saints that you pray through are all dead only to resurrect on the last day.
Why should someone even intercede on your behalf; don't you know Jesus Christ is our only advocate and intercessor.
My dear, you now have a direct link to the Father through his son Jesus Christ our Lord and saviour don't let any person tell you otherwise!

BTW kindly tell me how it is in man's capacity to verify someone as a saint? Are you God

weyrey?
What happened to after death comes judgement?
Dead saints?..in other words jesus is also a dead jew...
I hope u know jesus told his apostles that they would be judges with him in heaven...mere mortals
Why should someone intercedede?
Why should u pray for yyour family ni?
Them no get mouth? Why?

shadeyinka:
The multiverse hypothesis is a hypothesis. It has no practical basis yet. If the multiverse theory is true, then our universe is just a subset of a higher universe.

Theists will call it the rhelm of the spirit

i hope u know...accepted facts all arise from hypothesis?
A scientific hypothesis is far better than ''faith''
hypothesis are well calculated guesses..

shadeyinka:
Slight point of correction, time is a marker to events that take place in space. If time is a maker of events, was there ever a time when everything in the universe was quiet and static? The lawsbwhich operate before the bang cannot be physical

The issue actually to brainstorm about is the source of energy either that initiated the bang or the inherent energy of the singularity (assuming an insable entity).All known Energy forms has a generator. Whichever way we look at it, the first law of thermodynamics is violated

quantum fluctuations ?@bolded

amanze15:
for each his own, i just think it wouldnt have stood the test of time if its was "hilarious"

its a well planned religious org. Brother

amanze15:
haba bros internet is cheaper now and you should read your bible more, common, you don't need to hate what you don't believe

ur point?

endtimeshit:
How can I? God is above all. By the way, God is a physicist

which god if i may ask?

TheSixthSense:
I would quote the scriptures you mentionedMark 4:11-12)

[s]When the disciples asked for the reason Jesus spoke in parables, He responded in the verses. Here you see something about the two wills of God: The Sovereign Will (Always comes to pass eg. the coming and return of the messiah, Jesus Christ) and Will of Command (It depends on obedience by free will for it to be fulfilled eg. His will for Adam and Eve not to eat from the tree, His will for you to repent and be saved, His will that christians should flee from sexual immorality for sanctification (1 Thes 4:3))

God wills (sovereign) that a condition prevail that He regards as blameworthy. His will (command) is that people turn and be forgiven (Mark 1:15), but He acts to restrict the fulfilment of that will. Paul describes this divine hardening as part of a grand plan that will bring salvation to both Jew and Gentile. In Rom 11:25–27 he says to the gentiles:"For I do not desire, brethren, that you should be ignorant of this mystery, lest you should be wise in your own opinion, that blindness in part has happened to Israel until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. 26 And so all Israel will be saved, as it is written: "The Deliverer will come out of Zion, And He will turn away ungodliness from Jacob; For this is My covenant with them, When I take away their sins.

You see from this now that the divine hardening has an appointed end - 'until the fulness of Gentiles has come in' - but still part of God's plan and not outside His purpose. Paul also said in"My heart’s desire and prayer to God Israel may be saved." And in verse 21, it tells that God is extending His arms to the lost "All day long I have stretched out My hands to a disobedient and contrary people[/s]

all these mumbo jumbo does not concern me!!
Truly irrelevant!

So yes, God ordains hardening for His purpose but also a timing to disobedience.

your point?

But it is not written anywhere that God predestined - unlike the elect (Rom 8:29-30) - anyone for destruction, rather it is His will (command) that everyone comes to repentance and be saved:

are u a christian or a luciferan?
Christians are not supposed to lie bro..
I gave u prov 16:4...it was clearly stated...i gave u mark4:11-12...where jesus said so himself..
What are u saying sef?
He does not predestine anyone to destruction?
Pharaoh?
Judas?
Jesus killers?
Abege...

[s]"For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth" (1 Tim 3-4) "The Lord is not slack concerning His promise, as some count slackness, but is longsuffering toward us, not willing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance" (2 Pet 3:9)

How do we know those who are predestined to be called?
Only He knows, but without choosing life in Jesus Christ. You or anyone else would never know.[/s]

not my concern

"The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil." (Prov 16:4)
This scripture is unrelated.

i do not like insincere christians...

JMAN05:
Adam and Eve had knowledge of good and bad. The tree is of the knowledge of good and bad
is in the sense that they now set standard for themselves of good and bad.

if they had no standard...how then can they know that disobeying god is bad?
Gen 2:15-etc..

Edek27:
As the topic states let's talk about why you don't believe in God.
I personally I'm a christian
I dunno plenty atheists so I can't mention bt the ones I know here they are»
Seun
sonofluc1fer
KingEbukasblog
EyehateGod
Lennycool
Raphiemontella
Sveen
Hardmirror
otemanuduno
Christians also come in»
HumbledbYgrace,etc
It is I

uhm ??
Kingebukasblog is not an atheist

alolatee:
Also, there is law of redemption of late brother who had no child where his wife will be redeemed so as to give birth to a child in the name of the dead brother.That is to how far God would grant to Isreal(i must emphasis to Isreal during the law) that is where Er and Onan fell into.I believe this is a permissive will of God seeing the hardness of their heart he allowed it.That is the same reason God told Moses to allow husbands to divorce or misogny if to use your own word.God even now allows us without imposing His sovereign will on us make us choose different religions we want.For this same reason one can choose to be an atheist despite the fact that they can see creation and can read the bible in Psalm14vs1 saying only a fool can say in his heart there is no God.I timothy2vs5 says there is one God and one mediator between men and God, the man, Christ Jesus.So he allows us choose what we want despite the fact that it is not His perfect will for the hardness of our heart.God respects our privacy alot and will not intrude if we call Him quit.

summary and point?

Image123:
Yes it was, you wouldn't know if it was would you? It's like a blind man asking me how there's green colour in the Nigerian flag.

actually...its more like a specie of blind men..each tellinng each other what the colour of the flag is..if there is even a flag to begin with

TheSixthSense:
Why don't you quote the verse where the bible says that?

with pleasure sire!!

[s]We all have a choice between eternal life through Jesus Christ or condemnation. Nobody's going to make that choice for anyone.[/s]

lol..u didnt read the bible?
Oya take
prov16:4
mark 4:11-12

believe me!
The bible is never lacking such verses

onwuakpachris:
catholicism...pure fusion of paganism and christian doctrines to please both sides as .during the time of constantine the great..there was a great rivalry and clashes between the early Christians and pagans all over the Roman empire..Constantine being a shrewd and wise politician saw that the Christians were gaining the upper hand and were greatly increasing in number..hence in other to save his empire from imminent collapse he called together all d religious leaders @ the council of nicea in 327Ad and charged them to fuse(combine)together pagan and christian doctrines into a new state religion "christianity" to please both sides..hence the great debate kicked off..from whether Christ should be made God( divine)..to books to be included or not to be included in the bible..to dates for Christmas..e.t.c ..everything was debated and voted for..d debaters upheld the christian belief in one God..but in other to also please the pagans who were use to the belief in many gods brought Christ and the holy spirit into d god equation hence the pagan doctrine of the"Trinity" was born..the pagans so much adored women ...hence they regard women as the "sacred feminine"...hence without a woman..the god equation would never be complete and acceptable to them...as the egyptians had osiris nd his wife isis and son horus..the greeks had zeus nd his wife hera and son apollo(the sun god)..and the romans had jupiter and his wife juno and son mars..e.t.c and many other ancient pagans with the god equation of the "trinity"hence the debaters brought in a woman..Mary into the god equation..but in other not to anger the Christians by naming her a "god or wife of god"..they wisely named her "mother of god"..replaced her with the holy spirit in the Trinity.. but still adored her even more than the father and the son..to please the pagans who believed that the god mother is the channel to the god father and son as women are more caring and loving..hence the debaters instituted that God should be beseeched in prayers through Mary..to also please the pagans..the debaters placed the Christmas day on December 25..a day the pagans widely celebrate the return/birth of the sun worshipped as a god..and also placed the day of worship not on a saturday the true sabbath day but on a sunday..the day the pagans worshipped the sun...the debaters also approved the use of nd veneration of images in prayers to appease the pagans who were use to venerating images...in fact the most common image of Mary carrying baby Jesus on her laps commonly known as "Madonna of the rocks"..is the exact copy of the very image..the Egyptians used for Isis their mother goddess carying Horus..again the half moonlike shape called "halo" commonly used around the head of Christ..Mary and all the saints..was copied from the pagans who used same on their gods..e.t.c e.tc .infact there are so many other proofs and symbolisms to proove ma point beyond all reasonable doubt but of Cus let me just stop here for now...........

asin ehn...christianity bros
matthew had to search for prophecies,,made events up,,created prophecies,,for the status of jesus to be elevated to God..
The bible itself is catholic tradition..
Catholics interpolated the bible at will...forged many shvts to please their religion..
Paul created the last supper,,
many shvts...

Scatterscatter:
I have just one prayer for my Catholic friends. "I pray God in his mercy have mercy on you all especially those at the bottom of the carder (the ordinary church members)" this is because you don't know a jack about what catholism is truly all about.
The Vatican is a political stronghold used mainly to oppress the world in the crusade era, taking over territories and enslaving people!

Listen, Bowing to images is idolatry which is an abomination before God.

The Bible clearly states it that "Jesus is the way, the truth and the life ;no one cometh to the Father except through him." Jesus is also at the right hand side of God interceding on our behalf so please tell me why you have to go to the Father through mere mortals that will also be judged at the last day.!



Catholism is just another religion hiding under the shadow of Christianity.

Mind you, Jesus didn't come to start a religion, he came to show us the way to the Father and one of the promise he made while ascending was that he will send us the Holy Spirit to guide us, comfort us and show us what to do. Jesus never prayed through any man and he never taught us to pray dat way.

Catholics beware, the devil has taken over your religion.!!!

shhh! That devil gave u the demonic book called the bible ni!

Zenas212:
So a mere mortal (pope) who is a sinner has the right to pronounce someone a saint. Some many people are so blind. So much Idolatry in Catholic Church. Na only God fit save una.

but ur pastor pronounces u healed and u are healed....shey its not the same holy spirit working tru both of them ni?

these catholics and their hilarious traditions ehn...lol

emmanwandud:
That akward moment where mother Theresa also needs help where she is. So what happened to jesus and the blood he shed on calvary? This is more of a ritual because mother Theresa is long gone and has nothing to offer absolutely nothing. Quote me and face the repercussion

see this one
Lol weyrey!

mtsw

just look at the hatred emanating from the various sects of christianity which is supposed to be 'love'
kai!
Lwkmd..gullible christians...
All of em!

Ma flex small lol..

GuyfawkesAB:
Who give pope the right and the powers to declare another person as a saint? Is he a member of heaven's council?

ur bible said..on this rock i will build my church or something.

Who declared the fact that Mary had other children for Joseph to be false, citing that she remained a virgin all through her life?

she did according to the bible...
Even the founder of ur religion --martin luther believed and advocated that she was a virgin all her life

Who ever proposed the idea that we need to pray to dead "saints"

i thought u guys believed in the ''soul''??

to intercede for us when the Bible already said that the Holy Spirit will pray for us when we don't have the strength or idea of what to pray for?

by standards..all christians ive seen pray for their friends,,relatives,, etc
even protestants ask their pastors likewise

[s]Romans 8:26 Likewise the Spirit also helpeth our infirmities: for we know not what we should pray for as we ought: but the Spirit itself maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.
[/s]

not my drift

Where were we instructed in the scriptures to pray with rosary and bow before idols of Mary and a purported Jesus? (Catholics will defend that as not idols, but will readily declare and African effigy in a shrine as an idol)

ask them^^^
but wait o..jehovah asked moses to make images of angels and a serpent ni?
This jehovah sef...he is confused

[s]May God deliver our Catholic
brothers and sisters to see the truth.[/s]

judge not!!!
Lest ye be judged..

Most of then are already drunk on the doctrines and traditions,

jesus himself believed in traditions which are not found in the bible...
Maybe he was high ??

most of which are not found in the bible and will defend it blindly till the death

this bible!!
Is it not the one the same catholics gave to u?
The bible itself is catholic tradition
and ''sola scriptura'' is doctrine in its purest form..

This is why i love the bible...
U can advocate and condemn almost anything..with that same book!

An2elect2:
For by Grace are you saved through faith and that not
of yourself but it is a gift of God. Not of works so you
don't boast …Eph 2:8,9.

shh! So much hatred for a christian!
Read 1james girl

Do catholics trust in their works for salvation? Yes
with joy.

i always laugh at christians like you..

Are catholics contradicting the scriptures? o yes, with
all pleasure. Who doesn't like "traditions" better?

shh abeg!
Even ur god jesus quoted from tradition...he made comments from non scriptural books! So was jesus mad?
Jesus was prophesized to be called a nazarene by tradition..not by scripture...u can never find that prophecy in the scripture...
So the gospel writers who quoted from books which are not in the bible and considered hearsays are mad right?

Are catholics going to perish by biblical standards? O
pls, with all sadness.


Are they saved based on "traditions"? O well, if we are
talking "progressive salvation"

the holy spirit that ure commenting through ehn..
It must be high on drugs

Was m.Theresa a catholic? yesss


She followed the catholic doctrine of salvation?
that was all she knew.

read the bible the catholics gave u
which u so much advocate for

By biblical standards, is she with Jesus? obviously No

i thought u said..no one knows who is in heaven or not?
Are u not a big hypocrite?
I love christians for this

But by catholic "traditions"? Yea she is in paradise
seated at the right hand side of the "blessed virgin
Mary" who still has baby "Jesus" in her arm.

jesus s.ucked mary's breasts u know...
He may still wanna have a taste of it...u never can tell

Sanchez01:
And why on God's earth would I want to be a Catholic They day I think about it is the day I lose my mind and become and atheist! My point is, you guys should carrying the Bible since most of actions are contrary to the instructions therein. It's not a crime to have your own book. A particular denomination use the book of Mormon, I see no reason why you people can't do the same. Rather, you dwell on the KJV and embed some of your writings in it.

when u finally understand that the bible is catholic..u will know christianity as a whole is just their game plan..

Ranchhoddas:
Perhaps. Perhaps not. Maybe He wasn't born of a virgin, maybe the resurrection and the ascension did not take place, but when an unbiased mind looks at the teachings of Christ, those words that are usually in red if you are using a red-letter-edition Bible, you'd definitely come to the conclusion that they could only have emanated from the mouth of One filled with profound wisdom.

true..
Except when he said what goes inside the body cant make u sick.

But your bias would never allow you to do that..,

can u prove this?
Where i said with authority that the man didnt walk the face of earth? Or men rada..

Look at the beatitudes, those parables that have stood for over two millenia, and tell me with a straight face that they were made by a fictional character.

how did they even know words he said?
if they werent there?
Oral tradition and hearsay...

You all venerate Buddha,

no i dont

Confucius,

dont know taoism much but no!

Zoroaster

pro'ly...i hold the same esteem for he and jesus..his doctrine of hell became christian

and the rest but you dare attempt to relegate the greatest of them all to the status of mythology because of your disdain for His followers.

christianity was designed to spread..
Most biblical contradictions are intentional..

Una well done....If this is not even enough, the strange things that still happen today when that Rabbi's name is invoked should give anyone who claims to be RATIONAL pause.

true....though when i see it happens to other religious sects...i know its not exclusively christian...