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francawilson: Where did u watch WWE Summer Slam 2014? I'v bn wanting 2watch d fight btw Stephanie&Bree Bella AND John Cena vs The Beast! Did u buy or dwnload it?

tbaba12345: Can you give me any other concept apart from the 'God concept' that transcends human subjectivity?

tbaba12345: Our Intuition, reason and logic keep shifting the borders of what is good or evil. It is all subjective. The point is there is no objective good without God. It depends on societal conventions which keep changing.

So today, it is good, tomorrow, it is evil.

tbaba12345: Exactly, my point ... Human subjectivity at play.

God is the only concept that transcends human subjectivity. Without God, there is no objective good or evil

tbaba12345: I am pretty sure, the woman wearing the hijab didn't even notice you. She was just practising her beliefs yet you are getting upset. Maybe you are the one that needs a review of your own values.

Would you have complained if the person wore a hoody? Then why should a scarf upset you so?

tbaba12345: What I am saying is that if God does not exist then there are NO objective moral values. Moral values such as “Murdering innocent people for entertainment is wrong” and “Defending the innocent is good” are merely social conventions without God.

God is the only concept that transcends our subjectivity.

Today doing x might be considered wrong, tomorrow it is considered right. There is no objective right or wrong as it is dependent on the social conditions.

With God, there is an objective anchor for right and wrong.

tbaba12345: Yet societies have deemed it ok to murder others, How is that an objective value? Societies deemed it ok to burn people on stakes or kill a certain race. It is subject to societal conventions.
What I mean by objective is something that is not influenced by personal feelings or opinions in considering and representing facts, and not dependent on the mind for existence.
God is the only concept that transcends that subjectivity. With God, these values remain constant and does not depend on human prejudices.
And if you asked 100 muslims about God, there is a very Good chance that you will get the same answers in over 90% of cases as God is defined clearly in the Quran.

naturalwaves: You just validatee my point with the use of the word "flimsy" and what that means is that those you referring to dived for tackles that aren't worth falling for. Morover, my point isn't about statistics, it is about what it is not what is available. When a short player doesn't wanna go down,you can hardly make him go down.

tbaba12345: Besides the incorrect analogy, the bolded is not correct with islamic theology.

Islam does not say, all those who are not believers go to hell. Rather there must be evidence against you. Those who have presented with Islam is its pure form and rejected it due to arrogance, has evidence against themselves.

“… And We never punish until We have sent a Messenger (to give warning).” [al-Israa’17:15].

So muslim do not say x or y is going to hell.

Practising your religion does not equate to flaunting it.

logicboy01: And where is the hypocrisy?

Show me

logicboy01: It is psychologically damaging.

And since you feel that atheists asking for their constitutional rights is the same as radical christians protesting outside an abortion clinic, I HAVE TO LEAVE YOU WITH YOUR FOOLISHNESS. GOODBYE

logicboy01: So what?

Your terrorists are more popular than christian terrorists

Kay17: @tb1234
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How was it possible for you to say there are no objective moral facts in the absence of an agent -- God?! The idea of objectivity is that the moral facts ought to stand on their own. If not, they lose their nature of objectivity.

logicboy01: who is the troublemaker- the Airforce higher-ups who are breaking the law/constitution and infringing on the religious freedom of atheist soldiers or the atheist soldier who is claiming his rights?

kemiola89: Try watching it again, this time with patience... I didn't like it at first, the start was boring but now I'm an addict.

RayMcBlue: It has a latino setting and ambience. Even the background music are latina in nature. More than 95% of the cast are latina. What more do you need to convince you that this show is a Mexican soap opera shot in America?

They over-dramatize everything too: the suspense doesn't feel like suspense at all. The action is laughable. The show is extremely unfunny, or maybe doesn't appeal to my sense of humour, and I happened to have a great sense of humour. There is no drama, just a bunch of brown people running around, and trying too much. The romance is atypical Mexican soap interpretation of romance... which is really no romance at all. Only kisses here and there... and nothing else.

Sorry pal, but I'd sooner put a bullet through my head than appraise that show with my viewing pleasure... again.

logicboy01: Well, you seem to like your constitutional rights being trampled upon.

In the USA, it is illegal to make "so help me God" compulsory in any govt job

lanrexlan: A question to what you said.

lanrexlan: Surah At-Tur 52:35-36 -Were they created by nothing,or were they themselves the creators? Or did they create the heavens and the earth? Nay,but they have no firm Belief.

tbaba12345: This smacks of intolerance. Your concept of what a religion should be or is, is irrelevant and should not be imposed on anyone. Wearing a hijab is part of a muslim woman faith. It is part of her identity. You want to strip that away to conform to your secular, liberal ideas.

Islam as a religion is not limited to the private life, there are public aspects to it.

TrollMan: In Afghanistan, Iraq and Iran, women use hijab to bomb and kill people. They usually disguise themselves inside this as suicide bombers. Is that the body Image?

tbaba12345: This is nonsense.

In the first 500 years of Islam, Muslims were technologically, militarily and economically the most advanced in the world – innovating many new technologies and expanding the boundaries of human knowledge.

Christianity was never the reason for the European dark ages, but rather the fall of the Roman Empire and the rise of barbarian tribes is the most glaringly obvious reason. Historians are generally agreed that the last great ancient, or classical period philosopher before the fall into the dark ages was the Christian thinker St Augustine!

For most of the last 500 years, technological advancement in the West started, and has mostly occurred, under highly religious non-democratic european monarchies and empires.

The vast majority of pioneering Western scientists were not Atheists, nor did they live under Secularism, but rather they were devout Catholics and even clergy (e.g. Roger Bacon, Johannes Kepler, Copernicus, Descartes, Pascal, Boyle and even the recent George Lemaitre, discoverer of the ‘big bang theory’…) or protestant Church (e.g. Newton) – and much scientific literature and almost ALL institutes of higher education and research were under patronage by the Catholic [and later Anglican] Church!

https://www.nairaland.com/1794405/islam-muslims-side-talk-station/20#26144328

naturalwaves: I disagree. If you use the principle of physics, Ronaldo falls more often because of his height and that's why sports vehicles are usually closer to the ground. Messi is closer to the ground and so can maneuver better. It is players like Peter Crouch, Nwakwo Kanu and co that will fall so easily. Messi stays more on his feet not because he decides to but his build favours that (that's what I am disagreeing with). If you play football, you will observe that short players are difficult to stop or hack down. Moreover, doesn't it sound funny to say Messi has more strength than Ronaldo? Let's say he does, how about AGRESSION and POWER? Ronaldo flies higher than Messi in these.