₦airaland Forum

YungMillionaire:
I hope the Yorubas don't do to their culture what the Igbos and others have done to theirs. Its a shame that an educator could stand in front of people and insult an original African culture culture. If the Europeans had eradicated their own culture would we have Christians today in Nigeria? USELESS OLD MAN

They kind of did. If they didn't, they would be worshipping Odin and Thor today. Christianity is not European. It was adopted and adapted from the Middle East

Whizkid is a word na. Check your dictionary. It means a gifted child.

Besides, I believe the artiste is 'wizkid' not 'whizkid'. So yea, different words.

Presently, there are Nigerian filmmakers turning out really really decent films and winning awards on the continent. The likes of Kunle Afolayan, Obi Emelonye, etc.

If you choose to keep watching low-budget nonsense, that is entirely your business, but don't say the nonsense you choose to watch is representative of Nollywood as a whole.

tonychristopher:
Do you know that we have ovim village in ebonyi
Irabor is an Igbo name and has igbo meaning
And it also have Edo meaning

What is the meaning of Irabor in Igbo?

Danger Mouse and Super Ted.

And I am not 30 yet.

Kirigidi:
Diallo is a popular name among d Mandingo nd Malinke pipo of d Republics of Guinea, Gambia, Senegal, Mali nd parts of Serra-Leone. Diallo is not a typical Nigerian name.

It is actually a Fulani name. But not typical of Nigerian Fulanis. Nigerian Fulanis typically answer Jallo, which a dialectical variation of Diallo.

The boobs no follow. Go back to surgery.

What was he even trying to say with that "Matter be matter mattered matter...." comment?

WTF?

I don't know who are dumber - the soldiers, or the people who think this is funny.

Bros, calm down and explain yourself so that we can understand you. You said that history is repeating itself and ibos are attacking yoruba again. Please, where and when did ibos attack yoruba again?

summerflame:
I am here to check names and I am not disappointed in the chest beaters. The Jews are at it again.

Another ignorant Nigerian who cannot tell the tribes apart.

YourNemesis:
At all.
I googled king of Owerri and got a million people as result.

Only you know what you searched for. The Njemanze dynasty has reigned in Owerri for generations.

Enugu probably has not traditional ruler as it is a town created by the Europeans during colonial times, and as such is not a 'traditional' town. The Igwe of Nike, however (Igwe Nnaji) lays claim to certsin suburbs of the town.

YourNemesis:
Maybe they just dont have any?

They don't have traditional rulers at all? Or they have but they are not elected? Which one of these two are you suggesting?

YourNemesis:
Ok 1 simple question.
What society are you from, I will assume Igbo based on the premise of this thread.

Who are the elected kings os
1 - Aba
2- Owerri
3- Enugu
4- Abakaliki

I do not know. I'm from none of those communities.

YourNemesis:
Where I am from, traditional rulers are not elected like they are some kind of administrative clerk.
They are embodiments and custodians of traditional culture.

Which takes me back to my original comment here: What is it that makes you feel that the selection process for people who occupy a traditional position (be it king or titleholder) has to be done everywhere the way it is done in your own community? Is it cultural arrogance that makes you feel this way?

As I have told you, many societies follow (or followed in the past) an elective kingship system. We cannot all live by YOUR norms.

YourNemesis:
so, what are his administrative functions as an elected office holder?

What are the administrative functions of traditional rulers where you come from?

ImperialYoruba:
Where in the world do people cast vote to elect King

Wtf is dis? Who are these people of oruaukwu? Are these Ibo people

It is very easy for anyone with internet access to look up elective monarchies throughout history, from ancient Rome to the Holy Roman Empire. Everyone must not do things the way they are done in your neck of the woods.

ehikwe22:
I quoted you because of your double standard concerning Anioma and Itsekiri. Everybody has right to self determination. if you claim your right to have Biafra, same way Anioma claim for a right to an ethnic identity. now you have more right in a thread that concerns Anioma more than me? you're senseless.

Biafra? What is Biafra doing in this thread? Who brought Biafra into this? What is the connection between a political aspiration (Biafra) and a language group (Igbo)? Who is senseless here? Please get a-moving. Anioma is an artificial quasi-political union, not an ethnic group. When we want to address the whole Anioma, we will look for you, this is about Ukwuani alone and their so-called Igboness, and as I said, it doesn't concern your ika or the rest of anioma. Get a-moving.

Anyway i don't even care what Ukwuani say they are. It is when they start lying and saying that their language has only slight similarity with igbo, and that their culture is completely different that I feel someone has to step up and tell them the truth.

ehikwe22:
Who makes you the determiner of what it takes to be Igbo it Yoruba? Did you consult the Ukwani before making such?

Did anyone consult Ezza, Nkanu, Ngwa, etc before deciding that they are Igbos? They woke up one morning and found that modern anthropologists have classified them as such based on language similarities.

Did someone consult you before deciding that you are a mammal? You went to school one day and your science teacher told you you are a mammal based on similarities with other animals in that category.

You are Ika, as is clear by your name. Do you mind leaving this discussion for Ukwuani and southeasterners as it doesn't really concern you.

ndlane:
Ukwuani people and the Igbo's do not have a common ancestry,

Lie. Yes, some Ukwuani claim Bini origin. But don't lie and say some don't also claim Igbo origin. Some southeast Igbo also claim Bini or even Igala or Ibibio origin. So arguing by origin will be just wasting your time.

They don't share the same cultural or traditional practices, they don't share the same cultural values

Lie. Lie. You can only tell this lie to someone who hasn't looked into Ukwuani culture. The defining cultural elements are the same with their kin in the east. Every group within the Igbo nation has some unique attributes that set them apart. Uratta has unique attribites from Nsukka, and so on. Ukwuani too should have its own unique cultural attributes.

they don't even have similar physical attributes.

Hian. What does physical attributes mean again. Ukwuani people look different physically from Igbo people? The Ukwuani people that i have seen or another one. Biko, explain.

the similarities in language are even very minimal so I wonder why people want to just throw a bunch of people together and say they are one on the basis of slight similarity in language.

Lie. Lie. Hay God, how can someone lie like this? The similarity is not slight or minimal anything. Stop lying. An honest Ukwuani man would tell you you are lying as far as lanhuage similarity is concerned. It is NOT minimal. Stop.

calling an Ukwuani man Igbo is tantamount to Calling a Fulani man Housa

No it is not. The Fulani have their own language, Fulfude which is nothing like Hausa language. Do you have yoir own language which is nothing like Igbo language?

or calling an Itshekiri man Yoruba because they bear similar names or speak similar languages.

The only point in this entire comment. Now I will give you the answer. Yoruba ethnicity is defined different from Igbo ethnicity. To be yoruba, two requirements are required to be met. One, that you have a royal line that claims Oduduwa descent. Two, that you claim origin from Ile-Ife. Language is not that important to be Yoruba. That is why Akoko-Ondo people who have their own non-Yoruba language can be Yoruba, because they claim Ife origin.
To be Igbo you only need to meet one standard. Speak one of the many variants of the language. Does Ukwuani meet that standard, yes.

No one can tell the history of a people better than the people themselves

This is not about history. Every Igbo group get their own history.

DaBullIT:
Yyeebo Threads



I guess the Yoruba race gives you nightmares

It seems Yeebos are the ones giving you nightmares. When you are seeing them everywhere, even on threads they did not start.

I can see that the people who this thread was made for have decided to leave it for you. I wanted to leave it too but let me just say one or two things.

1. I don't undastand how you expect people who were not at the event to have a full list of attendees and be able to tell who was Delta or Rivers or who was not. The few attendees you will find their names in the media are only prominent well-known people.

2. Nevertheless, by going through the few posts on NL that talked about this forum in Imo State, I found one prominent Delta man's name there. Retired Colonel Joe Oseloka Achuzie. Col Joe Achuzia is from Oshimili South LGA in Delta, and is an Ohaneze Ndigbo stalwart. I believe he is the past National Secretary of Ohanaeze Ndigbo.

3. If what you are trying to prove here is that nobody from Delta or Rivers associates with Ohaneze, then you could not be more wrong.

4. While I do not know who and who was at the meeting in Imo State, I do know for a fact that there are Rivers and Delta membership within Ohaneze.

5. For example, the last time I was informed an Ikwerre man from Isiokpo in Ikwere LGA, Prince Igo Okparanma was President of Ohaneze Ndigbo in Rivers State http://nigerianewspoint.com/bulk-vote-ohaneze-rivers-yet-to-endorse-candidates/

6. Another Ikwere man was the Deputy Secretary General of Ohaneze. Chief Isaac Wonwu. http://nigeriamasterweb.com/blog/index.php/2014/04/21/2015-ndigbo-join-presidential-race-as-ndigbo-in-rivers-state-restates-there-igboness
The article above mAkes reference to him. He is currently a vice president of Ohaneze. Chief Isaac Wonwu is a politician Ikwerre/Emohua Constituency, and is a well known figure. Look him up. Look up Ajoku Alerechi and Uche Okwukwu, too.

7. Do i need to say that the last President-General of Ohaneze was a Delta man from Ogwashiuku. Late Ambassador Ralph Uwechue?

8. At the end of the day, it is a fact that many people from those areas do not want to have anything to do with Ohaneze or Igbo. But dont suggest that no
Delta or Rivers man is in Ohaneze because that one is also a lie.

C'mon, folks. The majority of these pictures look photoshopped, especially the one with Ludacris in it. That one is just plain bad photoshop.

todayboy:
The one that was killed in Kano is from imo state

But you said 'evangelist'. The one killed in Kano was not an evangelist, which means you must have been talking about the Abuja incident.

todayboy:
Why are they killing evangelist from east

If you are referring to the evangelist killed in abuja, she was not from the east, she was yoruba.

Loooolooooool!

How can you type this and call yourself a serious person? You are praising Bush for attacking a country that had nothing to do with 9/11, destabilising the middle east and creating the right atmosphere for a terrorist group deadlier and more brutal than al-qaeda to arise. ISIS!

Are you a serious person at all? Even Tony Blair and other people who supported the war now admit that it was a terrible mistake, and here you are writing a treatise.

oodua1stson:
I know all tribes have wicked people but ibo people eh? E get as e be.



I know quite a lot of ibo guys who will never set foot kn their village again because of the way his parents were murdered.



I also know an ibo guy whose father was poisoned




My friends parents vanished after going home for Christmas. Till date no one has heard of them or seen them

When will you people get tired of talking about other peoples's problems when your own is there looking at you in your face. I know many yoruba people in this lagos who will not go to their village for the same reason. One Ondo chick told me she has never been to her village because her father said they are bad and she doesn't want to die, and that she will do her trad marriage in lagos. That is when I even knew that yoruba people don't need to go to village for trad, they can just do it in the city, unlike igbo people. Face your own problems.

bigfrancis21:
Documents showing census from Lagos conducted around the early 1900s show that Igbo people were already living in Lagos as of the early 1900s. Igbos had already begun to migrate out of Igboland in the early 1900s to western Nigeria, northern Nigeria, western cameroon etc. (in fact the main reason the English-speaking part of Cameroon left Nigeria to join Cameroon was to stop Igbo domination in their land - just like in pre-civil war, Igbos were everywhere in their government, schools, etc. holding strategic positions) before Nigeria as a country was formed. For example, Nnamdi Azikiwe, one of Nigeria's pioneers, was born in Zungeru, Northern Nigeria as early as 1904 and his father was already living in the North as of that time before Nnamdi was born. It may be so that cultural diffusion, as it always is, may have occurred between Igbos and Yorubas as far back as that time. On the other hand, the word could just be a shared word between both languages. Iru may be the Yoruba style of preparing Ogiri while Ogiri proper could be the Igbo style of preparing fermented egusi soups which has been adopted by the Yorubas in addition to their Iru. Let us not try to mix things up here. The truth is that lots of cultural exchanges occurred in the past way before our parents' generation was born.

With the popularity of Igbo foods all over Nigeria and beyond, it is very easy for other tribes to adopt certain Igbo foods and spices and 50 years down the line, the newly born generation born into a time when it was already popular in their tribe would think these foods/spices were 'authentically' theirs.

Please provide the link to this 1913 dictionary article.

U people are funny, so a negligible number of igbo in lagos had already made ogiri so popular in yorubaland that the word entered a yoruba dictionary by 1913. The lagos you are talking about sef ogiri is not very popular there, but it is in the interior. So igbo left lagos and went and gave them ogiri in the interior before 1913. Meanwhile I can't find ogiri or ogili in a onitcha dictionary that I have in my archives. You people need to drop this supremacy attitude and understand that igbo and yoruba share words in common because of distant relation. Even oka which means maize is also in yoruba language and they did not borrow from igbo. They share the word together. Bishop Crowther recorded that oka is maize in yoruba in 1843.

I ave given the name of the dictionary, and it is easy to locate it on google.

oboy3:
Onye asi

ogiri is 100% igbo

i stay in lagos and never heard yoruba use ogiri instead of iru,btw what soup do yoruba cook ogiri with

many igbos especially anambrarians hardly cook soups without it,we have two types of ogiri,,,ogiri mmili and ogiri okpi/okpe

I will come and be lying because of what? Is anyone crediting my akant to claim ogiri for yoruba? That you stay in lagos and have not seen ogiri doesnt mean. Me I have stayed in nsukka and I have never seen ofe achara. Will i now come and say ofe achara is not igbo? Ihe onye amaro ka ya.

I have done a screengrab of the 1913 dictionary. The title is "a dictionary of the yoruba language" by the c.m.s. If you like you can go online and look for it.

Going back to ogiri, I dont believe it is borrowed by yoruba, because I have seen it in a yoruba dictionary by the missionaries that came out in 1913. At that time there were not yet many igbo people in yorubaland for the yoruba to borrow it from them.

So the word may be both an igbo and a yoruba word, and one did not borrow from the other.

Google's idea or what idiots mostly search for about the respective tribes?