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essentialone:
Can there ever be a Peaceful Protest in Nigeria?

larride:
Apart from Alaafin Majeogbe, he forced the first 3 to commit suicide. He directly killed Alaafin Majeogbe but unlike the movie, it was one of Majeogbe soldiers that hit him with a charm belt that paralyzed him (some other account says it was princess Agbonyi lover that hit him with the charm)

Ga'a did beg for his life in Alaafin Abiodun palace because before killing the Alaafin daughter for that ritual, he actually didnt really interfere in Alaafin Abiodun government.

The film isn't fiction, just that there was some misinterpretation here and there. Ga'a was skinned alive by the people in the real life story but the producer changed it to burnt alive.

NLCreator:
https://x.com/egi_nupe___/status/1817068482950832290?s=19[/quote]That the Nupe conquered Oyo at a point doesn't mean they couldn't have lost a war to Oyo at another point. The mighty Romans lost a battle disgracefully to Germanic tribesmen in Teutoburg forest. The British were humiliated by the Zulus at Isandlwana. Anyone can lose a war/battle. So this particular criticism doesn't quite stick - it seems like your ethnic pride was (understandably?) hurt. Unfortunately, your emotions don't qualify as valid criticism.

I think I agree that the Nupe girl could have been given an ethnic Nupe name, rather than an Arabic one. The same way I felt the Igala prince in the movie 'Amina' could have been given an ethnic Igala name, rather than Danjuma, an Hausa name. But I'm sure Arabic names were not very out of place in mid-18th-century Nupeland. So a Nupe girl called Zeinab isn't as far-fetched in the 18th century as an Igala man called called Danjuma in the 16th century!

But I wish the scriptwriters had made the Oyo people to call her Seenabu in agreement with Oyo-Yoruba phonology. That would have been more authentic than making 18th century Oyo people articulate 'z' when we know they couldn't.

clefstone:
Do we speak Igbo language? Yes our language is undoubtedly a dialect of Igbo. Do we bear Igbo names? Yes, since our language is Igboid, we surely bear names that are Igbo. Are we Igbos? An emphatic NO!

MightySparrow:
They are playmates.
I have never read anywhere where igbos and Yorubas fight physically like what we have in Ibadan and Kétu markets between Hausa and Yorubas

herich:
Africans were colonized by Europeans, so bearing and speaking European languages is understandable.
Did Igbos also colonize ikwerre people?

Seun:
I will make my decision on who will assist justwise from the people who have applied so far. Thanks so much.

9JAMac10:
Your man Mansa Musa was given to you by the whites to boost your esteem. An adult still belonging in fairytales. You are ignorant

9JAMac10:
I think Mansa Musa was a creation by white people to make blacks and Africans have some sort of self esteem even the stories of the Alleged Mansa Musa seem fabricated. Why is Africa the only continent with a great past and not so great present and future . Mansa Musa story is an absolute joke

Sladem05:
Yeah, The Moors weren’t Black. Afrocentrism is desperation.

Ghostagain:
Indeed Cesar made himself king but since kingship was not popular, he created the title emperor for himself. So he was emperor, not king, while in reality it was the same thing.

yarimo:
But he can't go to Kano state and condole with the late actress family that died abi

Omoawoke:
Whites have some kind of mental disorder that scientists haven’t figured out

jellea:
I replied the way i did because of how you replied me. You did not give any reasons why it should not be Eze NRI. You said "abeg dont add igbo to this Benin and Yoruba matter" what kind of statement is that?

Igbo stock are the oldest in this region. So why do you always bring up your Ife of yesterday?? its very appalling. It is not Attah of Igala because Eze Nri also crowns Attah of Igala, just like he does with Benin Kings. Your stinking superiority complex will never allow you to read anything about Eze Nri. Ogane ins benin is a title. it means the great one. it is not specific to anyone. any king can be referred to as the great one. Ask beinn people about this. Why did your yoruba fake writers in the later version made sure to write ogane na uhe? when it was not mentioned in the first account. it is very embarassing and thats why im calling you guys out. Beside note that europeans were always trying to attribute any discovery to themselves. they will find a way to shift it to ife and befor you know it, they will shift it to mali, and from there to the arabs. thats how you will lose what you invented in africa. they used lots of yoruba writies to do this. also they told nri people that they are from Israel juts to discredit how old there civilization was.

Also reread the direct word from the author. He said Inhabitants of this region (he is talking about multiple sources). Im sure he himself wanted to make sure the direction each person he asked the question was right, therefore he kept asking different people he met in Benin at the time of the report.

I did not just conclude that its Eze Nri, rather I used igbo calendar days (moon calendar) to decipher this. Many Igbo researcher don't really care about this statement. If they did, they will even prove this beyond what i said. Even there is Igbo house in Ile ife meaning that Eze Nri may have done similar thing in the past there. Also Eze Nri himself said they perform this religious task for Benin in the past. Ask yourself where the so called founder of Benin died? where do they pay homage? obviously not Nri, but its in these same area and not to the west of Benin.

If it was not Ezeh Nri, then why do Benin still practice Nri culture of four market days, as well as Igala. You can deny and rewrite history as you want but the traces will there.

Oromiyan conquered both benin and Ife. yoruba its not from this area. They migrated from West. thats why you have huge number of them outside Nigeria borders. They got to Ife through war. thats why the name doesnt sound yoruba but rather igbo/igala. the further you go west, the more the language of yoruba is more prominent, proving that they only corrupted the language of those to the east of them.

in fact benin original language is like that of those from igbanke and anioma. politics is very bad. first is they start to add letters to there word and will keep pronouncing it differently. but if you breakdown the words, you will be shocked at what is going on. igbanke name for instance was igbo akiri. ibuzo was igbo bi na uzo.. even we are witnesing this first hand from ikwere just after the war in 1970. they started adding R prefix to all there words. umu changed to rumu.

its very annoying because i dont understand why people like to falsify history. and the young ones are falling for it. you dont have to be igbo because not everyone called igbo is actually igbo. igbo is jus ta general name for the group.. it doesnt mean they share same ancestor. benin,ibibio, igala and igbo are same group of people. but yoruba and ijaw are different from them, but dont allow people change your own history for peanut. Benin mornach is of yoruba, but the people are not. although oromiyan arrived with his amry from ife and they settled there. also benin had lots of slave villages. lots of immigrant there

jellea:
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typical response of Yoruba man. Even Eze Nri does same to Attah Igala. The story is very clear. Remember, not just one person said this to the Portuguese. It says the inhabitant of this region (multiple sources of people living in Benin at the time).

And why was Ife not mentioned in the statement? I just proved to you that it was Nri king. History of benin and ife is about Oromiyan conquest of Igodomidogo. Its not Yoruba history. Its between Ife and Benin.

And you dont even bother to read about Eze Nris and what they do. They are spiritual leaders. They never conquered a land. It was always peaceful. many of these lies you guys portray will be exposed once more Igbo people start taking history serious.

I don't really want to tribalistic because at the end we are all one big family, but Yorubas like to change history. In the later articles, they try to find a way to insert ogane na uhe. Something that was never mentioned.

the igodomidogo, igalas and nri igbos are from one family. they are same people

jellea:
After thorough research, it appears that the Portuguese accounts likely referred to Eze NRI rather than Ile Ife. Initially, the narrative specifies that the journey was 20 moons walking days to the East of Benin. This calculation is straightforward; 20 moon days equate to 24 hours multiplied by 20 days. Additionally, considering they wouldn't be walking continuously, an estimated walking day might involve around 10 hours of travel before resting. Thus, the distance covered to the East amounts to 20 days multiplied by 10 hours of walking per day, resulting in approximately 200 km. Confirming this, a check on Google Maps reveals that the walking distance between Benin City and Nri ranges from 197 km to 207 km depending on the chosen route.

Interestingly, the distance from Benin to Ile Ife is also similar. However, Ile Ife is not situated to the East of Benin but rather to the North-West, unlike Nri, which lies exactly to the East of Benin city. Moreover, the article in question focused on a spiritual leader rather than a political figure, drawing comparisons to the Pope. Later European observers noted Nri's spiritual influence over numerous kingdoms, emphasizing their mutual independence rather than subordination to one another. This understanding is widespread in the Anambra region regarding Nri's spiritual sway, characterized by a lack of political conquests and a commitment to maintaining autonomy.

Based on this research, one could conclude that any community practicing Nri culture might be considered part of the Nri kingdom, as in ancient times, they saw themselves as unified under Nri's spiritual leadership.

Lastly, regarding the orientation of maps, it's worth noting that prior to the age of discovery, maps were commonly depicted with South at the top, following the conventions of ancient civilizations like the Egyptians. However, during the European age of discovery, maps were reoriented with North at the top, reflecting the dominance and perspective of European explorers. Through my research, it becomes evident that by this time, the Portuguese were indeed using maps with the North at the top, aligned with the current convention.

Simbrixton:
igbos have h1b1 DNA which is similar to the Portuguese according to a lot of phd papers i have seen

Simbrixton:
It was mainly the Portuguese sleeping with igbo women just like they did in cape verde

In this 2021, someone using internet and who claims to be literate is still carrying pictures of caricatures around. Just carved out wooden images are what this one brings out here. Lol. Mehn! How a man in his senses will allow him to be deceived to this point baffles me. Some of them too will be shouting gods of Yoruba, and gods of hausa. Which gods? The one of thunder which is powerless? The one of iron which fake? Where are gods and they can't deliver Nigeria from poverty? The gods are all fake fake fake. We have read about politicians going to swear in those powerless shrines. At last, the politicians still betray themselves and nothing happens to them. What about Orji Uzo Kalu and his many shrines whatever that is coming out? The guy who is bursting him...has anything happened to him?

I will NEVER worship.....man made God. Never!

There is ONLY one TRUE GOD. And He is the God of Abraham Isaac and Jacob. All other gods are the works of men. Just ordinary wooden carved. Even the British stole so many into those days. Funny.... that they can steal a God, and you still think it is your savior. Your head needs real examination. In this 2021. What a mess? I weep for anyone involved in this mess. Chai!

I know one true God. I have tested Him, and the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob will NEVER fail. NEVER! Try him today!

Goodluck!

Probz:
As in, what was your initial blank response supposed to be and what are your overall thoughts about this thread considering you’re often draw to discussions like this and have significant Igala heritage?

greens:
Amen. Thanks

Fisiryorh:
"Who drew"...🤦🏾‍♂️