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Culture / Re: Amazing Japanese Names That Are NIGERIAN by RedboneSmith(m): 12:59pm On Jan 12 |
Pure unadulterated bull dung. Everything this Ross-something posts shows a deep feeling of inadequacy that has to be made up for by creating fantasies. Similarity in SOUND between words DOES NOT reflect relationship. There are hundreds and thousands of words that sound/look alike in different languages that are not related. Similarity in MEANING is a much more important reflector of a relationship. If you check the meanings of these Japanese words and compare them with the meanings of their Nigerian lookalikes, you will see that MOST of them don't even REMOTELY mean the same thing. I'll close my little comment by repeating: PURE UNADULTERATED BULL DUNG. 1 Like 1 Share |
Culture / Re: Rivers And Delta State People Are Igbos (videos) by RedboneSmith(m): 12:20am On Jan 12 |
ChinenyeN: Dialect levelling is taking place, even when people are not aware that it is happening. In Anioma, I hear people use typically Southeastern Igbo words and language structure while not being fully aware of the non-Aniomaness of parts of their speech. |
Religion / Re: The Real Reason Behind The Cooked Bbc Report On Tb Joshua by RedboneSmith(m): 2:07pm On Jan 09 |
Anybody who believes this is a gang-up against Joshua should just go and donate his/her brain to medical research, cos clearly you don't have any use for it. 12 Likes 1 Share |
Culture / Re: Why Are There Nigerians With Chinese Names And Language Systems? by RedboneSmith(m): 12:01am On Jan 01 |
Rossikk: You must be a drooling brain-dead imbeci.le, with a severe psychological problem to boot. You and everybody in your extended family. And there's no one on this whole platform with a more debilitating case of inferiority complex than you. Check yourself. |
Culture / Re: Who Has The Largest Population Between Yoruba And Igbo by RedboneSmith(m): 4:52pm On Dec 22, 2023 |
Teddy0147:Ment. |
Culture / Re: History Of Ogori And Magongo In Kogi State by RedboneSmith(m): 9:17pm On Dec 15, 2023 |
Beuberry: The simple answer is acculturation and linguistic assimilation. . I have learnt not to trust oral traditions too much when it comes to origins. People tend to claim that they come from a culture or kingdom that has influenced them significantly. The linguistic data indicates that they were/are a non-Yoruba people. 1 Like 1 Share |
Culture / Re: History Of Ogori And Magongo In Kogi State by RedboneSmith(m): 5:37pm On Dec 12, 2023 |
Beuberry: Yes, they are Yorubas, when you choose to conveniently ignore the fact that there is actually an Ogori language which is not Yoruboid. 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Top Five West African Languages Spoken In The United States - 2022 by RedboneSmith(m): 10:36am On Dec 12, 2023 |
Gamesmart: You could be correct. The statistics are actually about what number speaks those languages at home; it is not about the total number of people of those ethnicities in the US. There are over a million Nigerian-Americans. But if you add the Nigerians in that data set, e no even reach 400,000 because most Nigerians in the USA don’t speak their native languages. And from my experience, Yorubas are more likely than Igbos to maintain and pass their language to their children. 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Who Are The Original Inhabitants Of Onisha by RedboneSmith(m): 9:20pm On Dec 10, 2023 |
LOL. The aboriginal occupants of Inland Onitsha were an Igbo subgroup known as Oze people. The Waterside was occupied by some immigrant Igala fishing people called Ulutu/Mgbelekeke. |
Culture / Re: Will The Revisionist Still Deny This? by RedboneSmith(m): 12:25pm On Dec 06, 2023 |
Igala origin in Owo? Lol. Ayegba Abdullahi is a notorious and discredited liar on Facebook sha. He has been claiming that the Afro-Brazilians of Yoruba descent are Igala. Anything he says should be taken with a giant pinch of salt. Some Benin blood in Owo is easily conceivable as there was intensive contact and exchange between both kingdoms, but Igala no dey that equation. 1 Like 1 Share |
Politics / Re: Lord Lugard With Obed-Edom Chukwuemeka Azikiwe, Father Of Nnamdi Azikiwe by RedboneSmith(m): 2:03pm On Dec 02, 2023 |
DomPerignon: You have to be a mouth breather to believe a word of this post. 1 Like |
Culture / Re: What Language Is Spoken Often In Your Family? by RedboneSmith(m): 7:32pm On Dec 01, 2023 |
A mix of English and our local language. It is very common for us to start a sentence in English, switch to Igbo in the middle and return to English by the end. |
Culture / Re: The Oduduwa Controversy by RedboneSmith(m): 11:59am On Dec 01, 2023 |
charsoso: Ok. Here goes. First of all, I will have to point out that Naiwu Osahon is not a historian - the man has no advanced degree of any sort in any field of history. His LinkedIn page lists all sorts of esoteric titles: Hon. Khu Mkuu (whatever that means), Ameer Spiritual, etc. There's nothing anywhere to suggest that he is a professional historian or has ever published anything on history in a peer-reviewed academic journal. So I'm not going to be referring to him as a historian; I will be referring to him as the author. 1.The author claims the name 'Ife' comes from the Edo word 'Uhe' and means 'va.gina'. Okay, cool story. Considering the fact that Ife or Ufe is a common place-name across the Yoruboid world - from Igala (which speaks a Yoruboid language), to Okun area, to central Yoruba area and even all the way in Benin Republic - but does not occur even once in the Edo area as a place name, it is very easy to identify the Edocentricism in the author's claim. Also the Yoruba do have a Yoruba etymology for the name 'Ife', and I can think of at least one more etymology which matches the topography of the place-name. So your author was definitely incorrect when he claimed Ife to be a non-Yoruba word. 2. Then he went further to make the claim that Ifa rituals and ceremonies must involve Bini traditional faith custodians to be considered authentic. A historian would attach at least one good reference to this claim. There is a vast literature on Ifa. I mean, literally hundreds of books and academic papers have been written on Ifa. He could not bring one of this sources to support this claim? Now, even assuming that no scholar has explored that particular aspect of Ifa rituals, did he witness it himself? Or did he hear about it from a reliable person? A historian who understands the historical method would include that source and relevant details about them in a footnote. There's no such thing here. The author just throws in an unreferenced claim and quickly moved on. That's not scholarly. Again, the authors Edocentric bias is clear to see. Anyway, on this Oduduwa-Ekaladerhan issue, if Edo historians (trained historians, not accidental ones, like Osahon) are objective and honest with themselves and are willing to apply strict historical methods to the story of Ekaladerhan, they will easily see how the original traditions about Ekaladerhan was deliberately distorted especially since 1970 and they will understand why it has happened. 1. I challenge you or anybody else to find a single account that predates the 1960s and 1970s where it was said that Ekaladerhan went to Ile-Ife or even had anything to do with Ile-Ife. The original story of Ekaladerhan was that he was the son of the last Ogiso Owodo; due to some unfortunate events, he had to flee from Benin; he went south and established himself at Ughoton. Years later, back home in Benin, it was found that Ekaladerhan's exile had been an unfortunate mistake or a malicious plot and an embassy was sent to bring him back. Ekaladerhan refused to return and even fought an army that was sent from Benin to forcibly bring him back. Ekaladerhan lived the rest of his life in Ughoton and died there. This is the account you will find in all pre-1970 records of Benin history. From Ling Roth in 1903 to Egharevba in 1934 and all the subsequent editions of his work down to 1965. They all agree that Ekaladerhan went to Ughoton, lived the rest of his days there, never returned to Benin and certainly never went to Ife. Again, if you can find a single account from before 1965 that says Ekaladerhan went to Ife, I will immediately apologise for typing rubbish. 2. It was not until around 1970 that the claim of Ekaladerhan going to Ile-Ife surfaced for the first time in the writing of Osaren S. B. Omoregie. Omoregie's story is even different from the one told in Benin today, but it was the first recorded step in that direction. According to Omoregie, Ekaladerhan fled from Benin to Ughoton, then he fled again from Ughoton and wandered around until he came to Ile-Ife. In Ile-Ife, he was adopted into the royal family and adopted the name Omonoyan, which was corrupted to Oranmiyan. Ekaladerhan-now-Omonoyan returned from Ile-Ife to Benin to found the Oba dynasty. Cool story. But apparently, some people in Benin didn't think it was cool enough. Why make Ekaladerhan an adopted prince and a protege of a Yoruba kingdom when he could be a bonafide founding king of a Yoruba state and a pivotal figure not only in Edo history but in the history of all Yoruba as well? Greater Benin and all. So they decided to again change it a little bit. 3. Between 1971 and 1973, three Benin writers (Prince Edun Akenzua, D.U. Edebiri and Air Iyare) re-recrafted the story of Ekaladerhan. In the new account that emerged from their workshop, Ekaladerhan was not adopted into the Ife royal family. There was no royal family in Ife to adopt him. Ife had no king, so the natives accepted to make this prince their king. According to Iyare in 1973, on the day he was installed as the first Oba of Ife, he proclaimed in Edo language, "Ikpomwosa! Idoduwa!" which means "I thank God! I have chosen the path to greatness!" Idoduwa was then corrupted by the Yoruba to Oduduwa. One can trace the pattern of changing of the Ekaladerhan story thus:- Up to 1965: Ekaladerhan was a Benin prince who was exiled to Ughoton and died there. In 1970: Ekaladerhan did not die in Ughoton. He went to Ile-Ife and became Oranmyian Between 1971 and 1973: He went to Ile-Ife, but instead of becoming Oranmiyan, he became Oranmiyan's father Oduduwa. Who knows what he will become 75 years from today. I will like to add here that students of African history will do well to study a phenomenon known as the lost-heir theme or the exiled-heir theme. This phenomenon was discussed albeit not exhaustively by David Henige in his paper "Oral Tradition and Chronology". In brief, the legend of the lost or exiled heir is used especially by pre-literate cultures to hide the fact that they have experienced a change in dynasty or that they have accepted a new line of foreign rulers. So instead of admitting that one dynasty has ended and a new foreign dynasty has come to power, many pre-literate societies will come up with the claim that the founder of the new dynasty is actually a prince from the old dynasty who got lost or was exiled, but has now returned to re-establish the rule of his fathers and thus ensure dynastic continuity. This phenomenon accounts for why preliterate African kingdoms appear to have far fewer successive dynasties than their counterparts in Europe and Asia. Historians have identified instances where this exiled-heir device was used in other African kingdoms like Buganda and Rwanda. Robin Law also suspects that the Bariba exile of the Alaafin of Oyo in the 16th century has been used to cleverly mask the fact that Oyo may have experienced a dynastic change at this period which probably brought in a line of Bariba Alaafin. This is exactly what Omoregie, Edebiri and Iyare did with the Eweka dynasty between 1970 and 1973. (By the way, I don't think this is the only time this device has been used in Benin tradition. It may have been used at least two other times - but let me not get into that.) It is more than likely that the line of rulers that replaced the Ogiso in Benin was of Yoruba origin. 3 Likes |
Culture / Re: The Oduduwa Controversy by RedboneSmith(m): 2:16pm On Nov 30, 2023 |
charsoso: I don't know how you can share a biased piece and still ask people to read it without being biased. |
Culture / Re: Oba Of Benin Must Be Banned From South West by RedboneSmith(m): 12:01pm On Nov 28, 2023 |
Y'all are just way too touchy for your own goods. 🙄 |
Culture / Re: Why Can't I Find Hausa History Books? by RedboneSmith(m): 11:24am On Nov 16, 2023 |
The intellectual output of Nigerian scholars working in Nigerian universities is generally very poor, to put in mildly. The few scholars who are actually making significant contributions are almost all based in American universities. There was a brief flowering of great research in the 60s and 70s with such schemes as the Ibadan history series at the University of Ibadan, but all that has fizzled away. Tomorrow someone will come and say that we should stop relying on foreigners to tell our history. When our own scholars are doing a piss-poor job of synthesising our story, who are supposed to read? |
Culture / Re: The Gender Inequality Prevalent In The Southeast Of Nigeria: A Call For Fairness by RedboneSmith(m): 9:07am On Nov 12, 2023 |
And this is just cherrypicking at its finest, to just pick statistics on house ownership. [I am talking now about the other picture from StatiSense attached to the original post.] Someone really interested in a balanced holistic assessment will bring other statistics into the discussion. Show us statistics on girl child education, show us statistics on girl/early child marriage, show us statistics on female genital mutilation. All these are indices of how fairly a society treats its women. |
Culture / Re: The Gender Inequality Prevalent In The Southeast Of Nigeria: A Call For Fairness by RedboneSmith(m): 9:01am On Nov 12, 2023 |
MrTed: Hold on a second. A northerner wants to lecture Southeasterners about gender equality. Wait wait wait… A NORTHERNER? 😂😂😂😂 There’s nothing Ndubuisi will not see in Upper Iweka. 🤣🤣🤣🤣 |
Culture / Re: Why Are There Nigerians With Chinese Names And Language Systems? by RedboneSmith(m): 10:52am On Nov 11, 2023 |
Stop playing. Nigerians don’t have Chinese names and language systems. |
Culture / Re: List Of Tribes In Rivers State Nigeria by RedboneSmith(m): 4:15pm On Nov 01, 2023 |
mariovito: Edoid, Igboid, Yoruboid were coined by scholars to be used in a linguistic sense, ie., to mean that the language a people speak is akin to Edo, Igbo and Yoruba, respectively. Na for Nairaland you go dey hear say Ikwerre is Edoid, Ekpeye is Edoid, Itsekiri is Edoid. And when you ask how come, you find out that they are referring only to claims of origin. Very strange something. 2 Likes |
Culture / Re: Eze Eri & His Chiefs Wearing Jewish Apparel (Photos) by RedboneSmith(m): 2:28am On Oct 25, 2023 |
gidgiddy: This is not the Eze Nri. 1 Like |
Culture / Re: The Topic Of Debate Is: Who Takes Better Care Of Their Wife The Igbo Or Yoruba? by RedboneSmith(m): 3:48pm On Oct 06, 2023 |
illicit: Harmless question: Why is it that some of you feel threatened or discriminated against or unwelcome when people speak their own language around you, even when they are not talking directly to you? This is something I've observed repeatedly in my personal life. Meanwhile, I've been in many spaces where Yoruba people speak Yoruba among themselves knowing that I don't understand the language. In fact, it seems to be a norm in all the Yoruba spaces that I have ever found myself. It happened even in the last place that I worked. There were five Yoruba and three non-Yorubas and all we heard in the office all day was Yoruba. It never bothered me. No be me una dey talk to. When you want to talk to me you speak the one I go understand. Until then, feel free to carry on in your language; I am not offended. Why is it that you people are not able to take what you dish? A woman speaks her own language to people who understand it, in her own house, when no be you she dey talk to, and you feel unwelcome? 1 Like |
Travel / Re: Why Do Most Wealthy Nigerians Prefer To Live In Nigeria Than To Relocate Abroad? by RedboneSmith(m): 10:29am On Oct 06, 2023 |
essentialone: Is it not money we're going abroad to look for? If you already have a boatload of it, what exactly is the motivation for relocating abroad permanently? Na to kuku stay Naija and be travelling for vacation and medical reasons. Plus, believe me, there are benefits to having money and living in a third world nation. 1 Like |
Culture / Re: Timothy Ogundele (Macof) Is After My Life by RedboneSmith(m): 6:30pm On Sep 19, 2023 |
macof: Omo ehn 😂😂😂 It's not something to laugh about. Mental health issues are not funny, but sometimes the laughter can't be helped. I continue to pray that he gets the help he needs. |
TV/Movies / Re: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by RedboneSmith(m): 7:53pm On Sep 10, 2023 |
A simple "no I didn't write the letter" would have sufficed. All the digs and snide remarks were completely unnecessary. 8 Likes |
Culture / Re: Are Igbo People Really Tribalistic? by RedboneSmith(m): 10:14am On Sep 10, 2023 |
[quote author=Christistruth03 post=125695959][/quote] Lagos will always be something of an anomaly. Given its history as a former federal territory, which led to it being very ethnically heterogenous and far more cosmopolitan than anywhere else in Nigeria, it will be dishonest to use it as an example of the character of Yoruba states in general. That is why I initially said "aside from Lagos". As for Kaduna, I know of two Ìgbò aides appointed by the current Kaduna State governor. I don't know of any commissioners. Your screenshotted tweet did not specify this Igbo commissioner's name. If you want to talk about aides, go and look up Orji Uzo Kalu's tenure as governor in Abia State when he appointed aides from all across Nigeria. Also you might also want to look up Hajia Rabi Shinkafi from Zamfara who resigned from her position as Commissioner in Zamfara to take up a commisonerial offer from the governor of Imo State, Hope Uzodinma. Besides Lagos (which is an anomaly) every other state in Nigeria is still conservative about appointing non-indigenes. Once in awhile, we will hear of an exception and everyone applauds, but don't act like Ìgbò states are particularly unusual about not appointing non-indigenes, because that is statistically incorrect. Also, I do not know why you added a screenshot about Fulani people to your response to me, as it has nothing to do with the question I asked you, which is about state appointment of non-indigenes. Anti-Fulani incidents are pervasive throughout the Middle Belt, the Southwest, the South-South and the South-east where they have been seen as (rightly or wrongly) something of a menace for decades now. I'll even say the Southeast has not been as proactive about this as other regions. You somehow trying to suggest that is it something specific to the South-East is disingenuous and no doubt motivated by your own anti-Igbo prejudice. Cheers. 🥂 2 Likes |
Culture / Re: Are Igbo People Really Tribalistic? by RedboneSmith(m): 5:51am On Sep 10, 2023 |
Christistruth03:Outside of Lagos, is there anywhere else in Nigeria that non-indigenes have been made commissioners (besides the commissioner of police)? Not trying to argue or anything. Just wish to know. 1 Like |
TV/Movies / Re: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by RedboneSmith(m): 10:31pm On Sep 08, 2023 |
Skrrrrrrr: Stop playing 😂 Face aside, her chest is like mine. And her voice sounds like she got more than her fair share of testosterone. She gets good grades in the hips and ass department, but that’s about it. Kim get fine face, get feminine voice, still get bobby and nyash. 2 Likes |
Culture / Re: Finally! The Igbo Languages And Proto-Igbo Reconstructions by RedboneSmith(m): 8:46pm On Sep 01, 2023 |
Hmm. |
TV/Movies / Re: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by RedboneSmith(m): 7:31pm On Aug 29, 2023 |
Psychedelia: Thank you. This issue has been discussed here several times. But NLanders keep abusing the poor boy everytime there's a situation that brings out his disability. |
TV/Movies / Re: Big Brother Naija “All Stars“ 2023: Live Updates Thread by RedboneSmith(m): 7:27pm On Aug 29, 2023 |
Why did they pick Cross for this? 😩 |
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