₦airaland Forum

VladimirPutiin:
I thought Audu Ogbe died after the APC primary election ??

Or was it after the gubernatorial election?

Who is Audu Ogbe ffs?

It was Prince, Abubakar Audu abeg

Ttalk:
Stop preaching what is not applicable in real life. There is nothing like seen yourself as the next man to you.

Even your point corroborated it as we are majorly influenced by our environment. There is Igbo identity, Yoruba, Igala Hausa Fulani identity, but what is Nigeria identity?

What are the cultural and traditional values that makes us one?

Don't mention religion or Nigeria state because all that are products of foreigners, Nigeria people can never be one as there is no orientation that would erase the natural inborn trait that makes us different.

Why do we continue to lie to ourselves when the problem is staring us in the face?

Why don't we agree that our foundation is faulty and we are not one and if we want to agree to live together should be our collective decision?

Why do we term the creation of white as an act of God? What is difficult in peaceful agreement or peaceful dissolution?

Why should we continue to allow our people to be killed because of one Nigeria? Who is really benefitting from one Nigeria?

Now who told you that conform with my belief? What if I placed religion above humanity based on my belief and culture, what if I placed success above humanity? Is there a general consensus for your assertion? This is where the problem lies, we understand things differently based on whom we are as different people. Unless we come to term with our differences and agree based on our own terms, then we would not have any headway as a country.

Nigeria is a country of different nation, to agree to be a country, the nation's must agree on their terms, that should be the foundation where every other things are build, the foundation of a family is marriage, which is agreement between husband and wife to come together

Have you heard of unity in diversity??
It seems you only wish to argue but ended up contradicting yourself. If you think that unity in diversity can't be achieved through proper orientation of the importance of humanity then why do you call for a regional restructuring that will still include different tribes? Why not call for a restructuring that would see a single ethnic group live independently? Why are you supporting a kind of restructuring that will see the igbo, ijaw, kalabari, ibibio, ikwere etc still jumbled up as one?
Since unity can't be achieved even with the slightest diversity, why not call for a restructuring that will see the whole social until fragmented into the smallest possible entity? Perhaps to nuclear families or even individuals so that we can all live independently of one another.
For you to dare to ask, what if you placed religion above humanity or what if you placed success above humanity simply shows the depth of how shallow any human being could think.
Finally, you asked what the cultural or traditional values that makes us one are...
It might interest you to know that we were not born with the cultural and traditional values you speak of but we all learnt it from our environment and that is the more reason it is possible to find a common unifying factor that can make us coexist through teaching, learning, reorientation and proper enforcement of laws and orderliness.

OluwaJohn77:
That year na Mr. Orji show me pepper, last last we graduate. Nothing last forever

That one wey dey carry Bluetooth for ear the take oppress us that year.

Ttalk:
Just look at the way you tactically dodge the main topic. Which one is restructure of the mind? The utopia nation you see in your dream is not in existence in any part of the world.

Human are created to be selfish, stubborn and lazy, it is the society through law and order that shape and control citizen behaviour.

Nigeria need outright restructure where equity and fairness would be the standard rule.

How come you ended up recommending equity and fairness when you claimed I completely deviated from the subject matter??

I already talked about an egalitarian society but here you are telling me that humans are created stubborn and blablabla...

FYI, humans are not created stubborn. Human behaviour is to a large extent influenced by environment and the kind of orientation they get from the ab-initio.
I also agree with you that there is no perfect society anywhere in the world, but you too would agree that some climes are definitely saner than others and I believe that is what every sound mind should look forward to.
Back to your question in bold
Mind restructuring in this context simply means to place our minds in a state of awareness that humanity should be placed above everything else in the existential hierarchy of mankind. The awareness that not just our own interest, but other people's interests matters as well.
Things would be different if we could first of all see humanity before we see our ethnic or religious differences. This can only be achieved by going back to the drawing board to teach the younger generation the importance of humanity and a judicious enforcement of law and orderliness amongst the older generation without fear or favour.
Considering the current nigerian situation, regional restructuring can't be as effective as many people think with the kind of orientation we currently have because even if the social unit is as small as a nuclear family, it will still be in total chaos if our minds are not structured to see humanity first before anything else. This is because the problem of majority and minority will continue to persist except you are only craving for restructuring where your tribe will be the majority.
The man from Anambra considers himself to be more igbo than the man from Enugu.
The man from Oyo considers himself to be more Yoruba than the man from Osun.
Engage the Igala man from Kogi and tell him you heard Kogi people eat dog and he will simply tell you it's not a common practice among them but the Yoruba people in Kogi west.
Tell the Bende LG man that you were told Abia people eat humans and watch him point fingers at the people of Isialangwa and vice versa.

iswallker:
The guy is right - no occupation - police say your sister died a shameful death

Wetin to investigate again



On a serious note - this young generation - na waahh for dem

Beware of Karma, it knows everyone's address even if you are homeless.

You couldn't even hide your sentiments.
I'm glad this is your opinion but I'm gladder because your opinion doesn't count

I refuse to believe this one

Ruggedity tested and brutality confirmed!
See how e take end
A bad way to die

seems you attended ksu.

Realhabee:
[It quote author=respect80 post=111496626]Back then, Mr Ahmed who was a math101 lecturer once told us that we were just wasting our time that we can't answer his questions during a test.

Dr Sale, a chem 101 lecturer also told me how it took him 6 years to obtain his first degree that do I think I would just come and obtain my degree and go like that? This is simply because I insisted there must have been a mistake that there was no way I could have gotten a C in chem101 after scoring 27/30 in the test which was later confirmed to be a mistake, or perhaps deliberately just to include me among those who have to grease his palms to pass

I know say una full here

Nawa o
Karma carry flight for this one matter

OluwaJohn77:
Kogi State University 2012 Mathematical Science 100l set

Maximum respect ✌️

Obinnasmart:
U must not agree with me,and that's what make us different..but i am gonna say this final word to u,any thing evil is evil,best u keep away from it..there re a million cases like this and yet unresolved ,so if u wanna help yourself mr detective,keep away from the devils side ... anything can happen..cheers

Don't you think you're the one supporting evil here?? Someone was suspected to have been murdered and instead of condemning the fact that she was murdered, you chose to assume she was a runs girl.

So my suggestion that we shouldn't just conclude she was a runs girl since it hasn't been confirmed is now my offence abi??

Just pray people don't assume or conclude something terrible about you or your loved ones in this kind of controversial case.
I no dey quarrel you oga, I'm just being rational.
Runs girl or no runs girl, if she was truly murdered as suspected then murder is a condemnable act

Obinnasmart:
You dont sound exposed reason why i wont blame you when u say some of this things you say,there re guys who re into prostitution if u must know,they traffic this girls,they have clients..when they tell una make una de enter street small small they know wetin de happen,u will be forming holy..there re guys into blackmailing ,they use this girls too to black mail there victims..just like a brother up there said ,what other business is hotel for here in Nigeria..if u have a sister,advice her to stop waka waka.. same way we advice guys to be careful who u hangout with ,cover ur drink when u re out in the public ..we de give this advice on a daily because things they happen and we de see this things happen ..most of u hear of this things only from the internet,most of us see this happenings around

I'm not exposed because you think I don't know everything you wrote up here abi??
Dear Mr Street, continue jonzing because I share contrary opinion with you.
And stop trying to change the subject matter which is simply that we should not make conclusions based on assumptions. If you wish to advise people about the dangers of runs girl business then create a thread about that and stop being insensitive under a thread where someone is calling for justice for the death of his sister.

Shebbs:
The Post Said They Saw Her Went In With A Man, She Could Be Right With Her Judgment But Maybe She Was Too Direct. The Management Of This Hotel Need To Be Brought In For Questions.

Sorry, but I can't find anywhere it was indicated she went in with a man in the report we are deliberating upon here on nairaland, except you know that from another source.

Obinnasmart:
When you advice them,they will get mad at u ,and tell u its there life..my own life,i dont like to discuss hotel matters , investigation without elementary basis, no identity,at 21 is either u re recognized with an educational institution or a business,i don't want to keep this talk on..i don't even understand u ..all am saying is,be at the right place at the right time..it will save a lot of stress ..a boy that loves to sit around bunk but aint a smoker,the day police will come for arrest,no investigation will help him,a boy that makes a cultist his friend,the day a rival group will come ,he is surely going down with his friend..advice na advice ..who get ear make em hear..by the way ,i know how many of this girls i have offered a decent job ,but they wont want it,give them money to open a business,they wont manage the business,abeg ,u people will be throwing emotions,how some of u try to cover evil, i wonder sometimes if u re in the business too
.am not a saint myself ,i patronize rungirls too but since i found out the dangers in it, I stopped..thats self respect

I couldn't help but laugh at the bolded
So now I be runs guy abi?
It's all in your head sir... Enjoy your day

Obinnasmart:
I am not tagging her a runs girls,but lets just say,be at the right place at the right time .. simple
.may her gentle soul rest in peace

You're now sounding so annoying.
I mentioned the guy I mentioned because he concluded she was a runs girl and you picked up the matter from there by quoting.

What do you mean by saying she should be at the right place at the right time??
Investigation is still ongoing and we don't know if she was in the hotel for the wrong reason and I don't know what such wrong reason could possibly be.
Hotels are not meant for animals and a 21 year old girl is not too young to lodge in a hotel. All these your assumptions are just in your head

Na Paul Pogba I dey see there, abi which person mouth long like lecture theatre so??

Obinnasmart:
Yes a runs girl has the right to life and also family has the right to demand for justice.. people should just be careful of how we live life...i have never heard that a girl in her room was killed and such happens,it is much easier to find the killer, where they for wan start for this one..it is sad ..i dont wish death for anyone or pain but people need be calming down..this same night ,u will still see someone after reading such news hooking up with a man he doesn't know and going to a room with him..God help all of us

I'm not supporting the habit of hooking up with total strangers in the name of runs. I'm against drawing conclusions when investigation is yet to be concluded. It is very insensitive to tag her a runs girl at this point.

Burgerlomo:
Monitoring spirit everywhere

You don see am na

Obinnasmart:
Am sorry but dont compare her with that of chinelo, everyone knows ..u see,thats the reason when they tell people to be mindful life they live, they turn to insult you,what is a 21 years old doing in a hotel room ,she had a visitor so am assuming killed her,she has no luggage,hotels have bars and open spots if need come that u wanna discuss business,am a business man and the day my client invited me to his hotel and ask me to come inside his room help him pick some of his bags ,if u see the kind of fear that gripped a street man like me and i was just there wondering,so this is the same room this girls enter without even prior knowledge of there company..nawao..abuja de hot

Until investigation is concluded and the facts surrounding the incident are known, everything we say are just assumptions and we shouldn't reach conclusion with our assumptions.

Btw, a runs girl has the right to life and her family has the right to demand for justice if that right is infringed upon.

membranus:
Somebody named himself #kingofthedamned (a cursed moniker) and you are arguing online with him?

I should have known, but sometimes it's just difficult to ignore such nonsense.

Prolificgiant:
English language is our official language,for someone to have gone through education to level of been being a graduate then he or she should be able to express themselves eloquently lets say 70% .,if u are good in cleaning and reside around yaba ,bariga lagos axis chat me up ,lets talk

Now let's hope this was simply a typo error.

1VOIZ:
No be lie, na that same Dr sale wan sleep with my friend in his office back then.

Comrade abeg no loud this one o
I no get strength for vawulence atm

KingOfTheDamned:
Is any point I raised invalid ? Or you just want to talk ?

What sort of deductive reasoning did you used to conclude the lady in question was a runs girl??
Is she a runs girl simply because she used a hotel or have you investigated the case to conclude she's a runs girl??
While a lot of people were talking about Abolore's comment about Chinelo yesterday, I knew there were so many Abolores and I'm sure you are one

KingOfTheDamned:
Prostitution has put some lazy Nigerian women on the endangered list.

I won't waste my breath when they die this way... They should know, it's called occupational hazard.

Stupid goats . Your sister was a runs girl and died the way runs girls die. Instea dog the lazy things to find.a legit hustle they want to run with the big boys...

Next pls

So you don investigate the case come judge the matter for nairaland here?
Be calming down. People lodge in hotels for various reasons

How tragic

phenzy:
Wow!
Mr Ahmed, my math 101 lecturer that year
Lmao... we no dey hide o my brother

Guy was fuccking good but was feeling like he was competing with students then
Starch really suffer for him and his native wears that year

phenzy:
You schooled in KSU?

Yes, I did.
So many of you are actually hiding on a low key in this forum. Na matter the bring matter sha.
Much respect bro ✌️

mrvitalis:
Lmfao ..so you believe humans just stay and behave good and nice ?

Are Nigerians worse that Europeans ? Americans ? You really don't understand what you are talking about

So in your phantom idea

Nigerians would just wake up and decide to be good

Please name a nation in history or present that it has ever happed

I agree with you. Humans don't just become good and nice all of a sudden but they don't become bad and evil all of a sudden either.
Everything starts from somewhere and it's all about the orientation we are privy to.
For instance, Haiti is a very poor country where a large population of humans live below average but do you know that if you travel to Haiti today and you eventually meet a random Haitian and give him/her a $100 note to help you look for change or buy you some goods and return the balance, there is a 98% chance that Haitian would return with the change or balance even though you just met for the first time? He/she can only return and ask for something in return for running that errand for you but the idea of going away with your money since you are a stranger and probably won't be able to trace them won't be in their minds. Try this with a random 9 year old in 9ja and your $100 dollar note is gone forever. This is because of the orientation we have here.
Till today, Haitian women still take off their clothes in the market to test the size of a bra and their fellow Haitian men and women won't even give any attention to such. This is all because of their orientation making their society less perverted unlike ours.
It may take time to change the orientation but it is achievable through our academic curriculum and how seriously we take or enforce our laws.

BisiBernard:
confirmed KSU student

I sight you there ✌️

Hyper77:
Kogi State University!!!

I see you man!

You dey ma.d make you fit answer Ahmed question?

Wtf
You got it right mhen...
It wasn't easy then