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I saw it, but I just ignored cos I know competence doesn't matter to this government before giving people jobs.

Ola17:
Advice taken in good faith. You are a gentleman.

Tnx...
Always welcome

Ola17:
E funny one kind

I would've passed for an agnostic but I don’t like labels. I’m genuinely looking for proof or manifestation of the supernatural but all my searches so have haven’t yielded any result as most of the practitioners give one excuse or the other for the failure of their god or charms to work.

So you see, this is why I’d like it if you can be able to demonstrate your claims.

Hmmm
I thought as much.
Unfortunately, that's the kind of world we live in and that is why I find it difficult to judge people for what they believe or chose not to believe because as uniquely as science claims every human being is, that's exactly how unique I think the things which made people to believe or disbelieve something is.
No one knows exactly what is going on in another individuals head or body.
But within me, I believe there's still more to the physically and generally accepted reality we all accept. That is, I believe there's still a reality beyond the reality we all accept, not sure though, but this is my dispassionate creed.
Again, I possess no witchcraft powers to demonstrate to you here on NL, but that doesn't mean I haven't come across circumstances that made me believe their existence.
Finally, I would advise you to hope not to encounter or be at the mercy of one while carrying out your research for a demonstration of their powers.

chatinent:
You can't rule NIgeria.

Why na?
And I have an ambition at heart o
Tell me why pls...

Ola17:

E funny abi?

chatinent:
Convert it to dollars.

Lol
Ok
One NL kpekus =0.000005$.
Keep posting sensible comments on NL until your prize get to 10$ which is the minimum withdrawal limit.
Have a blessed day ahead...

Ola17:
I’m not an atheist and also do not believe in religious concept of god.
I see religion simply as a cope mechanism as most of its supernatural claims can’t not be demonstrated.

Can you demonstrate your beliefs and win some money?

If you are not an atheist and you don't believe in the concept of god from a religious standpoint then what are you and which side of the veil do you belong?

I have no way to demonstrate the existence of witchcraft powers to you here on NL also because I'm not a witch but I have witnessed on two live occasions where people who practice the act confessed to their crimes in public.
Finally, use that money of yours to buy enough data that can last you for sometimes rather than promising me to win money by proving my points cos I didn't use won money to buy the phone and data I'm using to type this.
Tnx

Ola17:
If you are so sure that witchcraft, “demonism”, dark magic and whatnots exist, why not prove it and claim millions of dollars ?

I can't keep repeating myself here and there on a single thread. I urge you to go through the thread especially from page 4 and you will find my responses therein.
Except you are an atheist in which case the argument would take a different dimension, if you believe in the existence of some sort of God or gods as the case may be, but disbelieve the existence of witchcraft powers, demonism etc then there is no point arguing with you.

Rickmann:
I'm not disputing the fact that witchcraft exists, of course it does exist..my question is, in this case,what if the problem is actually from him? What if the problem is just physical ( management issues)... Not every problem in life is spiritual.

You may be right about the fact that the op didn't check well before making his claims, but that doesn't change the fact that he might also be right about his experience. Though I still remain with the opinion that no human being is a witch, humans can only serve as vessel from which witchcraft powers can be made to manifest physically. Some witch desire a human or animal form to manifest their powers and achieve their goals.

The first 100 comments I read seems to share the opinion that the op must be stupid to even think of witchcraft and I felt hypocrisy couldn't be more glaring because I don't think those 100 comments were made by atheist or perhaps, scientists who don't believe in the existence of witches and demons.
Most of them making such comments and calling the op all sorts of names are probably religious people who go to churches and mosques praying, binding and casting the so called witches and wizards they claim does not exist. So you see?
Hypocrisy is real. Create another thread now and ask them to share their experiences on how demons and witches attacked them and you will still find a lot of the monikers ridiculing op and calling him names narrating their stories on what witches and wizards did to them.
I hope you understand my point now...

Kobojunkie:
1. Doctors and professionals are humans hence they also have their personal opinions on issues. We look to them however, not for their personal ideas and opinions but instead for professional advice which we consider valid and verifiable - this way sanity is verified.

2. You are free to believe that I am human behind this moniker, but how do you prove that belief is more than just an opinion you have chosen to accept as your truth?

3. I believe in God and I believe that God is Spirit and He is ruler over all Spirits. God is True and His Word is Truth and Law over all spirits in His Kingdom. So, I am thinking you and I don't even begin to worship the same God at all.

1- I wonder how we often adhere to one particular sense of view when it suit our narrative and still deny or even ridicule that same sense of view when it does not suit our narrative.
Science is the ultimate source of knowledge as far as the world is concerned today, yes, but does science have an answer for every world problem today? No
You saying that you believe only in verifiable facts does not even conform with early scientific approach because science was not rigid from its beginning. Most of the knowledge we have as science today were once someone's opinion and personal idea.
Man may not have survived and advanced from his early ages if he strictly relied on every idea to be scientifically validated and accepted before being put into use. In other words, some scientific knowledge were actually birthed from non scientific knowledge at some point in time.

2- Yes, I chose to believe that you are a human behind this moniker and the fact is that if my opinion happens to be the fact, whether it is proven or not, it does not change the fact that it is the fact and not merely my opinion. However, my opinion in that case remains a fact that wasn't proven, but that doesn't change it from what it is-the fact!

3- The only problem I have with number 3 is the fact that you seem to talk from a logical point of view and you simply relied on scientific sense of judgment while making your points in number 1 and 2, but here you're stating clearly that you believe in God and that God is spirit and a ruler over all spirit in his kingdom and that his words are true and this sounds more like a contradiction of your sense of judgment in your point 1 and 2. The question is, how do we get out of this argument if I now ask you to prove the God you believe in, his kingdom and his spirituality in a verifiable manner?
The fact is, let's stop accepting only things the white sell to us as knowledge while discrediting our own selves and the source of knowledge we have simply before the whites came because there is more to life than meet the eyes. Life should be flexible because everything can not completely revolve around science, no.
The whites came and made us believed that magic is an illusion, science is the only source of knowledge, changed our traditions and religion, took away the brilliant brains they identified would be useful to them, but here we are still clinging and relying solely only what the whites claim to have been proven scientifically.

chatinent:
I think both are grammatically correct.

I have my school fees to be paid on my mind, and December is in my mind.


Read the meaning.

You're absolutely correct and you just won yourself a brand new nairaland kpekus.
Kindly mention any of the mods to claim your prize

Kobojunkie:
1. The psychosis I spoke of happened long before the diagnosis came. All the individuals I spoke up where not known by anyone to experience such but after listening to them babbling on on several occasions, I realized what it was and suggested that a professional be involved so the could get treatment in time.

Anyone can, when stressed, experience a psychotic break and it is not something you first need to be diagnosed with.

2. I never hoped a human would be the source of information such as this. I actually expected you to provide peer reviewed documents at least so we can go from there. Information from a human is nothing more than mere opinions until verified or at least validated by other sane beings.

3. I believe in God, yes. But I would not consider my self a religious person since I deal in facts(Truth), and not hearsay.

The psychosis I spoke of happened long before the diagnosis came. All the individuals I spoke up where not known by anyone to experience such but after listening to them babbling on on several occasions, I realized what it was and suggested that a professional be involved so the could get treatment in time.

I believe you to be a knowledgeable person by the way you think, but you shouldn't allow your assumptions to becloud your sense of judgment. Read the bolded line from your own words and you will understand that you went straight to assume that they were not in their right state of mind to be saying(blabbing) the way you saw them did. Note that you made this conclusion on your own even when a professional hasn't confirmed such.
If we judge by this standard, then everyone including doctors and people who work in every professional field would have to carry a certificate of sanity with them before their advice or opinion can be taken seriously.

I never hoped a human would be the source of information such as this. I actually expected you to provide peer reviewed documents at least so we can go from there. Information from a human is nothing more than mere opinions until verified or at least validated by other sane beings

Information don't automatically test themselves and transfer themselves into books or documents. Human ought to first get an information before talking of its verification so I don't think it would be right to rule out human being a source of information.
I can assure you that the information I gave you was peer reviewed just that it's not documented in papers or the web, but I don't think you would consider it false simply for the fact that you ain't among the peer who witnessed the incident.
Oh no, I think the last sentence in bold completely betrays common logic as I don't need any validation to believe that a human and not a robot is behind your Monika and trying to make a point on the topic at hand.

I believe in God, yes. But I would not consider my self a religious person since I deal in facts(Truth), and not hearsay

I'm glad you admitted that you believe in God. I do not wish to question your belief in a God or even gods, but it surely points to the fact that you believe in spirituality. So, claiming to believe only in truths and facts doesn't conform with spirituality therefore I would urge you to believe spirituality also and not just truths and facts alone since God is a spirit.

Somethings are better left unsaid because there is more reality to the reality we humans call reality-my opinion.

jesmond3945:
those guys that confessed are mentally sick due to poverty affliction.

You may be right, but if we judge by this standard, would it not mean that everyone must own a certificate of sanity before ones sanity would be justified when one talks?
In other words, I'm not sure if you are sane by assuming that people who confessed to be diabolic are mentally deranged or poverty stricken and you are not even sure if me who is mentioning you now is mentally stable, so the question is who then should be taken seriously when he/she talks?
And that reminds me, one of the 2 people I saw confessed wasn't poverty stricken and non of them were diagnosed or known to be psychotic before and when they made the confession.

Kobojunkie:
You are the source of the information you spew?

I have also witnessed psychotic individuals confess to crimes they could never have committed because their were no victims- it was all in their minds - but what has that got to do with anything real?

I am not looking for opinions ,but facts .

It's good you actually called them psychotic individuals perhaps they were diagnosed and said to be psychotic, but unfortunately the people involved in the two cases I witnessed were not diagnosed or known to be psychotic.
Why are you asking if I'm the source of the information I spew? Is it not a human being you hoped would be the source of such information or do you think a tree own a nairaland account?
You failed to answer my question whereas you expect me to answer every of your question.
Are you a religious person?
Don't ignore my question this time please...

Hmm

Op why na?

Kobojunkie:
I am interested in going deep into these ideas you claim you have of witchcraft. What is the source of your information so I an read up on it myself.

Fortunately and unfortunately for you, I am the source of this information because I have witnessed on two occasions where people confessed to the crimes they committed in their witchcraft world, but if you are in doubt, you can continue your research by creating a thread seeking peoples opinions on whether witchcraft is real or not.
Na who see, na him know...

If you will permit me to ask a question then I would ask if you are a religious person or not.

Kobojunkie:
The Op said witchcraft, you say possession. So which one, and which God ?

Last I checked, witchcraft requires that the one involved be a wiling participant so how can a 1-year old be involved in that which it is barely conscious of?

The bolded is not true in every case of witchcraft and that is why most people misunderstand the concept of witchcraft.
In some cases the individual that is regarded as a witch is simply a vessel through which witchcraft powers can be manifested or operate from especially in a case of early (from the womb or immediately after birth) possession.
Let's not go too deep because I don't even have the strength but I have seen and heard terrible things from live confessions by those who participate in this evil called witchcraft.

Most Nigerians when they come online, they try to form civilization by disregarding spirituality, but behind the scenes, you see them running from one church to another praying for one uncle, aunty, grandma or grandpa to die so they can be successful in life and when I think of this I don't know how to better define hypocrisy.

I also don't like people to believe that someone even if the person is truly a witch is responsible for their woes because the mind also wields its power when spirituality is involved.
80 percent of people don't actually go to church solely for the worship of the God they believe instead they go to pray for breakthrough and to be assured that their misfortune is not ordinary.
Peace

Rickmann:
Nigerians and their stupid superstitious way of reasoning..always blaming someone else for their misfortune. Rubbish!I

You had better seek the face of God and also check urself to know where your problem is from.

If you truly believe in God then why is the issue of a child being a witch a mystery to you?
I'm not in support of the way the op plans to treat the child because he is not supposed to look at the child as the witch, rather it is the spirit that possesses the innocent child that he ought to battle with if he believes in spirituality.

So what we should understand here is to stop misinterpreting the child as a witch instead of the spirit of witchcraft that may have possessed the innocent child. Tnx.
Lest I forget, witchcraft is real, unlike the way most people born in this digital age think.
Witchcraft, dark magic, demonism etc are as old as man on earth.

Bighead9:
Big lie.
She is not IGBO, She is IGALA.

Yes, I know her too. She's an IGALA girl and her name is Ufẹdọ.

bigcee:
I hope I tried

U try , but you come resemble young tortoise.

belshazzar:
Omo see as memories full ground. I've got loads of child hood memories too, now looking back at them made me realize how funny those years were, tbh its hard to pick the funniest but i will try to narrate at least my top 3
1. I remember back then during my primary school day, i use to attend one extra lesson then, and the lesson fee was #100 per month, i just didn't knw what came over me, i took a months lesson fee and deposited it at a play station center, i opened a master league there and i would always go there instead of the lesson. I didnt knw who snitched on me then, one day like that,i just saw my mum and my lesson teacher staring at me from the entrance, with g.pad in my hand, that day eh, i knew what it meant to be skinned alive
2. I once caught a baby squirell and i tried to raise it as my personal pet, it bit my fingers, i killed it in annoyance
3. I was once chased by an angry dog during raining season, i ran on a wetland, as in it was mad, my friends actually told me,but i didnt believe them

So you killed your lovely pet because it just decided to play with u?

Parizz:
are you using mtn. why am asking is because MTN have stopped giving their free 50mb on operamini

I'm not using mtn. I use glo.

Haba, everything now na video.
Person no fit use 100mb check info online again o

Doyou2019:
Davis Silva is a bit like that as well.

You're on point.
See confirmation below

Nawao

I comment my reserve until the season comes to an end.

2daful

Let he who has ears, let him hear.
If the so called peaceful ones refuse to speak up, then we should all know that the end of world peace has begun...

thebosstrevor1:
Stop ranting. Who are you to tell them how their system is suppose to work, nobody is complaining there.

Every society has their own traditions on how society is suppose to works. If it brings balance in society i support it. There is a reason why crime is low in most islamic countries, that is because islam preaches law and order.

Trying to change the system brings choas.

You need a brand new head bro.

6 million naira or just leave me alone

The beautiful thing about Karma is that it knows everyone's address even if you are homeless...